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July 28, 2020, 07:13:32 AM
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^^ Gentle reminder..

India is pretty much shit team as well when playing in the English condition, forgot last tour of India?  Tongue. India used to be no 1 team in test ranking when England whooped our ass.  Grin

Okay "Shit team" is bit exaggerated but they always play bad cricket there.
That actually is an inherent problem with India. Indian batsmen play on Indian pitches which are predominantly spinning tracks. When they go to England they see these bouncy tracks with almost negligible spin and a lot of breeze which moves the ball too much for pacers which is something Indian batsmen are predominantly not prepared for.
Moreover India didn't even have a great set of pace bowlers till last 5 years. There were only 1 or max 2 pace bowlers who were actually great. But since last 5-6 years India have one of the best pace attacks in the world. But yet they struggle to control the ball when they immediately get such favourable conditions. I think it's all about practice and familiarity. This is the reason Australia and New Zealand do soo good in England but fail when they come to India. Because they aren't familiar with the spinning tracks but I have seen most of foreign players have now settled with India conditions due to IPL.
I have virtually zero complaint from our recent fast bowling line up, they performed exceptionally well in the last couple of years. India failed in SENA (minus last Australia's tour) due to batting + bad selections.

IMO every team is bully in their own condition, for ex look at the current WI vs Eng series. How table turned in last couple of weeks and this is the same England team (more or less), Who faced the humiliating defeat in the Caribbean conditions.

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July 28, 2020, 08:06:07 AM
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IMO every team is bully in their own condition, for ex look at the current WI vs Eng series. How table turned in last couple of weeks and this is the same England team (more or less), Who faced the humiliating defeat in the Caribbean conditions.
Home teams always have an advantage as they prepare the wickets according to their strengths and West Indies have some fast bowlers who could trouble batsman and that was the difference.

This is the final day of the match and England need to pick 8 wicket to win the match and the series, the weather reports are not good for England and West Indies have an opportunity to bat as long as they can till the weather changes as it is expected to rain by evening and they can draw the match and the series.
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July 28, 2020, 09:33:05 AM
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I have virtually zero complaint from our recent fast bowling line up, they performed exceptionally well in the last couple of years. India failed in SENA (minus last Australia's tour) due to batting + bad selections.

IMO every team is bully in their own condition, for ex look at the current WI vs Eng series. How table turned in last couple of weeks and this is the same England team (more or less), Who faced the humiliating defeat in the Caribbean conditions.

The problem is that, while playing in green pitches, only Virat Kohli is able to perform. India becomes one-man army under such conditions. The bowlers (such as Ishant, Shami and Umesh) may take wickets at regular intervals, but the batsmen may not give them adequate support. All that is required is someone to dig in there and give support to Virat. But that rarely occurs.
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July 28, 2020, 10:18:22 AM
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Finally England is lucky to start the match and hopefully we will not see any interruption as i wage a bet for England to win and if there is no delay further i am hopeful that England to pick up all the wickets and win the match and the first hour is crucial and if England could pick a couple of wickets then the pressure will be back to West Indies and i hope England would grab the chances rather than spilling catches during crucial situation.
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July 28, 2020, 10:27:03 AM
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Finally England is lucky to start the match and hopefully we will not see any interruption as i wage a bet for England to win and if there is no delay further i am hopeful that England to pick up all the wickets and win the match and the first hour is crucial and if England could pick a couple of wickets then the pressure will be back to West Indies and i hope England would grab the chances rather than spilling catches during crucial situation.

The match has started, but as per the weather prediction, there is still a chance for "Light rain showers". But I compared the prediction made for today and it shows some improvement. Looks like the chance of rain has gone down. Hopefully England would get 70-80 overs, which are needed to bowl out the remaining 8 West Indian batsmen. But looks like West Indies has got a good start here.
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July 28, 2020, 10:42:31 AM
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Finally England is lucky to start the match and hopefully we will not see any interruption as i wage a bet for England to win and if there is no delay further i am hopeful that England to pick up all the wickets and win the match and the first hour is crucial and if England could pick a couple of wickets then the pressure will be back to West Indies and i hope England would grab the chances rather than spilling catches during crucial situation.

The match has started, but as per the weather prediction, there is still a chance for "Light rain showers". But I compared the prediction made for today and it shows some improvement. Looks like the chance of rain has gone down. Hopefully England would get 70-80 overs, which are needed to bowl out the remaining 8 West Indian batsmen. But looks like West Indies has got a good start here.

And we now have a rain delay!

I hope it does not continues for long. It would be bad for the match. I am sure team England will feel the same. Just 8 wickets more they need to wrap up the series.

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July 28, 2020, 11:18:51 AM
Last edit: July 28, 2020, 11:46:42 AM by Indymoney
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Finally England is lucky to start the match and hopefully we will not see any interruption as i wage a bet for England to win and if there is no delay further i am hopeful that England to pick up all the wickets and win the match and the first hour is crucial and if England could pick a couple of wickets then the pressure will be back to West Indies and i hope England would grab the chances rather than spilling catches during crucial situation.

The match has started, but as per the weather prediction, there is still a chance for "Light rain showers". But I compared the prediction made for today and it shows some improvement. Looks like the chance of rain has gone down. Hopefully England would get 70-80 overs, which are needed to bowl out the remaining 8 West Indian batsmen. But looks like West Indies has got a good start here.

And we now have a rain delay!

I hope it does not continues for long. It would be bad for the match. I am sure team England will feel the same. Just 8 wickets more they need to wrap up the series.
West Indies start is not good they lost 2 very early wickets we have some good time so most chances this match is going to be end in favour of England 71/4 Broad is seventh bowler with 500 wickets in test matches.

Edit:  Early lunch and West Indies is 84/5.
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July 28, 2020, 12:25:49 PM
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^^ Gentle reminder..

India is pretty much shit team as well when playing in the English condition, forgot last tour of India?  Tongue. India used to be no 1 team in test ranking when England whooped our ass.  Grin

Okay "Shit team" is bit exaggerated but they always play bad cricket there.
That actually is an inherent problem with India. Indian batsmen play on Indian pitches which are predominantly spinning tracks. When they go to England they see these bouncy tracks with almost negligible spin and a lot of breeze which moves the ball too much for pacers which is something Indian batsmen are predominantly not prepared for.
Moreover India didn't even have a great set of pace bowlers till last 5 years. There were only 1 or max 2 pace bowlers who were actually great. But since last 5-6 years India have one of the best pace attacks in the world. But yet they struggle to control the ball when they immediately get such favourable conditions. I think it's all about practice and familiarity. This is the reason Australia and New Zealand do soo good in England but fail when they come to India. Because they aren't familiar with the spinning tracks but I have seen most of foreign players have now settled with India conditions due to IPL.
I have virtually zero complaint from our recent fast bowling line up, they performed exceptionally well in the last couple of years. India failed in SENA (minus last Australia's tour) due to batting + bad selections.

IMO every team is bully in their own condition, for ex look at the current WI vs Eng series. How table turned in last couple of weeks and this is the same England team (more or less), Who faced the humiliating defeat in the Caribbean conditions.
True. This has always been a problem with cricket. Conditions of pitch and weather affect the match too much. Shouldn't we have matches at neutral venues? Lol. Sharjah UAE? but why would any country give their share of revenue to some other country?

Finally England is lucky to start the match and hopefully we will not see any interruption as i wage a bet for England to win and if there is no delay further i am hopeful that England to pick up all the wickets and win the match and the first hour is crucial and if England could pick a couple of wickets then the pressure will be back to West Indies and i hope England would grab the chances rather than spilling catches during crucial situation.

The match has started, but as per the weather prediction, there is still a chance for "Light rain showers". But I compared the prediction made for today and it shows some improvement. Looks like the chance of rain has gone down. Hopefully England would get 70-80 overs, which are needed to bowl out the remaining 8 West Indian batsmen. But looks like West Indies has got a good start here.

And we now have a rain delay!

I hope it does not continues for long. It would be bad for the match. I am sure team England will feel the same. Just 8 wickets more they need to wrap up the series.
West Indies start is not good they lost 2 very early wickets we have some good time so most chances this match is going to be end in favour of England 71/4 Broad is seventh bowler with 500 wickets in test matches.

Edit:  Early lunch and West Indies is 84/5.

England are now just 5 wickets away from winning the test match and the test series as well. It’s nice to see Broad comeback and picking up the wickets and entering the 500 club. Also, would be the Man of the match for this game. West Indies hope of saving this test match with the help of the rain seems to be fading away.


Haha! I think West Indies have their gods with them. There are some dark clouds lurking behind. So post lunch if we see some rains match could step more towards a draw. England would be literally crying after seeing this. LOL.
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July 28, 2020, 12:56:51 PM
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~snip~
I have virtually zero complaint from our recent fast bowling line up, they performed exceptionally well in the last couple of years. India failed in SENA (minus last Australia's tour) due to batting + bad selections.

IMO every team is bully in their own condition, for ex look at the current WI vs Eng series. How table turned in last couple of weeks and this is the same England team (more or less), Who faced the humiliating defeat in the Caribbean conditions.
True. This has always been a problem with cricket. Conditions of pitch and weather affect the match too much. Shouldn't we have matches at neutral venues? Lol. Sharjah UAE? but why would any country give their share of revenue to some other country?
If Indian team facing any SENA country in the middle east for all Test series then India is going to win 7 out of 10 times, as UAE supports spinners and Pitches are kinda dead for fast bowlers and Indian fast bowlers has fair amount of advantage here because climate is more or less similar to subcontinent.



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July 28, 2020, 01:02:10 PM
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Haha! I think West Indies have their gods with them. There are some dark clouds lurking behind. So post lunch if we see some rains match could step more towards a draw. England would be literally crying after seeing this. LOL.
There should be a rain festival going on with the West Indies fans as the rain has stopped play and hopefully we will resume soon as it is not a big shower and England just need 4 more wickets to wrap the match and i do not want to loose the match as i already wagged a series win for England and i do not want to mess that up because of rain and weather is a real killer as my blood pressure keeps on increasing when i see bad weather.
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July 28, 2020, 03:24:48 PM
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Player of the  Match - Stuart Broad-
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Who would have thought that the guy who got dropped in the first Test will come back and hijack all the limelight/headlines from the Ben Stokes. Cheesy
I did not follow-up today but this was meant to happen. Broad was out standing. I feel bad for Stokesi but good to see the balance and competition in English team. As a Test unit they are one of the best now.

W Indies just lost themselves even after all the blessings rain had for them.

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July 28, 2020, 03:32:06 PM
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Player of the  Match - Stuart Broad-
Player of the Series - Stuart Broad-

Who would have thought that the guy who got dropped in the first Test will come back and hijack all the limelight/headlines from the Ben Stokes. Cheesy
I expected Ben Stokes could share the man of the series with Stuart Broad rather than Roston Chase. It was a really good match and even with the rain interruption England was able to pick up the wickets and Stuart Broad once again proved why he is the best bowler in the squad as he was performing consistently and i was surprised to see him dropped in the first match and even Stuart Broad conveyed his disappointment for that decision.  
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July 28, 2020, 03:59:09 PM
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Player of the  Match - Stuart Broad-
Player of the Series - Stuart Broad-

Who would have thought that the guy who got dropped in the first Test will come back and hijack all the limelight/headlines from the Ben Stokes. Cheesy
Well deserved. He reached the 500 wicket milestone along with these awards which will surely boost his confidence going forward. Stokes did well though, but Broad was better in comparison.

What an end to the test series the way it started WI become the favourites because of the scintillating win in the first test match and then England wave came which ensured that they stood up to their capabilities and outshine the West Indies team. Third test match belong to Broad who contributed with the bat as well and achieved the 500+ wickets in tests. This was superb test series overall to watch.
West Indies won the 1st test since England were over-confident and rested players like Broad etc. It's always tough for the underdog to prevail in such conditions.

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July 28, 2020, 05:53:51 PM
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Player of the  Match - Stuart Broad-
Player of the Series - Stuart Broad-

Who would have thought that the guy who got dropped in the first Test will come back and hijack all the limelight/headlines from the Ben Stokes. Cheesy
I did not follow-up today but this was meant to happen. Broad was out standing. I feel bad for Stokesi but good to see the balance and competition in English team. As a Test unit they are one of the best now.

W Indies just lost themselves even after all the blessings rain had for them.

Apart from the first test, Windies showed themselves a third class team.  Jason Holder and team need to review their performance and need to evaluate what went wrong. England were the well deserve winner in the end.

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July 28, 2020, 06:47:11 PM
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Player of the  Match - Stuart Broad-
Player of the Series - Stuart Broad-

Who would have thought that the guy who got dropped in the first Test will come back and hijack all the limelight/headlines from the Ben Stokes. Cheesy
I did not follow-up today but this was meant to happen. Broad was out standing. I feel bad for Stokesi but good to see the balance and competition in English team. As a Test unit they are one of the best now.

W Indies just lost themselves even after all the blessings rain had for them.

Apart from the first test, Windies showed themselves a third class team.  Jason Holder and team need to review their performance and need to evaluate what went wrong. England were the well deserve winner in the end.

Impressive bowling by the English team, Stuart board was on a roll. West Indies lost their touch after the first match. England was dominating the match from day one. Overall a fantastic performance by the English team.

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July 28, 2020, 11:07:13 PM
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This was to be expected from the WI as they have not been a good test team for many years now and always crack under pressure. Yes I did pick them to win the first test match as I thought that both teams would be even after there was no cricket played for many months due to the virus so both teams didn't have match fitness or no form which is why I bet on the WI. It was always going to be tough to beat England on home soil once the England team could back into form which we saw in the second test and they continued on with that form into the third test and won the series which most here expected. Congrats to Stuart Broad on reaching 500 test wickets, I think he still has a few more years in him so we could see reach 600 wickets in the near future.

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Congrats to Stuart Broad on reaching 500 test wickets, I think he still has a few more years in him so we could see reach 600 wickets in the near future.
There is no doubt that Stuart Broad is a tremendous bowler and he works very hard on his fitness. If he continues to work hard in this way, he will get 600 wickets soon.

Believe me whenever I hear the name Stuart Broad, I remember this Yuvraj Singh.  Tongue
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July 29, 2020, 05:08:00 AM
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I have virtually zero complaint from our recent fast bowling line up, they performed exceptionally well in the last couple of years. India failed in SENA (minus last Australia's tour) due to batting + bad selections.

IMO every team is bully in their own condition, for ex look at the current WI vs Eng series. How table turned in last couple of weeks and this is the same England team (more or less), Who faced the humiliating defeat in the Caribbean conditions.
True. This has always been a problem with cricket. Conditions of pitch and weather affect the match too much. Shouldn't we have matches at neutral venues? Lol. Sharjah UAE? but why would any country give their share of revenue to some other country?
If Indian team facing any SENA country in the middle east for all Test series then India is going to win 7 out of 10 times, as UAE supports spinners and Pitches are kinda dead for fast bowlers and Indian fast bowlers has fair amount of advantage here because climate is more or less similar to subcontinent.



Meanwhile Windies team


Yeah true. So basically there is no solution to this thing. The team that hosts the series has 20% more chances of winning the series and we just need to accept that fact.

Meanwhile,Was it a sort of joke or match fixing? The type of batting West Indies did in the second Innings? They knew that they couldn't reach the target so a natural approach would have been to settle and play defensively but I don't know what sort lf mentality they were in.
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Congrats to Stuart Broad on reaching 500 test wickets, I think he still has a few more years in him so we could see reach 600 wickets in the near future.
There is no doubt that Stuart Broad is a tremendous bowler and he works very hard on his fitness. If he continues to work hard in this way, he will get 600 wickets soon.

Believe me whenever I hear the name Stuart Broad, I remember this Yuvraj Singh.  Tongue
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Hahah everyone in India remembers that night when they hear the name of Stuart Broad. How can I forget that crying face of Stuart Broad. He tried everything in that over but couldn't stop raining sixes.  Grin
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July 29, 2020, 05:18:10 AM
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Hahah everyone in India remembers that night when they hear the name of Stuart Broad. How can I forget that crying face of Stuart Broad. He tried everything in that over but couldn't stop raining sixes.  Grin

It can happen to anyone and in my opinion, Broad should not lose his sleep over something that occurred many years ago. This incident occurred when Broad was relatively new to the international scene, during the 2007 ICC World T20. He was in his early 20s and back then Yuvraj was one of the superstars of T20 cricket. Broad has come a long way from there.
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