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June 03, 2023, 03:28:03 PM
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After watching test matches against Bangladesh and Sri Lanka all were clear as they are still not able to perform, so now we are watching how things are going against team like England with now this match is going to end today without any entertaining just some good personal records for the English players which is surely matter of shame.
Ireland have recovered well in second innings. They are now 259/6 and trail by 93 runs.Andy McBrine and Mark Adair are on the crease and they both have added 100 runs to the total. Definitely Ireland are not in a position to win this game, the best result for Ireland will be to avoid a loss by an innings. Mark Adair is highest run scorer for Ireland in this game as he is not out on 61 (50).
Amazing batting skills from Mark Adair and McBrine which give good fightback to them even England is still in the game with trailing by few runs and 8 wickets gone not sure about McCollum who is injured because if he is able to bat then surely we can expect few more runs which give good entertainment to fans because still match is going to end today.

25 years old Tongue having impressive debut as first inning completely dominant by S Broad but now in this second inning he has 5 wickets haul on debut which is good start hopefully things could be better for him in coming matches as well 30 overs left in the day and Irish batting is still resisting which is amazing fight back.

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Ireland have recovered well in second innings. They are now 259/6 and trail by 93 runs.Andy McBrine and Mark Adair are on the crease and they both have added 100 runs to the total. Definitely Ireland are not in a position to win this game, the best result for Ireland will be to avoid a loss by an innings. Mark Adair is highest run scorer for Ireland in this game as he is not out on 61 (50).
Ireland can extend the match as long as they can and this is the third day and how long they can delay the inevitable. Mark Adair played an ODI kind of innings coming at 9th position and he should have scored a century for his performance but he went for the extravagant shot once again and lost his opportunity. Andy McBrine is on 76 and lets see how long he can extend his cameo.
After Ireland were bowled out for 172 runs in the first innings, I never imagined that they would play so well in the second innings. Sadly just got all out for 336 runs. Ireland finished the second innings with just 10 runs to spare to England. After being all out for 172 runs in the first innings, I thought the second innings would be worse. But the remarkable performance of the Ireland team in the second innings is truly surprising. However, the Ireland team forced the England team for just 10 runs to start their second innings.

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June 03, 2023, 04:58:44 PM
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Ireland no doubt is a weak test team but how can they become a strong test team? Bangladesh when started playing test was in similar condition but with time they gained strength. Ireland need more tests and that too against strong teams like Big 3. Only Afghanistan and Ireland are two teams that have got test status in last 20 years. With adoption of T20 format no new teams are joining the test format. Let Ireland play test format regardless of the result.
Agree with you, Ireland players need more time to perform better in test format. Irish players have played only 3 to 5 test matches. Where the players of other countries are experienced enough. Ireland has improved a lot on ODI format. They will also do the same in test if they get opportunity to play with big teams every year. The Irish Cricket Union has to take some steps too for improving the team performance.

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June 03, 2023, 05:49:56 PM
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After watching test matches against Bangladesh and Sri Lanka all were clear as they are still not able to perform, so now we are watching how things are going against team like England with now this match is going to end today without any entertaining just some good personal records for the English players which is surely matter of shame.

Ireland have recovered well in second innings. They are now 259/6 and trail by 93 runs.Andy McBrine and Mark Adair are on the crease and they both have added 100 runs to the total. Definitely Ireland are not in a position to win this game, the best result for Ireland will be to avoid a loss by an innings. Mark Adair is highest run scorer for Ireland in this game as he is not out on 61 (50).
A good try to cover some loss in 2nd innings, atleast they have brought the match to lead of 11 runs . But that was obvious they couldn't win from England because they were too good overall.

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June 03, 2023, 06:45:46 PM
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After watching test matches against Bangladesh and Sri Lanka all were clear as they are still not able to perform, so now we are watching how things are going against team like England with now this match is going to end today without any entertaining just some good personal records for the English players which is surely matter of shame.

Ireland have recovered well in second innings. They are now 259/6 and trail by 93 runs.Andy McBrine and Mark Adair are on the crease and they both have added 100 runs to the total. Definitely Ireland are not in a position to win this game, the best result for Ireland will be to avoid a loss by an innings. Mark Adair is highest run scorer for Ireland in this game as he is not out on 61 (50).
A good try to cover some loss in 2nd innings, atleast they have brought the match to lead of 11 runs . But that was obvious they couldn't win from England because they were too good overall.

Forget about the win, it was obvious that England will win this test match but we must appreciate the way Ireland batted in the second innings and avoided an innings defeat. I did not expect this type of fightback by the Ireland players. They really played good cricket against the strong England team.

It was a great fightback by Andy McBrine and Mark Adair who both scored 85+ runs and make sure that the Ireland team did not lose by an innings. Ireland has lost 6 wickets for only 162 runs and then they lost the 7th wicket at 325 runs which shows that these two batsmen stand in between England's early win.


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June 03, 2023, 06:48:11 PM
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Ireland have recovered well in second innings. They are now 259/6 and trail by 93 runs.Andy McBrine and Mark Adair are on the crease and they both have added 100 runs to the total. Definitely Ireland are not in a position to win this game, the best result for Ireland will be to avoid a loss by an innings. Mark Adair is highest run scorer for Ireland in this game as he is not out on 61 (50).
Congratulations to England for their outstanding performance, securing a resounding 10-wicket win. Despite the challenging situation Ireland has shown remarkable resilience in their second innings, with a score of 362 runs. The partnership between Andy McBrine and Mark Adair contributing 100 runs highlights their determination. While victory may be out of reach Ireland has only focus is on avoiding an innings defeat. Mark Adair impressive knock of 88 runs showcases his valuable contribution but Ireland set a commendably low target of just 12 runs, and Ollie Pope exceptional batting performance, scoring 205 runs, earned him the well-deserved Player of the Match award.
England team could not win by innings margin for few runs. If Ireland had reduced by 13 runs in the second innings, they would have been defeated by England by an innings in this match, but Ireland managed to erase that shame.  

England declared the innings by scoring 524 runs in the first innings against Ireland. When Ireland were bowled out for 172 in the first innings, England invited them to bat again but compared to the first innings, Ireland batted very well in the second innings. They managed to score 362 runs in the second innings which saved them from losing by an innings.

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June 03, 2023, 07:00:09 PM
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Ireland have recovered well in second innings. They are now 259/6 and trail by 93 runs.Andy McBrine and Mark Adair are on the crease and they both have added 100 runs to the total. Definitely Ireland are not in a position to win this game, the best result for Ireland will be to avoid a loss by an innings. Mark Adair is highest run scorer for Ireland in this game as he is not out on 61 (50).
Congratulations to England for their outstanding performance, securing a resounding 10-wicket win. Despite the challenging situation Ireland has shown remarkable resilience in their second innings, with a score of 362 runs. The partnership between Andy McBrine and Mark Adair contributing 100 runs highlights their determination. While victory may be out of reach Ireland has only focus is on avoiding an innings defeat. Mark Adair impressive knock of 88 runs showcases his valuable contribution but Ireland set a commendably low target of just 12 runs, and Ollie Pope exceptional batting performance, scoring 205 runs, earned him the well-deserved Player of the Match award.
England team could not win by innings margin for few runs. If Ireland had reduced by 13 runs in the second innings, they would have been defeated by England by an innings in this match, but Ireland managed to erase that shame.  

England declared the innings by scoring 524 runs in the first innings against Ireland. When Ireland were bowled out for 172 in the first innings, England invited them to bat again but compared to the first innings, Ireland batted very well in the second innings. They managed to score 362 runs in the second innings which saved them from losing by an innings.
Why don't the team have similar performance in the first innings. Recently Ireland have played test matches against Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and now against England. Right now the team is getting into the test cricket. Among this, it played well against Sri Lanka and scored 492 runs in one of the innings. At the end the team lost the match by an innings. So, losing by an innings could happen at any situation. I hope Ireland will perform better with time when they continue playing against different teams.

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Ireland no doubt is a weak test team but how can they become a strong test team? Bangladesh when started playing test was in similar condition but with time they gained strength. Ireland need more tests and that too against strong teams like Big 3. Only Afghanistan and Ireland are two teams that have got test status in last 20 years. With adoption of T20 format no new teams are joining the test format. Let Ireland play test format regardless of the result.
Agree with you, Ireland players need more time to perform better in test format. Irish players have played only 3 to 5 test matches. Where the players of other countries are experienced enough. Ireland has improved a lot on ODI format. They will also do the same in test if they get opportunity to play with big teams every year. The Irish Cricket Union has to take some steps too for improving the team performance.
Yes, it's just a matter of time before Ireland achieves its full potential in Test matches. Ireland needs to rethink this. Improvement is essential in the Ireland Test. The second inning saw the Island try to make some comeback. It could not bring any benefit. Because overall England was very good. While Ireland can do well in ODI and T20 format, they are very clumsy in Tests



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England finished 2nd innings within 0.4 ov



Yesterday, Ireland gave England a lead of just 10 runs as England started the second innings and ended the second innings with just four balls. Zak Crawley scored 12 runs with three fours off four balls to end the second innings. However, his 300 career strikes rate has increased his total strikes rate.
An interesting fact is that if Ireland had finished the second innings the way they had finished the first innings, they might have lost by an innings. However, Ireland did not lose by an innings yesterday.

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Not sure what to make out of this test match, except.

In a Bazball era, this was just a practice match ahead of the big Ashes series or maybe a bit dull start of the English home season in terms of competitiveness. From Ireland's perspective, only 2nd inning was notable but again deck was flat and the word is Stokes & co demanded flat decks for the Ashes series due to Bazball effect. It would be fun from a neutral point of view.

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England finished 2nd innings within 0.4 ov

Yesterday, Ireland gave England a lead of just 10 runs as England started the second innings and ended the second innings with just four balls. Zak Crawley scored 12 runs with three fours off four balls to end the second innings. However, his 300 career strikes rate has increased his total strikes rate.
An interesting fact is that if Ireland had finished the second innings the way they had finished the first innings, they might have lost by an innings. However, Ireland did not lose by an innings yesterday.

There was no doubt that this was the expected result. There was no way anyone could have predicted that Ireland would win the test match against England. It was very close to being a big loss for Ireland. It is a big loss anywhere. But it could have been an innings difference. However, Ireland was able to avoid such a situation. As expected, it was an excellent performance on the part of England. There was no doubt in my mind from the beginning that Ireland would not have a chance against England. However, it is a good thing to see that at least Ireland gave it a try.

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June 04, 2023, 06:45:11 PM
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England finished 2nd innings within 0.4 ov

Yesterday, Ireland gave England a lead of just 10 runs as England started the second innings and ended the second innings with just four balls. Zak Crawley scored 12 runs with three fours off four balls to end the second innings. However, his 300 career strikes rate has increased his total strikes rate.
An interesting fact is that if Ireland had finished the second innings the way they had finished the first innings, they might have lost by an innings. However, Ireland did not lose by an innings yesterday.

There was no doubt that this was the expected result. There was no way anyone could have predicted that Ireland would win the test match against England. It was very close to being a big loss for Ireland. It is a big loss anywhere. But it could have been an innings difference. However, Ireland was able to avoid such a situation. As expected, it was an excellent performance on the part of England. There was no doubt in my mind from the beginning that Ireland would not have a chance against England. However, it is a good thing to see that at least Ireland gave it a try.
Ireland right now have this pattern In test matches in first innings they collapse badly and in 2and innings they gain some momentum but obviously that of no use as match went out of their hands.
England is an excellent team and experienced too they literally enjoyed this test thoroughly.

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Ireland right now have this pattern In test matches in first innings they collapse badly and in 2and innings they gain some momentum but obviously that of no use as match went out of their hands.
England is an excellent team and experienced too they literally enjoyed this test thoroughly.

an experienced team England easily wins over Ireland in this test match. English bowlers keeps momentum of picking wickets and broad five wickets hole bowled out whole Ireland team on just 172 runs. Ireland make some recovery in the second inining but all they couldn't do better from this as the english bowlers was using pace and experience.
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Ireland right now have this pattern In test matches in first innings they collapse badly and in 2and innings they gain some momentum but obviously that of no use as match went out of their hands.
England is an excellent team and experienced too they literally enjoyed this test thoroughly.

an experienced team England easily wins over Ireland in this test match. English bowlers keeps momentum of picking wickets and broad five wickets hole bowled out whole Ireland team on just 172 runs. Ireland make some recovery in the second inining but all they couldn't do better from this as the english bowlers was using pace and experience.
It all changes when the team plays against different teams. Ireland team is completely new to test format cricket. Long back itself it have played one or two test matches. For most of the players in the squad this test match seems to be the second or third test match in their career. Only through experience teams will get better with their performance. Initially the team is not that good with T20 and ODI format of cricket. Now their position is better, and similar transition will happen with test format in the future.

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Not sure what to make out of this test match, except.

In a Bazball era, this was just a practice match ahead of the big Ashes series or maybe a bit dull start of the English home season in terms of competitiveness. From Ireland's perspective, only 2nd inning was notable but again deck was flat and the word is Stokes & co demanded flat decks for the Ashes series due to Bazball effect. It would be fun from a neutral point of view.

Preparing flat decks would mean that Marnus Labuschagne and Steve Smith will make tons of runs against the England bowlers. From what I have heard, both James Anderson and Mark Wood are not 100% fit. The burden of pace bowling is likely to fall on the shoulders of Stuart Broad, and the less experienced seamers like Ollie Robinson, Josh Tongue and Chris Woakes. Australian bowlers on the other hand, are capable of taking wickets even in flat tracks. It is up to the ECB to decide which type of pitch they want, but in all probability it is going to backfire.

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June 05, 2023, 07:04:30 AM
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After watching test matches against Bangladesh and Sri Lanka all were clear as they are still not able to perform, so now we are watching how things are going against team like England with now this match is going to end today without any entertaining just some good personal records for the English players which is surely matter of shame.

Ireland have recovered well in second innings. They are now 259/6 and trail by 93 runs.Andy McBrine and Mark Adair are on the crease and they both have added 100 runs to the total. Definitely Ireland are not in a position to win this game, the best result for Ireland will be to avoid a loss by an innings. Mark Adair is highest run scorer for Ireland in this game as he is not out on 61 (50).
Ireland did better in the second innings than the first innings. Ireland standard of play has improved. The second innings saw two of Ireland's best batsmen who only got a chance to play a few matches. Andy McBrine has only played 6 matches in the last match but his performance has really established him as a Test player. He was unbeaten in the 2nd innings. It is not an easy task to perform so well against England's bowlers. Mark Adair also performed well in the last match. Being new to Test cricket, their performance was relatively good.

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Not sure what to make out of this test match, except.

In a Bazball era, this was just a practice match ahead of the big Ashes series or maybe a bit dull start of the English home season in terms of competitiveness. From Ireland's perspective, only 2nd inning was notable but again deck was flat and the word is Stokes & co demanded flat decks for the Ashes series due to Bazball effect. It would be fun from a neutral point of view.

Preparing flat decks would mean that Marnus Labuschagne and Steve Smith will make tons of runs against the England bowlers. From what I have heard, both James Anderson and Mark Wood are not 100% fit. The burden of pace bowling is likely to fall on the shoulders of Stuart Broad, and the less experienced seamers like Ollie Robinson, Josh Tongue and Chris Woakes. Australian bowlers on the other hand, are capable of taking wickets even in flat tracks. It is up to the ECB to decide which type of pitch they want, but in all probability it is going to backfire.
Of course, it could play into the opposition's hands as well but Brendon McCullum and Ben Stokes are banking on their Bazball approach where they go with their usual business with 5-6 runs per over and put pressure on opponents. 

To beat this Aussie need to ball well on a flat deck (if they introduce flat ones) and also need a healthy run rate when batting.

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June 05, 2023, 12:26:02 PM
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Not sure what to make out of this test match, except.
In a Bazball era, this was just a practice match ahead of the big Ashes series or maybe a bit dull start of the English home season in terms of competitiveness. From Ireland's perspective, only 2nd inning was notable but again deck was flat and the word is Stokes & co demanded flat decks for the Ashes series due to Bazball effect. It would be fun from a neutral point of view.
Preparing flat decks would mean that Marnus Labuschagne and Steve Smith will make tons of runs against the England bowlers. From what I have heard, both James Anderson and Mark Wood are not 100% fit. The burden of pace bowling is likely to fall on the shoulders of Stuart Broad, and the less experienced seamers like Ollie Robinson, Josh Tongue and Chris Woakes. Australian bowlers on the other hand, are capable of taking wickets even in flat tracks. It is up to the ECB to decide which type of pitch they want, but in all probability it is going to backfire.
Of course, it could play into the opposition's hands as well but Brendon McCullum and Ben Stokes are banking on their Bazball approach where they go with their usual business with 5-6 runs per over and put pressure on opponents. 
To beat this Aussie need to ball well on a flat deck (if they introduce flat ones) and also need a healthy run rate when batting.

First of all, I think it is not going to be interesting if they decide to prepare a flat deck. It actually might end up in one of those boring draws. That is something which the spectators certainly do not want to see. And for some reason, if they do decide to actually prepare a flat track everything is going to fall on the shoulders of the fast bowlers and it will come down to how fast they can actually bowl. And of course, bouncers are going to be the way to go. But for the sake of entertainment, I hope they do not repair a flat track.



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June 05, 2023, 12:46:19 PM
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Ireland have recovered well in second innings. They are now 259/6 and trail by 93 runs.Andy McBrine and Mark Adair are on the crease and they both have added 100 runs to the total. Definitely Ireland are not in a position to win this game, the best result for Ireland will be to avoid a loss by an innings. Mark Adair is highest run scorer for Ireland in this game as he is not out on 61 (50).
Ireland 2nd innings showed a notable improvement compared to their first innings struggle. Despite a low total of 172 runs in the first innings Ireland's batsmen displayed resilience and determination. Andy McBrine  performance in particular stood out showcasing his potential as a Test player with an unbeaten inning of 86 runs. Mark Adair also showed promise, considering his relative newness to Test cricket. While England experience was evident as they scored 524 runs and secured an easy victory Ireland growth and individual performances provide optimism for their future in Test cricket.
England team made a big score in the first innings which was a big equation for Ireland team. Ireland have just started their journey in Test cricket so they are certain to lose against England. However, some of the positives that the Ireland team has shown in the Test match have been encouraging. At the moment as much as they gain experience they will be more efficient. While playing against England, the top order of the Ireland team could not do well, resulting in a major disaster in terms of score.
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Ireland have recovered well in second innings. They are now 259/6 and trail by 93 runs.Andy McBrine and Mark Adair are on the crease and they both have added 100 runs to the total. Definitely Ireland are not in a position to win this game, the best result for Ireland will be to avoid a loss by an innings. Mark Adair is highest run scorer for Ireland in this game as he is not out on 61 (50).
Ireland 2nd innings showed a notable improvement compared to their first innings struggle. Despite a low total of 172 runs in the first innings Ireland's batsmen displayed resilience and determination. Andy McBrine  performance in particular stood out showcasing his potential as a Test player with an unbeaten inning of 86 runs. Mark Adair also showed promise, considering his relative newness to Test cricket. While England experience was evident as they scored 524 runs and secured an easy victory Ireland growth and individual performances provide optimism for their future in Test cricket.
England team made a big score in the first innings which was a big equation for Ireland team. Ireland have just started their journey in Test cricket so they are certain to lose against England. However, some of the positives that the Ireland team has shown in the Test match have been encouraging. At the moment as much as they gain experience they will be more efficient. While playing against England, the top order of the Ireland team could not do well, resulting in a major disaster in terms of score.
While Ireland outcome was not ideal the England team first innings objective was unquestionably a lofty one. Even though they were playing Test cricket for the first time the Irish players showed signs of potential and tenacity throughout the match. Experience is an important factor in any team effectiveness and the Ireland team will undoubtedly develop and get better as they get more exposure to the longer format of the match. It is crucial to see this setback as a teaching opportunity rather than a massive catastrophe despite the fact that their top order struggled against the English bowlers. Every match offers the participants a chance to hone their abilities adjust to various situations and improve their overall performance.

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