ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod]

[BobK71]

Kohli again fail to give any positive impression which is surely now headache for selectors as World Cup is coming in just three months, and now they are going to West Indies for another ODI and T-20 series. India's need to have few top order batsmen in good form if they want to perform good in mega event but sadly right now Dhawan, Sharma and Kohli all out of form.

Three important and experienced batsmen in India's top order are out of form. The coming world will not be good for India. If Rohit, Kohli and Shikhar Dhawan don't play well, India won't even make it to the semi-finals of the World Cup. But I'm worried aboutKohli. He is likely to be dropped from the team if he fails to return to form. He was a complete failure in this.

Kholii is under pressure and he has gone through enough criticism already
I think it is an end of career for Kholi - once the player is this much under pressure - they barely come back.

England's top order batsmen Bairstow and Root both returned to 0 in this match. Rishabh Pant on the other hand scored 125 runs for India which took the match in hand otherwise the game would not have been so easy. After all it must be said that India played well though Kohli has not been able to improve his performance probably he has to face various questions.

[Haunebu]

I think it is an end of career for Kholi - once the player is this much under pressure - they barely come back.

End of career? I disagree. Players like Mohammad Amir got banned from Cricket and came back stronger than ever which is just one example to prove that it's possible to retain your form even after a prolonged lean patch.

Kohli scored 17 runs in his last ODI and definitely need rest. He will come back strong

He needs to come back strong if he wishes to return to his glory days. Sad to see such an amazing player in such horrible form these days.

[kro55]

South Africa Women VS England Women

An ODI match between England Women's team and South Africa Women's team is being held. England Women's team managed to set a huge target of 372. Tammy Beaumont scored 119 runs for the team. The First 4 batsmen all scored more than 50 runs.
South Africa is batting now. They managed to collect 80 runs after losing 1 wicket in 13 overs. Their run rate is good enough. Probably they will score close to 300 runs.

[mm2543363580]

South Africa Women VS England Women

An ODI match between England Women's team and South Africa Women's team is being held. England Women's team managed to set a huge target of 372. Tammy Beaumont scored 119 runs for the team. The First 4 batsmen all scored more than 50 runs.
South Africa is batting now. They managed to collect 80 runs after losing 1 wicket in 13 overs. Their run rate is good enough. Probably they will score close to 300 runs.

Heard that - there is a World Cup being held in Oct - Sep and all the players will be above 65.
The matches will be held in Australia. and it will be help in Sep and October this year.

[Sithara007]

South Africa Women VS England Women

An ODI match between England Women's team and South Africa Women's team is being held. England Women's team managed to set a huge target of 372. Tammy Beaumont scored 119 runs for the team. The First 4 batsmen all scored more than 50 runs.
South Africa is batting now. They managed to collect 80 runs after losing 1 wicket in 13 overs. Their run rate is good enough. Probably they will score close to 300 runs.

England won by 109 runs in the end. It is quite simple. Teams with very well developed domestic systems, such as Australia and England do have an advantage over the other teams. On top of that, the brain drain problem in South Africa is applicable for its women's team as well. Some of the quality players have migrated out of the country recently. Anyway, these matches will serve as warmups before the Commonwealth Games start. England is trying hard to win the gold medal, with South Africa being a distant contender.

[rojan]

South Africa Women VS England Women

An ODI match between England Women's team and South Africa Women's team is being held. England Women's team managed to set a huge target of 372. Tammy Beaumont scored 119 runs for the team. The First 4 batsmen all scored more than 50 runs.
South Africa is batting now. They managed to collect 80 runs after losing 1 wicket in 13 overs. Their run rate is good enough. Probably they will score close to 300 runs.

All the players in the England Women team played well, I think they will play very well in today's match.  Tammy Beaumont scored 119 off 107 balls.  I think he played very well.  Emma Lamb scored 65 off 66 balls.

[Sithara007]

South Africa Women VS England Women

An ODI match between England Women's team and South Africa Women's team is being held. England Women's team managed to set a huge target of 372. Tammy Beaumont scored 119 runs for the team. The First 4 batsmen all scored more than 50 runs.
South Africa is batting now. They managed to collect 80 runs after losing 1 wicket in 13 overs. Their run rate is good enough. Probably they will score close to 300 runs.

All the players in the England Women team played well, I think they will play very well in today's match.  Tammy Beaumont scored 119 off 107 balls.  I think he played very well.  Emma Lamb scored 65 off 66 balls.

Tammy Beaumont was excluded from the squad for Commonwealth Games, and she responded with a century against South Africa. Selectors have responded by claiming that she's suitable only for the 50-over format and not for the shorter one. In the end, South Africa got thrashed and went down by such a big margin. Both the teams will be a part of the Commonwealth Games cricket competition as well (T20 format) and it will be interesting to see whether the Africans can recover from their recent losses.

[LittleBitFunny]

As expected, India defeated England despite initial issues during their innings. England are over-dependent as usual on certain players which keeps screwing them again and again.
Pant and Pandya were amazing and totally took the game away from England. Why the heck does Kohli keep getting so many chances? I love his batting, but he needs to embrace the fact that he needs a long break to help recover his form.
Smith has also had a lean patch in recent years, but he still scores centuries now and then. This is the best way to support him in my opinion.

India won the three match series 2/1, in last ODI England batsmen were too shy to face Indian bowling and got out on just 259 runs. Indian selectors have dropped kohli from next tour seeing his performance. Kohli scored 17 runs in his last ODI and definitely need rest. He will come back strong

Indian bowlers bowled brilliantly. England would have given a target of at least 320 on this type of pitch had the Indian bowlers not performed well. Especially the bowling of Hardik Pandya and Chahal was outstanding.
Kohli continued his poor performance. Still BCCI is giving him a place in the main squad. We are not sure how long BCCI will give Kohli such an opportunity. But if Kohli cannot return to form before the World Cup, then it is uncertain for him to perform in the World Cup.

Three ODIs were played in different grounds, so no one is able to make a prediction on the scoring. However Indian players made perfect study and did the best. As said if England have scored 300 runs, surely India would've experienced difficulty in chasing the target.
Kohli didn't bat in the first ODI. In the second and third ODI he have scored 16 ans 17 runs. He'll make a comeback, and he needs to play normal than playing with pressure. Within few days India touring West Indies for a 3 match ODI series. Indian squad for West Indies isn't announced.

you are right. As the matches were held at different venues, it was difficult to make predictions about the matches. In the last match, the pitch was a batting aid. Everyone expected England to deliver a target of more than 300. But due to the great performance of the Indian bowlers, the England team had to stop at only 259 runs.

BCCI is indecisive now about Kohli. Kohli is an experienced player. A platform like the World Cup requires experienced players in the team. On the other hand, Kohli's performance is not good. Perhaps Kohli will be kept in the squad against the West Indies series. And if he can score a century then I think Kohli is guaranteed to be in India's squad for the World Cup.

[Sithara007]

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BCCI is indecisive now about Kohli. Kohli is an experienced player. A platform like the World Cup requires experienced players in the team. On the other hand, Kohli's performance is not good. Perhaps Kohli will be kept in the squad against the West Indies series. And if he can score a century then I think Kohli is guaranteed to be in India's squad for the World Cup.

I disagree. Kohli has been a big burden for the Indian side, especially during the ICC tournaments. When was the last time India won an ICC tournament under the leadership of Kohli? His career has been going downslide ever since he got addicted to the Bollywood woke behavior. He needs to learn a lesson or two from Hardik Pandya, who took some time off and came back with a bang. IMO, Kohli needs a break of 6 months or so, during which he can play county cricket in England or Sheffield Shield in Australia. That will help him to regain his focus.

[laurenB7742]

England - South Africa

The first ODI match between England vs South Africa will be played today. Both teams will play 3 ODIs, 3 T20s and 3 Test matches in this series. After a humiliating series defeats against India, England will need a win against South Africa today. South Africa played their last ODI series against Bangladesh, and South Africa lost the series. And so in this series, I consider England as the favorite.

[JSRAW]

England - South Africa

The first ODI match between England vs South Africa will be played today. Both teams will play 3 ODIs, 3 T20s and 3 Test matches in this series. After a humiliating series defeats against India, England will need a win against South Africa today. South Africa played their last ODI series against Bangladesh, and South Africa lost the series. And so in this series, I consider England as the favorite.

I don't how much bilateral series are they (England and India) going to play on regular basis. Their respective cricket boards are not in mood of any rest at all. They just finished their series against each other and already started preparation for new ones. India also travelling somewhere for another white ball series.

No wonder Ben stokes took retirement from ODI format.

[Juggy777]

England - South Africa

The first ODI match between England vs South Africa will be played today. Both teams will play 3 ODIs, 3 T20s and 3 Test matches in this series. After a humiliating series defeats against India, England will need a win against South Africa today. South Africa played their last ODI series against Bangladesh, and South Africa lost the series. And so in this series, I consider England as the favorite.

I don't how much bilateral series are they (England and India) going to play on regular basis. Their respective cricket boards are not in mood of any rest at all. They just finished their series against each other and already started preparation for new ones. India also travelling somewhere for another white ball series.

No wonder Ben stokes took retirement from ODI format.

@JSRAW his retirement is a huge loss not only for England but for the fans too, I for one will definitely miss him in the ODI format and I’m sincerely praying that he continues in other formats for a long while now. Furthermore South Africa seems to have a stable start as they have scored 72 runs in 13 overs for the loss of one wicket, but if England can get few quick wickets now then that’ll definitely put SA under pressure and give England a chance to win this game easily.

[JSRAW]

@JSRAW his retirement is a huge loss not only for England but for the fans too, I for one will definitely miss him in the ODI format and I’m sincerely praying that he continues in other formats for a long while now. Furthermore South Africa seems to have a stable start as they have scored 72 runs in 13 overs for the loss of one wicket, but if England can get few quick wickets now then that’ll definitely put SA under pressure and give England a chance to win this game easily.

Agreed bhai, he had a huge fan following in every cricketing nation and it's a big loss considering 50 overs WC is schedule next year.

The amount of cricket these players are playing is not good sign and playing all 3 format is not sustainable anymore for many players especially Indians or in some extent English players too.

[onecall123]

England - South Africa

The first ODI match between England vs South Africa will be played today. Both teams will play 3 ODIs, 3 T20s and 3 Test matches in this series. After a humiliating series defeats against India, England will need a win against South Africa today. South Africa played their last ODI series against Bangladesh, and South Africa lost the series. And so in this series, I consider England as the favorite.

South Africa are in the driving seat, with 215/2 after 36 overs. Rassie van der Dussen is likely to hit a century, even though Malan ended his innings a little earlier than expected. Rassie van der Dussen and Markram are on the pitch and both are capable of big things from here on out. Their relaxed and comfortable style allows them to go big, so around 340-350 would be enough to beat Eng.

[Iranus]

England - South Africa

The first ODI match between England vs South Africa will be played today. Both teams will play 3 ODIs, 3 T20s and 3 Test matches in this series. After a humiliating series defeats against India, England will need a win against South Africa today. South Africa played their last ODI series against Bangladesh, and South Africa lost the series. And so in this series, I consider England as the favorite.

South Africa are in the driving seat, with 215/2 after 36 overs. Rassie van der Dussen is likely to hit a century, even though Malan ended his innings a little earlier than expected. Rassie van der Dussen and Markram are on the pitch and both are capable of big things from here on out. Their relaxed and comfortable style allows them to go big, so around 340-350 would be enough to beat Eng.

After winning the toss and electing to bat, South Africa set a huge target of 334 runs. van der Dussan's 117-ball 133, and Markram's scored 77 on 61 balls, both were outstanding. Since this is a batting-friendly pitch, England's chances of winning are not low. If the opening pair plays well then England's chances of winning will increase.

[Haunebu]

Was stunned to find out that Stokes retired from ODI cricket and the recent ODI against India was his last match. This sucks since I feel that he is most probably the best all-rounder in some formats these days.

I'll never forget his 'Hand of God' moment in the previous World Cup final which was crazy entertaining even though I never accepted the result.

[Swordsoffreedom]

England - South Africa

The first ODI match between England vs South Africa will be played today. Both teams will play 3 ODIs, 3 T20s and 3 Test matches in this series. After a humiliating series defeats against India, England will need a win against South Africa today. South Africa played their last ODI series against Bangladesh, and South Africa lost the series. And so in this series, I consider England as the favorite.

South Africa are in the driving seat, with 215/2 after 36 overs. Rassie van der Dussen is likely to hit a century, even though Malan ended his innings a little earlier than expected. Rassie van der Dussen and Markram are on the pitch and both are capable of big things from here on out. Their relaxed and comfortable style allows them to go big, so around 340-350 would be enough to beat Eng.

After winning the toss and electing to bat, South Africa set a huge target of 334 runs. van der Dussan's 117-ball 133, and Markram's scored 77 on 61 balls, both were outstanding. Since this is a batting-friendly pitch, England's chances of winning are not low. If the opening pair plays well then England's chances of winning will increase.

South Africa has set a huge target. If England wants to win, they need to score around 6.7 runs per over. It's not easy. But England's batsmen are playing very carefully. They collected only 68 runs in 14 overs. But no wicket has been lost yet. Although now the run rate is very low. But if England does not lose wickets then England will win this match. Because there are a lot of aggressive players in England's squad.

[JSRAW]

Was stunned to find out that Stokes retired from ODI cricket and the recent ODI against India was his last match. This sucks since I feel that he is most probably the best all-rounder in some formats these days.

I'll never forget his 'Hand of God' moment in the previous World Cup final which was crazy entertaining even though I never accepted the result.

Small correction, his last outing in ODI format was tonight against Proteas. Didn't do anything special in his final appearance tho.

Haha guess no one can forget that moment and technically majority of fans around the world thinks the same except Poms.

[Sithara007]

Keshav Maharaj as the captain of the South African team is performing well. Yesterday, his field placing was exceptional and directly resulted in some of the top order England batsmen getting out. It is just amazing.. after all the player exodus and financial troubles, South Africa managed to beat one of the big-4 sides, and that too while playing abroad.

That said, I don't know what happened to their transition targets. Sometime within this year, the cricket board announced that the number of white players in the XI will be reduced to 4. Yesterday's XI had 7 white (Malan, dKock, vdDussen, Markram, Miller, Klaasen and Nortje) and 4 non-white (Phehlukwayo, Maharaj, Ngidi and Shamsi) players. And actually they had 8 white players, since Dwaine Pretorius replaced Andile Phehlukwayo during the second innings.

[GigaBit]

England - South Africa

The first ODI match between England vs South Africa will be played today. Both teams will play 3 ODIs, 3 T20s and 3 Test matches in this series. After a humiliating series defeats against India, England will need a win against South Africa today. South Africa played their last ODI series against Bangladesh, and South Africa lost the series. And so in this series, I consider England as the favorite.

South Africa are in the driving seat, with 215/2 after 36 overs. Rassie van der Dussen is likely to hit a century, even though Malan ended his innings a little earlier than expected. Rassie van der Dussen and Markram are on the pitch and both are capable of big things from here on out. Their relaxed and comfortable style allows them to go big, so around 340-350 would be enough to beat Eng.

South Africa got a big win in the first ODI match between England and South Africa. Van der Dussen able to manage a century. Markram and Janneman Malan both scored well. Africa give the target of 333 runs against England. England had a good partnership at the start but it didn't last long as they lost the first ODI by Big distance. England will find their faults and to be prepared for 2nd ODI.