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August 14, 2022, 02:54:22 AM
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And yes Shakib al Hassan got a lot of money from IPL. But his performance was not very good in the IPL, to be honest. Yes I agree that he did neglect his international duties at times because of IPL.
There are some countries like Australia, England or New Zealand any of these countries expressing interest in playing a franchise team keeping the national game? Of course not. But in Shakib's case it seems to be the complete opposite. Many people in Bangladesh have made such comments. Because of this, BCB has sometimes warned him through letters. So he should focus on the domestic game.
Shakib is a good cricketer, but money matters alot. His activities is a true example for the same. In the past several issues have arisen with players from different countries prioritising franchise cricket even when there is matches scheduled for their country. Nowadays after proper agreement only players were allowed to participate.
Shakib-Al-Hasan is a good quality player but he is in every team and works hard for skin care if some more pillars like Shakib Al-Hasan are holding Bangladesh then Bangladesh would be very blessed I think any other player like Shakib-Al-Hasan  I don't see Bangladesh, he is perfect in all aspects, he is a very popular player, I think Shakib-al-Hasan is a good player, many people like him.


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August 14, 2022, 06:49:09 AM
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And yes Shakib al Hassan got a lot of money from IPL. But his performance was not very good in the IPL, to be honest. Yes I agree that he did neglect his international duties at times because of IPL.
There are some countries like Australia, England or New Zealand any of these countries expressing interest in playing a franchise team keeping the national game? Of course not. But in Shakib's case it seems to be the complete opposite. Many people in Bangladesh have made such comments. Because of this, BCB has sometimes warned him through letters. So he should focus on the domestic game.
Between Australia, England and South Africa, the players are quite restrained. Moreover, the cricket management team is always free from politics but the Bangladesh Cricket Board is completely dominated and exploited by a particular group. Here only players affiliated with politicians can do whatever they want. Especially if Shakib Al Hasan is going to catch Bangladesh, the backbone player should he involve himself with casino gambling.
Here is a point that raises questions in many spectators. Why did Shakib sign a contract with Betwinner despite knowing everything? The simple answer is that he signed a contract with Betwinner's news channel. He thought it would be legal and won't bother him at all. But the situation is completely opposite. So he had to withdraw the contract. Maybe if he had a good relationship with the board he would have got this permission.

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August 14, 2022, 07:31:15 AM
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And yes Shakib al Hassan got a lot of money from IPL. But his performance was not very good in the IPL, to be honest. Yes I agree that he did neglect his international duties at times because of IPL.
There are some countries like Australia, England or New Zealand any of these countries expressing interest in playing a franchise team keeping the national game? Of course not. But in Shakib's case it seems to be the complete opposite. Many people in Bangladesh have made such comments. Because of this, BCB has sometimes warned him through letters. So he should focus on the domestic game.
Between Australia, England and South Africa, the players are quite restrained. Moreover, the cricket management team is always free from politics but the Bangladesh Cricket Board is completely dominated and exploited by a particular group. Here only players affiliated with politicians can do whatever they want. Especially if Shakib Al Hasan is going to catch Bangladesh, the backbone player should he involve himself with casino gambling.
Here is a point that raises questions in many spectators. Why did Shakib sign a contract with Betwinner despite knowing everything? The simple answer is that he signed a contract with Betwinner's news channel. He thought it would be legal and won't bother him at all. But the situation is completely opposite. So he had to withdraw the contract. Maybe if he had a good relationship with the board he would have got this permission.
As per my understanding, any kind of gambling is banned in Bangladesh and I am not sure how this sports betting website approached him as they cannot operate in Bangladesh legally. I am not sure whether online sports betting is legal at the moment in Bangladesh or if they do not have any law in place. As of now, this issue has been resolved but in my opinion this was stupidity on Shakib's part.

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^^ If there was any sprinting contest for hypocrisy then Indian subcontinent will top the chart every single time.

Government do have policy of complete ban on any kind of betting, which is okay but at the same time there is virtually no restriction on club-hotel casinos. Rich peoples are allowed to do everything but when it comes to others then it becomes haram. Exactly same thing happens in India.

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August 14, 2022, 06:55:46 PM
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Between Australia, England and South Africa, the players are quite restrained. Moreover, the cricket management team is always free from politics but the Bangladesh Cricket Board is completely dominated and exploited by a particular group. Here only players affiliated with politicians can do whatever they want. Especially if Shakib Al Hasan is going to catch Bangladesh, the backbone player should he involve himself with casino gambling.
Here is a point that raises questions in many spectators. Why did Shakib sign a contract with Betwinner despite knowing everything? The simple answer is that he signed a contract with Betwinner's news channel. He thought it would be legal and won't bother him at all. But the situation is completely opposite. So he had to withdraw the contract. Maybe if he had a good relationship with the board he would have got this permission.
As per my understanding, any kind of gambling is banned in Bangladesh and I am not sure how this sports betting website approached him as they cannot operate in Bangladesh legally. I am not sure whether online sports betting is legal at the moment in Bangladesh or if they do not have any law in place. As of now, this issue has been resolved but in my opinion this was stupidity on Shakib's part.

Hey as far as I am aware, gambling is illegal in Bangladesh. But how would the Bangladesh government explain that the president of the Bangladesh cricket world was found gambling in a casino? And how is he still president of BBC? lol..

Almost everyone knows that he is still the president of the Bangladesh cricket board because he is quite a powerful individual from the political standpoint of Bangladesh. And there are a lot of people who are actually more deserving of that job.

So, tell me how the president of the Bangladesh cricket board gets caught red-handed gambling in casinos and doesn’t get any action taken against him, on the other hand, Shakib Al Hasan is just in contact with a gambler and that got him banned for one year?  Undecided

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August 14, 2022, 10:37:23 PM
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Hey as far as I am aware, gambling is illegal in Bangladesh. But how would the Bangladesh government explain that the president of the Bangladesh cricket world was found gambling in a casino? And how is he still president of BBC? lol..

Almost everyone knows that he is still the president of the Bangladesh cricket board because he is quite a powerful individual from the political standpoint of Bangladesh. And there are a lot of people who are actually more deserving of that job.

So, tell me how the president of the Bangladesh cricket board gets caught red-handed gambling in casinos and doesn’t get any action taken against him, on the other hand, Shakib Al Hasan is just in contact with a gambler and that got him banned for one year?  Undecided

Do you have any source of this news? If it is true then this is hypocrisy on the Bangladesh board's part. Political influence and powerful politicians were once a big problem with BCCI and it took a lot of effort to get those politicians and influencers out of the board. If Bangladesh cricket needs to survive then they need to get such individuals removed from their boards.

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August 14, 2022, 10:58:38 PM
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Shakib is a good cricketer, but money matters alot. His activities is a true example for the same. In the past several issues have arisen with players from different countries prioritising franchise cricket even when there is matches scheduled for their country. Nowadays after proper agreement only players were allowed to participate.

Shakib, without any argument is the best player Bangladesh ever produced. Despite that, the BCB has treated him with disdain. I don't want to put all the blame on one side, but BCB overstepped their boundary when they prevented him from participating in franchise leagues multiple times. And whether to participate in a franchise league or not should be left to the player. Because after all they need to earn money when they are in their peak. The board can't force a player to cancel a league contract, unless it is a last resort step.
Although Shakib Al Hasan is a famous player of Bangladesh but it is true that he is not given that respect. Shakib Al Hasan is another one of the few cricketers who are there now. BCB pressure on him? In fact, it is an insult to Shakib Al Hasan because whether the match is played or not is entirely the responsibility of the players. franchise Shakib Al Hasan was not quite ready to play the match but BCB put a lot of pressure on him.
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August 14, 2022, 11:04:50 PM
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And yes Shakib al Hassan got a lot of money from IPL. But his performance was not very good in the IPL, to be honest. Yes I agree that he did neglect his international duties at times because of IPL.
There are some countries like Australia, England or New Zealand any of these countries expressing interest in playing a franchise team keeping the national game? Of course not. But in Shakib's case it seems to be the complete opposite. Many people in Bangladesh have made such comments. Because of this, BCB has sometimes warned him through letters. So he should focus on the domestic game.
Between Australia, England and South Africa, the players are quite restrained. Moreover, the cricket management team is always free from politics but the Bangladesh Cricket Board is completely dominated and exploited by a particular group. Here only players affiliated with politicians can do whatever they want. Especially if Shakib Al Hasan is going to catch Bangladesh, the backbone player should he involve himself with casino gambling.
Here is a point that raises questions in many spectators. Why did Shakib sign a contract with Betwinner despite knowing everything? The simple answer is that he signed a contract with Betwinner's news channel. He thought it would be legal and won't bother him at all. But the situation is completely opposite. So he had to withdraw the contract. Maybe if he had a good relationship with the board he would have got this permission.
Although there was a secret deal with Shakib Al Hasan bat winners but that was on the course. Because all of them had reached the victim of corruption due to which they removed the corruption through any agreement? But they were not successful in its argument that bye leaked the secret information to any of them. But for this Shakibul Hasan has to get some punishment due to which he is in cricket for a long time Cricket was not related.
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August 14, 2022, 11:51:26 PM
Last edit: August 15, 2022, 12:11:02 AM by n0ne
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And yes Shakib al Hassan got a lot of money from IPL. But his performance was not very good in the IPL, to be honest. Yes I agree that he did neglect his international duties at times because of IPL.
There are some countries like Australia, England or New Zealand any of these countries expressing interest in playing a franchise team keeping the national game? Of course not. But in Shakib's case it seems to be the complete opposite. Many people in Bangladesh have made such comments. Because of this, BCB has sometimes warned him through letters. So he should focus on the domestic game.
Between Australia, England and South Africa, the players are quite restrained. Moreover, the cricket management team is always free from politics but the Bangladesh Cricket Board is completely dominated and exploited by a particular group. Here only players affiliated with politicians can do whatever they want. Especially if Shakib Al Hasan is going to catch Bangladesh, the backbone player should he involve himself with casino gambling.
Here is a point that raises questions in many spectators. Why did Shakib sign a contract with Betwinner despite knowing everything? The simple answer is that he signed a contract with Betwinner's news channel. He thought it would be legal and won't bother him at all. But the situation is completely opposite. So he had to withdraw the contract. Maybe if he had a good relationship with the board he would have got this permission.
That's true, if he had got good relationship with the Bangladesh cricket board, now things could've gone in a smooth manner without controversies. He used to get into controversy often. This isn't the first time. During the IPL match Hasim Amla during his contract said he won't carry the ad promoting alcohol in his jersey, because his religion doesn't encourage it. Here things have taken place in the opposite way. It is all about money that turns players.

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August 15, 2022, 04:45:47 AM
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Between Australia, England and South Africa, the players are quite restrained. Moreover, the cricket management team is always free from politics but the Bangladesh Cricket Board is completely dominated and exploited by a particular group. Here only players affiliated with politicians can do whatever they want. Especially if Shakib Al Hasan is going to catch Bangladesh, the backbone player should he involve himself with casino gambling.
Here is a point that raises questions in many spectators. Why did Shakib sign a contract with Betwinner despite knowing everything? The simple answer is that he signed a contract with Betwinner's news channel. He thought it would be legal and won't bother him at all. But the situation is completely opposite. So he had to withdraw the contract. Maybe if he had a good relationship with the board he would have got this permission.
That's true, if he had got good relationship with the Bangladesh cricket board, now things could've gone in a smooth manner without controversies. He used to get into controversy often. This isn't the first time. During the IPL match Hasim Amla during his contract said he won't carry the ad promoting alcohol in his jersey, because his religion doesn't encourage it. Here things have taken place in the opposite way. It is all about money that turns players.

Many Bangladeshi players' careers have been destroyed by the Bangladesh cricket board. Did you know the Bangladesh cricket board even told news channels Bangladesh to make negative news about Mashrafe Mortaza when he did not have a successful performance in the last World Cup?

But the news channels had respect for Mashrafe Mortaza. So they denied making any news like that even though they had to be offered a lot of money for that. And it is true that Shakib Al Hasan didn’t think it was illegal. And it was obviously possible that if he had a favorable relationship with the cricket board he could have easily gotten away with this without any hassle.

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August 15, 2022, 04:56:03 AM
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Do you have any source of this news? If it is true then this is hypocrisy on the Bangladesh board's part. Political influence and powerful politicians were once a big problem with BCCI and it took a lot of effort to get those politicians and influencers out of the board. If Bangladesh cricket needs to survive then they need to get such individuals removed from their boards.


https://youtube.com/shorts/t_WDN2UyEK8

I think this should be good enough proof. If I remember correctly this happened at the last World Cup that was organized.
And he is still the president of the Bangladesh cricket board. The video can be found everywhere on the internet & social media.
So, why doesn’t he get banned when he was caught red-handed and why does Shakib Al Hasan get banned just for having connections with a bookie?

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August 15, 2022, 05:00:19 AM
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That's true, if he had got good relationship with the Bangladesh cricket board, now things could've gone in a smooth manner without controversies. He used to get into controversy often. This isn't the first time. During the IPL match Hasim Amla during his contract said he won't carry the ad promoting alcohol in his jersey, because his religion doesn't encourage it. Here things have taken place in the opposite way. It is all about money that turns players.
At present, the trend of players is moving away from the moral position. As a result of which cricketers do not hesitate to get involved in any unethical activities. But there are still some players who sacrifice a lot to keep their integrity. Hashim Amla is one of them.

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August 15, 2022, 08:06:36 AM
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That's true, if he had got good relationship with the Bangladesh cricket board, now things could've gone in a smooth manner without controversies. He used to get into controversy often. This isn't the first time. During the IPL match Hasim Amla during his contract said he won't carry the ad promoting alcohol in his jersey, because his religion doesn't encourage it. Here things have taken place in the opposite way. It is all about money that turns players.
At present, the trend of players is moving away from the moral position. As a result of which cricketers do not hesitate to get involved in any unethical activities. But there are still some players who sacrifice a lot to keep their integrity. Hashim Amla is one of them.

It is no secret that Hashim Amla is a devout Muslim. It is always his religion that comes first for him. In my memory, I still remember the celebration of the World Cup, or even any celebration that involved England opening up a champagne bottle during the World Cup, Hashim Amla is never included in that celebration because he doesn’t want to. As far as he is concerned, he does not want any part of alcohol in his life so he can do anything that he wants to.

In addition to that, he is also ready to take the punishment for it if necessary. In this day and age where people are willing to do anything for money, it is actually unbelievable to see someone who is willing to do such a thing in today's society.

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August 15, 2022, 08:33:38 AM
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https://youtube.com/shorts/t_WDN2UyEK8

I think this should be good enough proof. If I remember correctly this happened at the last World Cup that was organized.
And he is still the president of the Bangladesh cricket board. The video can be found everywhere on the internet & social media.
So, why doesn’t he get banned when he was caught red-handed and why does Shakib Al Hasan get banned just for having connections with a bookie?

This is complete hypocrisy on BCB's part. They should have taken disciplinary action against this individual. He should be stripped from his position and further action depending on the law of Bangladesh should be taken. Since they have not taken any action against this guy which proves the amount of indiscipline and corruption prevails within the board. When the board itself is so corrupt then how will the Bangladesh team play effectively?

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August 15, 2022, 11:14:50 AM
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https://youtube.com/shorts/t_WDN2UyEK8
I think this should be good enough proof. If I remember correctly this happened at the last World Cup that was organized.
And he is still the president of the Bangladesh cricket board. The video can be found everywhere on the internet & social media.
So, why doesn’t he get banned when he was caught red-handed and why does Shakib Al Hasan get banned just for having connections with a bookie?

This is complete hypocrisy on BCB's part. They should have taken disciplinary action against this individual. He should be stripped from his position and further action depending on the law of Bangladesh should be taken. Since they have not taken any action against this guy which proves the amount of indiscipline and corruption prevails within the board. When the board itself is so corrupt then how will the Bangladesh team play effectively?

There are also a lot of problems with regard to the selection of players that need to be addressed. There is little chance for a player to get a lot of chances without the help of political power or nepotism unless he is a really talented individual. Furthermore, I am quite sure that the BCB president Nazmul Hasan, who was seen gambling in this video, was actually looking for Shakib Al Hasan to be banned. Otherwise, they couldn’t have stripped Mashrafe from the captaincy of the Bangladesh cricket team. People will say that I am just guessing. Having watched everything, I would say this is an educated guess based on what I have seen so far.

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August 15, 2022, 11:20:23 AM
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Many Bangladeshi players' careers have been destroyed by the Bangladesh cricket board. Did you know the Bangladesh cricket board even told news channels Bangladesh to make negative news about Mashrafe Mortaza when he did not have a successful performance in the last World Cup?

But the news channels had respect for Mashrafe Mortaza. So they denied making any news like that even though they had to be offered a lot of money for that. And it is true that Shakib Al Hasan didn’t think it was illegal. And it was obviously possible that if he had a favorable relationship with the cricket board he could have easily gotten away with this without any hassle.
As many already mention corruption into BCB, and it's all happening just because of political influence so if they want to go into good shape then surely foremost they need to do some good changes in management which is surely going to bring good development for them and professional peoples can understand all difficulties and requirements of players related to these sports is also very important for the better performance and improvement in quality.

But, right now sadly nothing is positive happening, and they are allowing these corrupt politicians to play with careers of these good and talented players just for their sack with Bangladesh is going good in development and right now they can bring good investment in sports as well surely foremost they need much better management which is indeed otherwise this all is going down and out.

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August 15, 2022, 07:26:44 PM
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As many already mention corruption into BCB, and it's all happening just because of political influence so if they want to go into good shape then surely foremost they need to do some good changes in management which is surely going to bring good development for them and professional peoples can understand all difficulties and requirements of players related to these sports is also very important for the better performance and improvement in quality.

But, right now sadly nothing is positive happening, and they are allowing these corrupt politicians to play with careers of these good and talented players just for their sack with Bangladesh is going good in development and right now they can bring good investment in sports as well surely foremost they need much better management which is indeed otherwise this all is going down and out.

Unless the personnel in BCB changes very quickly the situation of Bangladesh cricket is not going to get better. I don't think that is going to happen very soon either. Corruption and nepotism have caused a lot of problems for Bangladesh cricket till now. And it is going to cause more problems for Bangladesh going forward in the future. And trust me the future does not look good for Bangladesh in cricket.
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As many already mention corruption into BCB, and it's all happening just because of political influence so if they want to go into good shape then surely foremost they need to do some good changes in management which is surely going to bring good development for them and professional peoples can understand all difficulties and requirements of players related to these sports is also very important for the better performance and improvement in quality.

But, right now sadly nothing is positive happening, and they are allowing these corrupt politicians to play with careers of these good and talented players just for their sack with Bangladesh is going good in development and right now they can bring good investment in sports as well surely foremost they need much better management which is indeed otherwise this all is going down and out.
Unless the personnel in BCB changes very quickly the situation of Bangladesh cricket is not going to get better. I don't think that is going to happen very soon either. Corruption and nepotism have caused a lot of problems for Bangladesh cricket till now. And it is going to cause more problems for Bangladesh going forward in the future. And trust me the future does not look good for Bangladesh in cricket.

BCB president has been holding this post for a long time. But there is no progress without the degradation of the party. The team is not finding any new talented players. So it needs to be removed quickly. He is not able to take any effective steps for the development of cricket in Bangladesh.

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BCB president has been holding this post for a long time. But there is no progress without the degradation of the party. The team is not finding any new talented players. So it needs to be removed quickly. He is not able to take any effective steps for the development of cricket in Bangladesh.

You need to remember that in all the South Asian countries, the cricket boards are either directly or indirectly controlled by the regime. Even in case of the BCCI, Jay Shah (Secretary) and Anurag Thakur are linked to the ruling party. In case of Bangladesh, the ruling party (Sheikh Hasina's Awami League) has been in power since 2009 and since then the BCB has been under the control of individuals who have links with that party. Even the ICC is helpless here. They can't do anything without the permission from the regime.

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BCB president has been holding this post for a long time. But there is no progress without the degradation of the party. The team is not finding any new talented players. So it needs to be removed quickly. He is not able to take any effective steps for the development of cricket in Bangladesh.
You need to remember that in all the South Asian countries, the cricket boards are either directly or indirectly controlled by the regime. Even in case of the BCCI, Jay Shah (Secretary) and Anurag Thakur are linked to the ruling party. In case of Bangladesh, the ruling party (Sheikh Hasina's Awami League) has been in power since 2009 and since then the BCB has been under the control of individuals who have links with that party. Even the ICC is helpless here. They can't do anything without the permission from the regime.

Political interference in cricket is very serious. If it is done by unqualified persons. I don't know if BCB president Papon played cricket. Surely someone related to cricket should have been given the presidency. We have seen Zimbabwe's party reduced to rubble after political interference. Bangladesh team is going to be the same? I don't see any talented youngsters for the Bangladesh squad when the senior players retire.

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