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[ilovealtcoins]

India won the ODI match between Zimbabwe vs India by 10 wickets. At the beginning of the message, Zimbabwe went into bat and collected 159 runs in 40.3 overs. Going into bat with a target of 190 runs, the Indian team very comfortably collected 192 runs without a wicket The two openers have scored almost equal runs in this mess. But Shubham Gill scored 82 runs off 72 balls and Shikar Dewan scored 81 runs off 193 balls. Due to their extraordinary batting skills, they managed to win this match without a wicket.

A target of 190 runs was not too difficult for India, competitive fielding against a world class cricket team like India against a weak team like Zimbabwe to win by so few runs.It was indeed a difficult thing to do. Shikhar Dhawan and Shubman Gill in particular ended the game with 81 and 82 runs respectively in just 30 overs. In this regard, I did not see Zimbabwe being affected very hard.

This series is expected to be completely one-sided. Indian team is not stupid like Bangladesh. They will win all the matches in the series. And in every match we will see the dominance of Indian players. From the beginning of the innings, the Zimbabwean batsmen failed to resist the Indian bowlers. If the Zimbabwean batsmen bat well in the upcoming matches, they can expect a competitive match.

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[Sithara007]

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Now ICC needs to bring some better package for these associate countries and give them better funds as well for improving quality and having better infrastructure which help their domestic setup.

Funding can help only to certain extent. For starters, Zimbabwe gets 50 times the amount that is allocated to Netherlands ($10 million per year for Zimbabwe, $200K for Netherlands). Despite the funding difference, at this point Netherlands looks stronger than Zimbabwe. And let's remember the fact that Netherlands was playing without 7 of their regular players (who are in England, participating in county cricket). If these players were available, then Netherlands could have given tough challenge to Pakistan.

[BobK71]

I feel India's series with Zimbabwe would be entirely one-sided after watching the match yesterday. India ruled the game from the beginning. Indian bowlers destroyed Zimbabwe's batting, non of the batters were able to contribute except Regis Chakabva who I thought could have reached his half-century but unfortunately, he got bowled out by Axar Patel. I am not hoping for anything incredible from the Zimbabwes side in the next two matches.  

Zimbabwe collected very low score against India where I think there is no way they will be able to win against India. Zimbabwe wanted to go ahead with Sikandar Raza but he fail to do that. It can be said that he had to stop at the beginning. On the other Chakabva collected 35 runs and total they collected 189. So all the matches are highly likely to be one-sided in this series.

[BALIK]

I feel India's series with Zimbabwe would be entirely one-sided after watching the match yesterday. India ruled the game from the beginning. Indian bowlers destroyed Zimbabwe's batting, non of the batters were able to contribute except Regis Chakabva who I thought could have reached his half-century but unfortunately, he got bowled out by Axar Patel. I am not hoping for anything incredible from the Zimbabwes side in the next two matches.  

Zimbabwe collected very low score against India where I think there is no way they will be able to win against India. Zimbabwe wanted to go ahead with Sikandar Raza but he fail to do that. It can be said that he had to stop at the beginning. On the other Chakabva collected 35 runs and total they collected 189. So all the matches are highly likely to be one-sided in this series.

Yes, I think the whole series between India and Zimbabwe is going to be one-sided because obviously, Zimbabwe is no match for a team like India. In the last match against India, Zimbabwe couldn't even do anything.

2/3 of the players in Zimbabwe started, but they could not continue. And obviously, there was no meaningful partnership between them. The target was very easy for India to chase down. But I have to say it was impressive to see India not even losing one wicket. In this series, I believe India will win every match, even if one or two are not one-sided. I don't believe that Zimbabwe will be able to beat India.

[kro55]

I feel India's series with Zimbabwe would be entirely one-sided after watching the match yesterday. India ruled the game from the beginning. Indian bowlers destroyed Zimbabwe's batting, non of the batters were able to contribute except Regis Chakabva who I thought could have reached his half-century but unfortunately, he got bowled out by Axar Patel. I am not hoping for anything incredible from the Zimbabwes side in the next two matches.  

Zimbabwe collected very low score against India where I think there is no way they will be able to win against India. Zimbabwe wanted to go ahead with Sikandar Raza but he fail to do that. It can be said that he had to stop at the beginning. On the other Chakabva collected 35 runs and total they collected 189. So all the matches are highly likely to be one-sided in this series.

The performance of Zimbabwe's batsmen is not regular. Despite winning two series against Bangladesh, their top order could not play well. All the matches were won because of Sikandar Raza and Chakabva's excellent performances. It is impossible to play consistently well depending on the performance of only 2 batsmen. If Zimbabwe's top order fails to play well in the next match too, then India will win the second ODI one-sidedly.

[posi]

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Now ICC needs to bring some better package for these associate countries and give them better funds as well for improving quality and having better infrastructure which help their domestic setup.

Funding can help only to certain extent. For starters, Zimbabwe gets 50 times the amount that is allocated to Netherlands ($10 million per year for Zimbabwe, $200K for Netherlands). Despite the funding difference, at this point Netherlands looks stronger than Zimbabwe. And let's remember the fact that Netherlands was playing without 7 of their regular players (who are in England, participating in county cricket). If these players were available, then Netherlands could have given tough challenge to Pakistan.

Funding is not the only thing that will help a team. I think we all know that Zimbabwe has certain problems with the cricket board. And a few months back I also heard that Zimbabwe does not currently have a proper cricket board. I don't know if that is still the case. But obviously, that does not clarify how a team like Zimbabwe is not even performing at the level of a team like the Netherlands. But I have to say the associate countries could really use the funding. While we are saying that funding isn't everything, it is also essential for the improvement of any cricket team.

[Sithara007]

The performance of Zimbabwe's batsmen is not regular. Despite winning two series against Bangladesh, their top order could not play well. All the matches were won because of Sikandar Raza and Chakabva's excellent performances. It is impossible to play consistently well depending on the performance of only 2 batsmen. If Zimbabwe's top order fails to play well in the next match too, then India will win the second ODI one-sidedly.

Zimbabwe do have an issue with retaining players. They have lost some of their most promising young players in the last few years to politics and corruption. It is amazing that this country still produces such promising players, despite all the political upheaval and incompetent authorities. They have a very small player pool as well. But after a while, some of the players get dejected and move on to other countries such as England. Only a few, such as Raza, Ervine and Williams have stayed loyal to their country.

[laurenB7742]

Alhamdulliah Pakistan won the match by the 7 Wickets and as always. M.Rizwan the True Pakistani Lion made itso easy by a tremendous innings of 69 Runs. Expectations cames true here there was Poor Start by Netherlands,on the Batting end but they tried their best on Bowling startup but Results goes with good performance of Pakistani Batsman.

With Netherlands too similar situation happened. Netherlands lost the third wicket at 8 runs. I thought the innings will go for atleast 250+ runs, but the early fall of wickets changed the match. Pakistan lost its second wicket at 11 runs. The early wickets made the team struggle a little, but Babar Azam, Rizwan and Salman made it steady and won the match comfortable.

I also expected the Netherlands to be able to collect as big as the first innings. But they lost all the wickets in just 186 runs. Pakistani bowlers bowled brilliantly. Haris Rouf took 3 wickets for just 16 runs. Despite the poor batting of the two Pakistani openers, Pakistan managed to win easily with the help of Babar Azam and Rizwan's responsible batting as usual.

[JSRAW]

Shubham Gill must be learning a new reality in international cricket that how hard to get his first international ton.

In 17 intl matches across 2 formats (test-odi) he came close to magic figure of 100 3 times but poor guy can't break the curse. Got out on 91 at Gabba. Got stuck at 98 when rain ruined his party against Windies and against Zim well there wasn't much to chase.

[Hamza2424]

Alhamdulliah Pakistan won the match by the 7 Wickets and as always. M.Rizwan the True Pakistani Lion made itso easy by a tremendous innings of 69 Runs. Expectations cames true here there was Poor Start by Netherlands,on the Batting end but they tried their best on Bowling startup but Results goes with good performance of Pakistani Batsman.

With Netherlands too similar situation happened. Netherlands lost the third wicket at 8 runs. I thought the innings will go for atleast 250+ runs, but the early fall of wickets changed the match. Pakistan lost its second wicket at 11 runs. The early wickets made the team struggle a little, but Babar Azam, Rizwan and Salman made it steady and won the match comfortable.

I also expected the Netherlands to be able to collect as big as the first innings. But they lost all the wickets in just 186 runs. Pakistani bowlers bowled brilliantly. Haris Rouf took 3 wickets for just 16 runs. Despite the poor batting of the two Pakistani openers, Pakistan managed to win easily with the help of Babar Azam and Rizwan's responsible batting as usual.

Thats a fact that opening batting order plays an important role in Building up the match. But unfortunately both teams disappointed by their opening order. As fast team losses its Opening order it Builds a Heavy pressure on Bowling and Batting both side of the team if they are Choosing Bat first. So lets hope for Good performance in the next matches.

[Sithara007]

Shubham Gill must be learning a new reality in international cricket that how hard to get his first international ton.

In 17 intl matches across 2 formats (test-odi) he came close to magic figure of 100 3 times but poor guy can't break the curse. Got out on 91 at Gabba. Got stuck at 98 when rain ruined his party against Windies and against Zim well there wasn't much to chase.

Well.. at least he got a chance to bat. Sanju Samson fans are furious that he didn't got an opportunity to showcase his batting skills. Zimbabwe seems to be the weakest team in the ODI super league, and they seems to be in a worse condition when compared to both Ireland and Netherlands. In case of the Dutch, at least they have the excuse that most of their regular players are away for county cricket (and despite that they gave a good fight against Pakistan in the first ODI). Zimbabwe doesn't have any such excuse. Their performance was pathetic.

[tomos81]

Shubham Gill must be learning a new reality in international cricket that how hard to get his first international ton.

In 17 intl matches across 2 formats (test-odi) he came close to magic figure of 100 3 times but poor guy can't break the curse. Got out on 91 at Gabba. Got stuck at 98 when rain ruined his party against Windies and against Zim well there wasn't much to chase.

Well.. at least he got a chance to bat. Sanju Samson fans are furious that he didn't got an opportunity to showcase his batting skills. Zimbabwe seems to be the weakest team in the ODI super league, and they seems to be in a worse condition when compared to both Ireland and Netherlands. In case of the Dutch, at least they have the excuse that most of their regular players are away for county cricket (and despite that they gave a good fight against Pakistan in the first ODI). Zimbabwe doesn't have any such excuse. Their performance was pathetic.

In the first ODI against Zimbabwe, India won the match by a wicket The opening batted so well that India won the match against Zimbabwe by 10 wickets without the fall of any wicket. However, in the second match against India, Zimbabwe may plan and enter the field. However, there are several batsmen for India who have not been able to bat against Zimbabwe so far One of them could be Sanju Samsung. I think he will do well for the team if he gets a chance to bat against Zimbabwe.

[S A KHAIR]

Shubham Gill must be learning a new reality in international cricket that how hard to get his first international ton.
In 17 intl matches across 2 formats (test-odi) he came close to magic figure of 100 3 times but poor guy can't break the curse. Got out on 91 at Gabba. Got stuck at 98 when rain ruined his party against Windies and against Zim well there wasn't much to chase.

Well.. at least he got a chance to bat. Sanju Samson fans are furious that he didn't got an opportunity to showcase his batting skills. Zimbabwe seems to be the weakest team in the ODI super league, and they seems to be in a worse condition when compared to both Ireland and Netherlands. In case of the Dutch, at least they have the excuse that most of their regular players are away for county cricket (and despite that they gave a good fight against Pakistan in the first ODI). Zimbabwe doesn't have any such excuse. Their performance was pathetic.

In the first ODI against Zimbabwe, India won the match by a wicket The opening batted so well that India won the match against Zimbabwe by 10 wickets without the fall of any wicket. However, in the second match against India, Zimbabwe may plan and enter the field. However, there are several batsmen for India who have not been able to bat against Zimbabwe so far One of them could be Sanju Samsung. I think he will do well for the team if he gets a chance to bat against Zimbabwe.

Zimbabwe needed to score at least 300 runs to win against India. Because, India may be playing with their second-tier team, but they still have a lot of talented batsmen on the team. On the other hand, the Zimbabwean team has very few experienced batsmen. And so it is very difficult for Zimbabwe to give a target of big runs against India.

[coinerer]

Shubham Gill must be learning a new reality in international cricket that how hard to get his first international ton.

In 17 intl matches across 2 formats (test-odi) he came close to magic figure of 100 3 times but poor guy can't break the curse. Got out on 91 at Gabba. Got stuck at 98 when rain ruined his party against Windies and against Zim well there wasn't much to chase.

Well.. at least he got a chance to bat. Sanju Samson fans are furious that he didn't got an opportunity to showcase his batting skills. Zimbabwe seems to be the weakest team in the ODI super league, and they seems to be in a worse condition when compared to both Ireland and Netherlands. In case of the Dutch, at least they have the excuse that most of their regular players are away for county cricket (and despite that they gave a good fight against Pakistan in the first ODI). Zimbabwe doesn't have any such excuse. Their performance was pathetic.

In the first ODI against Zimbabwe, India won the match by a wicket The opening batted so well that India won the match against Zimbabwe by 10 wickets without the fall of any wicket. However, in the second match against India, Zimbabwe may plan and enter the field. However, there are several batsmen for India who have not been able to bat against Zimbabwe so far One of them could be Sanju Samsung. I think he will do well for the team if he gets a chance to bat against Zimbabwe.

Tomorrow there is another game between India and Zimbabwe. In the last match, India won without losing any wicket due to Zimbabwe's low scoring. Can Zimbabwe build any defense against India in this series? Everyone knows what the cricket community is thinking. If Zimbabwe can score big then their chances will increase a bit. It is not impossible but no one dare to think about winning the match.

[Xeon]

Second ODI between West Indies vs New Zealand in progress after winning toss West indies opt for bowing and now tight screws around New Zealand with their impressive bowling specially Holder is hero for them in first session of this second ODI. New Zealand is under pressure after losing first match badly now losing their regular captain Kane Williamson against because of injury right now struggling badly with just 95/3 in 26 overs after very poor start as they lost their first three wickets for just 31 runs.

Now Finn Allen and Daryl Mitchell trying to fight back as they already have good partnership of 64 runs with Finn Allen is playing at 52 and Daryl Mitchell is at 32 these both needs to stay at crease for 15 more overs if they want to set a good target for home team which is already in good confident after winning first ODI.

[teosanru]

Shubham Gill must be learning a new reality in international cricket that how hard to get his first international ton.

In 17 intl matches across 2 formats (test-odi) he came close to magic figure of 100 3 times but poor guy can't break the curse. Got out on 91 at Gabba. Got stuck at 98 when rain ruined his party against Windies and against Zim well there wasn't much to chase.

Well.. at least he got a chance to bat. Sanju Samson fans are furious that he didn't got an opportunity to showcase his batting skills. Zimbabwe seems to be the weakest team in the ODI super league, and they seems to be in a worse condition when compared to both Ireland and Netherlands. In case of the Dutch, at least they have the excuse that most of their regular players are away for county cricket (and despite that they gave a good fight against Pakistan in the first ODI). Zimbabwe doesn't have any such excuse. Their performance was pathetic.

In the first ODI against Zimbabwe, India won the match by a wicket The opening batted so well that India won the match against Zimbabwe by 10 wickets without the fall of any wicket. However, in the second match against India, Zimbabwe may plan and enter the field. However, there are several batsmen for India who have not been able to bat against Zimbabwe so far One of them could be Sanju Samsung. I think he will do well for the team if he gets a chance to bat against Zimbabwe.

Tomorrow there is another game between India and Zimbabwe. In the last match, India won without losing any wicket due to Zimbabwe's low scoring. Can Zimbabwe build any defense against India in this series? Everyone knows what the cricket community is thinking. If Zimbabwe can score big then their chances will increase a bit. It is not impossible but no one dare to think about winning the match.

I think Zimbabwe's batting is still something that they can try to rely on so a better preposition is that they try to bowl first and let India score the total and then try to chase it with their strength, I know if India's score crosses a certain mark it will be impossible for them to even bat full 50 overs it will be so much pressure. But it's overall a good experience for Zimbabwe to play against a big team and see how pressure should be handled and how to play your cards properly in big matches and try to play on your strengths. After batting first I think it's going to be the same fate for them as what happened in the first match.

[Hamza2424]

Second ODI between West Indies vs New Zealand in progress after winning toss West indies opt for bowing and now tight screws around New Zealand with their impressive bowling specially Holder is hero for them in first session of this second ODI. New Zealand is under pressure after losing first match badly now losing their regular captain Kane Williamson against because of injury right now struggling badly with just 95/3 in 26 overs after very poor start as they lost their first three wickets for just 31 runs.

Now Finn Allen and Daryl Mitchell trying to fight back as they already have good partnership of 64 runs with Finn Allen is playing at 52 and Daryl Mitchell is at 32 these both needs to stay at crease for 15 more overs if they want to set a good target for home team which is already in good confident after winning first ODI.

Current Update is 132 Runs made by NZ on the loss of 4 Top Wickets and the 32nd over ongoing looking like NZ i facing heavy pressure from the WI Bowling side. But FH Allen seems in form 77 Unstoppable Runs on 91 Bowls. If he made his 100 then match seems to be interesting as NZ also hold some decent Bowlers against top batting order of the WI. It will be interesting to how WI is going to stop NZ on a low total score for now I'm pretty sure they can do it easy.

[eaLiTy]

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 But FH Allen seems in form 77 Unstoppable Runs on 91 Bowls. If he made his 100 then match seems to be interesting as NZ also hold some decent Bowlers against top batting order of the WI. It will be interesting to how WI is going to stop NZ on a low total score for now I'm pretty sure they can do it easy.

Finn Allen is still in the crease and it looks like he will score his maiden century in this match as he is on 94 right now and after a terrible start, New Zealand is building up their innings and hopefully they will reach a respectable score.

It is time for New Zealand to think about a new opener than the out of form Martin Guptill, i expected him to regain his form when he faced teams like Ireland, Scotland and Netherlands and he failed to score any big runs even against smaller nations.

[Vaskiy]

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 But FH Allen seems in form 77 Unstoppable Runs on 91 Bowls. If he made his 100 then match seems to be interesting as NZ also hold some decent Bowlers against top batting order of the WI. It will be interesting to how WI is going to stop NZ on a low total score for now I'm pretty sure they can do it easy.

Finn Allen is still in the crease and it looks like he will score his maiden century in this match as he is on 94 right now and after a terrible start, New Zealand is building up their innings and hopefully they will reach a respectable score.

It is time for New Zealand to think about a new opener than the out of form Martin Guptill, i expected him to regain his form when he faced teams like Ireland, Scotland and Netherlands and he failed to score any big runs even against smaller nations.

Finn Allen lost his wicket at 96 runs to Jason Holder. Finally New Zealand ended its batting with 212 runs losing every wicket at 48.2 overs. The performance from New Zealand isn't to the expectation. West Indies have started batting. West Indies have lost the wicket of Kyle Mayers, and reached 8 runs in 3 overs. It looks like West Indies playing slow game to avoid further fall of wickets.

[Swordsoffreedom]

Finn Allen lost his wicket at 96 runs to Jason Holder. Finally New Zealand ended its batting with 212 runs losing every wicket at 48.2 overs. The performance from New Zealand isn't to the expectation. West Indies have started batting. West Indies have lost the wicket of Kyle Mayers, and reached 8 runs in 3 overs. It looks like West Indies playing slow game to avoid further fall of wickets.

West Indies managed to win the first ODI match quite well. Today, New Zealand set a target of just 213 runs. Finn Allen scored 96 runs and Daryl Mitchell scored 46 runs. Santner was unbeaten on 26 runs. Besides, all the other batsmen in the team have batted very badly. If West Indies don't lose wickets very quickly then they can win this match very easily. The West Indies players' only aim should be to survive at the crease.