2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[Maslate]

Anyone here thinking Magnolia will take game 1?

The betting line is already available now.
https://sportsbet.io/sports/basketball/philippines/pba-philippine-cup/matches

Magnolia is +2.5 and ML is 2.18.

Nice odds for Magnolia right? I love to read your thoughts regarding this before playing some bet. 

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[Hypnosis00]

Anyone here thinking Magnolia will take game 1?

The betting line is already available now.
https://sportsbet.io/sports/basketball/philippines/pba-philippine-cup/matches

Magnolia is +2.5 and ML is 2.18.

Nice odds for Magnolia right? I love to read your thoughts regarding this before playing some bet. 

Up to +3.5 now, I like TNT but I like the odds of Magnolia, I don't think they'll be dominated here as Magnolia is also a good team that is ready to compete with the TNT. So, I guess I will take ML and +3.5, and of course, I like to bet on some extra special odds offered by my bookie.

[Maslate]

Anyone here thinking Magnolia will take game 1?

The betting line is already available now.
https://sportsbet.io/sports/basketball/philippines/pba-philippine-cup/matches

Magnolia is +2.5 and ML is 2.18.

Nice odds for Magnolia right? I love to read your thoughts regarding this before playing some bet. 

Up to +3.5 now, I like TNT but I like the odds of Magnolia, I don't think they'll be dominated here as Magnolia is also a good team that is ready to compete with the TNT. So, I guess I will take ML and +3.5, and of course, I like to bet on some extra special odds offered by my bookie.

I don't know what's happening but it seems like the handicap is going up, actually, as of this writing, it's already +4.5 for Magnolia Hotspots. Maybe let's be more careful with this line movement as probably one of the players of Magnolia will not be able to play, it's just my speculation but it's better to just put the bet on live.

[Kasabus]

Anyone here thinking Magnolia will take game 1?

The betting line is already available now.
https://sportsbet.io/sports/basketball/philippines/pba-philippine-cup/matches

Magnolia is +2.5 and ML is 2.18.

Nice odds for Magnolia right? I love to read your thoughts regarding this before playing some bet. 

Up to +3.5 now, I like TNT but I like the odds of Magnolia, I don't think they'll be dominated here as Magnolia is also a good team that is ready to compete with the TNT. So, I guess I will take ML and +3.5, and of course, I like to bet on some extra special odds offered by my bookie.

I don't know what's happening but it seems like the handicap is going up, actually, as of this writing, it's already +4.5 for Magnolia Hotspots. Maybe let's be more careful with this line movement as probably one of the players of Magnolia will not be able to play, it's just my speculation but it's better to just put the bet on live.

There's no news yet, we can follow https://web.facebook.com/OneSportsPHL for the news and their official website. The line movement is just probably because of the fact that TNT is the better team, they beat the SMB which are dominating in the All Filipino cup, so people expect them to win against the Magnolia Hotshots.

[Kelvinid]

34-53 in favor of TNT, that's the halftime score.

Probably that's the reason why the handicap keeps rising, but I'm hoping that Magnolia will be able to have a big run in the 3rd quarter.

ML odds - Magnolia 9,75 and spread is +16.5. Good luck, choose your pick now. 

[bisdak40]

34-53 in favor of TNT, that's the halftime score.

Probably that's the reason why the handicap keeps rising, but I'm hoping that Magnolia will be able to have a big run in the 3rd quarter.

ML odds - Magnolia 9,75 and spread is +16.5. Good luck, choose your pick now. 

With the looks of it, I think this game belongs to TNT, and forcing to bet for Magnolia might not be good for now.

I did really think that this would be a close game but turns out to be a blown-out one.

Good thing that I have not bet for this game 1  , really have a hard time predicting who will win but I'm locked on betting for Magnolia on game 2.

[Hypnosis00]

34-53 in favor of TNT, that's the halftime score.

Probably that's the reason why the handicap keeps rising, but I'm hoping that Magnolia will be able to have a big run in the 3rd quarter.

ML odds - Magnolia 9,75 and spread is +16.5. Good luck, choose your pick now. 

With the looks of it, I think this game belongs to TNT, and forcing to bet for Magnolia might not be good for now.

I did really think that this would be a close game but turns out to be a blown-out one.

I bet on the 3rd quarter only, I got Magnolia -2.5 for 3rd quarter.
I'm thinking maybe they need to have to play strong in the 3rd quarter to bring the lead of the TNT into single digit only in the 4th quarter.

Yes, it's also a risky bet but I will take the risk here.

Good thing that I have not bet for this game 1  , really have a hard time predicting who will win but I'm locked on betting for Magnolia on game 2.

Good for you, that's luck!, hehe.. I got Magnolia in game 2 too.

[Vaculin]

34-53 in favor of TNT, that's the halftime score.

Probably that's the reason why the handicap keeps rising, but I'm hoping that Magnolia will be able to have a big run in the 3rd quarter.

ML odds - Magnolia 9,75 and spread is +16.5. Good luck, choose your pick now. 

With the looks of it, I think this game belongs to TNT, and forcing to bet for Magnolia might not be good for now.

I did really think that this would be a close game but turns out to be a blown-out one.

I bet on the 3rd quarter only, I got Magnolia -2.5 for 3rd quarter.
I'm thinking maybe they need to have to play strong in the 3rd quarter to bring the lead of the TNT into single digit only in the 4th quarter.

Yes, it's also a risky bet but I will take the risk here.

Sorry for your loss man, this is the first time I saw the Magnolia getting dominated by an opponent, TNT is really something and if they will sweep the Magnolia, I would understand it because they have a lot of options on players that will generate points for them and Mikey Williams just proved his worth again and he deserved to get a max contract, not a rookie one.

[LogitechMouse]

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Sorry for your loss man, this is the first time I saw the Magnolia getting dominated by an opponent, TNT is really something and if they will sweep the Magnolia, I would understand it because they have a lot of options on players that will generate points for them and Mikey Williams just proved his worth again and he deserved to get a max contract, not a rookie one.

When the PBA didn't start, Williams demanded for a monthly salary that is more than what is usual in the league and it seems like it is worth it because he is a very big piece in the team's rotation.
Anyway, these are the 3 reasons why Magnolia got defeated by a huge margin in that game.

1. Free throws - 26/44?? You are in the PBA Finals and you shot that low? In the first half alone, they shot less than 50% from the free throw line causing TNT to have a huge lead. TNT got so many fouls but unfortunately, MAG didn't convert those free throws into points.
2. Turnovers - 28 turnovers and TNT scored 26 points from their turnovers. We already saw SMB having these much turnovers and they lost against TNT and now MAG is doing the same. They can't afford to have these much turnovers or else, they might get swept in these Finals.
3. Paul Lee - special mention for him at least for me. In his last 3 games against Meralco, he scored way less than his usual points per game and this game he only scored 12 with 3/12 shooting. He is one of the main scorers of the team but he has this bad performances for 4 straight games already. Kudos to the defenders of TNT still because they manage to lessen Lee's production.
Overall, a win for the TNT and it is now 1-0. Second game will be on the 22nd. Adjustments will be made on MAG and I hope that they will come back in the 2nd game. I would love to see this Finals into 7 games .

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Sorry for your loss man, this is the first time I saw the Magnolia getting dominated by an opponent, TNT is really something and if they will sweep the Magnolia, I would understand it because they have a lot of options on players that will generate points for them and Mikey Williams just proved his worth again and he deserved to get a max contract, not a rookie one.

When the PBA didn't start, Williams demanded for a monthly salary that is more than what is usual in the league and it seems like it is worth it because he is a very big piece in the team's rotation.
Anyway, these are the 3 reasons why Magnolia got defeated by a huge margin in that game.

1. Free throws - 26/44?? You are in the PBA Finals and you shot that low? In the first half alone, they shot less than 50% from the free throw line causing TNT to have a huge lead. TNT got so many fouls but unfortunately, MAG didn't convert those free throws into points.
2. Turnovers - 28 turnovers and TNT scored 26 points from their turnovers. We already saw SMB having these much turnovers and they lost against TNT and now MAG is doing the same. They can't afford to have these much turnovers or else, they might get swept in these Finals.
3. Paul Lee - special mention for him at least for me. In his last 3 games against Meralco, he scored way less than his usual points per game and this game he only scored 12 with 3/12 shooting. He is one of the main scorers of the team but he has this bad performances for 4 straight games already. Kudos to the defenders of TNT still because they manage to lessen Lee's production.
Overall, a win for the TNT and it is now 1-0. Second game will be on the 22nd. Adjustments will be made on MAG and I hope that they will come back in the 2nd game. I would love to see this Finals into 7 games .

The turnovers were a huge factor why the Magnolia had a loss in this game, also, Paul Lee has not gotten his game back yet, I don't know maybe he is still feeling some injury because he was injured when the PBA was paused temporarily before they transferred to this venue now.

Anyway, regardless of how dominant TNT is, it's still one loss for Magnolia, and just like the game with SMB, we saw how they adjusted and beat the TNT in the 2nd game.

[Russlenat]

Williams lead the TNT to a win, this is nice for him as I'm sure he will be a problem for the Magnolia, no Ross anymore that would limit his offense and with this win, he will be more confident in the 2nd game. Pogoy, on the other hand, has not exploded yet, but in case Magnolia will try to focus the defense on Williams, Pogoy will surely do the honor to carry the team as only these two players are the major contributors of the team.

As we can see in the scoreboard (https://pba.ph/recap?match=1996064), Castro did not score a lot but TNT still dominated, TNT has really changed and improve as a whole.

[carlisle1]

Williams lead the TNT to a win, this is nice for him as I'm sure he will be a problem for the Magnolia, no Ross anymore that would limit his offense and with this win, he will be more confident in the 2nd game. Pogoy, on the other hand, has not exploded yet, but in case Magnolia will try to focus the defense on Williams, Pogoy will surely do the honor to carry the team as only these two players are the major contributors of the team.

As we can see in the scoreboard (https://pba.ph/recap?match=1996064), Castro did not score a lot but TNT still dominated, TNT has really changed and improve as a whole.

TNT limits Magnolias offense, as we've seen the productions of key stars.

Sangalang and Abueva are not in their cheat mode, while the rookie Williams sees that there are nor Ross type player who will stop him.

First game was taken by TNT and if the same pattern to reach game 7 will be followed, the next game will be for Magnolia. Not sure if that

will be the same case as adjustment will surely happen. Magnolia needs to work it out not be left by 2 game deficits.

[Russlenat]

Williams lead the TNT to a win, this is nice for him as I'm sure he will be a problem for the Magnolia, no Ross anymore that would limit his offense and with this win, he will be more confident in the 2nd game. Pogoy, on the other hand, has not exploded yet, but in case Magnolia will try to focus the defense on Williams, Pogoy will surely do the honor to carry the team as only these two players are the major contributors of the team.

As we can see in the scoreboard (https://pba.ph/recap?match=1996064), Castro did not score a lot but TNT still dominated, TNT has really changed and improve as a whole.

TNT limits Magnolias offense, as we've seen the productions of key stars.

Sangalang and Abueva are not in their cheat mode, while the rookie Williams sees that there are nor Ross type player who will stop him.

First game was taken by TNT and if the same pattern to reach game 7 will be followed, the next game will be for Magnolia. Not sure if that

will be the same case as adjustment will surely happen. Magnolia needs to work it out not be left by 2 game deficits.

The defense of TNT is ready to counter the aggressiveness of Magnolia, it looks like they got the taste of their own medicine and I think they didn't expect that to happen. The fact that they have a  high turnover, that means they are pressured enough that they were not able to effectively implement the game plan, in short, it was a very bad game for them that they need to correct in game 2.

[Kelvinid]

If PBA is not rigged, there's no way the Magnolia will be able to beat the TNT in game 2.

Sorry, I'm just saying the facts, TNT just played very well that Magnolia looks like a bunch of rookies.
TNT had offense everywhere, they are clicking because they are confident in making shots.

by the way, Williams might missed game 2.
https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/tnt-s-kelly-williams-hurts-back-in-game-1-win-over-magnolia-a793-20211020

[carlisle1]

If PBA is not rigged, there's no way the Magnolia will be able to beat the TNT in game 2.

Sorry, I'm just saying the facts, TNT just played very well that Magnolia looks like a bunch of rookies.
TNT had offense everywhere, they are clicking because they are confident in making shots.

by the way, Williams might missed game 2.
https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/tnt-s-kelly-williams-hurts-back-in-game-1-win-over-magnolia-a793-20211020

That's the advantage last game, TNT is clicking and they covered every sides of the court,

Each plays are really materializing for them, if Magnolia unable to bring something out and let this same thing to happen, TNT will

continue to dominate and will have a better edge from this series. Magnolia needs to find any possible system to defend and not to

let TNT dominates them in all the aspect of the game.

[bisdak40]

If PBA is not rigged, there's no way the Magnolia will be able to beat the TNT in game 2.

Sorry, I'm just saying the facts, TNT just played very well that Magnolia looks like a bunch of rookies.
TNT had offense everywhere, they are clicking because they are confident in making shots.

by the way, Williams might missed game 2.
https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/tnt-s-kelly-williams-hurts-back-in-game-1-win-over-magnolia-a793-20211020

Turn-overs killed the chance of Magnolia on that game 1 but surely there will be some adjustments that will be made by them to avoid another blowout loss. Remember the SMB and TNT series where most of the games were blowouts and we thought that SMB or TNT can't recover on the next game but they did. This series might follow the pattern of the semi-final series between SMB and TNT so better watch out for that. 

Bet for Magnolia ML @2.39 boosted.

[Maslate]

If PBA is not rigged, there's no way the Magnolia will be able to beat the TNT in game 2.

Sorry, I'm just saying the facts, TNT just played very well that Magnolia looks like a bunch of rookies.
TNT had offense everywhere, they are clicking because they are confident in making shots.

by the way, Williams might missed game 2.
https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/tnt-s-kelly-williams-hurts-back-in-game-1-win-over-magnolia-a793-20211020

Turn-overs killed the chance of Magnolia on that game 1 but surely there will be some adjustments that will be made by them to avoid another blowout loss. Remember the SMB and TNT series where most of the games were blowouts and we thought that SMB or TNT can't recover on the next game but they did. This series might follow the pattern of the semi-final series between SMB and TNT so better watch out for that. 

Bet for Magnolia ML @2.39 boosted.

I guess I would not bet for now yet, TNT has dominated them in all angles and it's too risky to bet on them for now.
Abueva has to step up his game, more hassle from him so they'll dominate inside, if they can't then that would be a huge problem.

What happen to Sanggalang in game 1? I noticed that he does not play the full minutes, is he dealing with some injury problem?

[Yamifoud]

What happen to Sanggalang in game 1? I noticed that he does not play the full minutes, is he dealing with some injury problem?

This is the reason why he only played limited minutes.

https://mb.com.ph/2021/10/20/magnolia-coach-reveals-reason-behind-ian-sangalangs-limited-minutes-in-game-1/

A back injury forced Ian Sangalang to play just 10 minutes in Magnolia Pambansang Manok’s 88-70 loss to TNT in Game 1 of the PBA Philippine Cup Finals, coach Chito Victolero said.

Victolero bared in a text message that the Hotshots top big man was dealing with back spasms which also led to the decision to sit out Sangalang for the rest of the second half with the Tropang Giga up by a huge margin.

Hopefully, he is good to go in game 2 as Magnolia really needed him, his contribution in the semi-finals was huge, he needs to carry that in the finals.

[LogitechMouse]

If PBA is not rigged, there's no way the Magnolia will be able to beat the TNT in game 2.

Sorry, I'm just saying the facts, TNT just played very well that Magnolia looks like a bunch of rookies.
TNT had offense everywhere, they are clicking because they are confident in making shots.

by the way, Williams might missed game 2.
https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/tnt-s-kelly-williams-hurts-back-in-game-1-win-over-magnolia-a793-20211020

Its because of turnovers, injuries and maybe a bad day for the MAG that is why they lost the game.
You might be right that PBA is rigged if that happens but in the end, we don't have any evidence to prove that it is rigged so... yeah. I just hope that MAG will make some adjustments after their loss and I hope that Sangalang and Lee will play better than Game 1.
More games = more entertainment and more revenue for the league. A win-win situation.

TNT is just a strong team and they are the favorites to win the championship. The absence of Williams will not be felt that much even though he performed very well in Game 1 because they still have big guys to fill the gap.

[mirakal]

What happen to Sanggalang in game 1? I noticed that he does not play the full minutes, is he dealing with some injury problem?

This is the reason why he only played limited minutes.

https://mb.com.ph/2021/10/20/magnolia-coach-reveals-reason-behind-ian-sangalangs-limited-minutes-in-game-1/

A back injury forced Ian Sangalang to play just 10 minutes in Magnolia Pambansang Manok’s 88-70 loss to TNT in Game 1 of the PBA Philippine Cup Finals, coach Chito Victolero said.

Victolero bared in a text message that the Hotshots top big man was dealing with back spasms which also led to the decision to sit out Sangalang for the rest of the second half with the Tropang Giga up by a huge margin.

Hopefully, he is good to go in game 2 as Magnolia really needed him, his contribution in the semi-finals was huge, he needs to carry that in the finals.

It will be a huge problem for Magnolia if Sanggalang is not available in game 2. They have bigs like Reavis, but he is not getting any younger, Troy Rosario and Erram are both quick enough for him, and they are stronger since they are younger. Abueva and Sanggalang are a good pair inside as they play unselfish basketball, so without Sanggalang, Abueva's attack is so predictable.