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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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October 21, 2021, 05:19:38 PM
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What happen to Sanggalang in game 1? I noticed that he does not play the full minutes, is he dealing with some injury problem?

This is the reason why he only played limited minutes.

https://mb.com.ph/2021/10/20/magnolia-coach-reveals-reason-behind-ian-sangalangs-limited-minutes-in-game-1/
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A back injury forced Ian Sangalang to play just 10 minutes in Magnolia Pambansang Manok’s 88-70 loss to TNT in Game 1 of the PBA Philippine Cup Finals, coach Chito Victolero said.

Victolero bared in a text message that the Hotshots top big man was dealing with back spasms which also led to the decision to sit out Sangalang for the rest of the second half with the Tropang Giga up by a huge margin.

Hopefully, he is good to go in game 2 as Magnolia really needed him, his contribution in the semi-finals was huge, he needs to carry that in the finals.

It will be a huge problem for Magnolia if Sanggalang is not available in game 2. They have bigs like Reavis, but he is not getting any younger, Troy Rosario and Erram are both quick enough for him, and they are stronger since they are younger. Abueva and Sanggalang are a good pair inside as they play unselfish basketball, so without Sanggalang, Abueva's attack is so predictable.
Hopefully Sanggalang will play. He's part of the rally of Magnolia and pairing him with healthy and good minutes to Abueva. They are competitive against Erram and Rosario.

But, not only Sanggalang and Abueva but also Lee and all the front runners of Magnolia they also need to help and stand against the challenged TNT guards are dominating them. Paul Lee needs to lead his team.

Time for Magnolia to fight back and equal the series, giving TNT 2-0 will bring more confidence. Wink

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October 21, 2021, 08:31:05 PM
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Time for Magnolia to fight back and equal the series, giving TNT 2-0 will bring more confidence. Wink

The odds are always the same in game 1, Magnolia is now at +4.5, so there's an indication that TNT might again win this battle.

Sanggalang could play in game 2, but how long and healthy he will be able to play.
As per the report;

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/10/21/21/pba-back-spasms-limit-magnolias-sangalang-in-game-1

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"(We) will find ways on how to manage his injury so he can play tomorrow (in Game 2)," Victolero said in a message to ABS-CBN News.

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October 21, 2021, 08:58:39 PM
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Time for Magnolia to fight back and equal the series, giving TNT 2-0 will bring more confidence. Wink

The odds are always the same in game 1, Magnolia is now at +4.5, so there's an indication that TNT might again win this battle.

Sanggalang could play in game 2, but how long and healthy he will be able to play.
As per the report;

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/10/21/21/pba-back-spasms-limit-magnolias-sangalang-in-game-1

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"(We) will find ways on how to manage his injury so he can play tomorrow (in Game 2)," Victolero said in a message to ABS-CBN News.

It could be the same but it's still nice to bet on Magnolia as they don't want to lose another game again. They were awful last game, no way it will happen again, adjustment will be made and though Sanggalang has some injury problem, I know he understands how important this game is, no way Magnolia will go down 0-2, so after this we will see the series to be even.

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October 21, 2021, 09:21:49 PM
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Game 1 the total was only 158 points, now the total is over/under 174.5. I think this one is easy, although we might not be able to see a high turnovers of Magnolia in this game ( I assume), I still believe they will also play a physical game and they will put more defense in game 2.

So I'll follow the trend, should be under 174.5.
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October 21, 2021, 09:50:20 PM
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Time for Magnolia to fight back and equal the series, giving TNT 2-0 will bring more confidence. Wink

The odds are always the same in game 1, Magnolia is now at +4.5, so there's an indication that TNT might again win this battle.

Sanggalang could play in game 2, but how long and healthy he will be able to play.
As per the report;

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/10/21/21/pba-back-spasms-limit-magnolias-sangalang-in-game-1

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"(We) will find ways on how to manage his injury so he can play tomorrow (in Game 2)," Victolero said in a message to ABS-CBN News.

If Sangalang continues to play limited minutes then I think it's money in the bag for TNT Katropa. He is one of the most important players of the Hotshots sd his contribution to the offensive and defensive chores is vital. Without him, Poy Erram will continue to feast on the inside as we all know that his confidence is a little bit high considering that he is fresh from a win on a battle with Junemar and Mo.

I just hope that coach Chito will find the right chemistry this time as to not jeopardize the injury of his bigs and still put up someone that can defend Erram this game2.

Good luck to all Magnolia backers here and let's continue to support the PBA as well.
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October 21, 2021, 11:44:04 PM
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no way Magnolia will go down 0-2, so after this we will see the series to be even.

I think saying there's no way Magnolia will go down 0-2 is too much. Disregarding their Game 1 performance, TNT is really playing at their best performance so far and that was hard to deal with. Just look how confident TNT rookie is and I think he's the only rookie in 5 years, for let's say, that dominating the numbers consistently for his team. Also having good role players from point guard to center, TNT is almost complete.

I'm not saying Magnolia will go down 0-2 but for a general analyst, it can't be concluded like that. Goodluck to them in the later game.

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October 22, 2021, 05:44:08 AM
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no way Magnolia will go down 0-2, so after this we will see the series to be even.

I think saying there's no way Magnolia will go down 0-2 is too much. Disregarding their Game 1 performance, TNT is really playing at their best performance so far and that was hard to deal with. Just look how confident TNT rookie is and I think he's the only rookie in 5 years, for let's say, that dominating the numbers consistently for his team. Also having good role players from point guard to center, TNT is almost complete.

I'm not saying Magnolia will go down 0-2 but for a general analyst, it can't be concluded like that. Goodluck to them in the later game.

Magnolia has to win game 2, they need this win otherwise they won't have the confidence anymore going to game 3 where when they lose they will be put at the brink of elimination. Scratch game 1, that's totally embarrassing for Magnolia but this team does not easily give up, they'll bounce back for sure, so let's be positive for that.

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October 22, 2021, 06:43:10 AM
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I will go with the flow, let's hope that Magnolia will even the series so we have a happy day with our wins.

I have some bets here that I like the odds, if this hits, I would enjoy drinking tonight. lol



Wish me luck "mga kabayan".
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October 22, 2021, 07:25:01 AM
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Wish me luck "mga kabayan".
What site you are placing your bets? Curious and interested to try that platform as well and maybe I can still ride since more games to go before this season end.

Anyway, Magnolia have to win because if TNT takes the lead it will be hard for them to recover though of course we know how good Magnolia team are, this is an exciting finals seriously, a big surprise not to see the top seeded teams. Btw, good luck on your bets have fun!

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October 22, 2021, 08:13:55 AM
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Wish me luck "mga kabayan".
What site you are placing your bets? Curious and interested to try that platform as well and maybe I can still ride since more games to go before this season end.
That's Bitsler.com, I'm also using the site ever since they have a sports betting attached to the platform.
it's good because the limit is low, so it's good for gamblers who have a small budget in sports betting.

The downside is you cannot do a price boost unlike in Sportsbet.  Smiley

Anyway, Magnolia have to win because if TNT takes the lead it will be hard for them to recover though of course we know how good Magnolia team are, this is an exciting finals seriously, a big surprise not to see the top seeded teams. Btw, good luck on your bets have fun!
Looks like the line will remain the same as it's not moving anymore, it will settle at +4 and this is already a good handicap if you are in favor of Magnolia to win.

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October 22, 2021, 10:52:38 AM
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Looks like we are seeing the same scenario in game 1, Paul is not 100% and Sanggalang, there's a big mismatch here and we saw how they got dominated by the TNT who are enjoying a comfortable lead now.

Good luck bettors, win or lose, we still have game 3 for Magnolia to win, if not, then the series will be over soon.

44-59 is the score now in favor of TNT.

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October 22, 2021, 11:24:56 AM
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I'm not sure if they can still come back in this game, TNT had 16 points lead in the 1st half, they need to have a strong 3rd quarter for them to be able to make it a close game or a single-digit lead by the TNT only. They did not show the aggressiveness that they need and their shot selections were not perfectly planned, I hope they could at least cover the spread.
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October 22, 2021, 12:09:18 PM
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I'm not sure if they can still come back in this game, TNT had 16 points lead in the 1st half, they need to have a strong 3rd quarter for them to be able to make it a close game or a single-digit lead by the TNT only. They did not show the aggressiveness that they need and their shot selections were not perfectly planned, I hope they could at least cover the spread.

You are right, they have a strong 3rd quarter and actually, they were able to close with TNT by trimming their lead to 4 points only, but TNT came back and they are now leading by 9 points, but don't worry, there's still plenty of time, who knows we will see a surprise here and Magnolia will win.

edit : Calvin Abueva has fouled out, Magnolia in trouble now.  Lips sealed

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October 22, 2021, 12:29:04 PM
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I'm not sure if they can still come back in this game, TNT had 16 points lead in the 1st half, they need to have a strong 3rd quarter for them to be able to make it a close game or a single-digit lead by the TNT only. They did not show the aggressiveness that they need and their shot selections were not perfectly planned, I hope they could at least cover the spread.

You are right, they have a strong 3rd quarter and actually, they were able to close with TNT by trimming their lead to 4 points only, but TNT came back and they are now leading by 9 points, but don't worry, there's still plenty of time, who knows we will see a surprise here and Magnolia will win.

edit : Calvin Abueva has fouled out, Magnolia in trouble now.  Lips sealed

This is over now, over 1 minute and TNT is still leading by 11 points, there's no chance Magnolia would be able to make a miracle here.

So after this game, it will be 2-0, still believe in Magnolia and we will go all-in in game 3.

Congrats to TNT, 2 games with an easy win.
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October 22, 2021, 12:38:47 PM
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This is over now, over 1 minute and TNT is still leading by 11 points, there's no chance Magnolia would be able to make a miracle here.

So after this game, it will be 2-0, still believe in Magnolia and we will go all-in in game 3.

Congrats to TNT, 2 games with an easy win.

I concede this series belongs to the Katropa, kudus to coach Chot Reyes for the job well done though this is not over yet judging on the body language of the Hotshot's players, seem they are not into it.

Betting for Magnolia in game 3 might not be a good idea as I think TNT might go for the sweep and go home to their families as early as possible.

If the spread on game 3 is still -4.5, I would go for the Katropa.
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October 22, 2021, 12:46:05 PM
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I'm not sure if they can still come back in this game, TNT had 16 points lead in the 1st half, they need to have a strong 3rd quarter for them to be able to make it a close game or a single-digit lead by the TNT only. They did not show the aggressiveness that they need and their shot selections were not perfectly planned, I hope they could at least cover the spread.

You are right, they have a strong 3rd quarter and actually, they were able to close with TNT by trimming their lead to 4 points only, but TNT came back and they are now leading by 9 points, but don't worry, there's still plenty of time, who knows we will see a surprise here and Magnolia will win.

edit : Calvin Abueva has fouled out, Magnolia in trouble now.  Lips sealed

This is over now, over 1 minute and TNT is still leading by 11 points, there's no chance Magnolia would be able to make a miracle here.

So after this game, it will be 2-0, still believe in Magnolia and we will go all-in in game 3.

Congrats to TNT, 2 games with an easy win.
I thought that the MAG had their momentum when they cut TNT's lead to just 4 but it seems like they've lost their momentum and that causes the TNT to get their 2nd win 105-93.
These are the 3 reasons I think why TNT got their 2nd win.

1. Mikey Williams is just unstoppable. Just see his stats in the first 2 games. He can't be stopped by either Barocca or Jalalon. Now he scored 28 points with 9 rebounds too and when MAG cut down the lead to just 4, he got 5 of the 7-0 run that TNT made causing their lead to go up again. No one can stop him right now and if MAG can't find a way to stop him, there is almost no chance for them to win. He is a scoring machine.
2. Foul troubles. Abueva got fouled out, Barocca and Jalalon got 5 fouls too. Pogoy got fouled out too but it doesn't matter because there is Williams to just shoot around if needed. Abueva's presence inside the court increases the morale of the team so him being fouled out is just devastating for the team.
3. Help from Paul Lee. Like I said, his previous game wasn't that good for him because he got a right shoulder injury causing him to miss a lot of shots and not performing on his usual performance. Sangalang played well this game with 25 pts but that wasn't enough for the team to get the W.

Overall, MAG players just need to step up on shooting and find a way to stop Mikey Williams. Congrats on the TNT win.

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October 22, 2021, 12:53:01 PM
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This is over now, over 1 minute and TNT is still leading by 11 points, there's no chance Magnolia would be able to make a miracle here.

So after this game, it will be 2-0, still believe in Magnolia and we will go all-in in game 3.

Congrats to TNT, 2 games with an easy win.

I concede this series belongs to the Katropa, kudus to coach Chot Reyes for the job well done though this is not over yet judging on the body language of the Hotshot's players, seem they are not into it.

Betting for Magnolia in game 3 might not be a good idea as I think TNT might go for the sweep and go home to their families as early as possible.

If the spread on game 3 is still -4.5, I would go for the Katropa.

That means there are no changes after all, but if the spread of TNT is -2.5, I think that implies something, it could be a trap so everyone thinks the line is easy and they will take it. Let's wait for the odds to be available, we could see another magic in game 3 as that's the only way Magnolia will win.

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October 22, 2021, 02:00:22 PM
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Overall, MAG players just need to step up on shooting and find a way to stop Mikey Williams. Congrats on the TNT win.
They don't put much pressure on Williams, if the defender can't handle him, then maybe they should think of doubling him as he has been creating a lot of damage for Magnolia's defense. Williams scored 28 points in this game from 10-20 shooting, that's a high percentage, so clearly the defense was not effective.

Good thing for Magnolia they have a working Sanggalang who scored 25 points in this game, but Calvin had a bad shooting night who only made 3 of 11 attempts.



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October 22, 2021, 02:02:36 PM
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I'm not sure if they can still come back in this game, TNT had 16 points lead in the 1st half, they need to have a strong 3rd quarter for them to be able to make it a close game or a single-digit lead by the TNT only. They did not show the aggressiveness that they need and their shot selections were not perfectly planned, I hope they could at least cover the spread.
Their coach is working very hard so they can work properly according to the plan, kudos to TNT for todays match, they really dominate the game for me. For Magnolia, I still hope that they can win against TNT, they still have the chance though so better not to give up yet.

Wish me luck "mga kabayan".
What site you are placing your bets? Curious and interested to try that platform as well and maybe I can still ride since more games to go before this season end.
That's Bitsler.com, I'm also using the site ever since they have a sports betting attached to the platform.
it's good because the limit is low, so it's good for gamblers who have a small budget in sports betting.

The downside is you cannot do a price boost unlike in Sportsbet.  Smiley
Great, I still have no account on that site so I might give it a try for game 3 and Its good that its friendly for a small time bettor.

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October 22, 2021, 04:45:28 PM
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Overall, MAG players just need to step up on shooting and find a way to stop Mikey Williams. Congrats on the TNT win.
They don't put much pressure on Williams, if the defender can't handle him, then maybe they should think of doubling him as he has been creating a lot of damage for Magnolia's defense. Williams scored 28 points in this game from 10-20 shooting, that's a high percentage, so clearly the defense was not effective.

Good thing for Magnolia they have a working Sanggalang who scored 25 points in this game, but Calvin had a bad shooting night who only made 3 of 11 attempts.
William is the big advantage here. This rookie without any pressure can easily take the shot with high confidence. Coach Chot sees that, and he continues using it, same play and same outcome. With the help of Castro and Rosario, TNT will keep on abusing Magnolia, if they want to win coaching staff needs to balance his man inside, putting new fresh legs and allow new defenders to try stopping those guards who already gained too much confidence.  Embarrassed



That means there are no changes after all, but if the spread of TNT is -2.5, I think that implies something, it could be a trap so everyone thinks the line is easy and they will take it. Let's wait for the odds to be available, we could see another magic in game 3 as that's the only way Magnolia will win.

Anything can happen but if Magnolia won't be able to find a way to make a good stop, expect that the outcome will continue to be like this, Lee needs to work things out, leading his team to try extending this series should be the focus for him in this upcoming game 3.  Roll Eyes

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