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September 04, 2021, 01:16:35 PM
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For now I'm still on my watch no predictions yet still watching the time to see how each individual react to the present leadership of Biden and what would be the fate of Americans in two years time then we can conclude after much analysis on who's next for the white house. But I'm certain Biden would need a second term in office
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September 04, 2021, 01:33:37 PM
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I can't really say what really is the issue with Biden's speech. He looks shaky when speaking and not very clear  or audible unlike Obama or Trump.
I don't know if he is aging faster anyway  Grin

When was the last time you listen to him? He is constantly pausing thinking, checking his notes, leaving the press conference after answering 1 question etc... I've been observing him and it is hilarious.

In what aspect really do you mean?

Health wise or the heat of administration like the recent decision for American Army to leave Afghanistan.

In what aspect? The dude can barely walk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5Mwc12LtRY

How is this weakling going to lead Murica? He can't even win against the wind!

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September 04, 2021, 07:00:54 PM
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The ultimate long shot bet, I sure wish I had the foresight to see the transformation of Trump from outsider to viable possibility.     I dont expect a repeat like this but the drop off in support away from the Biden camp is something I'd expect to see and will watch for that effect.   At present I dont especially rate anyone on the other side, it really would be a shot in the dark at the moment.   Rubio perhaps, sorry if my guesses are way off but Im interested in ideas at least to look out for.

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September 04, 2021, 07:38:02 PM
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Bitcoin betting on the 2024 US Presidential Election | Biden+Harris Vs ?? ??

With hours to go before Joe Biden is sworn in as the 46th President of the United States of America, will he stand down in two years time age 80 and give the electors a glimpse of a Harris administration for two years?

Or, will President Biden serve for four years and seek re-election in 2024?

Who will be the Republican challenger? Donald Trump, his daughter Ivana Marie "Ivanka" Trump... Mike Pence?

Will Bernie Sanders, Taylor Swift or even Kanye West have enough momentum to be a serious or credabital contender?

What odds would you expect to see for each of the challengers, and, if Bitcoin is worth about $36,000 right now, what might it be worth in four years time when the election is called?

In post two I'll post odds and websites taking wagers.


My predictions:

1.

In 2024, Bitcoin will be worth only $ 120,000.  In 2025 - $ 450,000.

2. 

Biden will serve as US President for 4 years.  He will not be re-elected for a second term.

3.

Harris will run for Democratic presidency in 2024.  Ivanka Trump will run for Republicans.  It will be a battle between two women candidates.  As a result, Harris will win by a small margin.  Furious with defeat, the Republicans will burn Congress.  However, Harris will rebuild it. 

4.

Bernie Sanders will retire from politics.  Taylor Swift and Kanye West won't succeed.

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September 04, 2021, 09:21:52 PM
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For now I'm still on my watch no predictions yet still watching the time to see how each individual react to the present leadership of Biden and what would be the fate of Americans in two years time then we can conclude after much analysis on who's next for the white house. But I'm certain Biden would need a second term in office

Biden so far is on a bad start after the US withdrawal in Afghanistan, he has good intentions but is so bad in his action, any terroristic act now that will come from that region will be blame on Biden for mishandling the situation and allowing the Taliban and to rule again and not pulling out all those who need to get out from Afghanistan and that includes their warfares that they left behind, these will be used by the Taliban to sow terror again, time will be the judge now and the call for his impeachment could grow.


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September 05, 2021, 03:30:57 AM
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My predictions:
1.In 2024, Bitcoin will be worth only $ 120,000.  In 2025 - $ 450,000.

2.Biden will serve as US President for 4 years.  He will not be re-elected for a second term.

3.Harris will run for Democratic presidency in 2024.  Ivanka Trump will run for Republicans.  It will be a battle between two women candidates.  As a result, Harris will win by a small margin.  Furious with defeat, the Republicans will burn Congress.  However, Harris will rebuild it. 

4.Bernie Sanders will retire from politics.  Taylor Swift and Kanye West won't succeed.

Apart from #4, none of your predictions look realistic. Biden is unlikely to serve the complete term. His net approval ratings are in negative, and it is rare for a Democrat president to perform that bad. If he's not replaced by Kamala in 2022, then that will definitely happen in 2023. For 2024, Kamala seem to have cemented her place as the Democrat nominee. But there is no chance that Ivanka will win the GOP nomination. For now, the frontrunner is Ron DeSantis. Bernie will be 83 years old by 2024. I don't even know whether he'll be alive till then.

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September 05, 2021, 03:40:32 AM
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My predictions:
1.In 2024, Bitcoin will be worth only $ 120,000.  In 2025 - $ 450,000.

2.Biden will serve as US President for 4 years.  He will not be re-elected for a second term.

3.Harris will run for Democratic presidency in 2024.  Ivanka Trump will run for Republicans.  It will be a battle between two women candidates.  As a result, Harris will win by a small margin.  Furious with defeat, the Republicans will burn Congress.  However, Harris will rebuild it.  

4.Bernie Sanders will retire from politics.  Taylor Swift and Kanye West won't succeed.

Apart from #4, none of your predictions look realistic. Biden is unlikely to serve the complete term. His net approval ratings are in negative, and it is rare for a Democrat president to perform that bad. If he's not replaced by Kamala in 2022, then that will definitely happen in 2023. For 2024, Kamala seem to have cemented her place as the Democrat nominee. But there is no chance that Ivanka will win the GOP nomination. For now, the frontrunner is Ron DeSantis. Bernie will be 83 years old by 2024. I don't even know whether he'll be alive till then.

I don’t know about Ivanka but isn’t Donald Trump yet trying to run for 2024 election?, and if he’s yet running then why would he allow Ivanka to run ahead of him?. Also Biden needs a miracle otherwise he’ll be asked to step down, and they’ll cite health issues for that but we all will know why he really stepped down.

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I don’t know about Ivanka but isn’t Donald Trump yet trying to run for 2024 election?, and if he’s yet running then why would he allow Ivanka to run ahead of him?. Also Biden needs a miracle otherwise he’ll be asked to step down, and they’ll cite health issues for that but we all will know why he really stepped down.

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Trump is quite selfish and it wouldn't surprised me if he decide to run again in 2024. But he'll face the same issues that Biden is facing now. He'll be 78 years in 2024, and in case he wins by the end of his term he will be 82 years old. From the opinion polls, I can see that Ron DeSantis is leading the GOP nomination race, with Mike Pence at no.2. GOP has a real chance of winning in 2024, but that would change in case Trump is adamant and want to run for POTUS. He is a polarizing figure and his candidature will result in suburban voters turning up in large numbers to vote for his opponent. What the GOP needs right now is someone who is more moderate and young.

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September 05, 2021, 06:24:48 AM
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My predictions:
1.In 2024, Bitcoin will be worth only $ 120,000.  In 2025 - $ 450,000.

2.Biden will serve as US President for 4 years.  He will not be re-elected for a second term.

3.Harris will run for Democratic presidency in 2024.  Ivanka Trump will run for Republicans.  It will be a battle between two women candidates.  As a result, Harris will win by a small margin.  Furious with defeat, the Republicans will burn Congress.  However, Harris will rebuild it. 

4.Bernie Sanders will retire from politics.  Taylor Swift and Kanye West won't succeed.

Apart from #4, none of your predictions look realistic. Biden is unlikely to serve the complete term. His net approval ratings are in negative, and it is rare for a Democrat president to perform that bad. If he's not replaced by Kamala in 2022, then that will definitely happen in 2023. For 2024, Kamala seem to have cemented her place as the Democrat nominee. 

Biden is on a bad start although he handles the pandemic well than Trump, but the Afghanistan issue is so huge that it will have a huge impact on the global fight against terrorism, it's not the US cause only but the Taliban will retaliate to those who persecute them in the last twenty years, two or three years from now, the Taliban that we have right now will be totally different from what we are seeing now..

They will be formidable and maybe sophisticated the US should not stop monitoring Taliban status in Afghanistan.

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September 05, 2021, 06:44:44 AM
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The youth is smart enough and voting rights will give them power to choose their leader because the old ones need to give a chance to some youngsters also as they cannot remain in power for long term and the coming era needs some new mindset people who are familiar with technical updations to boom the economy rather than focusing all agenda around political warfare and military equipment.Most probably they will be old enough to regain the postions and we might see some new faces on white House next to next time.
If there are a young candidate in the President Election and that young candidate has a new vision that is different from the old candidate, I think they can attract the people's attention and have a chance to win the Election. But I do not think the old candidate will not do something to prevent the young candidate from winning because to be President in a big country will give the winner full power to control the country. People themselves need to change to a better situation for their country and they are already fed up with the current situation.

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September 05, 2021, 07:23:03 AM
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Biden so far is on a bad start after the US withdrawal in Afghanistan, he has good intentions but is so bad in his action, any terroristic act now that will come from that region will be blame on Biden for mishandling the situation and allowing the Taliban and to rule again and not pulling out all those who need to get out from Afghanistan and that includes their warfares that they left behind, these will be used by the Taliban to sow terror again, time will be the judge now and the call for his impeachment could grow.
He's already being blamed for pulling out the troops there. But the Afghanistan government have 20 years long to stand on their own with the help of the US.

But the reason why the pulling off happened is due to that they've not even helping themselves for that long.



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September 05, 2021, 12:31:09 PM
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He's already being blamed for pulling out the troops there. But the Afghanistan government have 20 years long to stand on their own with the help of the US.

But the reason why the pulling off happened is due to that they've not even helping themselves for that long.

He is not being blamed for "pulling out". He is getting blamed because he pulled out without any concrete plan. He was sleeping until the last minute and when Taliban conquered Kabul, hundreds of thousands of people who had to be evacuated (including US citizens) were stuck there. Once Kabul came under their control, the Taliban conducted house-to-house raids and executed many of these people. And the US armed forces left all of their valuable equipment such as military helicopters and humvees at the hands of the terrorists. 
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He is not being blamed for "pulling out". He is getting blamed because he pulled out without any concrete plan. He was sleeping until the last minute and when Taliban conquered Kabul, hundreds of thousands of people who had to be evacuated (including US citizens) were stuck there. Once Kabul came under their control, the Taliban conducted house-to-house raids and executed many of these people. And the US armed forces left all of their valuable equipment such as military helicopters and humvees at the hands of the terrorists. 

I wonder what would be Biden's plan now that the Taliban is back and they are back in full force, Biden should counter what Taliban is going to bring the Al Queda will have a stronghold here if he made a bad decision on dealing with the Taliban the impeachment will get strong support, the Taliban will be Biden's biggest headache and he might lose his chance to get re-elected.

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I wonder what would be Biden's plan now that the Taliban is back and they are back in full force, Biden should counter what Taliban is going to bring the Al Queda will have a stronghold here if he made a bad decision on dealing with the Taliban the impeachment will get strong support, the Taliban will be Biden's biggest headache and he might lose his chance to get re-elected.

Biden is already 79 and he is not thinking about a re-election at this point. But he needs to be careful with his policies on the Taliban. Because senate and house elections are due in 2022 and Democrats need a strong performance in these elections because they want to fill the SCOTUS vacancies with far-left judges. Actually they were in a strong position, especially in states such as Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona and Nevada. But recent debacle in Afghanistan just swung the momentum towards the GOP.  
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He's already being blamed for pulling out the troops there. But the Afghanistan government have 20 years long to stand on their own with the help of the US.

But the reason why the pulling off happened is due to that they've not even helping themselves for that long.
He is not being blamed for "pulling out". He is getting blamed because he pulled out without any concrete plan. He was sleeping until the last minute and when Taliban conquered Kabul, hundreds of thousands of people who had to be evacuated (including US citizens) were stuck there. Once Kabul came under their control, the Taliban conducted house-to-house raids and executed many of these people. And the US armed forces left all of their valuable equipment such as military helicopters and humvees at the hands of the terrorists. 
From a neutral perspective even I was upset about what took place but technically a country cannot depend on the force from another country for a lifetime.

Yes, the execution could have been better but no doubt this was the right decision because if a country is not able to defend itself then others cannot help it too much either. I agree the execution could have been more swift and maybe it would be wise to give some kind of a timeframe before the forces were given orders to retreat.

From a technical point of view, Americans must be happy inside because this decision although severely bad for Afghans, was not that bad for Americans. And the voting would be done by Americans not outsiders so he still has a good chance of winning when it comes to elections.

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For now I'm still on my watch no predictions yet still watching the time to see how each individual react to the present leadership of Biden and what would be the fate of Americans in two years time then we can conclude after much analysis on who's next for the white house. But I'm certain Biden would need a second term in office
Biden has a bad mentality of making rushed decisions. Afghanistan was sold to a terrorist group because of his poor decision of pulling back the army without any knowledge of the consequences that may be there. I don't know whether I will gamble or not because I was harassed last time by some sportsbook by keeping the bets pending until Trump stopped his recounting drama. But even if I do bet on the elections, I am pretty sure I don't want to see Biden ever again.

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September 06, 2021, 04:10:55 AM
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Biden has a bad mentality of making rushed decisions. Afghanistan was sold to a terrorist group because of his poor decision of pulling back the army without any knowledge of the consequences that may be there. I don't know whether I will gamble or not because I was harassed last time by some sportsbook by keeping the bets pending until Trump stopped his recounting drama. But even if I do bet on the elections, I am pretty sure I don't want to see Biden ever again.

Betting on an election that is three years away is an extremely risky option. On top of that, you don't even know whether the betting site will last for that long. What will happen if they close down all of a sudden and vanish with all of your money? And even then, it can be considered if any one of the sides are having attractive odds. That is also not the case. As things stand now, these are the odds for POTUS 2024:

1. Kamala Harris: 3.50
2. Joe Biden: 4.00
3. Donald Trump: 6.50
4. Ron DeSantis: 11.00
5. Nikki Haley: 12.00
6. Mike Pence: 16.00
7. Elise Stefanik: 25.00 (from bet365).

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September 06, 2021, 07:36:26 AM
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I think if Nikki Haley were to announce she was running for the Republican ticket, then I feel she would pull a lot of the fractured party back together under one platform and agenda.  I think just about everyone here acknowledges that Kamala Harris is shaping up to be the Democrat's President in waiting/candidate.

If it were Harris Vs Haley, then the odds would be fairly close each-way.

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I think if Nikki Haley were to announce she was running for the Republican ticket, then I feel she would pull a lot of the fractured party back together under one platform and agenda.  I think just about everyone here acknowledges that Kamala Harris is shaping up to be the Democrat's President in waiting/candidate.

If it were Harris Vs Haley, then the odds would be fairly close each-way.

I would prefer either Ron DeSantis (governor of Florida) or Mike Pence (former vice-president) instead of Haley. DeSantis is more palatable to the suburban GOP supporters and at the same time, Haley has to deal with a lot of baggage from her personal life. Now comes the catch. Haley had stated previously that she would support Trump's nomination as the GOP candidate for the 2024 POTUS elections. The same is the case with Pence as well. So these scenarios will arise only if Trump rules out his candidature for 2024.
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My predictions:
1.In 2024, Bitcoin will be worth only $ 120,000.  In 2025 - $ 450,000.

2.Biden will serve as US President for 4 years.  He will not be re-elected for a second term.

3.Harris will run for Democratic presidency in 2024.  Ivanka Trump will run for Republicans.  It will be a battle between two women candidates.  As a result, Harris will win by a small margin.  Furious with defeat, the Republicans will burn Congress.  However, Harris will rebuild it. 

4.Bernie Sanders will retire from politics.  Taylor Swift and Kanye West won't succeed.

Apart from #4, none of your predictions look realistic. Biden is unlikely to serve the complete term. His net approval ratings are in negative, and it is rare for a Democrat president to perform that bad. If he's not replaced by Kamala in 2022, then that will definitely happen in 2023. For 2024, Kamala seem to have cemented her place as the Democrat nominee. But there is no chance that Ivanka will win the GOP nomination. For now, the frontrunner is Ron DeSantis. Bernie will be 83 years old by 2024. I don't even know whether he'll be alive till then.

Biden is a very old man... 

However, he is one of those people who can live for more than 100 years.  He has learned a lot in his life.  In particular, he learned to avoid stress and not react to little things.  During the day, he will sleep more and more, but he will not leave the post of US President.  He is a politician of the old formation.  Such people do not give up power so easily. 

Thus, Kamala Harris will get a chance to become the President of the United States no earlier than 2024. 

Ivanka does not yet look like a promising candidate for the US presidency. 

However, she still has time to prove herself as a promising candidate for the US presidency.  Donald Trump will help her in this. 

And the history of the United States knows many examples of family dynasties of US presidents.

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