Why do islam hates people?

[BADecker]

I honestly hate 99% of all religions (exception to Buddhism because Buddhists are chill as fuck) because most of them are used for control and have been used for the generation of profit.

You might want to hate Buddhism too. http://time.com/3090990/how-an-extremist-buddhist-network-is-sowing-hatred-across-asia Buddhist monks have been inciting violence against the Muslim minorities in Burma and Sri Lanka. Last year dozens were killed in Burma and thousands displaced because of the 969 group.

That's what happens when third world countries get TV and the Internet. They learn about Islamic violence, whether it exists or not.

actually its buddists who attacked the muslims of those country... read again before spreading hate.

Well, of course. The Buddhists learned about Islamic violence from the media, and set out to protect themselves and their people and their religion from it. Maybe Islamic violence isn't true. But you and the Buddhists can still hear about it on the media.

IYO either way muslims are bad and islam is bad.. what a bias judgement my friend!!!

If you mean that the media has a biased judgment, I don't think that it is a judgment about Islamic violence. I think that they (the media) say anything that they feel necessary to push people in directions they want them to go, for political and money purposes, of course.

Or were you talking about me having a bias judgment?

[Muhammed Zakir]

I honestly hate 99% of all religions (exception to Buddhism because Buddhists are chill as fuck) because most of them are used for control and have been used for the generation of profit.

You might want to hate Buddhism too. http://time.com/3090990/how-an-extremist-buddhist-network-is-sowing-hatred-across-asia Buddhist monks have been inciting violence against the Muslim minorities in Burma and Sri Lanka. Last year dozens were killed in Burma and thousands displaced because of the 969 group.

That's what happens when third world countries get TV and the Internet. They learn about Islamic violence, whether it exists or not.

actually its buddists who attacked the muslims of those country... read again before spreading hate.

Well, of course. The Buddhists learned about Islamic violence from the media, and set out to protect themselves and their people and their religion from it. Maybe Islamic violence isn't true. But you and the Buddhists can still hear about it on the media.

IYO either way muslims are bad and islam is bad.. what a bias judgement my friend!!!

You didn't come here earlier. If you did, you will understand what he is *really* doing.

[BADecker]

I honestly hate 99% of all religions (exception to Buddhism because Buddhists are chill as fuck) because most of them are used for control and have been used for the generation of profit.

You might want to hate Buddhism too. http://time.com/3090990/how-an-extremist-buddhist-network-is-sowing-hatred-across-asia Buddhist monks have been inciting violence against the Muslim minorities in Burma and Sri Lanka. Last year dozens were killed in Burma and thousands displaced because of the 969 group.

That's what happens when third world countries get TV and the Internet. They learn about Islamic violence, whether it exists or not.

actually its buddists who attacked the muslims of those country... read again before spreading hate.

Well, of course. The Buddhists learned about Islamic violence from the media, and set out to protect themselves and their people and their religion from it. Maybe Islamic violence isn't true. But you and the Buddhists can still hear about it on the media.

IYO either way muslims are bad and islam is bad.. what a bias judgement my friend!!!

You didn't come here earlier. If you did, you will understand what he is *really* doing.

Yep. I am showing us that the writings of Islam have enough violence directives in them that they can mix even good minded people up when they follow these writings.

I am also showing that the greatest thing that religions are for, is a way to gain eternal life in Heaven while avoiding death in Hell... the method for doing this is exactly opposite between Christianity and Islam. Islam says to do good things to avoid Hell and gain Heaven. Christianity says believe in the salvation of Jesus to get Heaven, and then be good out of love for God and your fellow man.

Since people can believe a whole lot easier than they can do the works, Islam is a religion of violence that hates Islamites by getting them to do violence by its words rather than live in peace like the Christian religion says. It's too bad Muhammed Zakir is so struck by blindness that he can't see that the peace of Islam is rooted in the violence that drags people into Hell.

[Spendulus]

Shia is not muslim?

That's news to me.

if you ask all muslim who is their last prophet they will say : Muhammad (pbuh)
if you ask any Shia who their last prophet is they will say Ali (pbuh)
if you ask Khajani's who their last prophet is they will say Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Khajjani

there are about 72 sects in Islam, all created by people  from different regions but comes to the same point, there were 144,000 approx prophets who came to earth, the last one is Muhammad (pbuh) and Allah is the sole God.

shia, khajanis, deobandis, koja, they are not believers of Islam, since they dont read the Quraan itself but some other books.

Well, peace be unto you, zeeshsnrehman2.

That is remarkably similar to the fashion in which various Christian sects will argue that Catholicism is not Christianity, because "the last prophet" would be the current Pope.  I'm simplifying a bit, but it is essentially the same.

As an atheist, I have a somewhat detached view of these ideas.  So you won't find me arguing that shia is or is not Islam and the like.  I guess I'd view Islam as a very broad phenomena, incorporating many with different ideas - if you wanted my point of view.  Anyway, from that perspective, Shia would certainly be included.

This is not very different from saying that the Western world has a "Judeo-Christian" basis.  It does not mean any particular sect, just that those broad ideas are at the basis of morality, ethics, justice and permeate popular culture.

Similarly, I do think we could talk about an "Islamic worldview" or an "Islamic culture."  But that's just my view, there is certainly no need for you to adopt it.

no no shia is not a sect within islam, it goes very different from the fundamentals of islam. they dont follow the religion at all. they have a different one actually. but yes, i do agree with your point. everybody has their own point of view on various subject.

Tell you what.  Since not just you but various others do want to debate "What is Islam", excluding from it various "Not True Islam" here is what I will do.  I will use the definition of Islam as asserted by Wikipedia.

This includes Sunni, Shia, Sufism, Ahmadiyya , Non-denominational Muslims, Ibadi, Mahdavia, Quranists, Yazdânism and  black Muslim movements.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam#Denominations

Obviously, this does include the various radical violent sects including Al Queda and ISIS.  But to distinguish them I will refer to them as "Radical Jihad Muslim/Islam."

[Wilikon]

Shia is not muslim?

That's news to me.

if you ask all muslim who is their last prophet they will say : Muhammad (pbuh)
if you ask any Shia who their last prophet is they will say Ali (pbuh)
if you ask Khajani's who their last prophet is they will say Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Khajjani

there are about 72 sects in Islam, all created by people  from different regions but comes to the same point, there were 144,000 approx prophets who came to earth, the last one is Muhammad (pbuh) and Allah is the sole God.

shia, khajanis, deobandis, koja, they are not believers of Islam, since they dont read the Quraan itself but some other books.

Well, peace be unto you, zeeshsnrehman2.

That is remarkably similar to the fashion in which various Christian sects will argue that Catholicism is not Christianity, because "the last prophet" would be the current Pope.  I'm simplifying a bit, but it is essentially the same.

As an atheist, I have a somewhat detached view of these ideas.  So you won't find me arguing that shia is or is not Islam and the like.  I guess I'd view Islam as a very broad phenomena, incorporating many with different ideas - if you wanted my point of view.  Anyway, from that perspective, Shia would certainly be included.

This is not very different from saying that the Western world has a "Judeo-Christian" basis.  It does not mean any particular sect, just that those broad ideas are at the basis of morality, ethics, justice and permeate popular culture.

Similarly, I do think we could talk about an "Islamic worldview" or an "Islamic culture."  But that's just my view, there is certainly no need for you to adopt it.

no no shia is not a sect within islam, it goes very different from the fundamentals of islam. they dont follow the religion at all. they have a different one actually. but yes, i do agree with your point. everybody has their own point of view on various subject.

Tell you what.  Since not just you but various others do want to debate "What is Islam", excluding from it various "Not True Islam" here is what I will do.  I will use the definition of Islam as asserted by Wikipedia.

This includes Sunni, Shia, Sufism, Ahmadiyya , Non-denominational Muslims, Ibadi, Mahdavia, Quranists, Yazdânism and  black Muslim movements.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam#Denominations

Obviously, this does include the various radical violent sects including Al Queda and ISIS.  But to distinguish them I will refer to them as "Radical Jihad Muslim/Islam."

You shall now await the blessing of imam bruce lee and see if he agrees on those terms...

 

[marcetin]

Too many words to read from beginning, but the title took my attention.

"Why do islam hates people? "

Why is that?

Who said islam hates people?  People hates people!

Sorry if you all answer this and I come late, but I do not get why people are always generalised.

Christianity does not hates people?

How many there are victims killed and tortured by Christians in last 1K years just because they were different religion, skin colour or beliefs.

And again, that has nothing to do with Christianity itself but with the people on leading positions, who interpret the holy books in a way that they like.

[popcorn1]

Too many words to read from beginning, but the title took my attention.

"Why do islam hates people? "

Why is that?

Who said islam hates people?  People hates people!

Sorry if you all answer this and I come late, but I do not get why people are always generalised.

Christianity does not hates people?

How many there are victims killed and tortured by Christians in last 1K years just because they were different religion, skin colour or beliefs.

And again, that has nothing to do with Christianity itself but with the people on leading positions, who interpret the holy books in a way that they like.

all religion is a load of bullshit and the sooner it gets forgotten about the better humanity will be
you spend to much time reading fairy tales ov the past
all that time reading praying for what
No amount of praying will help you only you can help your self

It pisses me off to know that you are teaching your children religion
the amount of time wasted when if you used that time instead of praying and reading religious books
to teach your kids science sports maths art music coding your children will have much a happier life and the planet will have much nicer people on it

religion causes war
yes i know people start war but religion is an excuse to start a war so if religion goes humanity will have to think of some other excuse to start a war
 3 thousand years humanity is behind we would ov had free energy by now only for religion
religion is like a plague it kills
 and if there is a god he or she will be looking down and thinking how stupid are those humans wailing at a wall bowing to a carpet and looking at a dead man on a cross WOW  

OH and if your thinking he wont be going to heaven i would spit right in gods face and say all that shit on earth and you want me to live with you go and fuck ur self you twat
 cancer war sick kids poverty need i go on
THERE IS NO GOD YOU ARE GOD OR BAD TAKE YOUR CHOICE IN LIFE

humans have emotions you feel if some 1 has hurt you
 if humans spend a bit more time  caring for other human emotions the better the planet would be
we feel emotions even if some one looks at you funny
so why on earth do you need a book to make you a better person
just care for other peoples emotions
 religiously teach your kids to care for other humans no matter what colour they are or where they come
from

[jaysabi]

@Wilikon Let's take for example what happened in Charlie hebdo .
Charlie Hebdo drawers insulted the son of the ex-president of France on their draws , then BOOM . the Director became without a job then ... they insult the prophet of muslims who is the leader of billions and billions of people and it suddenly became "freedom of speech" and no one should do anything about it . It just dosen't make sense and will never be . yes "Conspiracy theories" It's not theories for me because I know what Intelligence agencies do to make Islam look bad .

All they do is making groups of terrorists that kills by the name of the religion . They make the leaders and they recruit fucked up extremist who don't know a single shit about religion . that prooves why the half if not more are from Europeans or Americans because they don't know anything about the religion and they converted recently unlike the others who read about islam from their birth . so yeah ...
But all it's not working and I don't see why they keep doing it to be honest , Islam is spreading more and more then ever .

@Madness pointing at something you believe is wrong doesn't make something else less wrong. Am I using this thread to link isis and your belief (if you are muslim) in this thread? No. In your head, yes. It seems, to you, pointing to victims like I did in this thread (post #2) was wrong to even mention it. You seem to believe because I am not pointing to other cases you believe are wrong, and could very well be unjust, is proof I condone those other cases. Wrong again. Did you care what the tutsi and the hutu did to each other? Yes? Then good for you. Should I believe you are a racist because you answer would have been no instead? Certainly not.

See how that work or do you need a better explanation in french or spanish?


 

Well it certainly does look like some people would blame all the crazy radical Islamic violence on the CIA and such.  Gosh, they must be in a lot of places at the same time.   Let's look at just the last couple days.

Islam's Latest Contributions to Peace "Mohammed is God's apostle.  Those who follow him are harsh
 to the unbelievers but merciful to one another"  Quran 48:29

2015.05.25 (Gubio, Nigeria) - Children are among dozens killed after Boko Haram briefly takes over a small village.
2015.05.25 (Quetta, Pakistan) - Two Hazara religious minorities are murdered in a Sunni drive-by.
2015.05.25 (Zabul, Afghanistan) - Two women are among five killed in a massive suicide truck bombing that leaves over seventy others wounded.
2015.05.23 (Gilan, Afghanistan) - A family of four, including two children, is neatly disassembled by a well-placed Taliban bomb.
2015.05.23 (Baiji, Iraq) - Caliphate members slit the throats of sixteen traders transporting food into a city.
2015.05.22 (Jwamda-Kobla, Nigeria) - Sharia proponents sneak into a village and slaughter ten residents with knives.

http://thereligionofpeace.com/

why are you always on these claim when it has been several times proven that terrorism is NOT muslim. its NOT islam.?

Shia are NOT muslims.

Sharia? show me the book of Shariah, the book of the Shariah Law. it doesnt exists. it was a Constitution 1400years ago

Shia is not muslim?

That's news to me.

if you ask all muslim who is their last prophet they will say : Muhammad (pbuh)
if you ask any Shia who their last prophet is they will say Ali (pbuh)
if you ask Khajani's who their last prophet is they will say Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Khajjani

there are about 72 sects in Islam, all created by people  from different regions but comes to the same point, there were 144,000 approx prophets who came to earth, the last one is Muhammad (pbuh) and Allah is the sole God.

shia, khajanis, deobandis, koja, they are not believers of Islam, since they dont read the Quraan itself but some other books.

So does Muhammad have any significance to Shia? And what does pbuh mean?

[amiraja]

islam , save all people

[coinpr0n]

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So does Muhammad have any significance to Shia? And what does pbuh mean?

I have no idea about the first question but I think pbuh like that means "Peace be upon him" - but I could be wrong.

[Spendulus]

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So does Muhammad have any significance to Shia? And what does pbuh mean?

I have no idea about the first question but I think pbuh like that means "Peace be upon him" - but I could be wrong.

And PBU you, coinpr0n.

And may PBU your avatar pic most generously.

[Spendulus]

Too many words to read from beginning, but the title took my attention.

"Why do islam hates people? "

Why is that?

Who said islam hates people?  People hates people!

Sorry if you all answer this and I come late, but I do not get why people are always generalised.

Christianity does not hates people?

How many there are victims killed and tortured by Christians in last 1K years just because they were different religion, skin colour or beliefs.

And again, that has nothing to do with Christianity itself but with the people on leading positions, who interpret the holy books in a way that they like.

all religion is a load of bullshit and the sooner it gets forgotten about the better humanity will be
you spend to much time reading fairy tales ov the past
all that time reading praying for what
No amount of praying will help you only you can help your self

It pisses me off to know that you are teaching your children religion
the amount of time wasted when if you used that time instead of praying and reading religious books
to teach your kids science sports maths art music coding your children will have much a happier life and the planet will have much nicer people on it

religion causes war
yes i know people start war but religion is an excuse to start a war so if religion goes humanity will have to think of some other excuse to start a war
 3 thousand years humanity is behind we would ov had free energy by now only for religion
religion is like a plague it kills
 and if there is a god he or she will be looking down and thinking how stupid are those humans wailing at a wall bowing to a carpet and looking at a dead man on a cross WOW  

OH and if your thinking he wont be going to heaven i would spit right in gods face and say all that shit on earth and you want me to live with you go and fuck ur self you twat
 cancer war sick kids poverty need i go on
THERE IS NO GOD YOU ARE GOD OR BAD TAKE YOUR CHOICE IN LIFE

humans have emotions you feel if some 1 has hurt you
 if humans spend a bit more time  caring for other human emotions the better the planet would be
we feel emotions even if some one looks at you funny
so why on earth do you need a book to make you a better person
just care for other peoples emotions
 religiously teach your kids to care for other humans no matter what colour they are or where they come
from

There is some truth in your comments for sure.  But some don't care about free energy they think it's fine if people have to walk miles to gather twigs to cook with.

And unfortunately 85% of atheists are progressive liberals, the worst kind of scoundrels crawling the face of the earth.  But there is the other 15%, thankfully.

And here's my favorite violent Muslim, while we're at it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLk-3HPS12Q

[popcorn1]

i was wondering why humans seek god or something spiritual
 because we humans love it for some reason

and i think i know why BECAUSE LIFE IS SO SHORT
but you dont need books to tell you how to be good you just need to care for other peoples emotions
 
move forward its the 21st century
 i am bringing a new religion out its called THE EARTH GOD pray to the earth
it created you so pray to it
 and how you pray to the earth is you hop on 1 leg while chanting humana humana hoohaaaaa
 
sounds stupid?
 just as stupid as all other religions
  your praying to something thats not there
THE EARTH IS ALIVE PRAY TO THAT
THE RULES
RULE 1 always recycle
rule 2 plant some trees
rule 3 pray on a monday night for 3 mins just thank the earth for putting you here
rule 4 always have feelings for your fellow man
rule 5 dont kill
rule 6 dont rob
rule 7 dont teach your kids to hate
rule 8 always respect each other and be kind
rule 9 always help the poor
rule 10 always try to enjoy yourself and be happy
rule 11 and the most 1 every human needs to do treat your children with love and compassion and then he or she will go on to treat every 1 with love and compassion
 
THEY ARE THE NEW RULES FROM THE EARTH GOD break them and you will die slowly
 just like all other religions say ..burn in hell and all that caper

av a nice day all and if you want to pray
pray for love  and compassion for your fellow man
 not to some entity in the sky

[BADecker]

Too many words to read from beginning, but the title took my attention.

"Why do islam hates people? "

Why is that?

Who said islam hates people?  People hates people!

Sorry if you all answer this and I come late, but I do not get why people are always generalised.

Christianity does not hates people?

How many there are victims killed and tortured by Christians in last 1K years just because they were different religion, skin colour or beliefs.

And again, that has nothing to do with Christianity itself but with the people on leading positions, who interpret the holy books in a way that they like.

all religion is a load of bullshit and the sooner it gets forgotten about the better humanity will be
you spend to much time reading fairy tales ov the past
all that time reading praying for what
No amount of praying will help you only you can help your self

It pisses me off to know that you are teaching your children religion
the amount of time wasted when if you used that time instead of praying and reading religious books
to teach your kids science sports maths art music coding your children will have much a happier life and the planet will have much nicer people on it

religion causes war
yes i know people start war but religion is an excuse to start a war so if religion goes humanity will have to think of some other excuse to start a war
 3 thousand years humanity is behind we would ov had free energy by now only for religion
religion is like a plague it kills
 and if there is a god he or she will be looking down and thinking how stupid are those humans wailing at a wall bowing to a carpet and looking at a dead man on a cross WOW  

OH and if your thinking he wont be going to heaven i would spit right in gods face and say all that shit on earth and you want me to live with you go and fuck ur self you twat
 cancer war sick kids poverty need i go on
THERE IS NO GOD YOU ARE GOD OR BAD TAKE YOUR CHOICE IN LIFE

humans have emotions you feel if some 1 has hurt you
 if humans spend a bit more time  caring for other human emotions the better the planet would be
we feel emotions even if some one looks at you funny
so why on earth do you need a book to make you a better person
just care for other peoples emotions
 religiously teach your kids to care for other humans no matter what colour they are or where they come
from

There is some truth in your comments for sure.  But some don't care about free energy they think it's fine if people have to walk miles to gather twigs to cook with.

And unfortunately 85% of atheists are progressive liberals, the worst kind of scoundrels crawling the face of the earth.  But there is the other 15%, thankfully.

And here's my favorite violent Muslim, while we're at it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLk-3HPS12Q

Great post!     

[dominicg]

I am here to just say one thing? Why do YOU hate people? and you should really give a valid reason not a shitty one that says 'Because Jews, Because Christians, Because Atheists'
and Yes, I am a people's person for those who ask, just tell me, come out of your shell and say why you HATE people like myself, and I could be here to clarify things to you, or not...
Also here is something that most muslims mistake about people's person like me is that "Christianity or Buddhism hate other religions" for this I say, Christianity or Buddhism does not hate ANY religion, but they suggest to 'invite' them to Christianity or Buddhism or Judaism, as slowly, and peacefully, even if they refuse, you can try and try, until it's their choice, you stop. and for all the wars that happened, it's because this other religion decided to come into war on Christianity or Buddhism or Judaism.

If you need anything clarified, I may not be here to answer you, don't be scared, I won't be offended by anyone, also haters, you can reply, I won't care Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink


In other news ->

Religious activities depend HUGELY on the INTERPRETATION of the reader. So, Islam or Christianity or Buddhism teach whatever you interpret out of the words.
Think about it with an open mind, there's no harm in trying to understand

[Buffer Overflow]

Religious activities depend HUGELY on the INTERPRETATION of the reader. So, Islam or Christianity or Buddhism teach whatever you interpret out of the words.

Well that's the very core of the problem. People interpret it into whatever suits them at any given time and claim they are just following their book.
In other words, people can do what the hell they like and push the responsibility off themselves.

Dangerous.

[Wilikon]

Too many words to read from beginning, but the title took my attention.

"Why do islam hates people? "

Why is that?

Who said islam hates people?  People hates people!

Sorry if you all answer this and I come late, but I do not get why people are always generalised.

Christianity does not hates people?

How many there are victims killed and tortured by Christians in last 1K years just because they were different religion, skin colour or beliefs.

And again, that has nothing to do with Christianity itself but with the people on leading positions, who interpret the holy books in a way that they like.

This thread was created as a 'mirror' to that one:

why people hate islam:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=776096.0


If you want to know what the point was all about read post #2

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=888757.msg9799830#msg9799830


 

[jaysabi]

Too many words to read from beginning, but the title took my attention.

"Why do islam hates people? "

Why is that?

Who said islam hates people?  People hates people!

Sorry if you all answer this and I come late, but I do not get why people are always generalised.

Christianity does not hates people?

How many there are victims killed and tortured by Christians in last 1K years just because they were different religion, skin colour or beliefs.

And again, that has nothing to do with Christianity itself but with the people on leading positions, who interpret the holy books in a way that they like.

This thread was created as a 'mirror' to that one:

why people hate islam:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=776096.0


If you want to know what the point was all about read post #2

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=888757.msg9799830#msg9799830


 

Yes, it's just evolved into 88 pages of FUN because internet.

[Wilikon]

I am here to just say one thing? Why do YOU hate people? and you should really give a valid reason not a shitty one that says 'Because Jews, Because Christians, Because Atheists'
and Yes, I am a people's person for those who ask, just tell me, come out of your shell and say why you HATE people like myself, and I could be here to clarify things to you, or not...
Also here is something that most muslims mistake about people's person like me is that "Christianity or Buddhism hate other religions" for this I say, Christianity or Buddhism does not hate ANY religion, but they suggest to 'invite' them to Christianity or Buddhism or Judaism, as slowly, and peacefully, even if they refuse, you can try and try, until it's their choice, you stop. and for all the wars that happened, it's because this other religion decided to come into war on Christianity or Buddhism or Judaism.

If you need anything clarified, I may not be here to answer you, don't be scared, I won't be offended by anyone, also haters, you can reply, I won't care Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink


In other news ->

Religious activities depend HUGELY on the INTERPRETATION of the reader. So, Islam or Christianity or Buddhism teach whatever you interpret out of the words.
Think about it with an open mind, there's no harm in trying to understand

How can you have an open mind when you read post #2? Is there a way to justify it and make a logical sense of it?

[Wilikon]

Too many words to read from beginning, but the title took my attention.

"Why do islam hates people? "

Why is that?

Who said islam hates people?  People hates people!

Sorry if you all answer this and I come late, but I do not get why people are always generalised.

Christianity does not hates people?

How many there are victims killed and tortured by Christians in last 1K years just because they were different religion, skin colour or beliefs.

And again, that has nothing to do with Christianity itself but with the people on leading positions, who interpret the holy books in a way that they like.

This thread was created as a 'mirror' to that one:

why people hate islam:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=776096.0


If you want to know what the point was all about read post #2

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=888757.msg9799830#msg9799830


 

Yes, it's just evolved into 88 pages of FUN because internet.

And so far much of the participation is about everything else but the core problem addressed in post #2.


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"Fascinating..."