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2081  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Minedala #2 - Bitcoin art that mines bitcoin on: November 03, 2022, 02:31:00 AM
Art that mines Bitcoin? Now I have seen everything!

Although it would probably not mine enough coin to be a significant miner, but rather serves at artistic purpose, I think thats pretty cool. I think it would be even way cooler If the art would be energy-self-sustaining (like instead of getting power from an outlet, the artist could perhaps install solar panels or some other form of green energy and put it outside in the sun (but not too far away from a wifi source) then that would be a very nice Bitcoin monument to self sustaining decentralized financial freedom.
2082  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which has better odds, lottery, online gambling, or sports betting? on: November 02, 2022, 10:40:47 PM
If you are really skilled and knowledgeable about sports then I am sure you would prefer betting on sports and honestly, I think you could definitely improve your chances if you do your research and do it right. I cannot say the same for any other gambling games like dice. Those are basically just luck. Either you are lucky or you are not. Its all probability and your skill and strategy cannot change that, even if it sometimes feels like it can.

Now lotteries, that's a suckers bet, as they say. A hopeless attempt to deceive yourself into spending a small amount of money because it seems not as bad as betting larger amounts at the poker table, for example. But the jackpot will always be out of reach.

2083  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why btc cannot move pow to pos on: November 02, 2022, 07:40:15 PM
This question comes, Do btc network can move to POW to POS?
I am just asking and there is a issue that electricity bill too. Energy problem is most hottest topic all now. so lets discuss this

A POS Bitcoin would not be Bitcoin. It would be a POS version of the real Bitcoin. Throughout all these years POW Bitcoin has proven time and time again to be completely decentralized and fair. A POS version would become exactly the opposite. Right now the POS Ethereum has shown everyone how quickly this change will happen. ETH was basically centralized by a few addresses within the first few days of it switching to POS. I do not know the short term or long term real world consequences of this but I do not want to experiment on Bitcoin. Lets see what happens to Eth.
2084  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Chinese Intelligence Officers Used bitcoin to bribe a US Official on: November 02, 2022, 07:10:21 PM

I know of two possible ways the FBI can trace a bitcoin transaction


1. Hacking into an exchange
2. If one part of the transaction reports to the FBI as the GE-1 did.


OR 3. They could also take a look at the public ledger which Bitcoin literally operates on. How is this a regulatory achievement? I really do not understand. Anyone can trace where the Bitcoin goes and where it comes from. The only job the FBI has is waiting for the person to cash out on an exchange or do something in connection with the suspicious Bitcoin on a third party website which logs IP addresses and maybe even demands KYC and demand the host to hand over details on the suspicious account. Its really not that hard to catch the bad guys when it comes to Bitcoin. Bitcoin was never meant to be anonymous.

Regulations on blockchain or Bitcoin has made it easier to identify a transaction, knowing where it is coming from, where it is going and possibly who the senders and receivers are.

Bitcoin is and always was transparent. Its based on transactions which are on a public ledger, so there really is no "surprise" here nor does this show any kind of evidence of effectiveness from "regulations". But if they want to pretend like its their achievement, then that would be a lie.

2085  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Apple Pauses Gambling Ads in App Store Pages After Developers Complain on: November 02, 2022, 06:25:37 PM

It appears apple developers are not fans of gambling?

If apple based platforms ban gambling advertisements.

Could apple gain a reputation for having an anti gambling stance in the future. Which might lead to a backlash where casinos boycott apple based products?

I don't remember statistics or revenue numbers being published in response to facebook and other platforms banning cryptocurrency advertisements. Or if there was an actual backlash in those cases where social media platforms lost a significant chunk of revenue as a result of bans.

The gambling industry is different from cryptocurrency advertisements. Gambling is a trillion dollar industry worldwide. It might be large enough for ad bans and lost revenue to affect apples bottom line. Perhaps I'm exaggerating the influence of the gambling industry.




I do not think that Apple wants to get into the gambling business as they may see it as too risky or perhaps even they see themselves as too unexperienced in that area. And I honest would have to agree. Why would Apple want to get into a extremely competitive market which is completely foreign to them? It does not sound like a good business strategy. The part about them possibly banning gambling advertisements might be a loss of profit for them but they would not have to look over their shoulder everytime for a angry regulator and spending millions on lawyers just because the gambling world is so full of litigation.
2086  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do think that POGO should be declared as legal or Illegal ? on: November 02, 2022, 05:12:35 PM
A gambling platform headquartered in the Philippines called Philippines Offshore Gaming Operations (POGO) provides gambling, betting, and E-casinos outside of the nation. Many POGO companies operate legally in the Philippines by submitting license applications to PAGCOR, but some people run POGO illegally, which is why many legal offshore gaming operations are branded as illegal. If the government shuts down this operation, many Filipinos will lose their jobs and the Philippine economy will suffer a loss of several billion pesos.

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1672432/pogos-not-linked-to-illegal-online-gaming-says-pagcor

In my opinion, the POGO sector helps many Filipinos meet their basic needs and stimulates the economy, but having so many unlicensed offshore gambling establishments will harm the Philippines government's reputation.

Well it might be a bit too late to wonder about whether or not PGO should be declared as illegal or not since it already exists in a perfectly legal fashion. Of course the government will not want to miss out on profits from the legal side of this entire scheme but they should also find new ways to regulate and protect the online gambling because there are too many vulnerable groups which need to be protected. So instead of declaring it illegal (which I very much doubt they intend to do since this is a cash cow for them), they should be exploring new options. Usually I am not the guy who is on the side of regulators but sometimes it is needed.
2087  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: High roller looking for KYC-FREE casino on: November 01, 2022, 07:04:54 PM
I want to find a new casino without the need to expose myself to the KYC process. I don't want this thread to discuss the pro's and con's of KYC.
I want to remain a private person and gamble.
My play has made me the number 1 player at Blackjack.fun, wagering over 2000BTC
Things that are important:
KYC free obviously
good customer service
instant withdrawals
a community would be a plus
a decent range of games that are bug free


Thanks for taking your time to help me with the wide range of choices.


Sorry but I have a hard time believing you.

I don't think there exists a casino which will let you deposit/win such large amounts of BTC without KYC. To be honest, I do not believe you have that much money to gamble with which you could have won without KYC. No casino is going to throw themselves overboard, in a legal and financial sense, to pay out such sums to some unknown person.

Furthermore, are you sure you want to deposit such amounts into a third party shady casino wallet without doing KYC? Whats to stop the casino from taking your money? And then good luck proving it was your money or your wallet(s) in the first place.
2088  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 01, 2022, 05:20:03 PM
Your closest mate who have a good so called career, working 9 to 5 and very happy with everything. He never had interest with crypto even watching you addicted with bitcoin.

How would you react
When suddenly he calls you and ask how to buy dogecoin?
When you ask the reason of why dogecoin? He reply, "Elon mask bought Twitter and he can use dogegoin" 😂

Observing @ $20,550

And you think your friend is stupid.

As I have said time and time again there is a place for LTC/Doge

but maybe  not here in this thread.
No, he is not!
He has a PhD in IT LOL

If he wants to buy dogecoin he's definitely stupid. I also have a PhD in CS. As any credentials no guarentee you're not stupid Wink

Just send him https://medium.com/lux-initiative/bitcoin-the-libertarian-introduction-c616edd8496c from 2012 (mirror link, original is down). At that point he either gets it or he doesn't.
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2089  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dogecoin - History repeating itself on: November 01, 2022, 05:04:01 PM
Yep, just a memecoin that happens to be 10x faster and 100x cheaper to send than bitcoin.





Yeah, totally. There are absolutely no other coins or tokens which are faster and cheaper than Bitcoin AND have actual use cases with are meant to actually do something to raise their value, not just speculatively but substantially... Totally not.

I am sure the community feeling is all you need. Thats never going to disappear, right? No massive panic sells once Elon says "Nevermind, screw doge, I decided to make my own cryptocurrency" or something, right?

Dogecoin is the ultimate copecoin.  Kiss
2090  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] Manny Pacquiao vs. DK Yoo on: November 01, 2022, 04:27:35 PM
I am surprised no one is talking about this here yet, I guess it's probably because no one really knows who DK Yoo is(even I don't know who he is).

anyway, Manny Pacquiao is having an exhibition match against DK Yoo in a boxing match on December 10. I am not that interested in who he is fighting but I'd still watch the fight because I want to see Pacquiao in the ring again. besides, Pacquiao said that he'd give us a "real fight"(he said in one of the articles I've read) which I hope he would actually do.

also, I saw in one of the articles that Proceeds from the event will be donated to the homeless in the Philippines and families affected in Ukraine.


They are only having an exhibition match so its nothing all too special, really. I think thats mainly the reason why nobody is paying much attention. Although I find it very awesome that proceeds from the event will be going to a good cause. Hopefully they raise a lot of money!

I do not know DK Yoo's history other than he is more of a youtuber than a fighter, but he seems like a small fish. And just because Pacquiao is 43 and now retired from professional boxing does not mean that Yoo stands a ghost of a chance against the Pacman. I mean cmon, seriously.

Obviously Manny is going to show him what a real fight looks like.
2091  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dogecoin - History repeating itself on: November 01, 2022, 03:48:19 AM
I see a lot of people spitting on SHIB while praising DOGE with the argument that DOGE has been around since 2013, has built a big and active community, blah blah blah.

You guys realise that that is not a good argument for Dogecoin, right? Its been around so long and yet Shiba Inu already has amassed around 40% of Dogecoins marketcap - despite existing (in a practical sense) since only 2021. If anything, that just confirms Dogecoin being a failure of a cryptocurrency which is only being pumped due to famous personalities who manipulate it to enrich themselves in short-term fashion, like Elon Musk.

Sure, there are other famous personalities which cheer Dogecoin on but who cares about what celebrities like Snoop Dog think when it comes to investment decisions?

Do yourselves a favor and don't fall for the memecoins.
2092  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 31, 2022, 05:20:52 PM
Happy Bitcoinween everyone!

My costume will be a Bitcoiner. A bankers worst fear.
2093  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin - How high can it go? on: October 31, 2022, 03:42:23 PM
I currently have 3% of a Bitcoin having started dollar cost averaging in June after the crash. 

It is not a lot but it is slowly growing and I have many other Altcoins I am invested in so can't put everything into Bitcoin.

I am wondering what everyone thinks this the price of Bitcoin can realistically get to? $100k? $250k? $500k? $1m?

I am happy holding Bitcoin for the next 10 years or more if it reaches these prices above.

I am just debating if I should continue to DCA into Bitcoin or sell all and put into stronger altcoins which will see better ROI over the next few years.



There are almost what, 8 Billion people on earth? Not accounting those part of some lost tribe who do not have internet and live in some backwoods area with absolutely 0 contact to civilisation, I would say we definitely have not even seen the beginning of what price Bitcoin can reach. But Bitcoin is slowly but surely becoming adopted worldwide by everyone and at some point I truly believe it will become the one and only global money. So 1 million per Bitcoin is the smallest estimate I can give you. I don't doubt it will go beyond even that. Only time will tell though. Huh
2094  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it really possible to quit on these reasons on: October 31, 2022, 02:19:00 PM
You can when you won a huge amount
There's a discussion here of a guy who won a huge amount but added that he is quitting gambling is it really possible, anyone here have done quitting after winning a huge amount

You can when you lose a huge amount
This is the most popular reason to quit have you done this only to come back

You can anytime you want
Do you have the power to do it anytime that you want.

You have to when you're wife tells you to
I know a lot of guys who quit gambling for good after their wives tell them to, do you know of someone, or at one time you are one of them.

Let's discuss this and thank you for participating.


I think most people here have the mental ability to quit whenever they want. However we should not say that lightly since there is a considerable amount of people who happen to have huge addiction problems when it comes to gambling and cannot just up and leave when they want.

Losing or winning any amount of money has shown in the past to not be relevant when it comes to wanting to feeling just another rush from the risk of losing or winning money in some gambling game. So I really doubt that will convince most people to stop. Even millionaire winners seem to always come back to gambling.

As far as wives go... Well. That might be an effective way to stop gambling when your marriage is on the line.
2095  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What are five things you will do if you win huge amount of money?? on: October 31, 2022, 01:31:26 PM
What are the major five things you will do if win huge amount money?. Is it to buy are car or start a business?        Let's discuss about it together.

Well, seeing as you are asking this kind of question in a forum dedicated to users who invest in cryptocurrencies, especially Bitcoin, because they know them to be the future, I would say most of people here would invest a large portion of their winnings into crypto. At least, that is exactly what I would do. And since I gamble with crypto in the first place, I would not even have to do anything other than hodl in order to achieve that.

A part would go to my family. I would buy them everything they need, obviously. I mean whats the point in having money if you don't spend some of it to improve the lives of the people you love?

Not sure about the 3 other things I would do.

2096  Economy / Gambling / Re: I won 1500 dollars on a ufc fight + quit gambling on: October 30, 2022, 08:28:33 PM
I decided to bet big today on allen orland made around 1500 usd in profit today. On a  fight.  

Knew for sure he is gonna win.


Last week i made 9000 dollar in accident. I. Huge profit decide to quit gambling until 2023.


Here proof that im real man and i won:

https://www.loom.com/share/b6e6e779f2554471946f76092bde6495

Congratulations on your very nice winnings! 10.5k profit is really nice but since your winnings are so large I would wager a guess that your bets are also quite grand. I feel like you might be leaving out the amount you lost when before that :S But I do not want to bring your mood down, so I will just say congrats.

I also applaud the incredibly smart decision to step away from gambling for a while so you can cool down from the excitement of winning that much money. It would be in human nature to continue gambling because you "feel" as if you are on some sort of "lucky streak". And consequentially losing all your money by doing so. I know thats exactly what I would do in your position. :S
2097  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Dogecoin - History repeating itself on: October 30, 2022, 02:44:19 AM
I have been seeing Dogecoiners absolutely giddy about Elon Musk and over whether he will integrate Dogecoin into some Twitter-profit-scheme. This has led to a superficial pump in speculative nature. Why do people believe that Elon is not going to simply drop Dogecoin in the future?

Lets take a look at a similiar memecoin and its history:

Shiba Inu.

SHIB is in the top 13 on CMC and must therefore be a good investment, right? Wrong. It's trading at less than 15% of its ATH and is barely surviving.

Remember when it first came out? The idea was to do what most shitcoin devs were doing at that time and send most of the tokens to the wallet of a famous personality (Vitalik Buterin) in order to prove that the SHIB devs could never rugpull their investors and crash the price - they thought Vitalik would never touch SHIB as if there was supposed to be some unspoken, sacred bond between him and this ERC-20 token. Nobody expected Vitalik to donate the shitcoins/memecoins sent to him and crash the markets. Yet he did. Not all of them. Nonetheless the concept of a rugpull-proof memecoin failed. Vitalik did not care about the value of SHIB or the investors of SHIB. And so SHIB crashed and today has yet to recover even a fifth of its ATH price.

Now we have history repeating itself. Except this time with Dogecoin and Elon Musk as its only pillar of support.

I believe Musk is an egomaniac who only cares about the attention he gets from doing things like buying Twitter, making unsustainable cars or half-baked self landing rockets. He is just a bored multi-billionaire who wants more attention. Do people really believe DOGE can survive without Elon Musk backing it?

I for one will not be wasting my time or money just because some useless memecoin did what all cryptocurrencies do every now and then by pumping a decent 50+%.
2098  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 30, 2022, 01:20:48 AM

Don't get me started on understanding the bush.

what is it..a horticulture thread?  Grin

typical Saturday night vibes around here...



2099  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: MY FIRST BITCOIN PURCHASE. on: October 29, 2022, 05:47:10 PM
It's been nothing but JOY through out yesterday for me, as I was able to officially buy my first Bitcoin for HODL. I have been really interested in cryptocurrency lately but had no single clue of how it really works.
I then met with a friend, not just friend but a very long time friend, who have been thriving in the crypto space for guidance, and he kept giving me series of web links to go study and get back to him when done.
This is one thing I'm not really good at, which is reading for long and even writing.
I tried twice but couldn't and kept going back to him to just summarize everything and show me how to start making a living out of Bitcoin just as he was doing, but he kept referring me back to the links he sent and each time he did, I really feel bad and thought he never wanted to help me.

Two months back I took the challenge and read all he gave to me and not just once but about thrice this time, got all I needed and went back to him, but on a different note and then he told me, "WE DON'T CUT CORNERS, TO MAKING A LIVING GENUINELY." I felt that really hard and one thing he always kept singing was that I always buy Bitcoin at every opportunity that I have and today I'm so glad to announce that I was able to buy about $60 worth of Bitcoin, glad the journey of a thousand mile has began on the 28 of October 2022, And I hope it leads to greater opportunity in the industry, as I'm willing to learn ways.


Please join me celebrate my little beginning as I hope to update the community about my progress.

Congratulations on your very first purchase of Bitcoin! Remember not to make the mistake of selling out of panic, as you will definitely feel a bit scared whenever we have gigantic dips or pumps in price. And do not trade too often (if you are considering day-trading), as those trading fees can grind away all your money before you notice it. Those two things (emotional trading and trading too often) are really the biggest traps to watch out for.

If you ever need help or information feel free to post in the correct segment on this forum and we will try to help you out as much as we can!

Other than that, have fun and welcome to the world of Bitcoin! Grin
2100  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Split the prize or Reroll? on: October 29, 2022, 04:50:22 PM
Let's say you join a give away with other user and both have to select a number between 1 and 10, you go for 7 while he goes for 9. The winning number is 8.

If the prize is 0.1BTC what would you do? Split the prize and walk away with 0.05 or Reroll to gamble for the full prize?

I would probably split the prize and walk away with a decent 0.05 BTC. Anything else seems a bit too greedy and somehow feels like it would go wrong. In fact, if you were to use that 0.05 BTC to keep gambling, why on the same game? You could easily win more if you played it smart.

But this thread does raise the question of how much is considered a non-risky amount? At what point does splitting become a better option?

That probably might be different for everybody depending on their financial status such as their income and their capital. If I were a millionaire, I would not care about losing 1k. I would probably keep going and reroll.
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