Why I'm an atheist

[sotisoti]

Nice read, I used to think I was an atheist, but now I think I am more of an agnostic

[iluvbitcoins]

Just because I say that cause and effect is a scientific law, doesn't mean that it is. Yet, my words are proof in the sense that you can use my words as prompting to go and find out that cause and effect are scientific law... from the people who have proven that cause and effect are scientific law... like Newton, in his 3rd law. So, my words ARE proof in the sense that they are backed up by the proof of the scientific laws that others - multitudes of others - have confirmed.

While cause and effect alone does not prove that God exists, it almost does. How? By setting the stage through elimination of any sort of random. A person needs to consider what random really is. And I talk about it in my posts that I list.

There isn't any such thing as random. There is only our lack of observation of cause and effect. We can't see the countless operations of cause and effect - such as all the cause and effect actions by which all the individual electrons move as they do - so we use an artificial random to guess how things work. It is not true random. It is artificial, like when you toss a coin into the air, or roll dice. You use the term random to guess the results of your actions. Yet, there is no random, because it is all the forces of your toss or roll that cause the the results to happen the way that they do.

Why is the fact that there is no random important? It means that all operations of the universe, including life, never happened by accident. They were all caused. That is why EVOLUTION is simply change. It is never any spontaneous form of random effect. There is no form of pure random that has ever been seen or found by anyone. If you think there is some pure random somwhere, show the proof of it that can be confirmed, and has been confirmed by others.

Once you start to understand this, you have set the groundwork for the next two parts... entropy and complexity. Entropy and complexity take you the rest of the way to God.

Oh chuckles..... you make me laugh.

Your entire argument is based on assumptions. You say that cause and effect do not prove there is a god.... but it almost does. You have taken a leap of faith and assumed it to be correct.

You are a passionate little soul and I congratulate you on that. But quoting your own words is delusional.

Don't feel too badly. It takes training to be able to think logically. Keep working at it, and you just might get there sometime. I just hope that it happens soon enough for you to receive some of the revelations God offers, rather than only the simple understanding of His existence. Simple understanding of His existence isn't enough for salvation.

All your arguements are based on proving there is a god

But please, prove me that YOUR god is the real god

And how it's different from the jewish god or the muslim god, or the hindu god   

[BADecker]

Did you not see? Just because I say that cause and effect is a scientific law, doesn't mean that it is. Yet, my words are proof in the sense that you can use my words as prompting to go and find out that cause and effect are scientific law... from the people who have proven that cause and effect are scientific law... like Newton, in his 3rd law. So, my words ARE proof in the sense that they are backed up by the proof of the scientific laws that others - multitudes of others - have confirmed.

While cause and effect alone does not prove that God exists, it almost does. How? By setting the stage through elimination of any sort of random. A person needs to consider what random really is. And I talk about it in my posts that I list.

There isn't any such thing as random. There is only our lack of observation of cause and effect. We can't see the countless operations of cause and effect - such as all the cause and effect actions by which all the individual electrons move as they do - so we use an artificial random to guess how things work. It is not true random. It is artificial, like when you toss a coin into the air, or roll dice. You use the term random to guess the results of your actions. Yet, there is no random, because it is all the forces of your toss or roll that cause the the results to happen the way that they do.

Why is the fact that there is no random important? It means that all operations of the universe, including life, never happened by accident. They were all caused. That is why EVOLUTION is simply change. It is never any spontaneous form of random effect. There is no form of pure random that has ever been seen or found by anyone. If you think there is some pure random somwhere, show the proof of it that can be confirmed, and has been confirmed by others.

Once you start to understand this, you have set the groundwork for the next two parts... entropy and complexity. Entropy and complexity take you the rest of the way to God.

Here's an experiment in random for you BADecker, grab a set of Lego blocks, as many shapes, colours and sizes as you can and place them in front of you. Now close your eyes and grab any two pieces and join them together with your eyes still shut. With your eyes still closed, feel around and grab another piece and join it to the connected pieces, repeat as many times as you feel like.

What is the result? Could you have predicted the outcome of colour and shape even though you were the direct cause?

While there is probably a limit to the number of cause and effect actions that caused the Legos to lie in the exact places that they exist it, that number is fantastically great... way beyond understanding by mankind.

[BADecker]

Just because I say that cause and effect is a scientific law, doesn't mean that it is. Yet, my words are proof in the sense that you can use my words as prompting to go and find out that cause and effect are scientific law... from the people who have proven that cause and effect are scientific law... like Newton, in his 3rd law. So, my words ARE proof in the sense that they are backed up by the proof of the scientific laws that others - multitudes of others - have confirmed.

While cause and effect alone does not prove that God exists, it almost does. How? By setting the stage through elimination of any sort of random. A person needs to consider what random really is. And I talk about it in my posts that I list.

There isn't any such thing as random. There is only our lack of observation of cause and effect. We can't see the countless operations of cause and effect - such as all the cause and effect actions by which all the individual electrons move as they do - so we use an artificial random to guess how things work. It is not true random. It is artificial, like when you toss a coin into the air, or roll dice. You use the term random to guess the results of your actions. Yet, there is no random, because it is all the forces of your toss or roll that cause the the results to happen the way that they do.

Why is the fact that there is no random important? It means that all operations of the universe, including life, never happened by accident. They were all caused. That is why EVOLUTION is simply change. It is never any spontaneous form of random effect. There is no form of pure random that has ever been seen or found by anyone. If you think there is some pure random somwhere, show the proof of it that can be confirmed, and has been confirmed by others.

Once you start to understand this, you have set the groundwork for the next two parts... entropy and complexity. Entropy and complexity take you the rest of the way to God.

Oh chuckles..... you make me laugh.

Your entire argument is based on assumptions. You say that cause and effect do not prove there is a god.... but it almost does. You have taken a leap of faith and assumed it to be correct.

You are a passionate little soul and I congratulate you on that. But quoting your own words is delusional.

Don't feel too badly. It takes training to be able to think logically. Keep working at it, and you just might get there sometime. I just hope that it happens soon enough for you to receive some of the revelations God offers, rather than only the simple understanding of His existence. Simple understanding of His existence isn't enough for salvation.

Chuckles.... another joke?

You are a funny little fellow.

When you are able to think logically you will have gained a new skill, until then my friend you will continue to speak in an indoctrinated manner.

So, you understand the all pervading activity of cause and effect, then.

[BADecker]

Nice read, I used to think I was an atheist, but now I think I am more of an agnostic

It's about time that ALL the adamant atheists get their heads screwed on straight, and realize that there isn't really any atheism. Not until they know for an absolute fact that God does not exist can there be any atheism. If they only say that they believe God to not exist, they are ignoring the big part of themselves that is ignorant of nearly 100% of the things that go on in the universe... to say nothing about the not-understandable "stuff" that is outside the universe. God might exist therein.

[BADecker]

Just because I say that cause and effect is a scientific law, doesn't mean that it is. Yet, my words are proof in the sense that you can use my words as prompting to go and find out that cause and effect are scientific law... from the people who have proven that cause and effect are scientific law... like Newton, in his 3rd law. So, my words ARE proof in the sense that they are backed up by the proof of the scientific laws that others - multitudes of others - have confirmed.

While cause and effect alone does not prove that God exists, it almost does. How? By setting the stage through elimination of any sort of random. A person needs to consider what random really is. And I talk about it in my posts that I list.

There isn't any such thing as random. There is only our lack of observation of cause and effect. We can't see the countless operations of cause and effect - such as all the cause and effect actions by which all the individual electrons move as they do - so we use an artificial random to guess how things work. It is not true random. It is artificial, like when you toss a coin into the air, or roll dice. You use the term random to guess the results of your actions. Yet, there is no random, because it is all the forces of your toss or roll that cause the the results to happen the way that they do.

Why is the fact that there is no random important? It means that all operations of the universe, including life, never happened by accident. They were all caused. That is why EVOLUTION is simply change. It is never any spontaneous form of random effect. There is no form of pure random that has ever been seen or found by anyone. If you think there is some pure random somwhere, show the proof of it that can be confirmed, and has been confirmed by others.

Once you start to understand this, you have set the groundwork for the next two parts... entropy and complexity. Entropy and complexity take you the rest of the way to God.

Oh chuckles..... you make me laugh.

Your entire argument is based on assumptions. You say that cause and effect do not prove there is a god.... but it almost does. You have taken a leap of faith and assumed it to be correct.

You are a passionate little soul and I congratulate you on that. But quoting your own words is delusional.

Don't feel too badly. It takes training to be able to think logically. Keep working at it, and you just might get there sometime. I just hope that it happens soon enough for you to receive some of the revelations God offers, rather than only the simple understanding of His existence. Simple understanding of His existence isn't enough for salvation.

All your arguements are based on proving there is a god

But please, prove me that YOUR god is the real god

And how it's different from the jewish god or the muslim god, or the hindu god   

First, the only argument that I might have is that I don't have any arguments.

Second, anyone who doesn't accept the reality of the universe and what he does, says, and thinks therein, might have a hard time understanding the proof of the real God. Anybody who accepts the reality of the universe and what he does, says, and thinks therein, knows about the real God in his heart, even though he might not acknowledge Him.

[iluvbitcoins]

First, the only argument that I might have is that I don't have any arguments.

Second, anyone who doesn't accept the reality of the universe and what he does, says, and thinks therein, might have a hard time understanding the proof of the real God. Anybody who accepts the reality of the universe and what he does, says, and thinks therein, knows about the real God in his heart, even though he might not acknowledge Him.

Or basically mumbo jumbo mumbo jumbo mah god iz d rl god

I was just doing a seminar on Sumerian deities, and went across Enki instructing Atrahasis to build an arc to save people from a terrible flood
1000 years before Moses

Moses just didn't have Enlil making the flood because he couldn't bear peoples noise (it prevented him from sleeping)

Rewriting old stories can be found throughout the bible

[BADecker]

First, the only argument that I might have is that I don't have any arguments.

Second, anyone who doesn't accept the reality of the universe and what he does, says, and thinks therein, might have a hard time understanding the proof of the real God. Anybody who accepts the reality of the universe and what he does, says, and thinks therein, knows about the real God in his heart, even though he might not acknowledge Him.

Or basically mumbo jumbo mumbo jumbo mah god iz d rl god

I was just doing a seminar on Sumerian deities, and went across Enki instructing Atrahasis to build an arc to save people from a terrible flood
1000 years before Moses

Moses just didn't have Enlil making the flood because he couldn't bear peoples noise (it prevented him from sleeping)

Rewriting old stories can be found throughout the bible

Sumerian dating is off. The earth is only about 6,000 to 6,200 years old. http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm

[BADecker]

First, the only argument that I might have is that I don't have any arguments.

Second, anyone who doesn't accept the reality of the universe and what he does, says, and thinks therein, might have a hard time understanding the proof of the real God. Anybody who accepts the reality of the universe and what he does, says, and thinks therein, knows about the real God in his heart, even though he might not acknowledge Him.

Or basically mumbo jumbo mumbo jumbo mah god iz d rl god

I was just doing a seminar on Sumerian deities, and went across Enki instructing Atrahasis to build an arc to save people from a terrible flood
1000 years before Moses

Moses just didn't have Enlil making the flood because he couldn't bear peoples noise (it prevented him from sleeping)

Rewriting old stories can be found throughout the bible

Sumerian dating is off. The earth is only about 6,000 to 6,200 years old. http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm

Why don't you tattoo "6000 years old Earth" to your forehead?  Why are you keep saying it?  To convince yourself perhaps.

So if Earth is 6000 years old then the Stone Age did not happen, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolithic

You guys are worse than Neo-Nazis in re-writing human history.

It would be way more appropriate if you tattooed "stone age" to your forehead, since you are unwilling to look at the fact that stone age is simply some made-up stuff by some scientists(?).

You say it happened because you want it to have happened that way. That's all the truth and backing you have for it. Even your own people say this in their papers. But the Bible record, which is essentially a miracle in its existence, you want to ignore.

You jokers are way out of touch with reality.



EDIT: If you ever wanted to get serious, you would recognize that God exists. You haven't been able to rebut the laws that I show. Rather, you talk all around it. The laws of the universe show that Something as great as God is what made the universe.

[BADecker]

First, the only argument that I might have is that I don't have any arguments.

Second, anyone who doesn't accept the reality of the universe and what he does, says, and thinks therein, might have a hard time understanding the proof of the real God. Anybody who accepts the reality of the universe and what he does, says, and thinks therein, knows about the real God in his heart, even though he might not acknowledge Him.

Or basically mumbo jumbo mumbo jumbo mah god iz d rl god

I was just doing a seminar on Sumerian deities, and went across Enki instructing Atrahasis to build an arc to save people from a terrible flood
1000 years before Moses

Moses just didn't have Enlil making the flood because he couldn't bear peoples noise (it prevented him from sleeping)

Rewriting old stories can be found throughout the bible

Sumerian dating is off. The earth is only about 6,000 to 6,200 years old. http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm

Why don't you tattoo "6000 years old Earth" to your forehead?  Why are you keep saying it?  To convince yourself perhaps.

So if Earth is 6000 years old then the Stone Age did not happen, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolithic

You guys are worse than Neo-Nazis in re-writing human history.

It would be way more appropriate if you tattooed "stone age" to your forehead, since you are unwilling to look at the fact that stone age is simply some made-up stuff by some scientists(?).

You say it happened because you want it to have happened that way. That's all the truth and backing you have for it. Even your own people say this in their papers. But the Bible record, which is essentially a miracle in its existence, you want to ignore.

You jokers are way out of touch with reality.



EDIT: If you ever wanted to get serious, you would recognize that God exists. You haven't been able to rebut the laws that I show. Rather, you talk all around it. The laws of the universe show that Something as great as God is what made the universe.

So you think scientists make things up?  Why?  Because they are evil and want to destroy your Osiris fairy tale?

The physical artifacts of Stone Age cultures are all over the world.

You are deluded.

What?! You don't think that scientists make stuff up? Haven't you ever see science theories? They are all over the place. What do you think science theories are? Facts?? You seem to want to ignore the obvious that is right in front of you.

The Stone Age people are all over the world here and there, still using stones. There never was a time when the Stone Age did not exist. The problem lies in the way that many scientists describe the Stone Age... a ficticious way.

Why are you trying to ignore part of the facts, and trying to replace them with things that are not facts? Is it because that is what many scientists do... and the universities, and the media?

[TooQik]

Did you not see? Just because I say that cause and effect is a scientific law, doesn't mean that it is. Yet, my words are proof in the sense that you can use my words as prompting to go and find out that cause and effect are scientific law... from the people who have proven that cause and effect are scientific law... like Newton, in his 3rd law. So, my words ARE proof in the sense that they are backed up by the proof of the scientific laws that others - multitudes of others - have confirmed.

While cause and effect alone does not prove that God exists, it almost does. How? By setting the stage through elimination of any sort of random. A person needs to consider what random really is. And I talk about it in my posts that I list.

There isn't any such thing as random. There is only our lack of observation of cause and effect. We can't see the countless operations of cause and effect - such as all the cause and effect actions by which all the individual electrons move as they do - so we use an artificial random to guess how things work. It is not true random. It is artificial, like when you toss a coin into the air, or roll dice. You use the term random to guess the results of your actions. Yet, there is no random, because it is all the forces of your toss or roll that cause the the results to happen the way that they do.

Why is the fact that there is no random important? It means that all operations of the universe, including life, never happened by accident. They were all caused. That is why EVOLUTION is simply change. It is never any spontaneous form of random effect. There is no form of pure random that has ever been seen or found by anyone. If you think there is some pure random somwhere, show the proof of it that can be confirmed, and has been confirmed by others.

Once you start to understand this, you have set the groundwork for the next two parts... entropy and complexity. Entropy and complexity take you the rest of the way to God.

Here's an experiment in random for you BADecker, grab a set of Lego blocks, as many shapes, colours and sizes as you can and place them in front of you. Now close your eyes and grab any two pieces and join them together with your eyes still shut. With your eyes still closed, feel around and grab another piece and join it to the connected pieces, repeat as many times as you feel like.

What is the result? Could you have predicted the outcome of colour and shape even though you were the direct cause?

While there is probably a limit to the number of cause and effect actions that caused the Legos to lie in the exact places that they exist it, that number is fantastically great... way beyond understanding by mankind.

You should be in politics with question side stepping skills like this.

[BADecker]

Did you not see? Just because I say that cause and effect is a scientific law, doesn't mean that it is. Yet, my words are proof in the sense that you can use my words as prompting to go and find out that cause and effect are scientific law... from the people who have proven that cause and effect are scientific law... like Newton, in his 3rd law. So, my words ARE proof in the sense that they are backed up by the proof of the scientific laws that others - multitudes of others - have confirmed.

While cause and effect alone does not prove that God exists, it almost does. How? By setting the stage through elimination of any sort of random. A person needs to consider what random really is. And I talk about it in my posts that I list.

There isn't any such thing as random. There is only our lack of observation of cause and effect. We can't see the countless operations of cause and effect - such as all the cause and effect actions by which all the individual electrons move as they do - so we use an artificial random to guess how things work. It is not true random. It is artificial, like when you toss a coin into the air, or roll dice. You use the term random to guess the results of your actions. Yet, there is no random, because it is all the forces of your toss or roll that cause the the results to happen the way that they do.

Why is the fact that there is no random important? It means that all operations of the universe, including life, never happened by accident. They were all caused. That is why EVOLUTION is simply change. It is never any spontaneous form of random effect. There is no form of pure random that has ever been seen or found by anyone. If you think there is some pure random somwhere, show the proof of it that can be confirmed, and has been confirmed by others.

Once you start to understand this, you have set the groundwork for the next two parts... entropy and complexity. Entropy and complexity take you the rest of the way to God.

Here's an experiment in random for you BADecker, grab a set of Lego blocks, as many shapes, colours and sizes as you can and place them in front of you. Now close your eyes and grab any two pieces and join them together with your eyes still shut. With your eyes still closed, feel around and grab another piece and join it to the connected pieces, repeat as many times as you feel like.

What is the result? Could you have predicted the outcome of colour and shape even though you were the direct cause?

While there is probably a limit to the number of cause and effect actions that caused the Legos to lie in the exact places that they exist it, that number is fantastically great... way beyond understanding by mankind.

You should be in politics with question side stepping skills like this.

Actually, the question sidesteps itself. There is no random. There is only inability to observe cause and effect in detail. The question is not a real question. At best, it is a play question.

Even if I am asked a question, where is the requirement that I answer it? How much less when the question is as nonsensical as the one asked?

[TooQik]

Here's an experiment in random for you BADecker, grab a set of Lego blocks, as many shapes, colours and sizes as you can and place them in front of you. Now close your eyes and grab any two pieces and join them together with your eyes still shut. With your eyes still closed, feel around and grab another piece and join it to the connected pieces, repeat as many times as you feel like.

What is the result? Could you have predicted the outcome of colour and shape even though you were the direct cause?

While there is probably a limit to the number of cause and effect actions that caused the Legos to lie in the exact places that they exist it, that number is fantastically great... way beyond understanding by mankind.

You should be in politics with question side stepping skills like this.

Actually, the question sidesteps itself. There is no random. There is only inability to observe cause and effect in detail. The question is not a real question. At best, it is a play question.

Even if I am asked a question, where is the requirement that I answer it? How much less when the question is as nonsensical as the one asked?

How does "Could you have predicted the outcome of colour and shape even though you were the direct cause?" sidestep itself? Seems pretty straight forward to me.

Not a real question! What does that even mean Even a rhetorical question is still a real question.

I agree, there is no binding arrangement that forces you to answer anything asked of you, but given that you went to the trouble to reply it would make sense to at least try and answer rather than dance around it.

[stats]

Just because I say that cause and effect is a scientific law, doesn't mean that it is. Yet, my words are proof in the sense that you can use my words as prompting to go and find out that cause and effect are scientific law... from the people who have proven that cause and effect are scientific law... like Newton, in his 3rd law. So, my words ARE proof in the sense that they are backed up by the proof of the scientific laws that others - multitudes of others - have confirmed.

While cause and effect alone does not prove that God exists, it almost does. How? By setting the stage through elimination of any sort of random. A person needs to consider what random really is. And I talk about it in my posts that I list.

There isn't any such thing as random. There is only our lack of observation of cause and effect. We can't see the countless operations of cause and effect - such as all the cause and effect actions by which all the individual electrons move as they do - so we use an artificial random to guess how things work. It is not true random. It is artificial, like when you toss a coin into the air, or roll dice. You use the term random to guess the results of your actions. Yet, there is no random, because it is all the forces of your toss or roll that cause the the results to happen the way that they do.

Why is the fact that there is no random important? It means that all operations of the universe, including life, never happened by accident. They were all caused. That is why EVOLUTION is simply change. It is never any spontaneous form of random effect. There is no form of pure random that has ever been seen or found by anyone. If you think there is some pure random somwhere, show the proof of it that can be confirmed, and has been confirmed by others.

Once you start to understand this, you have set the groundwork for the next two parts... entropy and complexity. Entropy and complexity take you the rest of the way to God.

Oh chuckles..... you make me laugh.

Your entire argument is based on assumptions. You say that cause and effect do not prove there is a god.... but it almost does. You have taken a leap of faith and assumed it to be correct.

You are a passionate little soul and I congratulate you on that. But quoting your own words is delusional.

Don't feel too badly. It takes training to be able to think logically. Keep working at it, and you just might get there sometime. I just hope that it happens soon enough for you to receive some of the revelations God offers, rather than only the simple understanding of His existence. Simple understanding of His existence isn't enough for salvation.

Chuckles.... another joke?

You are a funny little fellow.

When you are able to think logically you will have gained a new skill, until then my friend you will continue to speak in an indoctrinated manner.

So, you understand the all pervading activity of cause and effect, then.

Once again.... you are using cause and effect and jumping to a conclusion.

Your argument is based on the assumptions which you believe.

TooQik has given a perfectly good example of cause and effect and you sidestepped. Why? Was the example too much for you to comprehend?

[BADecker]

Just because I say that cause and effect is a scientific law, doesn't mean that it is. Yet, my words are proof in the sense that you can use my words as prompting to go and find out that cause and effect are scientific law... from the people who have proven that cause and effect are scientific law... like Newton, in his 3rd law. So, my words ARE proof in the sense that they are backed up by the proof of the scientific laws that others - multitudes of others - have confirmed.

While cause and effect alone does not prove that God exists, it almost does. How? By setting the stage through elimination of any sort of random. A person needs to consider what random really is. And I talk about it in my posts that I list.

There isn't any such thing as random. There is only our lack of observation of cause and effect. We can't see the countless operations of cause and effect - such as all the cause and effect actions by which all the individual electrons move as they do - so we use an artificial random to guess how things work. It is not true random. It is artificial, like when you toss a coin into the air, or roll dice. You use the term random to guess the results of your actions. Yet, there is no random, because it is all the forces of your toss or roll that cause the the results to happen the way that they do.

Why is the fact that there is no random important? It means that all operations of the universe, including life, never happened by accident. They were all caused. That is why EVOLUTION is simply change. It is never any spontaneous form of random effect. There is no form of pure random that has ever been seen or found by anyone. If you think there is some pure random somwhere, show the proof of it that can be confirmed, and has been confirmed by others.

Once you start to understand this, you have set the groundwork for the next two parts... entropy and complexity. Entropy and complexity take you the rest of the way to God.

Oh chuckles..... you make me laugh.

Your entire argument is based on assumptions. You say that cause and effect do not prove there is a god.... but it almost does. You have taken a leap of faith and assumed it to be correct.

You are a passionate little soul and I congratulate you on that. But quoting your own words is delusional.

Don't feel too badly. It takes training to be able to think logically. Keep working at it, and you just might get there sometime. I just hope that it happens soon enough for you to receive some of the revelations God offers, rather than only the simple understanding of His existence. Simple understanding of His existence isn't enough for salvation.

Chuckles.... another joke?

You are a funny little fellow.

When you are able to think logically you will have gained a new skill, until then my friend you will continue to speak in an indoctrinated manner.

So, you understand the all pervading activity of cause and effect, then.

Once again.... you are using cause and effect and jumping to a conclusion.

Your argument is based on the assumptions which you believe.

TooQik has given a perfectly good example of cause and effect and you sidestepped. Why? Was the example too much for you to comprehend?

There you go again. Talk, talk, talk. Just like a politician. But you still haven't rebutted the proof for the existence of God. Until you at least show some rebuttal, your talk isn't really worth anything.

[Klima]

So there is nothing to refute. There is no evidence for the existence of God. Isn't that proof that there is no God and the Bible is lying then that person is not made of clay or you don't know what is in man?

[BADecker]

So there is nothing to refute. There is no evidence for the existence of God. Isn't that proof that there is no God and the Bible is lying then that person is not made of clay or you don't know what is in man?

As I said in another post, forget about the bible and religion for a moment. consider science that proves God exists:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

[BADecker]

So there is nothing to refute. There is no evidence for the existence of God. Isn't that proof that there is no God and the Bible is lying then that person is not made of clay or you don't know what is in man?

As I said in another post, forget about the bible and religion for a moment. consider pseudo-science that proves God exists nothing:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

You had few typos in your post. I fixed them for you.

I just wanted to thank you again for supporting the proof that God exists. Since you are unable or unwilling to refute or rebut the scientific laws that show that God exists, yet talk against them without rebuttal, you are helping to prove that God exists. And I want to thank you for this. Makes my job much easier.

[BADecker]

So there is nothing to refute. There is no evidence for the existence of God. Isn't that proof that there is no God and the Bible is lying then that person is not made of clay or you don't know what is in man?

As I said in another post, forget about the bible and religion for a moment. consider pseudo-science that proves God exists nothing:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

You had few typos in your post. I fixed them for you.

I just wanted to thank you again for supporting the proof that God exists. Since you are unable or unwilling to refute or rebut the scientific laws that show that God exists, yet talk against them without rebuttal, you are helping to prove that God exists. And I want to thank you for this. Makes my job much easier.

Sure thing. Whatever makes you happy.  Just stay calm, nice people in white uniforms will come and take you for a walk....

Did you notice that you still haven't rebutted the proof that God exists? Thanks for another post that supports the existence of God.

[BADecker]

So there is nothing to refute. There is no evidence for the existence of God. Isn't that proof that there is no God and the Bible is lying then that person is not made of clay or you don't know what is in man?

As I said in another post, forget about the bible and religion for a moment. consider pseudo-science that proves God exists nothing:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

You had few typos in your post. I fixed them for you.

I just wanted to thank you again for supporting the proof that God exists. Since you are unable or unwilling to refute or rebut the scientific laws that show that God exists, yet talk against them without rebuttal, you are helping to prove that God exists. And I want to thank you for this. Makes my job much easier.

Sure thing. Whatever makes you happy.  Just stay calm, nice people in white uniforms will come and take you for a walk....

Did you notice that you still haven't rebutted the proof that God exists? Thanks for another post that supports the existence of God.

I did.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1566146.msg17697392#msg17697392

Thermodynamics 2nd law applies to an isolated system.
Earth is not an isolated system. - The universe is an isolated system.
Entropy is not the same as complexity. - Entropy and complexity are in opposite categories.
If you use cause and effect argument, you need to provide a cause for God.  God needs a cause or your argument is invalidated. - God, being outside of the universe, is not controlled by the laws of the universe, except if His laws state such. God does not necessarily need to have a cause.

You've got anything else? - same stuff, that you continue to talk around rather than rebutting:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Your God is really the 'unknown'.  It is definitely not a blond haired, blue-eyed, English-speaking Jew. - Obviously God is unknown to or by you. However, as I have often posted, the scientific proof for God does not explain much about Him in detail. So, yes. He is mostly unknown by the proof for His existence. BTW, thanks for starting to admit that He exists.

You would not have to 'believe' in something if there was a proof.

I acknowledge God, in part because of the proofs that I have shown... He exists.

I believe in God, in part, because I believe the things that He has said in the Bible, His Word. Believing in God is like trusting in Him. You can't believe or trust in something that you won't acknowledge the existence of.

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to clarify and strengthen the knowledge that God exists, again, by your not being able to rebut it.