Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[timmmers]

Looks like Hashfast is going to be a month late, which works to our advantage. Hopefully after this increase this will mean at least one difficulty increase that will be minor.

Have been looking for a source on this -- do you have one?

Not official no, but their biggest fan hasn't popped over to disagree so it's possible.
Cross your fingers

So, are they actually overdue?

They can't be yet, but word has it they maybe..still looking for info. It's not like they're any more likely than KNC to admit it flat out though.

On a side note, after updating to .97 and the relief of it going fine which is a bit nailbiting after seeing some other tales of woe...I was sitting here at almost 4am when I heard a pretty loud whirring coming from the miner. Oh no, I thought..it's decided to go pear shared on me too. It was never noisy before. Went to check it up close and the whirring was a bloody police helecopter outside somewhere trying to give me a heart attack the bastards.

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[timmmers]

I want to sell one of my jepiter
i have three of them and they are all running over 555ghs
pm if interested for more info or pic
accept bitcoin payment only (bank transfer to oversea costing too many time which is reducing you profit)

Try here maybe? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=51.0

[edgar]

i just flashed enablecores onto my .97 jup and so far i cant get back into knc GUI. During the flash i saw All Cores Enabled.

ive cleared the cache and tried to connect via FF, IE & Chrome - none allow me past the login screen..

puTTY shows the rig is running, BTCG shows it is hashing albeit 100GH slower than it was but i expect it will ramp up.

still, would like to get back into the GUI without having to unplug my ether cable to get in direct...

[AussieHash]

My experience on my "bad" Jupiter with 0.95 to 0.97
An increase in WU from 6990 to 76xx +
An increase in HW errors up to 36%, which remained that high after >12 hours
A reduction in pool performance at 385-400GH/s despite 2 reboots, changing worker number

Reverting back to 0.95 shows now 40-80 dead cores on BertMod (despite enable cores)
WU back to 69xx
HW error ratio down to 18% after only a few mins
Pool performance 455 Gh/s and rising, despite the 10% lower WU

[DigginDeep]

So i see allot of people here are on eligius pool I tried it over night and seemed to be less then i was making on btcquild.  However i know i really have to give it more time to see real results.  But im curious if there is anyone that has spend allot of time on both of them and what kind of findings did they find?   I really like the layout of btcguild my self.  But if i can make more BTC else where being eligius or somewhere else i give up the nice interface,  seems i have only made around .7 of a bitcoing the last 24 hours on btcquild with a Jupiter witch im thinking i could be making more eles where.   what are others making a day and where at?

[sbfree]

Hey guys,

I have a Jupiter unit hosted with KnC since the beginning. It was performing really nice, with averages near the 550 GH/s on Bitminter, sometimes even reaching the 600 GH/s

After the firmware update yesterday it has been hashing all day in the 400's range. I'm reading very good feedback about the new firmware, but whatever it was, it really screwed my hashing rates.

Anyone experiencing a similar situation?

Thank you in advance for your feedback,

Best,

I updated by "bad" jupiter from 0.95 (with enable cores) to 0.97 about 12 hours ago

The WU increased from 69xx to 76xx-78xx, but the error rate is high 37% and the cgminer Avg is the same, despite the increased WU
 (5s):504.3G (avg):482.4Gh/s | A:2669800  R:20300  HW:1004701  WU:7644.5/m

The pool reported speed remains lower on 0.97, currently 405.04Gh/s

Aussiehash, I feel your pain. My saturn will either run a firmware that has low errors but then has low WU and low hashing. If I use a firmware like .97, where it improves hashing and WU, but the errors are then at 20%-25%.....KNC looks like I am not the only one with an error problem. As far as I can tell, most of the cores are enabled, so not sure what the problem is.

[edgar]

So i see allot of people here are on eligius pool I tried it over night and seemed to be less then i was making on btcquild.  However i know i really have to give it more time to see real results.  But im curious if there is anyone that has spend allot of time on both of them and what kind of findings did they find?   I really like the layout of btcguild my self.  But if i can make more BTC else where being eligius or somewhere else i give up the nice interface,  seems i have only made around .7 of a bitcoing the last 24 hours on btcquild with a Jupiter witch im thinking i could be making more eles where.   what are others making a day and where at?

i am on BTCG and made less than a BTC in the last 24hrs, i put it down to luck and me fiddling about reflashing and trying to see my realtime stats.

Now my avg is 1.3Mh/s

and WU is 0.0

wtf?!!

Reflashed .97 again - got my GUI access again

pushed down all the VRMs and heard 3-4 click down a bit.

went from 538 - 510 to;

Mining Status

CGMiner Status   Running (pid=4175)
Last Checked   Thu Oct 24 03:44:18 UTC 2013
Avg. Hash Rate   0 Gh/  <<<---WTF!
WU   0        <<<---WTF!
Difficulty Accepted   124928
HW Status

ASIC slot #1   43.0 ℃
ASIC slot #2   -
ASIC slot #3   49.0 ℃
ASIC slot #4   50.0 ℃
ASIC slot #5   45.5 ℃
ASIC slot #6   -

starting to wish id left it at .95.....

[mo_mo]

So i see allot of people here are on eligius pool I tried it over night and seemed to be less then i was making on btcquild.  However i know i really have to give it more time to see real results.  But im curious if there is anyone that has spend allot of time on both of them and what kind of findings did they find?   I really like the layout of btcguild my self.  But if i can make more BTC else where being eligius or somewhere else i give up the nice interface,  seems i have only made around .7 of a bitcoing the last 24 hours on btcquild with a Jupiter witch im thinking i could be making more eles where.   what are others making a day and where at?

i am on BTCG and made less than a BTC in the last 24hrs, i put it down to luck and me fiddling about reflashing and trying to see my realtime stats.

How many workers do you have?

[DigginDeep]

My experience on my "bad" Jupiter with 0.95 to 0.97
An increase in WU from 6990 to 76xx +
An increase in HW errors up to 36%, which remained that high after >12 hours
A reduction in pool performance at 385-400GH/s despite 2 reboots, changing worker number

Reverting back to 0.95 shows now 40-80 dead cores on BertMod (despite enable cores)
WU back to 69xx
HW error ratio down to 18% after only a few mins
Pool performance 455 Gh/s and rising, despite the 10% lower WU

I actually had pretty high error rates my self when i first tried .97   so then i downgraded to .95 restarted and then enable cores and restarted and then upgraded to .97  and still had bad errors.  so i went back to .96  since i was at work and was uploading firmware from my phone  and decided to wait tell i got home.  And i tried it again,  I downgraded down to .95 then  restarted and ran enable cores again.  And this time i did not restart after enable cores  and then upgraded back up to .97  and this time  its been running for over an hour.  551 Gh/s and errors at 8.1 right now and seem to be slowly going down.   BTCguild shows it 1t 538

[timmmers]

So i see allot of people here are on eligius pool I tried it over night and seemed to be less then i was making on btcquild.  However i know i really have to give it more time to see real results.  But im curious if there is anyone that has spend allot of time on both of them and what kind of findings did they find?   I really like the layout of btcguild my self.  But if i can make more BTC else where being eligius or somewhere else i give up the nice interface,  seems i have only made around .7 of a bitcoing the last 24 hours on btcquild with a Jupiter witch im thinking i could be making more eles where.   what are others making a day and where at?

My merc (ave 136) did .31 in the last 24 hours at slush. Looks like you're better than double that so you're better off there depending on how fast your rig hashes.

[opentoe]

im highly considering asking for a refund.

I've already got my November-Jupiter refunded.
Still sitting out on the hosted 39xx Saturn (will give them one more week or so before asking for a refund), though people after me in the queue started receiving their miners. My hope is that Saturn can be later upgraded to gen2 Jupiter (sometime close to the end of the 6-month hosting period) and shipped to me.

Upgrading a Saturn to a Jupiter you'll be in the same boat you are now. Just trying to play catch up. There's really no sense is buying anything that has hashing power less them 1Th/s these days. You know they are going to charge you for those modules just enough to mine enough to make some bitcoin to break even at a %50/%50 chance. Why do you think all the mining manufacturing companies are just selling these and not mining themselves? Because you can't make any money in mining anymore.

[nightengale]

Our vendor has told us that the substrates — one of the final components in completing the chip module  — are going to take a more time than expected.  The good news is that the silicon, arguably the more complicated part of the design, is right on track.  Once the substrates arrive, we can place the silicon and finish production. Our updated estimate is that the rigs will begin shipping in mid-November.

Found the source of info on HF running late -- once all KnC units are hashing, hopefully this delay will give us a little breathing room for ROI. And hopefully "mid-November" is an overly optimistic estimate to placate their customers...

[Phoenix1969]

Our vendor has told us that the substrates — one of the final components in completing the chip module  — are going to take a more time than expected.  The good news is that the silicon, arguably the more complicated part of the design, is right on track.  Once the substrates arrive, we can place the silicon and finish production. Our updated estimate is that the rigs will begin shipping in mid-November.

Found the source of info on HF running late -- once all KnC units are hashing, hopefully this delay will give us a little breathing room for ROI. And hopefully "mid-November" is an overly optimistic estimate to placate their customers...

You are the Man
That's awesome

[timmmers]

im highly considering asking for a refund.

 Why do you think all the mining manufacturing companies are just selling these and not mining themselves? Because you can't make any money in mining anymore.

They are mining. KNC said they would from the start. They need us to fund them with pre-orders or they couldn't afford to build them at all.
Give me a Jupiter now at the cost price to KNC and I'd be a very happy boy and making plenty...they ain't paying anything like what we do and will be able to make their "costs" back easily...I say "costs" because we probably already paid for their rigs so all it's costing is electricity and maybe hosting is paying that too looking at the mad pricing of it.

One day a company will grab enough finding from round one of pre-orders and sales to not need us anymore. They will make more from mining than sales. If a 7k rig wil break even now just about...and you can have that same rig for a fraction of the price, why would you sell it and let someone else take that profit? They won't one day if they don't need funding anymore.

[timmmers]

As someone who had a shoddy boxed unit full of rainwater arrive I've been quite pleased with the Jupiter...it runs on .95 at 555 gh and the highest core temp I have is
40c one is 28c the other 2 32c each....

so to say the least I've not upgraded ANYTHING but take the top off and have 2 small walmart fans pointing at the naked miner..that's it...been too scared I'd muck it up...to even think about anything else at least till I saw .97 as the recommended update

anyway if I do go with the new .97 upgrade this weekend when I have time to panic if it goes wrong....how hard is it to backtrack...say to .95 or 96? not that big a deal or what?

if it is painless going backwards as well as forward I'll take the chance

awaiting better minds then myself to weigh in on this


I'm also on slush an my ave hash there of long term is about 525gh even....

i'm not at work so I don't have hw nor wu rates available I think my error rate last I looked was 5 percent

anyway whatcha think

hey I appreciate the help ..I still think this so called out of control ahem "hobby" would be better run as co-op with some guys over beers...its lonely out in the sticks when you bump the table and your miner goes off and you scream like an 8yr old girl in terror!!! (luckily re-boot pops it right back up on restart)....such things are better shared while telling bfl horror stories over a campfire and a beer imho

anyway thanks for the advice you guys are pretty much the only source in town

Searing

I'm happy with the update, I thought about messing with a well running rig I hadn't touched, then I thought "Well it looks like I'd have roughly a Jalapeno extra hashpower on this merc, and I'd not leave a Jala sitting idle would I? Also, as I had mine delivered running .96 all I'd have to do if it went tits up was a factory reset...so easy enough to go back assuming that means back to what it was delivered running.

[Rawbit]

reboot...same
coldstart...
same
enablecores & coldstart.. 2 of 3 are back to old numbers..., 1 is 20gh/s slower than it was
guess time will tell...uuugghhf

enablecores & coldstart - did the trick for me too - thx!

[bobsmoke]

just wake up this morning and notice that my hosting miner has been offline since 22.40 GMT...it means 0 hashing.
In the KNC pool site, the miner says offline ... already sent an email to customer support...lets see.

Did anyone experience anything similar on the hosting?

[Searing]

As someone who had a shoddy boxed unit full of rainwater arrive I've been quite pleased with the Jupiter...it runs on .95 at 555 gh and the highest core temp I have is
40c one is 28c the other 2 32c each....

so to say the least I've not upgraded ANYTHING but take the top off and have 2 small walmart fans pointing at the naked miner..that's it...been too scared I'd muck it up...to even think about anything else at least till I saw .97 as the recommended update

anyway if I do go with the new .97 upgrade this weekend when I have time to panic if it goes wrong....how hard is it to backtrack...say to .95 or 96? not that big a deal or what?

if it is painless going backwards as well as forward I'll take the chance

awaiting better minds then myself to weigh in on this


I'm also on slush an my ave hash there of long term is about 525gh even....

i'm not at work so I don't have hw nor wu rates available I think my error rate last I looked was 5 percent

anyway whatcha think

hey I appreciate the help ..I still think this so called out of control ahem "hobby" would be better run as co-op with some guys over beers...its lonely out in the sticks when you bump the table and your miner goes off and you scream like an 8yr old girl in terror!!! (luckily re-boot pops it right back up on restart)....such things are better shared while telling bfl horror stories over a campfire and a beer imho

anyway thanks for the advice you guys are pretty much the only source in town

Searing

I'm happy with the update, I thought about messing with a well running rig I hadn't touched, then I thought "Well it looks like I'd have roughly a Jalapeno extra hashpower on this merc, and I'd not leave a Jala sitting idle would I? Also, as I had mine delivered running .96 all I'd have to do if it went tits up was a factory reset...so easy enough to go back assuming that means back to what it was delivered running.

ok that makes sense the hard 5 push reset trick and it would go back to .95...I can probably deal with that ...so i'll guess i'll give it a try this weekend when i'm off work

thanks for the help to those of us on here that at least up till this .97 version have had no inclination to upgrade..but then again they recommend the upgrade to I suppose I should just give it a shot to .97

thanks for the info
Searing

[btcusr]

Anyone noticed, this thread crossed half a million posts mark?!

[Rawbit]

i just flashed enablecores onto my .97 jup and so far i cant get back into knc GUI. During the flash i saw All Cores Enabled.

ive cleared the cache and tried to connect via FF, IE & Chrome - none allow me past the login screen..

puTTY shows the rig is running, BTCG shows it is hashing albeit 100GH slower than it was but i expect it will ramp up.

still, would like to get back into the GUI without having to unplug my ether cable to get in direct...

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