Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[Bogart]

Does anyone with a miner have a caliper to measure the thickness of the case.
Is it aluminium?

While I had mine apart I measured.

Looks like the bottom portion is 2.5mm thick, and the top is 1.5mm.  Both made from aluminum.

[soapmodem]

Is there a way to start ckkolivas' cgminer (currently 3.7.2) and have it stay running after closing the Putty window?

I can get it running, but when I close Putty, cgminer quits too.

Thanks.

[davewr2013]

polite requests are ignored

phonecalls go unanswered

{ etc. }

(ignore button is a pathetic threat made by pathetic individuals)

'do what i say or i'll press a button to ignore you without actually ignoring you' - awesome!

OK I wiped the drool... I opened my eyes.

Things still look the same....

Yes, some of the things occurred to me as well... I have My Saturn, It's churning out BitCOin. The sun will rise in the east Tomorrow...

Now, is there something we can help with?

Are there technical issues which we can help resolve?

Is there a question in there somewhere. Same to anyone else who agrees with you.

I am only going to hit the "ignore" button if:

• people only complain; and,
  make no useful contribution; and,
  continue to have no questions; and,
  have no problems for which wish to enlist assistance.
   

It's not a threat. How can it possibly be a threat? It's just that I have only so much time -- and listening to someone who only complains uses valuable time and energy that could be spent asking for help or giving help. If I can do nothing for you and have no interest in hearing the same complaints constantly reiterated, I am doing everyone a favour by blocking out the plaintive voices and helping whoever needs it -- or just helping myself.

Hoping that this is all clear.

[FUKT]

polite requests are ignored

phonecalls go unanswered

emails are answered by an automated response that promises a human response that NEVER arrives

forum posts are ignored or smeared with dung by the lucky/paid/bored/ignorant

unreasonable demands are made of CUSTOMERS who are illegally referred to as BUSINESSES

it is a big scam, and we are the investdurrs.

that SOME of us made +ROI (in USD) is immaterial for those of us that did not.

boasting of your 'success' or your 'method' is irritating to say the least when genuine concerns are deemed as TROLLING.

wipe the drool from your mouth and open your eyes!

modules ordered & paid for AFTER november orders will be shipped this week? next week? so when will the november orders get shipped?

30th november just to stay 'honest'

1st of dec due to EXTRA modules needing to be shipped a week or so late?

do we have ANY say in what is expected?

i hate the fact that we have to backflip through hoops & moonwalk on eggshells to get what we paid for (a fully functional rig)

while the million dollar success story is plastered all over the world ignoring the multitude of LEGITIMATE concerns are overlooked or passed of as false

(ignore button is a pathetic threat made by pathetic individuals)

'do what i say or i'll press a button to ignore you without actually ignoring you' - awesome!

+1

+1

[DPoS]

I've always got a reply to my emails from KNC and I've been pretty critical but also gave plenty credit where it is due.

Perhaps people shoot off too many emails so they skip them



about shipping each module separately, they said UPS demanded it...  but I wonder where UPS's critic was when KNC shipped the miners?

Absolutely... and "too many" may also be marked as spam by most e-mail services and automatically plopped into the spam folder...

yup..  and I think since KNC and UPS had a spat about the miner shipments (knc yelled at UPS for broke boxes and UPS probably said pack it like you have brains)
So I can see where they want to make each other happy now

[davewr2013]

Does anyone with a miner have a caliper to measure the thickness of the case.
Is it aluminium?

While I had mine apart I measured.

Looks like the bottom portion is 2.5mm thick, and the top is 1.5mm.  Both made from aluminum.

I checked with a digital caliper and got the same measurements in case anyone thinks it needs confirmation.

[Paladin69]

about shipping each module separately, they said UPS demanded it...  but I wonder where UPS's critic was when KNC shipped the miners?

So UPS now dictates how much product a person can put in their own box?

[davewr2013]

about shipping each module separately, they said UPS demanded it...  but I wonder where UPS's critic was when KNC shipped the miners?

So UPS now dictates how much product a person can put in their own box?

If the question is:

Is UPS big enough to dictate terms?

I would say yes. Been there -- done that. If you have ever owned and run a company you quickly become familiar with customers and suppliers that can dictate terms (of endearment?).

It sucks -- but it is the way it is...

[edgar]

So I just soldered connectors into positions 5 and 6 on my Saturn's control board and connected the modules to them.  So far it seems to be working fine.

Now I just need my upgrade modules to arrive and I'll be ready to try making a 5-module miner.

Like an BOSS!!




@davewr2013 - i dont recall ever contacting you for advise, assistance or support...

Saturn "churning' out BTC....

Please direct your pointlessness elsewhere

[Paladin69]

about shipping each module separately, they said UPS demanded it...  but I wonder where UPS's critic was when KNC shipped the miners?

So UPS now dictates how much product a person can put in their own box?

If the question is:

Is UPS big enough to dictate terms?

I would say yes. Been there -- done that. If you have ever owned and run a company you quickly become familiar with customers and suppliers that can dictate terms (of endearment?).

It sucks -- but it is the way it is...

I can imagine, I've just never heard of them being that nosey before.  People ship multiple computer products in the same boxes all the time.

To me, it sounds like the perfect excuse to overcharge for shipping.

[DigginDeep]

Is there a way to start ckkolivas' cgminer (currently 3.7.2) and have it stay running after closing the Putty window?

I can get it running, but when I close Putty, cgminer quits too.

Thanks.

Though on a side note my hardware error rate is slowly creeping back up to 6.8 already.  Going to try and downgrade to 9.6.1 my self and see if its any better.

Also bear in mind that if the hashrate looks higher artificially on the kncminer version, then the hardware error % rate will also look artificially lower.

Thanks...  So i take it i have to keep putty running to keep this version of cgminer? i notice when i close putty my miner stops and i got to reboot it to get it back online again.  Or is there a way to run this so i don't have to have my laptop on?  Also is there a way so it starts with this version after a restart?   thanks

If you start cgminer with this instead:

Code:

screen -dm ./cgminer -c /config/cgminer.conf

it will start in the background in a "screen session" so it will keep running.

Then you can "attach" to the screen with

Code:

screen -d -r

to see what's happening

Even if you close your ssh session or putty it will keep on running.

[DPoS]

I can imagine, I've just never heard of them being that nosey before.  People ship multiple computer products in the same boxes all the time.

To me, it sounds like the perfect excuse to overcharge for shipping.

putting 2 & 2 together I am thinking they 'had words' about that lame ass miner packaging and said up your game or go to someone else.

They do have really high costs shipping out from Sweden but I do not know how much you are allowed to put in an express box and how big of a box that KNC is packing their modules in...

either way, just wish they would ship them ASAP but looks like nothing till next week?  Why?

[Searing]

about shipping each module separately, they said UPS demanded it...  but I wonder where UPS's critic was when KNC shipped the miners?

So UPS now dictates how much product a person can put in their own box?

they can if you plan to insure it with ups fyi

Searing

[bobsag3]

about shipping each module separately, they said UPS demanded it...  but I wonder where UPS's critic was when KNC shipped the miners?

So UPS now dictates how much product a person can put in their own box?

If the question is:

Is UPS big enough to dictate terms?

I would say yes. Been there -- done that. If you have ever owned and run a company you quickly become familiar with customers and suppliers that can dictate terms (of endearment?).

It sucks -- but it is the way it is...

I can imagine, I've just never heard of them being that nosey before.  People ship multiple computer products in the same boxes all the time.

To me, it sounds like the perfect excuse to overcharge for shipping.

I know my UPS rep was pissed when I sent her pics of the box KnC used. She said UPS never should have let them ship with that thin a box in the first place- way under spec for what UPS is supposed to require for international shipments- the 4 Jupiters I shipped properly to Germany from the US arrived in 100% shape via UPS express, so UPS can do it.

[davewr2013]

about shipping each module separately, they said UPS demanded it...  but I wonder where UPS's critic was when KNC shipped the miners?

So UPS now dictates how much product a person can put in their own box?

If the question is:

Is UPS big enough to dictate terms?

I would say yes. Been there -- done that. If you have ever owned and run a company you quickly become familiar with customers and suppliers that can dictate terms (of endearment?).

It sucks -- but it is the way it is...

I can imagine, I've just never heard of them being that nosey before.  People ship multiple computer products in the same boxes all the time.

To me, it sounds like the perfect excuse to overcharge for shipping.

I know my UPS rep was pissed when I sent her pics of the box KnC used. She said UPS never should have let them ship with that thin a box in the first place- way under spec for what UPS is supposed to require for international shipments- the 4 Jupiters I shipped properly to Germany from the US arrived in 100% shape via UPS express, so UPS can do it.

Bob:

I agree with your assessment of the packaging...

Both DHL and UPS can do it properly. The box was "under quality". I just shook my head when I saw it. The DHL delivery guy (contractor company for DHL) has dealt with us for many years on our international shipments -- he just shrugged and rolled his eyes as well. So I opened it up -- fixed up the fans and started it up...

That was one point where I really appreciated the "Heads Up" that I got here in this forum.

We package $40 items better than that $4000 Saturn was packaged.

...hoping that KNC is learning -- but not holding my breath... too dangerous.

If they gave me an option to chose "Real Packaging at extra Cost" -- I would happily pay.

[davewr2013]

I can imagine, I've just never heard of them being that nosey before.  People ship multiple computer products in the same boxes all the time.

To me, it sounds like the perfect excuse to overcharge for shipping.

putting 2 & 2 together I am thinking they 'had words' about that lame ass miner packaging and said up your game or go to someone else.

They do have really high costs shipping out from Sweden but I do not know how much you are allowed to put in an express box and how big of a box that KNC is packing their modules in...

either way, just wish they would ship them ASAP but looks like nothing till next week?  Why?

I wonder about the same things.... I think they have a professional "Hand Wringer" on staff who invents rules about fairness to  everyone and all those sorts of "causes"...

So I am guessing that they will make the new boards and test them and ship them all at the same time -- just to be fair...

I find it amusing but frustrating -- and I am likely wrong -- but it invites speculation when they do what they do...

Enough of this speculation. I have a new and very shiny Bald Spot -- I have named it the KNC dome -- in honor of all the head scratching they make me do.

At least the miners work. So far. And for that I am grateful.

[Phoenix1969]

Off topic, I know... but you will appreciate this if you missed it....
http://youtu.be/1oGuKEazS5o

[soapmodem]

Is there a way to start ckkolivas' cgminer (currently 3.7.2) and have it stay running after closing the Putty window?

I can get it running, but when I close Putty, cgminer quits too.

Thanks.

Though on a side note my hardware error rate is slowly creeping back up to 6.8 already.  Going to try and downgrade to 9.6.1 my self and see if its any better.

Also bear in mind that if the hashrate looks higher artificially on the kncminer version, then the hardware error % rate will also look artificially lower.

Thanks...  So i take it i have to keep putty running to keep this version of cgminer? i notice when i close putty my miner stops and i got to reboot it to get it back online again.  Or is there a way to run this so i don't have to have my laptop on?  Also is there a way so it starts with this version after a restart?   thanks

If you start cgminer with this instead:

Code:

screen -dm ./cgminer -c /config/cgminer.conf

it will start in the background in a "screen session" so it will keep running.

Then you can "attach" to the screen with

Code:

screen -d -r

to see what's happening

Even if you close your ssh session or putty it will keep on running.

Precisely what I was looking for. Much obliged!

[opentoe]

Serious, if KNC was passionate about the products they make and really cared for them, they would have never shipped them with thin paperboard and no internal packing. This kind of proves they care less about their product and are soley in it for financial reward. I would rather invest my money with a company that cares about their own products.

And with UPS. You can pack whatever you want into a box. Guys, do you realize how small and light these boxes are going to be? A computer board that weighs the same as a pack of bubble bum and the size of playing cards. A couple cables. All less then 16OZ in a tiny little box. It will be like getting an Intel Processor box. That small. Trust me, UPS said no such thing about having one in each box. This is the last time I'll be investing with this company. They move to slow, have a horrible presence in the community (if any at all) and once they have your money start to treat  you a little different. They'll eventually ruin everything for themselves. People don't forget. I'll never forget  I had to pay $205 to ship 16ounzes to the Eastern US with a weeks delay first. That sticks in me like a hot knife.

[davewr2013]

Is there a way to start ckkolivas' cgminer (currently 3.7.2) and have it stay running after closing the Putty window?

I can get it running, but when I close Putty, cgminer quits too.

Thanks.

Though on a side note my hardware error rate is slowly creeping back up to 6.8 already.  Going to try and downgrade to 9.6.1 my self and see if its any better.

Also bear in mind that if the hashrate looks higher artificially on the kncminer version, then the hardware error % rate will also look artificially lower.

Thanks...  So i take it i have to keep putty running to keep this version of cgminer? i notice when i close putty my miner stops and i got to reboot it to get it back online again.  Or is there a way to run this so i don't have to have my laptop on?  Also is there a way so it starts with this version after a restart?   thanks

If you start cgminer with this instead:

Code:

screen -dm ./cgminer -c /config/cgminer.conf

it will start in the background in a "screen session" so it will keep running.

Then you can "attach" to the screen with

Code:

screen -d -r

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to see what's happening

Even if you close your ssh session or putty it will keep on running.

Precisely what I was looking for. Much obliged!

This reference might me helpful as well.
http://www.computerhope.com/unix/screen.htm

I gave it before -- but the thread gets pretty polluted and it can be hard to find.


I usually just do a screen -r command after logging in.
Then when I want to leave CGMiner I just issue a "CTRL-A d" set of keystrokes which exits to a prompt.

Then I just close the putty screen.

For me that works.