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October 03, 2020, 05:55:49 AM

There were liberals in the republic party and conservatives in the democratic party.

Rhino 🦏 was a nonexistent concept.

So, you are not old enough to remember even the 1960s—a quite recent time, as these things go.

The most dangerous thing possible has happened right wing and extreme right wing are all republican.

left wing and extreme left wing are all democrats.

Bipartisanship is shot. It is a fucking mess.

Since when is “bipartisanship” a good thing?  That is simply an obscurantist way of saying that (a) nobody should have principles, and (b) officially permissible opinion is narrowly confined to a false dichotomy:  One-party rule, with two faces.  That is, in fact, what you have in America.

The only “extremes” of anything that you have in either official faction of your bipolar uniparty are extremes of criminality.  In both factions.  Dominating both factions with nigh unanimity.

The much-ballyhooed “polarization” and “end of bipartisanship” are only a ploy of media hype, to regenerate interest in an entertainment that had been faltering.  Voter turnout rates were plummeting, and that was not “apathy”:  It was wising-up!  More and more people were realizing that they are under one-party rule, and that the one party is a criminal gang hostile to the interests of the vast majority of Americans.

The illusion was being lost—and with it, the consent of the governed upon which the power of all régimes must ultimately repose.  Thus stepped onstage Trump, a professional showman, to stir the pot just enough to get the enthusiasms flowing both for and against him.

Yes, Orange Bogey is manipulating the idiotic left just as much as he is manipulating the idiotic right:  Without Trump, would anybody be eager to vote for Biden?  Both sides are stupid enough to believe that Trump means what he says in his Presidential Tweets!

I think this means that his opponents must be marginally stupider:  The Trump Derangement Syndrome crowd needs for me to explain to them that Trump is a liar, and his fans are fools, and all of Trump’s grandstanding rhetoric is meaningless.  In substance, Trump is approximately equal to Biden—and vice versa.  (As a matter of form, I will admit that Trump is much more amusing.)

This relates to what I intended to post in P&S earlier.  Your whole reality-TV “election” is a dialectic between the followers of Lenin (D), who scream that Kerensky (R) is a right-wing extremist, and the followers of Kerensky, who scream that the extremist butcher Lenin has betrayed the revolution.  This circus would be merely a cheap comedy—if America were not a nuclear-armed rogue terrorist state, which also has had the whole world’s economy by the throat ever since the Nixon Shock, if not earlier.  The tragedy is that neither possible “election” outcome will change that.



Meh. You're talking about the original Antifa... They have technically been defunct since 1933. Modern day Antifa (as it pertains to the US) is not directly tied to any communist party, [...] Not many people in the US or anywhere for that matter identify themselves as communists anymore, or even socialists.

To cut a tedious argument against your habit of arguing from conceited ignorance, let us test your stated principle empirically.  Why don’t I change my nickname to “Sturmabteilung”, and my avatar to this:


Surely, you will be the first to say that that it has nothing to do with Adolf Hitler!  The original NSDAP, including the SA, has been defunct since 1945; and “not many people... identify themselves as [National-Socialists] anymore”.

Indeed, most of the people using Nazi symbols today have much less connection to Hitler than Antifa actually does to Communism.  I always find it remarkable that in 1930s Germany, the ilk of Anglin and r0ach would have been arrested as asocial and sent a labour camp to be made useful.  They come off as badly as if, by analogy, a Jew were to read Der Stürmer as a positive guide to Jewishness.  My first intended WO post, never published, was actually begun as a reply to the aforesaid entomonymous cretin; therein, I described a conversation I once with an old Jew about the worst humiliation to Hitler being entomoid neo-Nazis.  But that is another subject.

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...for it is more effective apologism than Walter Duranty—]



Of course people are not going to identify with the failed political ideology responsible for more deaths than any other in the history of the world.

But one of the things the left is fucking good at?  Rebranding.

Indeed, they rebranded so well that you suppose that Communism “failed”.  No, it did not fail:  It conquered the world.

Perpend the juxtaposition that in substance, America is today the most International-Communist country in the world, just as J. P. Morgan, et al. intended—and Red China is the most Global-Capitalist country in the world, with masses of proletarian wage-slaves ruled from the stock exchanges by giant global-international corporations.  It is no accident that Marx’s Bible is titled Capital.

The reason why “the left” so excels at “rebranding” is that Communism is not an ideology.  The ideological component is only idiot-bait:  A disposable tool, to manipulate other disposable tools.  At the highest level, the leaders have no ideology at all; they are only pragmatic.  They have no attachment to the espoused ideology which happens to be most convenient on any particular day—nor, of course, to the name “Communism”.  I still use the name “Communism” because a word is needed, and I do not chase after Communist-forced changes in language.  “Communism” concisely identifies the practical doctrine of world revolution by mass subversion that is still being run on a foundation systematized by Karl Marx, although it was not really invented by him.



When I was a conservative it meant fiscally conservative and now it means socially (religiously) conservative.

The right has been hijacked.

In America, before the rise of the 1970s Christian-televangelist New Right (which hijacked quite a few things), “conservatism” meant some concept of Constitutional ordered liberty, with respect for long-existing social institutions.  Obviously, the “liberty” part includes not having a Marxist government steal your money.

In Europe, before people became too Americanized, “conservatism” meant a respect for social class (not Marxist-American “socioeconomic class”), and monarchy and/or aristocracy.

Anywhere else, it means, by definition, conserving the existing order of things.

No “conservatism” can exist without cultural traditions; for otherwise, there is no foundation for anything else to conserve.  Fiscal policy does not exist in a vacuum:  To the contrary, it is only a secondary effect of the ordering of a society.  The worldview that holds economics as primary is actually Marxist, and is designed to dissolve a society to the point that Marxism can take over.
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So far, Donald Trump has never been positive about anything, but he is positive in covid-19 test Cheesy



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On the Bitmex drama, my thoughts.
Some bitcoin companies are like lab rats: they have been left alone to experiment things that one day will become part of the new FINancialTECHnology world. Take Bitmex: bringing futures to the next level right? or finex or any other. Then they come and tell you, hey boy, this is our territory, how do you dare?
And then they publicly admit that "Digital assets hold great promise for our derivatives market and for our economy". Yeah, right?

Thumbs up to 600watt, somac. for https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg55302340#msg55302340
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Today is going to be a crazy day.
In these moments it is like being in the middle of the ocean with the sea calm, stereo on, coffee, happy saturday
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So far, Donald Trump has never been positive about anything, but he is positive in covid-19 test Cheesy

Adviser say that Trump is very tired and having some trouble breathing. He took a regeneron polyclonal antibody cocktail that is not available to the public yet because it's an experimental drug not approved by the FDA.

Together with zinc, vitamin D, famotidine, melatonin and aspirin but he's doing well so far..
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Cant they inject him with UV or something?

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Cant they inject him with UV or something?
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While noting the research should be treated with caution, Mr Trump suggested further research in that area.
"So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous - whether it's ultraviolet or just very powerful light," the president said, turning to Dr Deborah Birx, the White House coronavirus response co-ordinator, "and I think you said that hasn't been checked but you're going to test it.
"And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside of the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you're going to test that too. Sounds interesting," the president continued.
"And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning?
"So it'd be interesting to check that."
Pointing to his head, Mr Trump went on: "I'm not a doctor. But I'm, like, a person that has a good you-know-what."
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Cant they inject him with UV or something?



He could be using laser therapy . I recall a few articles on it showing some benefit.
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Godwin's law:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

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On the Bitmex drama, my thoughts.
Some bitcoin companies are like lab rats: they have been left alone to experiment things that one day will become part of the new FINancialTECHnology world. Take Bitmex: bringing futures to the next level right? or finex or any other. Then they come and tell you, hey boy, this is our territory, how do you dare?
And then they publicly admit that "Digital assets hold great promise for our derivatives market and for our economy". Yeah, right?

Thumbs up to 600watt, somac. for https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg55302340#msg55302340

With CME, Bakkt and Grayscale, the US derivate market is becoming of "significant size", which was one of the main concerns of SEC. The other - manipulations of almost anonymous high leverage traders operating on Mex is now in the process of solving. This is not only CFTC and SEC concern but possibly the main "bart generator" for the last 2 years. So in any possible way, Mex news is good for Bitcoin. The 3% drop in the price is by no means to be compared with the benefits of manipulators being kicked out of the market.

It is quite possible that the CFTC statement "Digital assets hold great promise for our derivatives market and for our economy" is related to a possible ETF approval, as also suggested in this article:
https://bitcoinexchangeguide.com/a-big-positive-step-towards-the-bitcoin-etf-approval/

Although, IMO, institutions will find a way to get into Bitcoin without an ETF. We've seen however, that in the last months despite the huge purchases, the price didn't move as much as it should. The only logical explanation is of course the fraudulent shorting using Mex and other not well regulated exchanges. There is also a non logical explanation. As we are normal people here, carefuly thinking about every detail, we tend to forget that there are people who are not like us. Take for example Las Vegas - how many addicted people are in the casinos losing all the cash they bring in their pockets! The same is with the addicted daily traders, who can't be called manipulators, but like vicious brainless piranhas eat the price down until their stash is gone in an endless stop loss chase. The removal of Mex shorters will tip the balance against the piranhas and in favour of the natural growth. So I applaud the CFTC action and hopefully it will shut down Mex and put their owners and other money launderers in jail, where they belong!
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Great post buddy, really interesting angle on it. I didn’t think like that myself until I read your post & fillippone’s similar post.
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According to Godwin himself it is okay to make appropriate Hitler comparisons and that it should not end the discussion.

So are you saying that the Hitler reference was correct or incorrect?

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October 03, 2020, 11:41:42 AM

https://hcpp.tv/
halfway through this program rn. Jacob Applebaum on Assange and more

looks like Elwar is due tomorrow morning for his 'bullish' reveal?



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Great post buddy, really interesting angle on it. I didn’t think like that myself until I read your post & fillippone’s similar post.

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Great post buddy, really interesting angle on it. I didn’t think like that myself until I read your post & fillippone’s similar post.

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