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September 08, 2020, 02:51:20 PM

Good morning Bitcoinland.

More of the same... bouncing along retesting $10k support... currently $10134USD/$13338CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Up please. Go Bitcoin go,

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Jimbo, you, too.

Sorry. I've got better things to do than re-educate the masses.

I'm retired emeritus.

Then again, reprogramming people who've been brainwashed by SJW propaganda is a noble cause.
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Thank you for this answer.  Back in 2018 I had posted a question about the alt's spike in January, within the general discussions, but received zero replies.  My guess was that no one had a good answer.  I'll count yours as the first reply.

This next run up to a new ath should see around an order of magnitude increase in price, and with all that money circulating there should be an order of magnitude increase in shenanigans.  And officer Barbrady will be no where in sight to deal with it.

Its impossible to tell when or what the next ath will be, the only thing I know for sure is that it will be a fun ride.

edit:  ath, not atm.   Tongue

Exactly. You'll know when were are in the midst of a true run up, when you feel like you are in the middle of an absolute shitstorm with all the FUD and scams going around.

That's why I chuckle when people are saying things like "New ATH by this December!" Sorry but, no way. That's not how whale traders work, that's not how this market works. You think the whales would care to run it up during a recession/depression year, when people are massively out of work and don't have any extra money to spend right now? Nope. They will wait until the economy recovers, when people have extra money again. Also, the volume is just not there yet, not even close. The ramp up will take a year or two anyway to get going.

That's why now is the best buying opportunity.

Believe me, you'll know when we are entering the real run up when the trolls come out in force to tell people why they should be dumping all their bitcoin. It'll feel like the online forums (i.e., Bitcointalk, Reddit, etc.) are being massively overrun with trolls. When the MSM starts printing hit pieces against Bitcoin on an almost daily basis. When the MSM trots out the dinosaurs like Warren Buffett and Jamie Dimon again, to tell the public that they are all idiots for buying Bitcoin. Wink
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September 08, 2020, 03:01:20 PM

2017 high ~$20,000
2018 high ~$17,000
2019 high ~$14,000
2020 high ~$12,000

Up, up, and...oh wait...

Confirmed Conformed.

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September 08, 2020, 03:01:36 PM

Good afternoon WO!
Observing @ $9,962

meh!

Now we have more better @ $10100
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September 08, 2020, 03:15:49 PM

2017 high ~$20,000
2018 high ~$17,000
2019 high ~$14,000
2020 high ~$12,000

Up, up, and...oh wait...

Confirmed Conformed.



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September 08, 2020, 03:16:00 PM

2017 high ~$20,000
2018 high ~$17,000
2019 high ~$14,000
2020 high ~$12,000

Up, up, and...oh wait...

The year is not over yet. Keep in mind that even in 2017 the first 2 weeks of September looked bad. Who knew what was going to happen?
So why you rush it? The year is not over yet.
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September 08, 2020, 03:16:07 PM

So I went to go respond to that "The WO thread is mean and a big merit circle jerk" thread, but it looks like I can only WATCH it.

I wanted to give my opinion...  what gives SwayStart?
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September 08, 2020, 03:18:25 PM

2017 high ~$20,000
2018 high ~$17,000
2019 high ~$14,000
2020 high ~$12,000

Up, up, and...oh wait...

The year is not over yet. Keep in mind that even in 2017 the first 2 weeks of September looked bad. Who knew what was going to happen?
So why you rush it? The year is not over yet.

The year isn't over, but bitcoin is. As you can see, we've been trending down towards $10k and it's increasingly evident that isn't any kind of good support. Once enough of the market accepts what's already confirmed, the dam will break and we'll continue our market back down toward $1,000, and then, of course, below that.
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September 08, 2020, 03:37:44 PM

The year isn't over, but bitcoin is. As you can see, we've been trending down towards $10k and it's increasingly evident that isn't any kind of good support. Once enough of the market accepts what's already confirmed, the dam will break and we'll continue our market back down toward $1,000, and then, of course, below that.

Is the year 2013 over yet?

Satoshi Nakamoto located and apprehended by Chinese government.  Was carrying emergency bitcoin shutoff code.  Chinese government plans to use code to shutdown bitcoin network.  Satoshi charged with criminal economic disruption.


Coindesk is getting ready to publish an article corroborating this news from internal sources.  This is the end guys.

Wow, I almost forgot the credibility of your information and your predictions.

It looks like this is the end of bitcoin.  If you can sell and get your money out, you probably should.  Quarkcoin is probably a safe investment for now.

So, how is your Quarkcoin investment?  Mooned yet?
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September 08, 2020, 03:49:06 PM

Hello WO Guys !!! Here's an update from ChartsBTC


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OT: Tesla lovers doubling down by buying more TSLA stock...

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September 08, 2020, 04:28:12 PM

Stocks are supposed to represent the value of companies, on the basis of future earnings. Tesla bulls explained the current bull run, including predictions like 50000$ a share (before split) by the fact Tesla was innovative, has earned some money (after having burned billions upon billions) etc. So how come the price is crashing ? Doesn't compute.

I think Tesla can do fine, however this speculative bubble might do more harm than good to the company.
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We hit the top of this channel which I shared earlier, and got a rejection, could go lower to my buyzone now

Sure, anything could happen.. up, down or sideways.

9-10 pathetic bear attempts to go below 10K. Are there any extremely weak hands to try one more time?



What do you mean by "one more time"?

Maybe we are going to get stuck here for a few more weeks?

I have my doubts about getting stuck in this particular zone for much longer because this price floating around $10k feels a bit uncomfortable (or is the word unsustainable?).. and what is going on in shitcoinlandia?  Isn't that continuing to have some affect on BTC's ability to stay in one place?  and the macro environment, seems to have some nervousness, too...

I know bitcoin likely does not give too many shit about these various macro-factors, but in the short term, seems difficult to sustain any kind of flatness, even if we never know for sure regarding how long are we going to be here in the $10k range.... in bitcoinlandia.


Who sold at the bottom?

Which one? 🤔🤔

As I type, do we either have a triple or a quadruple bottom, or maybe we have to make up some other kind of visual because these bottoms are starting to blend.

Maybe we have a blended bottom, currently?

It's messy out there boyz... be careful:




Now back to 9300 ?

Lots of hopium in that one.

2017 high ~$20,000
2018 high ~$17,000
2019 high ~$14,000
2020 high ~$12,000

Up, up, and...oh wait...

Never thought of it like that.

It's not looking good, boyz.    Cry Cry Cry
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September 08, 2020, 05:44:33 PM

The year isn't over, but bitcoin is. As you can see, we've been trending down towards $10k and it's increasingly evident that isn't any kind of good support. Once enough of the market accepts what's already confirmed, the dam will break and we'll continue our market back down toward $1,000, and then, of course, below that.

Is the year 2013 over yet?

Satoshi Nakamoto located and apprehended by Chinese government.  Was carrying emergency bitcoin shutoff code.  Chinese government plans to use code to shutdown bitcoin network.  Satoshi charged with criminal economic disruption.


Coindesk is getting ready to publish an article corroborating this news from internal sources.  This is the end guys.

Wow, I almost forgot the credibility of your information and your predictions.

It looks like this is the end of bitcoin.  If you can sell and get your money out, you probably should.  Quarkcoin is probably a safe investment for now.

So, how is your Quarkcoin investment?  Mooned yet?

Fake news. The true news is bitcoin is crashing.
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Fake news. The true news is bitcoin is crashing.

Proudhonk, you consider drastic bitcoin price movements as news to WO?
Interesting...

And so my ignore list is growing again.
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September 08, 2020, 06:09:17 PM

That's why I chuckle when people are saying things like "New ATH by this December!" Sorry but, no way. That's not how whale traders work, that's not how this market works. You think the whales would care to run it up during a recession/depression year, when people are massively out of work and don't have any extra money to spend right now? Nope. They will wait until the economy recovers, when people have extra money again. Also, the volume is just not there yet, not even close. The ramp up will take a year or two anyway to get going.

Sure macro factors could have some kind of an affect on bitcoin, but i doubt that bitcoin needs retail to be ready, willing and able to buy bitcoin in order for our next ATH to be reached and exceeded.

Yeah, it's possible that the end of the year might be a bit too soon, but in bitcoinlandia, there can be a bit of relishing in doing the unexpected too, which causes shorts to continue to get rekkt when they continue to get placed, while the BTC price keeps going up.. Are we ready for such a move?  i don't know... but I surely would not be ruling out such a move, merely based on some kind of concern that macro-factors are not ready... People are not ready.. wait bitcoin, wait.... Bitcoin gives no shits about waiting, and small enough players can end up pushing bitcoin up, even if people (retail or whatever) are not ready... In other words, they become ready as they see the price going up from $40k to $100k, and then they start buying, right before the dump (or maybe more PC to call it a correction?). 

Do we end up correcting in the vicinity of $100k or $300k or some other location? and how long does it take to get to the point that correction ends up happening can frequently end up as somewhat surprises, even though such BTC price moves are still within a variety of relatively convincing and already known BTC price prediction models... the specifics are merely probabilities rather than precisions -even if some folks misinterpret them in such precision ways.
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September 08, 2020, 06:18:18 PM

I have my doubts about getting stuck in this particular zone for much longer because this price floating around $10k feels a bit uncomfortable (or is the word unsustainable?).. [...]

I know bitcoin likely does not give too many shit about these various macro-factors, but in the short term, seems difficult to sustain any kind of flatness, even if we never know for sure regarding how long are we going to be here in the $10k range.... in bitcoinlandia.

I’ll be a contrarian here.  Partly to play devil’s advocate and pick your brain; this is a mere hypothesis:

$10k is a neat Schelling point:  It is comfortable.  I myself have long taken to thinking of a bitcoin as “more or less worth somewhere around $10k”—or more precisely, I tend to think of a U.S. dollar as currently being worth about 0.0001 BTC, more or less.  It is convenient because I am not a speculator, or even really an investor; my HODLings are my “savings account”, and I think of Bitcoin as money more than as an impliedly non-monetary asset.  How many others think somewhat similarly?  It’s a nice round number; it makes for easy mental calculations when carrying on financial transactions with people who still use dollars as a unit of account (!).

Thereupon, if some market factors are pushing the price up, and others are pushing down, and many people are setting walls of limit orders either just above or just below $10k, then why wouldn’t the price sustain this kind of flatness for awhile?  Is it not to be expected to converge around these major milestones before it eventually diverges?

I do think that the long-term trend is up, way up—just because supply is capped, and demand growth has barely even started toward its long-term potential.  It will be some years before Bitcoin even remotely approaches saturation on the demand side!  (Add to this the necessary compensation for depreciation of the dollar, Euro, etc.)  So, at some point, we will need to break out and go far above $10k.

I also think that too-rapid increases driven by pure speculation are not good.  That is the definition of a bubble.  I do not want another November–December 2017 scenario.  I am not watching the ticker and asking, “When moon?”  I want to see a new ATH driven by increased adoption and usage as money—not by FOMO, irrational exuberance, etc.  I want that, because I want for my bitcoins to have rock-solid fundamental value.  Of course, at this juncture, increased adoption driven by loss of confidence in fiat currencies would not be a bad thing...

Too much speculation also increases volatility, which slows adoption—which detracts from Bitcoin’s fundamental value!

Thus, I don’t see the $10k range as “uncomfortable”.  As long as it has stable support there, I am happy for the time being.



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Fake news. The true news is bitcoin is crashing.

Why are you accusing me of “fake news” for reminding others of your fake news (and past shitcoin pumpings)?

This is the end guys.
It looks like this is the end of bitcoin.
The true news is bitcoin is crashing.
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September 08, 2020, 07:02:04 PM

OT: Watch the video. More comedy gold.

https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/1303334057615523840

“The key to this market is Portnoy’s next move”  Cheesy Cheesy You can't make this shit up.

I can't even believe that ol' Jim C. uttered the words "Tesla" and "fundamentals" in the same sentence.  Roll Eyes
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I also think that too-rapid increases driven by pure speculation are not good.  That is the definition of a bubble.  I do not want another November–December 2017 scenario.  I am not watching the ticker and asking, “When moon?”  I want to see a new ATH driven by increased adoption and usage as money—not by FOMO, irrational exuberance, etc. ...

  I think the huge hype and price bubbles help to drive awareness and adoption.  I greatly enjoy the euphoria that comes with it too!  Not so much the back side of the peaks, but that is a lot easier to bear after a few rounds. There is actual data to research on past cycles now, for those that choose to dyor.

The question is, does it follow the usual pattern, or will this time be more influenced by the greater economy?
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