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[ivomm]

Bitmex shorter spotted

The barting has stopped since they got collared.

Yep! The shorts on various exchanges are hitting yearly lows both in volume and percentage. Usually the FUD is their weapon, but not this time! Now they feel the fear that there are not enough shorters to try manipulating the spot exchanges. This is just the beginning of the bull Q4 of 2020!    

[DaRude]

In France since the very beginning of the pandemic evangelical gatherings have been superspreader events. Again one the other day. I propose nuking all evangelicals. Seem pretty well correlated in the US, South Korea, and Brazil, too.

PCR test is utterly meaningless as a public health tool, which drives all these counts if take cases.  
The cycle count is completely ignored.
You can test positive from a flu you had 10 years ago.
Moreover, covid-19 has never been specifically identified, and we don't know what they are comparing against
It's a hoax within a hoax within a hoax.

Lose the mask an social distancing.
Refuse to comply!

Asymtomatic spread of covid is a myth to scare and control the public.


https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/06/23/who-says-covid-19-asymptomatic-transmission-is-rare.aspx

Russian ambulance drivers are also in on this hoax?!?

Hold on gotta call my wife at the hospital who's putting people on ventilators and tell her that they're all faking it. Idiots get ignored....

Edit: How about you loose the mask and let Darwin do his work?

[dragonvslinux]

https://blockstream.info/tx/30aac0c2fd89bce5299344d2f1d8ed2aea5ebe03b662c96fc2d7b70515f238e6?output:0


1000 BTC freshly mined in 2010 moved 165 blocks ago.

...to seg wit addresses in order to split the 50s into 10s as well as to have one 200 btc account. Smart move, better security?
https://blockstream.info/address/35DRQxCBMBe3Erbcue791t89JVB2VwsJi4

[strawbs]

Dying bear, fearful,
cold, alone, gazes sadly
at the rising moon

(I tried to make that
a little more bucolic
JimboToronto)

a day late

[nullius]

Hmmm, it looks like a Bible-quoting evangelical got #triggered.

In France since the very beginning of the pandemic evangelical gatherings have been superspreader events. Again one the other day. I propose nuking all evangelicals. Seem pretty well correlated in the US, South Korea, and Brazil, too.

PCR test is utterly meaningless as a public health tool, which drives all these counts if take cases.  
The cycle count is completely ignored.
You can test positive from a flu you had 10 years ago.

What you say is difficult to parse, but I think that you are confusing PCR with antibody reactivity.

Polymerase chain reaction (PCR) amplifies DNA or (in this case) RNA, so a PCR test checks for the presence of specific genetic material.

How could PCR give a false positive based on “flu you had 10 years ago”?  Maybe an antibody test could, if flu and Covid have cross-immunity; but you are talking about PCR, which identifies a specific virus present in the body right now.

Moreover, covid-19 has never been specifically identified, and we don't know what they are comparing against
It's a hoax within a hoax within a hoax.

How could PCR be used at all, with a virus that “has never been specifically identified”?  What PCR does is specifically to identify (or rather, to amplify small amounts of things so they can be identified). /logic

Whereas that thing you allege to be unidentified has been sequenced in multiple distinct strains.  You can play with genomic sequence data on AWS, or download genomic datasets.  Never identified?



(Edit:  inb4 anyone accuses me of being on USG payroll because I linked to something dot-gov.)

Lose the mask an social distancing.
Refuse to comply!

Asymtomatic spread of covid is a myth to scare and control the public.

If asymptomatic spread of Covid occurs, that would be a sign of it being a peculiarly non-scary plague.

“ZOMG!  You may never even know that you have it when you pass it to your elderly parents/grandparents, and accidentally kill them.”

OK, so isolate old people and sick people.  Everybody else can basically keep functioning.  No lockdowns, no panic.  No need to reduce ourselves to starving animals in cages.

That is not exactly the Black Death.

As I have been saying for the past seven months (boldface in the original; self-quoted by me multiple times in WO):

Between the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, I fear Famine.  I do not fear Plague (at least, not in this instance).  I do fear War.  I have never feared Death; and I do not intend to start now.

The real problem is simpletons with absolutely binary thinking:  Either Covid must be treated as the new Black Death, or Covid does not exist.  How about some nuance and rationality?

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/06/23/who-says-covid-19-asymptomatic-transmission-is-rare.aspx

WTF, is Mercola shadowbanning Tor?  I get this from multiple exits, and again after waiting awhile:


Nice shopping basket.

WTF?  Is Mercola blocking Archive.org (which is the usual cause of these messages), or is Archive.org censoring Covid discussion (a disturbing pattern nowadays)?  The passive voice gives no hint.

[degxtra1]

Russian ambulance drivers are also in on this hoax?!?

Hold on gotta call my wife at the hospital who's putting people on ventilators and tell her that they're all faking it. Idiots get ignored....

Edit: How about you loose the mask and let Darwin do his work?

There are only two options: better one  for you is simply you are an idiot.

Worst - you are just paid shill.

swprs.org
off-guardian.org

#lockdownsceptics

[El duderino_]

Corn pumping again!
Have seen this before, please now
the eternal pump.

[cAPSLOCK]

Russian ambulance drivers are also in on this hoax?!?

Hold on gotta call my wife at the hospital who's putting people on ventilators and tell her that they're all faking it. Idiots get ignored....

Edit: How about you loose the mask and let Darwin do his work?

There are only two options: better one  for you is simply you are an idiot.

Worst - you are just paid shill.

swprs.org
off-guardian.org

#lockdownsceptics

DaRude is right though... sort of.

I also work for a hospital system.  Part of my job is specifically analyzing admission data, and for the last several months I have been particularly involved with analyzing the COVID admissions.

FACT: It is killing people
FACT: It is extraordinarily contagious
FACT: We now know that it has a very high survival rate in almost all populations.

The trick with Covid is it is so contagious that just about all of us are going to get it.  And that means that <1% who it kills?  There are a lot of them.

The original idea was to "flatten the curve".  And we did that all over the world.

I also believe it is now being used as a political tool, and to control the masses.  So that is why I say "sort of" up there.

But between people who call it a hoax, and people who overact to it a little?  The first set are the idiots.

[nullius]

FTFY:

But between people who call it a hoax, and people who overact to it a little with insane panic?  The first set are the idiots.

Why not both?

The real problem is simpletons with absolutely binary thinking:  Either Covid must be treated as the new Black Death, or Covid does not exist.  How about some nuance and rationality?

P.S.,

The trick with Covid is it is so contagious that just about all of us are going to get it.  And that means that <1% who it kills?  There are a lot of them.

That hearkens back to my own first public statement on Covid.  Guess what, 100.0% of humans die—and as you yourself noted, people are going to get Covid anyway.

Obsessive fear of Death destroys life, especially if it parlays a not-very-scary Plague into very-scary Famine.  And/or War.

Dear readers of the forum:

Some of you will die from the coronavirus.  (—Some few of you:  The virus has low lethality except to the aged or otherwise frail.)  The virus may kill me, too; maybe, maybe not.  That is acceptable:  Life is risk, and death is a part of life.  My only sadness is that sometimes, the worst befalls the best of people.

What is unacceptable is panic, bureaucratic “do something!” tyranny, and worst of all, hybris.

I hereby use an archaic spelling for the subject of a principle long forgot.

[philipma1957]

FTFY:

But between people who call it a hoax, and people who overact to it a little with insane panic?  The first set are the idiots.

Why not both?

The real problem is simpletons with absolutely binary thinking:  Either Covid must be treated as the new Black Death, or Covid does not exist.  How about some nuance and rationality?

P.S.,

The trick with Covid is it is so contagious that just about all of us are going to get it.  And that means that <1% who it kills?  There are a lot of them.

That hearkens back to my own first public statement on Covid.  Guess what, 100.0% of humans die—and as you yourself noted, people are going to get Covid anyway.

Obsessive fear of Death destroys life, especially if it parlays a not-very-scary Plague into very-scary Famine.  And/or War.

Dear readers of the forum:

Some of you will die from the coronavirus.  (—Some few of you:  The virus has low lethality except to the aged or otherwise frail.)  The virus may kill me, too; maybe, maybe not.  That is acceptable:  Life is risk, and death is a part of life.  My only sadness is that sometimes, the worst befalls the best of people.

What is unacceptable is panic, bureaucratic “do something!” tyranny, and worst of all, hybris.

I hereby use an archaic spelling for the subject of a principle long forgot.

The only difference between using a six shooter then playing Russian roulette with it and going to parties and bars is the math.

1 in 6 vs   1 in 100000 if you are young and truly healthy.

Most won't play the 1 in 6 game and right now too many play the 1 in 100,000 game.

In a years time there will be treatments for it that are not vaccines. Regeneron comes to mind. So why not play it safe for a while.

Now this is a 63 year old typing  not a 28 year old.

[lightfoot]

Meantime this is a pretty good compilation of modern conspiracies. Where do we fall on this spectrum?

(Hint: I hit the "Hollow Earth" level myself)

[yefi]

Meantime this is a pretty good compilation of modern conspiracies. Where do we fall on this spectrum?

(Hint: I hit the "Hollow Earth" level myself)

Interesting that they consider Covid being made in a lab as a lower probability than Elvis still being alive.

[Hueristic]

Meantime this is a pretty good compilation of modern conspiracies. Where do we fall on this spectrum?

(Hint: I hit the "Hollow Earth" level myself)

Interesting that they consider Covid being made in a lab as a lower probability than Elvis still being alive.

That was surely worded poorly, Should be Covid doesn't exist.

[vapourminer]

Meantime this is a pretty good compilation of modern conspiracies. Where do we fall on this spectrum?

(Hint: I hit the "Hollow Earth" level myself)

ive been trying my best to leave reality but the damn thing keeps catching up with me.

[bitserve]

The trick with Covid is it is so contagious that just about all of us are going to get it.  And that means that <1% who it kills?  There are a lot of them.

That hearkens back to my own first public statement on Covid.  Guess what, 100.0% of humans die—and as you yourself noted, people are going to get Covid anyway.

Obsessive fear of Death destroys life, especially if it parlays a not-very-scary Plague into very-scary Famine.  And/or War.

Dear readers of the forum:

Some of you will die from the coronavirus.  (—Some few of you:  The virus has low lethality except to the aged or otherwise frail.)  The virus may kill me, too; maybe, maybe not.  That is acceptable:  Life is risk, and death is a part of life.  My only sadness is that sometimes, the worst befalls the best of people.

What is unacceptable is panic, bureaucratic “do something!” tyranny, and worst of all, hybris.

I hereby use an archaic spelling for the subject of a principle long forgot.

The biggest problem is not the death rate even if it is not negligible. 1% average with older people amounting to most of it is maybe not something that scary (I always say that this covid thing basically doubles your particular yearly chances to die IF and WHEN you get infected). The real issue is that we do rely on things like the medical service which can (and have temporarily been) be overwhelmed if too many people get infected at the same time.

So... if some people can't wait for a vaccine or better treatment to reduce those rates... maybe we could ask they be considerate enough to TRY to delay their individual infection (and probability of needing treatment plus risk of infecting others) so that it is not that much of burden?

We can cope with a 1% additional mortality rate spread over a few years. Certainly we are not prepared to cope with it if it happens in a much shorter timeframe (ie a few months). Not without paying a big price.

I think of myself to be in a somewhat middle position between deniers and panickers but I still do think some measures like masks, social distancing and common sense are not that much to ask to avoid making this a bigger issue than it would need to be.

We are all going to die... eventually. Just try to maintain some order in the queue and wait for your turn. Don't rush it.

[infofront]

Meantime this is a pretty good compilation of modern conspiracies. Where do we fall on this spectrum?

(Hint: I hit the "Hollow Earth" level myself)

Interesting that they consider Covid being made in a lab as a lower probability than Elvis still being alive.

Yeah, I thought that it was basically the consensus that it was made in a lab.

[nullius]

Meantime this is a pretty good compilation of modern conspiracies. Where do we fall on this spectrum?

(Hint: I hit the "Hollow Earth" level myself)

What is this “we” of which you speak?  As for myself, I am at the point of “Abbie Richards is a virtue-signalling dupe (probably, and at best).”

Bottom, “things that actually happened”:  Mostly things that the U.S. government officially admitted.  Mostly things deemed baneful by the Left, for one reason or another.  So—if the U.S. government said so, and said so very loudly in the Congressional Record, then you have permission to say that it “actually happened”.

Top two tiers:  A few unpleasant realities that Miss Richards dislikes hearing about, mixed with a ton of arrant nonsense for the purpose of guilt by association.  I am surprised that I do not see the Federal Reserve^* up there.

Ridiculous, and oh so telling:  Miss Richards places “UFOs”, “Roswell”, and “Area 51” in the acceptable “we have questions” tier, and “alien abductions” in the “mostly harmless” tier, whilst consigning a few things that are actually well-evidenced to the “dangerous” or “get help” tiers.  Whoops!  What a way for Miss Richards to rationalize her own superstitions.

Although I am uninterested in arguing any of that, I must amuse myself:

Nazis on the moon

Not quite, but it is an undisputed historical fact that Nazis put Americans on the moon!

Of course, that is not a “conspiracy” as such.  Just a bit of history that most people nowadays would prefer to forget.

* I do caution researchers of the Federal Reserve to beware that one of the well-known authors on the subject privately admitted that he just made stuff up, whenever that seemed strategically advantageous to him.  Of course, what he actually achieved was to poison the well for everybody else.  I don’t say this to be politically correct; my source on that was himself quite extremely “incorrect”, but was pedantic about facts.  Caveat lector.

[JayJuanGee]

https://blockstream.info/tx/30aac0c2fd89bce5299344d2f1d8ed2aea5ebe03b662c96fc2d7b70515f238e6?output:0


1000 BTC freshly mined in 2010 moved 165 blocks ago.

What does it mean, bitebits?

That's even better than a pee pic.  

Is this, Gentlemen?

Nope only after i'll break even over $20k

Oh my DaRude!!!     

Tell me it is not so.

I thought there could hardly be anyone who has an actual average cost per BTC that is anywhere near $20k, unless s/he/it happens to be a pretty bad gambler, or someone who employs margin.

Anyone who actually accumulates BTC by using regular methods (no leverage), should not have average costs anywhere near $20k, right?  AmInotKoreck?

[Toxic2040]

[lightfoot]

Meantime this is a pretty good compilation of modern conspiracies. Where do we fall on this spectrum?

(Hint: I hit the "Hollow Earth" level myself)

Interesting that they consider Covid being made in a lab as a lower probability than Elvis still being alive.

Yeah, I thought that it was basically the consensus that it was made in a lab.

Elvis being made in a lab? Yeah that's more plausible.