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June 25, 2012, 11:50:34 PM
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I haven't had the same issue.

But you also have to watch the total pool hashrate.  As the total goes up, your reward for a block will go down.

For example I might get an average of about .1 btc per round when the total pool hashrate is around 1100 ghash, but when it goes up to 1400ghash, my average per round will go down to between .08 and .09 btc.  The plus side to this is as the total pool hashrate goes up, the pool luck tends to go up and we have more blocks found.  So your total reward will tend to even out.

The length of the round only matters in rounds generally under ten minutes.  That is a result of pool hoppers, and Slush is working on fixing that.

I think you're getting a bit mixed up here. If the total hashrate goes up, everyone gets paid less since there are more miners. But this isn't pool hopping. If the hashrate stays high and the strategic miners don't leave, you'll still end up with proportionally less because it's being divided by more miners.



If you read carefully, that is basically exactly what I said.

At the end I added a side note about short rounds.  Short rounds payout less because pool hoppers are taking more than their fare share.  Maybe I should have been more clear?


No, perhaps I should have read more slowly, and not just the first part of the first paragraph and the last part of the second paragraph Wink


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June 26, 2012, 12:08:04 AM
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Are you sure your not just seeing lower payout due to higher difficulty?
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June 27, 2012, 02:34:05 PM
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Hi, I think this might be some kind of issue:

I don't mine 24/7, maybe 5-6 hours a day (uninterrumpted). Usually I'd get like 0.01xxx btc reward for one 1/2 hour for reward, but lately, it doesn't matter if I mine 4 hours straight, I won't get any reward. Even though the estimated reward for currend round is at 0.01xxx. Am I mining only when the pool is having bad luck? Am I doing something wrong? I switched to btc guild because I wouldnt get anything. After a few days mining at btcguild I wanted to switch back to slush, but it looks like I am not getting anything again. What is happening? Is there something I don't know?

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June 29, 2012, 05:58:22 AM
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I'm curious as to why we are stuck on 'processing' for the past 5 blocks (at this time anyhow) and even fully confirmed blocks haven't been crediting to 'confirmed reward'. I know that block explorer was down earlier (and is again now) but it was up for an hour between then and now. Is there a separate portion of that which the pool accesses for confirmation information that was unavailable right through? am I mis-remembering where the information is pulled from? or is it some other reason? Not overly worried here, just wondering.

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June 30, 2012, 02:41:52 PM
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Pool down ?
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June 30, 2012, 02:49:17 PM
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Everything running smooth here.

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June 30, 2012, 03:58:50 PM
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It went down for a couple of minutes but it's working again

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July 02, 2012, 09:04:22 PM
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Any news on DGM? I just noticed again today that my payouts sometimes vary between 0.14 BTC (34 min) and 0.01 BTC per round (4 min) with the same hashrate.

This is quite extreme.

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July 02, 2012, 09:07:01 PM
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May I ask what DGM is?
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July 02, 2012, 09:50:06 PM
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Any news on DGM? I just noticed again today that my payouts sometimes vary between 0.14 BTC (34 min) and 0.01 BTC per round (4 min) with the same hashrate.

This is quite extreme.

Just goes to show some people are NEVER satisfied / content with what they have been given for FREE ...

Good job slush. +1
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July 02, 2012, 11:20:14 PM
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Any news on DGM? I just noticed again today that my payouts sometimes vary between 0.14 BTC (34 min) and 0.01 BTC per round (4 min) with the same hashrate.

This is quite extreme.

Just goes to show some people are NEVER satisfied / content with what they have been given for FREE ...

Good job slush. +1
Ahem. 2% or so, not free.

May I ask what DGM is?
DGM stands for Double Geometric Mean, and it is a payout scoring method. Other pools that use it already include Ozcoin.net and Eclipsemc.com. It is considered a "fair" payout method in that it cannot be cheated like other methods can be.

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July 02, 2012, 11:22:19 PM
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DGM stands for Double Geometric Mean, and it is a payout scoring method. Other pools that use it already include Ozcoin.net and Eclipsemc.com. It is considered a "fair" payout method in that it cannot be cheated like other methods can be.

Oh, thank you.
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July 02, 2012, 11:29:48 PM
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A link for you: Double geometric method: Hopping-proof, low-variance reward system.

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July 02, 2012, 11:34:53 PM
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Thank you as well. I fought to read through the first part, very hard for me to pay attention and then I seen the mathematical that I would never understand.

I'll take your guy's word that it is something good for the pool and miners to basically stop pool hoppers Smiley.
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July 03, 2012, 12:23:12 AM
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Just because I'm asking if there is any progress doesn't mean I'm not content. I'm mining here for more than a year already, except for a few weeks at BTC Guild maybe (don't like how they handle NMC payouts).

It's just that I've never seen such a high range between my smallest and biggest payouts in all that time is all...

(Except if my cards have been running as half-borked 5870s during that 4 min round that is  Grin )

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July 03, 2012, 12:35:58 AM
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Just because I'm asking if there is any progress doesn't mean I'm not content. I'm mining here for more than a year already, except for a few weeks at BTC Guild maybe (don't like how they handle NMC payouts).

It's just that I've never seen such a high range between my smallest and biggest payouts in all that time is all...

(Except if my cards have been running as half-borked 5870s during that 4 min round that is  Grin )

If we are talking about the same thing, I made a post about it recently.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.msg989652#msg989652
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July 03, 2012, 11:04:19 PM
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How can I merge mining for other coins in your pool?

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July 07, 2012, 10:10:17 PM
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Hello all, I had a holiday in recent days so I was only on mobile Internet connection for pool maintenance. That's the reason why I didn't respond for forum posts here (data roaming is awfuly overpriced!).

About pool downtime - OVH had global downtime for around 30 minutes few days back. There was nothing to do on my side, but pool recovered by self when they renew network connection.

About lowering block rewards - there was some additional hashrate in previous days, probably because technical difficulties on another pools. That was surely the reason why your block rewards went down, but (statistically) the block rate was faster than before.

About DGM - it's damned project and I won't comment it more otherwise I'll go crazy again. I really needed that vacation and hopefully I'll be more succesfull now...

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July 07, 2012, 10:11:46 PM
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How can I merge mining for other coins in your pool?

It's not possible use merged mining on top of share based pools (afaik all current pools are share based). If you want to merge mine some exotic currency, everything you really can do is to setup solo mining on your own.

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July 08, 2012, 09:07:28 AM
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It will definitely become a much more exclusive club to mine at Slush's pool. Asic owners only. The difficulty is skyrocketing, and only a few months until the reward drop. I've moved some of my hashing power over to mine Litecoins. Multiple times more efficient for GPU miners for the moment.

Edit: Not grumpy at all, just telling you the show is over for now. Moving along.

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