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July 08, 2012, 09:40:44 AM
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It will definitely become a much more exclusive club to mine at Slush's pool. Asic owners only. The difficulty is skyrocketing, and only a few months until the reward drop. I've moved some of my hashing power over to mine Litecoins. Multiple times more efficient for GPU miners for the moment.
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no point getting grumpy at poolops, we didnt ask for asic but are expected to upgrade to cope with them....
it is not currently possible to merge mine sha256 (bitcoin/namecoin) and scrypt (litecoin).
 

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July 09, 2012, 03:26:45 AM
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Thanks for your reply.

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July 10, 2012, 11:21:29 AM
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I finally got around to making miner variance insurance available to Slush's pool. It will be listed on GLBSE soon, but in the meantime more details are here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=92531.0

It essentially pays you PPS for a fee that will be about 2%, via a "bond" on GLBSE, so no more worries about long rounds.

If there's anything you don't follow, please pm me or post.

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July 14, 2012, 12:19:23 PM
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Finally, Pay-Per-Share is available for Slush's pool. Slush's score system means more variance than at most, but you can get a PPS reward for a 2% fee without leaving the pool and risking an operator that you might not like.

Details: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=92531.msg1020745#msg1020745

GLBSE link: https://glbse.com/asset/view/MEI.SLUSH.B

100 bonds will insure approximately 1.335 Mhps in a 1:1 ratio (this will vary slightly depending on the Difficulty change).


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July 19, 2012, 02:51:44 PM
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Thanks to report of user runner, I found that pool mined one block and for some reason it has not been stored into pool database. The possible reason is that it happen during database upgrade, but unfortunately the logs are rotated already, so I don't have any more info about it.

Because there's not any round related to this block, I decided to double block reward in the latest pool round #13087. I believe that it's the best solution of such problem, because nobody has been noticed in advance that reward for this block will be higher.

This message is also an explanation why you see much higher block reward than normally.

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July 20, 2012, 03:50:03 PM
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Three invalids in one day? Is this another problem with the database as has happened in the past?
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July 21, 2012, 03:37:03 AM
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Slush, the pool page is nice for checking if all miners we have are working without logging to their hosts. But it would be much better to have also the current hash rate displayed [calculated based on the current round not the last 10 rounds, which can take a day], especially if the mining farm is unstable. I know that this estimation will be very poor at the beginning of the round so maybe at least the last round only could be used for this. I can calculate it myself by taking my shares/score and the pools shares/score form the other page and divide and multiply but this is time consuming :-) can we have this displayed on the MyAccount page in the Workers section maybe in parentheses after the 10-round based estimation ? I would greatly appreciate this :-)

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Slush, the pool page is nice for checking if all miners we have are working without logging to their hosts. But it would be much better to have also the current hash rate displayed [calculated based on the current round not the last 10 rounds, which can take a day], especially if the mining farm is unstable. I know that this estimation will be very poor at the beginning of the round so maybe at least the last round only could be used for this. I can calculate it myself by taking my shares/score and the pools shares/score form the other page and divide and multiply but this is time consuming :-) can we have this displayed on the MyAccount page in the Workers section maybe in parentheses after the 10-round based estimation ? I would greatly appreciate this :-)

The hashrate updates have been asked over a year go already. Except for the nice translations, I'm sorry to say but this pool is pretty much dead. I wouldn't say it if I didn't cared about it. The pool is still hoppable, and very much hopped every day, DGM is probably never going to appear because one programmer may just be not enough for such a project, the pool has been underperforming for the longest time (you see next to never that 30day average is 99%+ or more), and namecoins (not Slush's fault) are about dead because its purpose is undermined: 3-5 people have "squatted" all the domains, and namecoin price is just plummeting, even though we mine them less and less due to rising diff.

Slush, if you still want to be in the game when Asics hit, you should get your act together and update some more things than just a fanboy page (Facebook). I'm still mining here with three cards, but when my internet connection fails, as it does sometimes, it will be much better for me to be on a PPS pool like BTCGuild for the occasional mining. The rest of my cards have moved over to LTC mining. Much higher profit.

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July 22, 2012, 01:47:05 AM
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Slush, the pool page is nice for checking if all miners we have are working without logging to their hosts. But it would be much better to have also the current hash rate displayed [calculated based on the current round not the last 10 rounds, which can take a day], especially if the mining farm is unstable. I know that this estimation will be very poor at the beginning of the round so maybe at least the last round only could be used for this. I can calculate it myself by taking my shares/score and the pools shares/score form the other page and divide and multiply but this is time consuming :-) can we have this displayed on the MyAccount page in the Workers section maybe in parentheses after the 10-round based estimation ? I would greatly appreciate this :-)

The hashrate updates have been asked over a year go already. Except for the nice translations, I'm sorry to say but this pool is pretty much dead. I wouldn't say it if I didn't cared about it. The pool is still hoppable, and very much hopped every day, DGM is probably never going to appear because one programmer may just be not enough for such a project, the pool has been underperforming for the longest time (you see next to never that 30day average is 99%+ or more), and namecoins (not Slush's fault) are about dead because its purpose is undermined: 3-5 people have "squatted" all the domains, and namecoin price is just plummeting, even though we mine them less and less due to rising diff.

Slush, if you still want to be in the game when Asics hit, you should get your act together and update some more things than just a fanboy page (Facebook). I'm still mining here with three cards, but when my internet connection fails, as it does sometimes, it will be much better for me to be on a PPS pool like BTCGuild for the occasional mining. The rest of my cards have moved over to LTC mining. Much higher profit.

I always wondered why while Slush's pool and Oz's pool always had similar hash rates Oz always had much better luck, usually twice the luck or more. Not as easy to compare right now as Oz has consistently high hash rates now, I asssume because of the better luck.
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July 22, 2012, 09:41:14 AM
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I always wondered why while Slush's pool and Oz's pool always had similar hash rates Oz always had much better luck, usually twice the luck or more. Not as easy to compare right now as Oz has consistently high hash rates now, I asssume because of the better luck.

That's not even close to the truth: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77000.msg855078#msg855078 . Luck hasn't been significantly better for either pool compared to the other for any length of time.

Anyway, how are you defining luck? Unless you mean round length / D? In which case you mean Ozcoin had half the round length on average. Or do you mean number of blocks mined compared to number of blocks expected?

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July 22, 2012, 07:43:33 PM
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I always wondered why while Slush's pool and Oz's pool always had similar hash rates Oz always had much better luck, usually twice the luck or more. Not as easy to compare right now as Oz has consistently high hash rates now, I asssume because of the better luck.

That's not even close to the truth: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77000.msg855078#msg855078 . Luck hasn't been significantly better for either pool compared to the other for any length of time.

Anyway, how are you defining luck? Unless you mean round length / D? In which case you mean Ozcoin had half the round length on average. Or do you mean number of blocks mined compared to number of blocks expected?

Thats an interesting chart, especially the % of orphans when looking at Oz compared to Slush...or many other pools.

My statement of opinion above is based on the number of blocks waiting to be confirmed at any given time. For example as of now Oz has 9 blocks on confirmation while Slush has 6. And as I said in my previous post, current stats aren't accurate as Oz has a consistently higher hash. This is just my observations from mining at both for awhile.
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My statement of opinion above is based on the number of blocks waiting to be confirmed at any given time. For example as of now Oz has 9 blocks on confirmation while Slush has 6. And as I said in my previous post, current stats aren't accurate as Oz has a consistently higher hash. This is just my observations from mining at both for awhile.

You don't suppose the fact that Ozcoin requires 120 confirmations and Slush requires only 100 confirmations might account for perhaps 1/6 of the difference there? Which narrows the difference between 9 confirming and 6 confirming a fair bit, or were you simply unaware of that difference?

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My statement of opinion above is based on the number of blocks waiting to be confirmed at any given time. For example as of now Oz has 9 blocks on confirmation while Slush has 6. And as I said in my previous post, current stats aren't accurate as Oz has a consistently higher hash. This is just my observations from mining at both for awhile.

You don't suppose the fact that Ozcoin requires 120 confirmations and Slush requires only 100 confirmations might account for perhaps 1/6 of the difference there? Which narrows the difference between 9 confirming and 6 confirming a fair bit, or were you simply unaware of that difference?

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It does, but as the current difference is 6 to 16 even the 20 extra confirms doesn't make me feel better about Slush. This is all relative as Oz has a higher hash rate right now.
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My statement of opinion above is based on the number of blocks waiting to be confirmed at any given time. For example as of now Oz has 9 blocks on confirmation while Slush has 6. And as I said in my previous post, current stats aren't accurate as Oz has a consistently higher hash. This is just my observations from mining at both for awhile.

I see. Unfortunately you're looking at a short term difference there. I'd only be confortable saying there's a significant difference between pools if I had a significant number of observations which I could compare. A second problem is defining the luck. This can be done by comparing the pool's hashrate and blocks found to the networks' hashrate and blocks found. If it is greater than expected, you're lucky. Or you can compare total round shares / Difficulty. Once you've determined how you define you're luck, you can figure out how many observations you need to compare the pools. Or compare results for each pool to the expected population results.

See the last two sets of charts at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77000.msg855078#msg855078 for these two types of luck measurement.

You don't suppose the fact that Ozcoin requires 120 confirmations and Slush requires only 100 confirmations might account for perhaps 1/6 of the difference there? Which narrows the difference between 9 confirming and 6 confirming a fair bit, or were you simply unaware of that difference?

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It does, but as the current difference is 6 to 16 even the 20 extra confirms doesn't make me feel better about Slush. This is all relative as Oz has a higher hash rate right now.

Using confirming blocks is not a robust measurement of luck. But if you want to do this, you'll need to take into account the pools' % of network hashrate as well as the number of confirms until valid.

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July 24, 2012, 07:11:41 AM
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Some short term unluckiness might take forever to recover. Today the pool had back to back 9hr and 8h45m rounds. Both of these are 99.3+ on the CDF.

What are the chances of that? 1/20,000?
The only good news was the next 2 rounds were short making the average about 4.5hrs for 4 rounds.
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July 24, 2012, 09:34:25 PM
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Three invalids in one day? Is this another problem with the database as has happened in the past?

No, it's just unbelievable luck. You can see that all broadcasted blocks are valid, we just lose the fight in bitcoin network, unfortunately.

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July 25, 2012, 05:43:32 AM
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Hello, I'm having trouble connecting to the pool using my current .bat on cgminer.

cgminer -o http://api2.bitcoin.cz:8332 -u myworker.namehere -p MyWorkerPass

Am I doing something wrong? I was using GUIminer, but upgraded to two 7970s today and GUIminer doesn't support those. Can anyone point me to a guide on how to connect to this pool?

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July 31, 2012, 01:00:15 PM
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AFAIK cgminer needs / on the end of URL. So try http://api.bitcoin.cz:8332/.

Hello, I'm having trouble connecting to the pool using my current .bat on cgminer.

cgminer -o http://api2.bitcoin.cz:8332 -u myworker.namehere -p MyWorkerPass

Am I doing something wrong? I was using GUIminer, but upgraded to two 7970s today and GUIminer doesn't support those. Can anyone point me to a guide on how to connect to this pool?

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August 07, 2012, 12:17:16 AM
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Do we know if the pool is functioning properly?

11hr round and a 10.5+ blocks today (didnt finish yet).. we only have 24hrs in a day.
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August 07, 2012, 12:49:42 AM
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We are not going through a bump of bad luck in pool... we just
felt into the deepest pit of misery and despair Undecided

Two rounds of 10 hours each in less than 24 hours, I don't know
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