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November 15, 2014, 10:38:35 PM
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In cgminer it says 98Gh/s - 103Gh/s. However, the slush's pool site I have now been able to over 80 Gh/s. Is it just me, or just something on the site?

For example, right now I see "78.544 Ghash/s"
I think you may assume that the figure in CGminer is correct.  The figure on Slush's site is back-calculated from results submitted (the site has no way of knowing your true hash rate).  What does CGminer say your difficulty per submitted share is?  You might want to try setting that slightly higher on the web site, e.g. if your difficulty is running at 48, try setting it to 56 and see what happens.  My own S3+ rigs are set to run at 256 minimum difficulty, which gives me better results than letting the pool set it dynamically.

Thanks for the tip. Getting better results on my 2 S3+ now I've set the difficulty to a min of 256

Thanks for the help indeed. So right now in cgminer I see it set as diff 60, and it is still getting the same average, when it should be at least 100Gh/s. My last question regarding this is how do I set the difficulty exactly? Out of all of my miners, I never had to look into changing that.
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November 16, 2014, 05:16:13 AM
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Q: I have about £450 GBP to spend on miners ..... was going to get 2x S3, looks like I can get a couple for under £400 ...... would that be my best option? I'm fortunate in that I can run them for 12 hours a day on free electric (work), so power consumption cost are not an issue .....

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For that much you could buy a Jackson (Spondoolies SP-20) that has more than double the has rate of 2 x S3's.


Now about the pool.
Who has been talking about the pool online?
The first rule of Slush pool is you don't talk about slush pool;
the second rule of Slush pool is you don't talk about Slush pool!

2.5 PH just jumped into the pool  (that is in addition to the 750 TH that has been jumping in and out over the past two weeks) and cut my share of each block by nearly 20%.

Frak! F@8* U#IN OIH(*R#TYH (H@#OP)#RO POU)( *H#RO IN#RIOHR# R# ane !!!
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November 16, 2014, 06:45:22 AM
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For the last block I got a much lower payout than usual.  For block #23112 I had 4455042 out of 63594928318 which computes to a reward of 0.00176398 BTC and that is what I was paid.  For block 23112 I had 4389489 out of 85565358653 which computes to a reward of 0.001285 BTC.  My BTC reward is only shown as 0.00005305.  That's like 4% of what it should be.  What's up with that?  Huh

#           Block found at           Duration   Total shares    Your shares Your BTC reward    Block #   Block value           Validity
23112    2014-11-16 03:44:32    11:54:58    85565358653    4389489    0.00005305    330218    25.04984451    87 confirmations left
23111    2014-11-15 15:49:34    8:53:37    63594928318    4455042    0.00176398    330142    25.18186278    11 confirmations left
23110    2014-11-15 06:55:57    7:39:34    55856802171    3849858    0.00171542    330085    25.04354249    confirmed
23109    2014-11-14 23:16:23    6:43:13    49207623698    3358255    0.00170364    330045    25.06117120    confirmed
23108    2014-11-14 16:33:10    9:17:23    66452413254    4629125    0.00168321    329998    25.17483054    confirmed
23107    2014-11-14 07:15:47    3:39:12    26035449281    1807389    0.00180034    329938    25.21578816    confirmed
23106    2014-11-14 03:36:35    9:30:04    67856048006    4737111    0.00180378    329922    25.15340555    confirmed
23105    2014-11-13 18:06:31    6:34:14    46295361430    3271518    0.00172947    329861    25.07643844    confirmed
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November 16, 2014, 07:13:58 AM
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Pool performance jumped - somebody redirected big power to slush, possible some company tested something.
Just now they dropped out, so, after that back to "normal" payout...
Slush luck is dropping now, so faster to go trough blocks is not bad thing.
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November 16, 2014, 07:42:57 AM
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Pool performance jumped - somebody redirected big power to slush, possible some company tested something.
Just now they dropped out, so, after that back to "normal" payout...
Slush luck is dropping now, so faster to go trough blocks is not bad thing.

Did you look at the data?  Pool performance didn't jump.  I received 25 times less BTC than I should have.

I usually receive .0016-.0018 BTC per payout.  .00005 is a lot less than that.  I got screwed for some reason.
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November 16, 2014, 08:02:28 AM
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Pool performance jumped - somebody redirected big power to slush, possible some company tested something.
Just now they dropped out, so, after that back to "normal" payout...
Slush luck is dropping now, so faster to go trough blocks is not bad thing.

Did you look at the data?  Pool performance didn't jump.  I received 25 times less BTC than I should have.

I usually receive .0016-.0018 BTC per payout.  .00005 is a lot less than that.  I got screwed for some reason.
You submitted less shares in the 11:54 round than in the 8:53 round. Likely your miner went offline or you took it offline shortly before the 9 hour mark of the block, and because of the way the Slush scoring algorithm works you received a much lower payout.
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November 16, 2014, 08:47:10 AM
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Pool performance jumped - somebody redirected big power to slush, possible some company tested something.
Just now they dropped out, so, after that back to "normal" payout...
Slush luck is dropping now, so faster to go trough blocks is not bad thing.

Did you look at the data?  Pool performance didn't jump.  I received 25 times less BTC than I should have.

I usually receive .0016-.0018 BTC per payout.  .00005 is a lot less than that.  I got screwed for some reason.
You submitted less shares in the 11:54 round than in the 8:53 round. Likely your miner went offline or you took it offline shortly before the 9 hour mark of the block, and because of the way the Slush scoring algorithm works you received a much lower payout.

Yeah I took it offline for a few hours but I didn't know I would receive 96% less payout otherwise I would have taken it offline for the entire 12 hours.  How does the algorithm work?
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November 16, 2014, 08:48:19 AM
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Pool performance jumped - somebody redirected big power to slush, possible some company tested something.
Just now they dropped out, so, after that back to "normal" payout...
Slush luck is dropping now, so faster to go trough blocks is not bad thing.

Did you look at the data?  Pool performance didn't jump.  I received 25 times less BTC than I should have.

I usually receive .0016-.0018 BTC per payout.  .00005 is a lot less than that.  I got screwed for some reason.
You submitted less shares in the 11:54 round than in the 8:53 round. Likely your miner went offline or you took it offline shortly before the 9 hour mark of the block, and because of the way the Slush scoring algorithm works you received a much lower payout.

Yeah I took it offline for a few hours but I didn't know I would receive 96% less payout otherwise I would have taken it offline for the entire 12 hours.  How does the algorithm work?

Need to wait for a block to be found then take it offline. If taken offline during a round you lose substantial part of reward.

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November 16, 2014, 08:54:21 AM
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Whats the formula?  I assumed it was Your shares / Total shares x Block value = Your BTC reward
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November 16, 2014, 08:55:41 AM
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Whats the formula?  I assumed it was Your shares / Total shares x Block value = Your BTC reward

It is somewhere on the website but you are penalized every time you disconnect as the algorithm presupposes you are pool-hopping.

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November 16, 2014, 09:00:36 AM
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So basically it steals your shares and pays you a fraction of what you would normally get because you had to shut down?  Who gets the reward from those shares?  Kind of messed up but good to know.
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November 16, 2014, 09:38:41 AM
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So basically it steals your shares and pays you a fraction of what you would normally get because you had to shut down?  Who gets the reward from those shares?  Kind of messed up but good to know.

I think it redistributes them to everyone else who stayed online during the entire round.

Look at this post. Shares at the beginning of a round have less value then shares in the end of a round.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.msg50002#msg50002

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November 16, 2014, 11:54:16 AM
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Q: I have about £450 GBP to spend on miners ..... was going to get 2x S3, looks like I can get a couple for under £400 ...... would that be my best option? I'm fortunate in that I can run them for 12 hours a day on free electric (work), so power consumption cost are not an issue .....

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For that much you could buy a Jackson (Spondoolies SP-20) that has more than double the has rate of 2 x S3's.


Thanks for that, although looking at prices, SP-20 is around the £1300 GBP mark, I can buy an S3 with psu for £220 GBP, but I will look into the sp-20 some more ..... thanks again :
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November 16, 2014, 12:03:30 PM
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Thanks for the help indeed. So right now in cgminer I see it set as diff 60, and it is still getting the same average, when it should be at least 100Gh/s. My last question regarding this is how do I set the difficulty exactly? Out of all of my miners, I never had to look into changing that.
You set the minimum difficulty in the My Account page on Slush's web site.  Minimum difficulty for each worker will show --- if it hasn't been set specifically; click on Edit for the worker you wish to change, type in the new setting and save.  Give it a few hours for things to settle down.  You are aiming for Slush to report near enough the same hash rate that CGminer reports, but remember that you are likely to see a lower hash rate anyway at peak internet usage times or if the connection routing is iffy.  Try small steps rather than going for broke: in your example I would start with perhaps 75 and see what happens.  I found it also works in BTC Guild.

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November 16, 2014, 01:44:08 PM
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Off topic, but funny.....(I'll use this as my weekly Slush's thread joke Grin)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQhVwBESulM

Listen: meat beat manifesto ~ Edge of no control (pt.1)
Read:"He who controls the past controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past." ~ George Orwell
Think: http://unenumerated.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-dawn-of-trustworthy-computing.html
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November 16, 2014, 05:18:02 PM
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Off topic, but funny.....(I'll use this as my weekly Slush's thread joke Grin)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQhVwBESulM

Well, that's just too scarily accurate!  Grin
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November 16, 2014, 09:10:26 PM
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November 16, 2014, 09:18:13 PM
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Whats the formula?  I assumed it was Your shares / Total shares x Block value = Your BTC reward

It is somewhere on the website but you are penalized every time you disconnect as the algorithm presupposes you are pool-hopping.
Not true. Over long periods it has no effect on your earnings. The times you disconnect just at the end of a round and are penalized are offset by the times when you disconnect near the start of the round, but are paid out the same as if you'd mined the entire block.
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November 16, 2014, 09:32:04 PM
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So basically it steals your shares and pays you a fraction of what you would normally get because you had to shut down?  Who gets the reward from those shares?  Kind of messed up but good to know.

Nobody is "stealing" anything. If you are solo mining and find a block after 40 shares or 40 billion shares you still only get the 25 BTC. (Just an example)

https://www.buytrezor.com?a=55c37b866c11   well sir, I like it!
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November 17, 2014, 08:10:23 AM
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Hi all,

Okay, newbie question. Is it possible to direct multiple miners to the same worker? If it is possible are there any downsides?

Thanks in advance.

Mick
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