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September 04, 2013, 04:01:42 PM
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What is the theoretical maximum number of USB STICKS or BLADES that can be powered off a 110/120Volt 15Amp circuit without popping the CB?

Is 115x15=1725VA/2.5VA=690 sticks max correct??  That number seems like I am calculating that wrong.  Far too high?

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September 04, 2013, 04:24:56 PM
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What is the theoretical maximum number of USB STICKS or BLADES that can be powered off a 110/120Volt 15Amp circuit without popping the CB?

Is 115x15=1725VA/2.5VA=690 sticks max correct??  That number seems like I am calculating that wrong.  Far too high?

phillipma1957, anyone, please comment.  TIA 

The maths is good, just you will lose some power given off as heat by the USB hub's power supply. Say 80% efficiency for a high spec computer PSU but those cheap bricks are probably about 50%. Volt Amps are Watts and you wouldn't worry about plugging in 1.5KW heater, kettle or whatever. 2.5W is tiny really.


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September 04, 2013, 04:34:21 PM
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What is the theoretical maximum number of USB STICKS or BLADES that can be powered off a 110/120Volt 15Amp circuit without popping the CB?

Is 115x15=1725VA/2.5VA=690 sticks max correct??  That number seems like I am calculating that wrong.  Far too high?

phillipma1957, anyone, please comment.  TIA 

The maths is good, just you will lose some power given off as heat by the USB hub's power supply. Say 80% efficiency for a high spec computer PSU but those cheap bricks are probably about 50%. Volt Amps are Watts and you wouldn't worry about plugging in 1.5KW heater, kettle or whatever. 2.5W is tiny really.



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September 04, 2013, 04:34:43 PM
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I have the usb stick. I have not had any problems with them. im going to set up 50gh or more soon. im not good with programing things. the reason im with bit minter is that I could not get any other miner to work.

So my question is. if I buy the 10gh blades that have come on the market am I going to be able to just plug them in and they work? or is there programing to do?
if so how hard. I cant do the c promt stuff. yea I know laugh at me im lamb. but seriously how hard is it to set up these (no pc) style hardware?

If you couldn't get any other miner to work with a USB ASIC, then you may not be able to set up a blade. They require more configuration than the USB sticks. I think there are threads on this forum which give pretty clear instructions, and I am considering buying a blade.


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September 04, 2013, 04:45:33 PM
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Thanx for the info. I realy want in on this. I may have to take some night classes to improve my skills.

It looks to me these blade are the way to go as far as price. also it looks to me that most of the other tech is not shipping yet. or has a waiting list.
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September 04, 2013, 04:53:19 PM
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Thanx for the info. I realy want in on this. I may have to take some night classes to improve my skills.

It looks to me these blade are the way to go as far as price. also it looks to me that most of the other tech is not shipping yet. or has a waiting list.

I think blades will soon be the new sticks if one wants any chance of keeping up with diff increases and total network hashing power.  That is the current view from this extreme neophyte.  Would like to hear the thoughts of the experienced miners regarding the long term(2-3 months) viability of a stick mining rig.
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September 04, 2013, 05:18:34 PM
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would someone post some figures from a 10gh blade? how many day currently is it taking 10ghs to make one coin?
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September 04, 2013, 05:20:57 PM
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would someone post some figures from a 10gh blade? how many day currently is it taking 10ghs to make one coin?


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September 04, 2013, 05:22:05 PM
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quote4339

Thanx for the info. I realy want in on this. I may have to take some night classes to improve my skills.

It looks to me these blade are the way to go as far as price. also it looks to me that most of the other tech is not shipping yet. or has a waiting list.

I think blades will soon be the new sticks if one wants any chance of keeping up with diff increases and total network hashing power.  That is the current view from this extreme neophyte.  Would like to hear the thoughts of the experienced miners regarding the long term(2-3 months) viability of a stick mining rig.
 

sticks have plus marks and down marks.
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1) easy setup
2)low cost to buy in for a few
3)small

down
1)low hash
2)messy if you do 100 sticks
3)about 105 stick max for a pc. your mobo is the key  to how many you can do.

I think the sticks will not be viable by early spring or late winter.
 feb-march.

 as for a temp 2-3 month setup  with usb sticks yeah  you can go for it.  just don't bet the farm.

I mine alt coins with https://simplemining.net...
I see BTC as the super highway and alt coins as taxis and trucks needed to move transactions.
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September 04, 2013, 05:24:24 PM
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would someone post some figures from a 10gh blade? how many day currently is it taking 10ghs to make one coin?


  10.1 gh for 10 days at a diff of 87 mill will make .59 coins 

10.1 gh for 10 days at a diff of 113 mill will make .45 coins

10.1 gh for 10 days at a diff of 147 mill will make  .34 coins   


so this is a 30 day projection of coins earned for the next 30 days at 30% diff jumps.   sooner or later the 30% jumps will level off  but as to when that happens Huh

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September 04, 2013, 05:41:47 PM
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is the diff really going up that fast/ it seam like the tech wont pay for its self.

please comment
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September 04, 2013, 05:56:33 PM
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would someone post some figures from a 10gh blade? how many day currently is it taking 10ghs to make one coin?


  10.1 gh for 10 days at a diff of 87 mill will make .59 coins 

10.1 gh for 10 days at a diff of 113 mill will make .45 coins

10.1 gh for 10 days at a diff of 147 mill will make  .34 coins   


so this is a 30 day projection of coins earned for the next 30 days at 30% diff jumps.   sooner or later the 30% jumps will level off  but as to when that happens Huh

Think you're off by a decimal point there. It'd be 0.059BTC, 0.045, 0.034, etc.
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September 04, 2013, 05:59:10 PM
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quote4339

Thanx for the info. I realy want in on this. I may have to take some night classes to improve my skills.

It looks to me these blade are the way to go as far as price. also it looks to me that most of the other tech is not shipping yet. or has a waiting list.

I think blades will soon be the new sticks if one wants any chance of keeping up with diff increases and total network hashing power.  That is the current view from this extreme neophyte.  Would like to hear the thoughts of the experienced miners regarding the long term(2-3 months) viability of a stick mining rig.
 

sticks have plus marks and down marks.
plus
1) easy setup
2)low cost to buy in for a few
3)small

down
1)low hash
2)messy if you do 100 sticks
3)about 105 stick max for a pc. your mobo is the key  to how many you can do.

I think the sticks will not be viable by early spring or late winter.
 feb-march.

 as for a temp 2-3 month setup  with usb sticks yeah  you can go for it.  just don't bet the farm.

Thanks for the excellent info and quick reply philipma1957.   In my view, you are to good info what Canary is to hardware supply.

On top of the big diff jump it looks to me like the price of BTC is going to take a near term hit as the likelihood of striking Syria in the short term fade away.
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September 04, 2013, 06:00:05 PM
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is the diff really going up that fast/ it seam like the tech wont pay for its self.
Yes, diff has been going up 20%-35% every 10-12 days for the past few months. And it will likely continue to do so for a while.

This is why a growing number of people are beginning to realize (or at least suspect) that any hardware bought now may not actually pay for itself. Or, at least, not any time soon. The less expensive hardware in terms of $/GH is all pre-order, months away; and the on-hand stuff (ASICMiner blades, sticks, ebay) is very expensive.

Either way it is a big gamble. There may be better choices for investing your $ than in mining hardware right now. If you aren't in the game already, this may not be the best time to start.

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September 04, 2013, 06:27:55 PM
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would someone post some figures from a 10gh blade? how many day currently is it taking 10ghs to make one coin?


  10.1 gh for 10 days at a diff of 87 mill will make .59 coins 

10.1 gh for 10 days at a diff of 113 mill will make .45 coins

10.1 gh for 10 days at a diff of 147 mill will make  .34 coins   


so this is a 30 day projection of coins earned for the next 30 days at 30% diff jumps.   sooner or later the 30% jumps will level off  but as to when that happens Huh

Think you're off by a decimal point there. It'd be 0.059BTC, 0.045, 0.034, etc.


 no I did 10 day estimates not 1 day estimates.

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September 04, 2013, 06:32:59 PM
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great info...thanx
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September 04, 2013, 06:33:35 PM
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is the diff really going up that fast/ it seam like the tech wont pay for its self.
Yes, diff has been going up 20%-35% every 10-12 days for the past few months. And it will likely continue to do so for a while.

This is why a growing number of people are beginning to realize (or at least suspect) that any hardware bought now may not actually pay for itself. Or, at least, not any time soon. The less expensive hardware in terms of $/GH is all pre-order, months away; and the on-hand stuff (ASICMiner blades, sticks, ebay) is very expensive.

Either way it is a big gamble. There may be better choices for investing your $ than in mining hardware right now. If you aren't in the game already, this may not be the best time to start.
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September 04, 2013, 06:40:42 PM
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is the diff really going up that fast/ it seam like the tech wont pay for its self.

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 maybe maybe not.  hard to tell since the 30% jumps are coming fast and heavy it is scary to think beyond 30-60 days.

 but 30% jumps don't inspire confidence in the tech paying off.

 30% jumps will not be forever they will level off  question is when.  

EPOCH has a point about getting into mining vs other btc moves..  

If you are really new.  I suggest 2 moves  get some coins and hold them.  Say 2-5 coins

   and get a few sticks a hub and a fan mine on bitminter.   Buy 6 sticks from a seller like this


http://www.ebay.com/itm/PREORDER-USB-ASIC-MINER-Block-Erupter-333MH-Bitcoin-BTC-Mining-/261274881085?pt=CPUs&hash=item3cd5324c3d

 not me I am holding my sticks and mining.

get a hub like this
http://www.amazon.com/ViewHD-Professional-Premium-Quality-Chipset/dp/B00B595GK4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1378319795&sr=8-1&keywords=viewhd+usb+hub


get a fan like this


http://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-USB-Powered-Portable-Cooling-Solution/dp/B003XN24GY/ref=pd_bxgy_pc_img_z

  you are at 180 for the sticks and 60 for the hub fan  not the cheapest hub but the most reliable hub out there.  so you spent 240usd   for a set it and forget it 2gh of hash.  many will say buy the btc and hold so buy 2 btc and hold cost of 260 if you buy from coinbase.  

do both you are at 500 spent.  with everything in hand.  and no more to lose.

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September 04, 2013, 07:12:21 PM
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Im invested in bitcoin. I saw bitcoin on Max Keiser show. That is what caused me to find the mining world. I am new to mining, I have 6 usb stick already. I run my system on solar power. (like free) Im looking in to the cointerra, but im thinking December is to long to wait. Plus if they don't ship on time (like bfl). So it mite not be the time to go big, but if I dont go now, will their ever be a better time? the diff increase (wont last) will hurt the profit. we talking months or years of 30% per month???
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September 04, 2013, 07:49:51 PM
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