ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod]

[fuguebtc]

@coinism, The New Zealand women's team played really well and won the series against the Indian women's team with two matches to spare. I think it was a really dominating performance by the New Zealand women's team starting from the T20 actually.
They won the matches very convincingly in the end. Let's see if the Indian women's team can salvage something from this series.

We can't say Indian women's team is bad in its performance. In 49.3 overs India lost all the wicket scoring 279 runs. New Zealand batted second even after winning the toss. They played in a much steady manner from the very beginning of the match. Finally New Zealand won the match by the 50th over first ball. Scoring 280 runs, New Zealand have lost 7 wickets. Indian team will give the best in the upcoming days.

The Indian women's cricket team is not performing badly but I think is actually getting overshadowed by the bigger events like IPL and men's cricket. And BCCI has a really good flow of money from the men's cricket. So, I think even they are not that interested in promoting women's cricket right now.

At best they are competitive, they do play some good cricket but at the same time these girls also expose chinks in their armour. I was hoping 300+ score in last match considering openers set the platform beautifully but then batting collapse, if it wasn't for Deepti Sharma then they wouldn't even able to touch 200 marks. Same with bowling department, despite early wickets every now n then, they keep failing to take wickets in the middle.

I think probably the problem is their physique. In my opinion, they are getting tired quite quickly than the other team and that is a crucial part of the match where they are losing control. I think they are not conserving their energy and paying the price for it because when a player is fatigued she cannot do certain things correctly even though he/she has the skills to do it.

[eaLiTy]

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The Indian women's cricket team is not performing badly but I think is actually getting overshadowed by the bigger events like IPL and men's cricket. And BCCI has a really good flow of money from the men's cricket. So, I think even they are not that interested in promoting women's cricket right now.

The Women cricketers are really skilled and they have some incredible players but as a fan how many series do you watch and how many matches have you watched till now. The problem is that they have no attracted the masses to attract the advisers that converts to money. Until then their counterparts will over shadow them.

I use to watch Women's T20 world cup and i see them entertaining but i doubt i am able to watch the longer version.

[Sithara007]

Afghanistan is tough, but with the continuous winning Bangladesh will surely have upper hands over the series. Bangladesh have better experience playing against the top teams. Afghanistan cricket is growing good with time, maybe in few years time big teams will surely find it hard to play against them. Right now lack of experienced players is the only drawback which at times make an easy winning match go out of hands.

From what I have seen, the Afghans are competitive only in T20 cricket. Their performance so far in the other two formats (ODI and Test) remains unsatisfactory. There is no dearth of experience in the Afghan squad, as close to a dozen of their players are regulars in various franchise T20 cricket leagues around the world. But apart from the T20 experience, only a few have any sort of familiarity with the longer formats. And given the recent Taliban takeover of Afghanistan, the chances of them establishing a proper domestic 4-day setup appears close to null.

[blatchcorn]

From what I have seen, the Afghans are competitive only in T20 cricket. Their performance so far in the other two formats (ODI and Test) remains unsatisfactory. There is no dearth of experience in the Afghan squad, as close to a dozen of their players are regulars in various franchise T20 cricket leagues around the world. But apart from the T20 experience, only a few have any sort of familiarity with the longer formats. And given the recent Taliban takeover of Afghanistan, the chances of them establishing a proper domestic 4-day setup appears close to null.

The new regime has done good things to continue cricket in Afghanistan. First thing they did was assured icc that women cricket will not be blocked that's the prime reason icc didn't cancelled there membership. Afghanistan is touring India and Bangladesh that's only possible because ACB is backing his team.
In T20 every country is unpredictable since its not proper cricket. Proper cricket is test only and upto some extent ODIs.

[fuguebtc]

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The Indian women's cricket team is not performing badly but I think is actually getting overshadowed by the bigger events like IPL and men's cricket. And BCCI has a really good flow of money from the men's cricket. So, I think even they are not that interested in promoting women's cricket right now.

The Women cricketers are really skilled and they have some incredible players but as a fan how many series do you watch and how many matches have you watched till now. The problem is that they have no attracted the masses to attract the advisers that converts to money. Until then their counterparts will over shadow them.

I use to watch Women's T20 world cup and i see them entertaining but i doubt i am able to watch the longer version.

I think that the Indian women's cricket team has some good skillful players.

But I only enjoy watching the shorter formats of the women's cricket team because in the longer format I feel like the players become fatigued really quick and because of the fatigue the skill also deteriorates a  little. And I know that the people in the subcontinent are not really that much interested in women's cricket so the revenue is not going to be as expected.

[kro55]

Afghanistan is tough, but with the continuous winning Bangladesh will surely have upper hands over the series. Bangladesh have better experience playing against the top teams. Afghanistan cricket is growing good with time, maybe in few years time big teams will surely find it hard to play against them. Right now lack of experienced players is the only drawback which at times make an easy winning match go out of hands.

From what I have seen, the Afghans are competitive only in T20 cricket. Their performance so far in the other two formats (ODI and Test) remains unsatisfactory. There is no dearth of experience in the Afghan squad, as close to a dozen of their players are regulars in various franchise T20 cricket leagues around the world. But apart from the T20 experience, only a few have any sort of familiarity with the longer formats. And given the recent Taliban takeover of Afghanistan, the chances of them establishing a proper domestic 4-day setup appears close to null.

Afghanistan is a very good T20 team not gonna lie. They don't have too much experience in one day or test cricket but compared to Bangladesh I think they are actually better in test cricket than Bangladesh.

As far as I can remember I think Bangladesh has played only one test match with Afghanistan and Afghanistan won the test. But in one day international I think Bangladesh is far above than Afghanistan. But I have to say the political situation of Afghanistan is causing them a lot of problems in not only cricket but also almost all other aspects.

[coinism]

Afghanistan is a very good T20 team not gonna lie. They don't have too much experience in one day or test cricket but compared to Bangladesh I think they are actually better in test cricket than Bangladesh.

As far as I can remember I think Bangladesh has played only one test match with Afghanistan and Afghanistan won the test. But in one day international I think Bangladesh is far above than Afghanistan. But I have to say the political situation of Afghanistan is causing them a lot of problems in not only cricket but also almost all other aspects.

Yes Afghanistan have played 5 test series (all series have single test only) and they have lost only one series so far that is with India. All there home series are in India. They have beaten WI, Bangladesh and Ireland in test matches. Afghanistan and Bangladesh both are team of same level and both have same chances of wining the series.

[TheGreatPython]

Afghanistan have played 5 test series (all series have single test only) and they have lost only one series so far that is with India. All there home series are in India. They have beaten WI, Bangladesh and Ireland in test matches. Afghanistan and Bangladesh both are team of same level and both have same chances of wining the series.

Here I am also favoring Afghanistan in twenty/20 and for ODI series I have feeling that both teams will fight hard because one is having some experience and second is full of talent with this we are going to have some very exciting matches from these both sides, but Bangladesh is going to have some advantage as they are playing at home and their performance is very good against few teams here even few days back they lost against Pakistan but against Afghanistan they can do some better performance and most chances they will have some important points from this series as well.

ICC need to do some work for more cricket for these countries because this is very helpful and players will have some good experience from these matches instead of allowing them for leagues.

[KennyR]

Majority of the users were in support/favour Afghanistan as the winning team. According to me Bangladesh will be winning the matches. The first ODI is scheduled for 23rd February. With T20 matches we can see unexpected performance changing the entire match. With ODI such possibilities were very low. So I bet on Bangladesh as the winners of the ODI series

Bangladesh have been carving themselves strong to face any team. Afghanistan is no down to them, but at times Afghanistan ends up losing wickets once after a good partnership.

[mm2543363580]

Here I am also favoring Afghanistan in twenty/20 and for ODI series I have feeling that both teams will fight hard because one is having some experience and second is full of talent with this we are going to have some very exciting matches from these both sides, but Bangladesh is going to have some advantage as they are playing at home and their performance is very good against few teams here even few days back they lost against Pakistan but against Afghanistan they can do some better performance and most chances they will have some important points from this series as well.

ICC need to do some work for more cricket for these countries because this is very helpful and players will have some good experience from these matches instead of allowing them for leagues.

Don't rely on ICC for introducing cricket to new countries or improving level of associate teams, don't know what job ICC is doing other then serving Big 3.
Afghanistan has made progress on its own and biggest thing which contributed in promoting cricket in Afghanistan is the fact that afghan players are trained in Pakistan domestic setup. Bangladesh on the other hand is just an average team who hasn't achieved much in there 2 decades of cricketing career.

[teosanru]

Here I am also favoring Afghanistan in twenty/20 and for ODI series I have feeling that both teams will fight hard because one is having some experience and second is full of talent with this we are going to have some very exciting matches from these both sides, but Bangladesh is going to have some advantage as they are playing at home and their performance is very good against few teams here even few days back they lost against Pakistan but against Afghanistan they can do some better performance and most chances they will have some important points from this series as well.

ICC need to do some work for more cricket for these countries because this is very helpful and players will have some good experience from these matches instead of allowing them for leagues.

Don't rely on ICC for introducing cricket to new countries or improving level of associate teams, don't know what job ICC is doing other then serving Big 3.
Afghanistan has made progress on its own and biggest thing which contributed in promoting cricket in Afghanistan is the fact that afghan players are trained in Pakistan domestic setup. Bangladesh on the other hand is just an average team who hasn't achieved much in there 2 decades of cricketing career.

Not being favorable to ICC but I think introducing or popularising any sport around the world is difficult in the 21st Century. See after all every sport is all about money and viewership. If ICC has to introduce cricket in any country it has to ensure the people there watch cricket which is a real difficult task. You see cricket is a different sport and not that easy to understand, one would love to watch it only if one understands it which is possible if you have played the sport yourself or people around you play it. And people wil play it only if they have seen this sport somewhere. So this vicious circle is the reason which takes generations to inculcate a sport in some country. And here we are talking about the whole world. Tell me any other Federation which has been able to popularize a sport around the world on it's own.

[doomloop]

Not being favorable to ICC but I think introducing or popularising any sport around the world is difficult in the 21st Century. See after all every sport is all about money and viewership. If ICC has to introduce cricket in any country it has to ensure the people there watch cricket which is a real difficult task. You see cricket is a different sport and not that easy to understand, one would love to watch it only if one understands it which is possible if you have played the sport yourself or people around you play it. And people wil play it only if they have seen this sport somewhere. So this vicious circle is the reason which takes generations to inculcate a sport in some country. And here we are talking about the whole world. Tell me any other Federation which has been able to popularize a sport around the world on it's own.

I agree, it's not easy but currently with the introduction of many formats it's good to do some marketing and having big advantage of Indian, Pakistani and Bangladeshi communities around the world this can do very good for better exposure, and they can earn some good money with this all.

Few years back cricket for around just test and ODI, but now we have twenty/20, Ten/10 and 100 Leagues which are very good for marketing purpose and bringing youths from many countries these are having time like other sports and with this entertainment we can spread cricket in Latin America which is big market and no team is representing in cricket but good thing recently we have teams from Canada and USA with Central American dominance is going to end as West Indies is collapsing very badly from this game.

[7788bitcoin]

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Not being favorable to ICC but I think introducing or popularising any sport around the world is difficult in the 21st Century. See after all every sport is all about money and viewership. If ICC has to introduce cricket in any country it has to ensure the people there watch cricket which is a real difficult task. You see cricket is a different sport and not that easy to understand, one would love to watch it only if one understands it which is possible if you have played the sport yourself or people around you play it.

That is a fact, it is difficult to introduce a new sport in a busy world like today and people do not have the patience to learn a new sport. I started following the sport to place a bet and then this forum is the only space where i talk about Cricket as none of friends knows about the game. If the sport is included in the Olympics then we have a chance to see some interest from the government to introduce the game so that they can win a medal, other than that, ICC can only spend money and they will not get the desired results like some speculate.

[Sithara007]

That is a fact, it is difficult to introduce a new sport in a busy world like today and people do not have the patience to learn a new sport. I started following the sport to place a bet and then this forum is the only space where i talk about Cricket as none of friends knows about the game. If the sport is included in the Olympics then we have a chance to see some interest from the government to introduce the game so that they can win a medal, other than that, ICC can only spend money and they will not get the desired results like some speculate.

Introducing a new sport takes may take many decades to have a real impact. The most basic requirement is Olympic inclusion. If a particular sport is not included in the Olympics, then the governments don't have any incentive to support it. And this is exactly the reason why countries such as China and Russia ignore cricket completely. And the ICC is least bothered in getting Olympics included in the Games. Now they are saying that it maybe possible by 2032. And ten years later, they will claim that they will push for the inclusion in 2042. This sort of delaying tactics will go on forever.

[romero121]

That is a fact, it is difficult to introduce a new sport in a busy world like today and people do not have the patience to learn a new sport. I started following the sport to place a bet and then this forum is the only space where i talk about Cricket as none of friends knows about the game. If the sport is included in the Olympics then we have a chance to see some interest from the government to introduce the game so that they can win a medal, other than that, ICC can only spend money and they will not get the desired results like some speculate.

Introducing a new sport takes may take many decades to have a real impact. The most basic requirement is Olympic inclusion. If a particular sport is not included in the Olympics, then the governments don't have any incentive to support it. And this is exactly the reason why countries such as China and Russia ignore cricket completely. And the ICC is least bothered in getting Olympics included in the Games. Now they are saying that it maybe possible by 2032. And ten years later, they will claim that they will push for the inclusion in 2042. This sort of delaying tactics will go on forever.

It is the International Cricket Council that hasn't submitted an application for the inclusion of cricket into the Olympics. Cricket has been played in the 1900 Olympics with the participation of Great Britain and France. Till date that match stands to be the first and last cricket match played in Olympics. Further there is no countries to participate and the cricketing teams shrunk compared to rest of the games though it has got billions of followers.

[galambo]

Introducing a new sport takes may take many decades to have a real impact. The most basic requirement is Olympic inclusion. If a particular sport is not included in the Olympics, then the governments don't have any incentive to support it. And this is exactly the reason why countries such as China and Russia ignore cricket completely. And the ICC is least bothered in getting Olympics included in the Games. Now they are saying that it maybe possible by 2032. And ten years later, they will claim that they will push for the inclusion in 2042. This sort of delaying tactics will go on forever.

Cricket is mainly ignored by big powers because of its time consuming nature i.e. Test and ODIs. With launch of T20 format it was expected that more countries will join in but sadly that did'nt happened. Cricket is also over a century old ( first test match was played in 1877) but sadly its still restricted to few countries only. Inclusion in Olympics is still not clear.

[CDC AP]

Introducing a new sport takes may take many decades to have a real impact. The most basic requirement is Olympic inclusion. If a particular sport is not included in the Olympics, then the governments don't have any incentive to support it. And this is exactly the reason why countries such as China and Russia ignore cricket completely. And the ICC is least bothered in getting Olympics included in the Games. Now they are saying that it maybe possible by 2032. And ten years later, they will claim that they will push for the inclusion in 2042. This sort of delaying tactics will go on forever.

Cricket is mainly ignored by big powers because of its time consuming nature i.e. Test and ODIs. With launch of T20 format it was expected that more countries will join in but sadly that did'nt happened. Cricket is also over a century old ( first test match was played in 1877) but sadly its still restricted to few countries only. Inclusion in Olympics is still not clear.

Yes when T20 was introduced it was also taken in mind that it can also be included in olympics in the future because it is less time consuming when we compare it with other two formats of cricket.
But even after that we have only heard talks of inclusion but I dont see this happening any time soon.

[ilovealtcoins]

That is a fact, it is difficult to introduce a new sport in a busy world like today and people do not have the patience to learn a new sport. I started following the sport to place a bet and then this forum is the only space where i talk about Cricket as none of friends knows about the game. If the sport is included in the Olympics then we have a chance to see some interest from the government to introduce the game so that they can win a medal, other than that, ICC can only spend money and they will not get the desired results like some speculate.

Introducing a new sport takes may take many decades to have a real impact. The most basic requirement is Olympic inclusion. If a particular sport is not included in the Olympics, then the governments don't have any incentive to support it. And this is exactly the reason why countries such as China and Russia ignore cricket completely. And the ICC is least bothered in getting Olympics included in the Games. Now they are saying that it maybe possible by 2032. And ten years later, they will claim that they will push for the inclusion in 2042. This sort of delaying tactics will go on forever.

Bro, are they dumb? Or don't they have any shame or self-respect? 

Cricket is a big sport and played by a lot of people worldwide. First of all, it's a shame that ICC even says that cricket will be in the Olympics after 10 years because it should be done much earlier than that.

And I think if I see was not so greedy and actually cared about the game it would have been accomplished a long time ago. And I actually agree that this date of 10 years is going to be postponed again.

[og kush420]

Bro, are they dumb? Or don't they have any shame or self-respect? 

Cricket is a big sport and played by a lot of people worldwide. First of all, it's a shame that ICC even says that cricket will be in the Olympics after 10 years because it should be done much earlier than that.

And I think if I see was not so greedy and actually cared about the game it would have been accomplished a long time ago. And I actually agree that this date of 10 years is going to be postponed again.

Cricket is a game that is confined to few countries only and its among top sports only because people of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh are crazy about it and combine population of these three countries is almost 1.75 billion. In terms of countries it has very small radius, we have only 10 regular cricket teams.
Only one team from America continent i.e. WIndies, nothing from southeast asia, just one good team left in Africa i.e. South Africa. 

[Sithara007]

It is the International Cricket Council that hasn't submitted an application for the inclusion of cricket into the Olympics. Cricket has been played in the 1900 Olympics with the participation of Great Britain and France. Till date that match stands to be the first and last cricket match played in Olympics. Further there is no countries to participate and the cricketing teams shrunk compared to rest of the games though it has got billions of followers.

The first ever international cricket match in recorded history was played between Canada and the United States in 1844. There were countries such as Argentina, Denmark and France which used to have a large number of cricket clubs. All that is history now, because the ICC was never interested in any region outside the traditional commonwealth (South Asia, England, Australia-NZ.etc). Outside the 5-6 test nations, cricket continues to decline and that is true even for some of the test nations such as Ireland, South Africa, West Indies and most of the Associate nations.