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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
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July 30, 2021, 09:15:53 PM
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Announcement for the later game:

The game between Blackwater Bossing and Phoenix Super LPG Fuel Masters, scheduled July 31, 2021, Saturday at 2 p.m. will be rescheduled to a later date in accordance with the league's health and safety protocols. The game between the Meralco and the Alaska Aces will push through at 4:30 p.m.

If you bet on Ginebra, you will be celebrating by now, C. Stand hit the game-winner, which was huge as Ginebra was struggling a bit. I thought it will go to OT, but C. Stand's offensive rebound really was at the right time and at the right place.  Congratulations to the Ginebra, they are back! That never say die attitude though.

On the other hand, Greg Slaughter is pumped. He is having quality minutes in Northport. He almost played the entire game with 41 minutes. He's clearly motivated to show Ginebra that he can still get good numbers. For his 2 games this conference, against SMB and Ginebra, his stats were double-double.
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July 30, 2021, 09:24:08 PM
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I just notice I've seen almost all the rookies this season and they seem to have not impressed me yet.

The last time I was impress was a Rookie playing with Terrafirma DYIP which is CJ Perez, when he started his PBA career, he doesn't look like a Rookie as he was already making double-digit points consistently in a game. What are your thoughts on the current Rookies, who is the biggest one you think has a good potential to end with great numbers in the conference?

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July 30, 2021, 09:38:05 PM
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I just notice I've seen almost all the rookies this season and they seem to have not impressed me yet.

The last time I was impress was a Rookie playing with Terrafirma DYIP which is CJ Perez, when he started his PBA career, he doesn't look like a Rookie as he was already making double-digit points consistently in a game. What are your thoughts on the current Rookies, who is the biggest one you think has a good potential to end with great numbers in the conference?

I had my eye focused on Mikey Williams as he was controversial on asking high rookie salary despite not proving anything yet and yes, just like what you said he doesn't register impressive numbers on his first game.

With Bossing vs Phoenix game canceled today, we only have Alaska vs Bolts game to bet on.

I'm backing Bolts -2.5 @1.84, they are on the roll so betting against them is not advisable hehe.

I'm 2 out of 2 yesterday and seems like this season is pretty easy to pick on who will win the matches for me  Grin. hope this will continue.


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July 30, 2021, 09:51:14 PM
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I just notice I've seen almost all the rookies this season and they seem to have not impressed me yet.

The last time I was impress was a Rookie playing with Terrafirma DYIP which is CJ Perez, when he started his PBA career, he doesn't look like a Rookie as he was already making double-digit points consistently in a game. What are your thoughts on the current Rookies, who is the biggest one you think has a good potential to end with great numbers in the conference?

I had my eye focused on Mikey Williams as he was controversial on asking high rookie salary despite not proving anything yet and yes, just like what you said he doesn't register impressive numbers on his first game.



He only scored 7 points in his debut from 2-10 shooting, I think his shooting form is kinda awkward, so most likely he gets his point in the paint because he looks really athletic. IMO, Ray Parks is better than this rookie and sadly he is not with the TNT anymore. I just comment based on my observation as I don't really follow Mikey Williams's career before the PBA.

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July 30, 2021, 10:23:00 PM
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He only scored 7 points in his debut from 2-10 shooting, I think his shooting form is kinda awkward, so most likely he gets his point in the paint because he looks really athletic.

We can see if he really deserves the increased salary demand once we see his total stats and performance at the end of the conference.

PBA teams don't have any good practice before the league opens and that might contribute to why he struggles on his debut. As a rookie, he is still finding his chemistry towards his new home. If only he made several practices with the team, he should know where he should stand.
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July 30, 2021, 11:03:26 PM
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He only scored 7 points in his debut from 2-10 shooting, I think his shooting form is kinda awkward, so most likely he gets his point in the paint because he looks really athletic.

We can see if he really deserves the increased salary demand once we see his total stats and performance at the end of the conference.

PBA teams don't have any good practice before the league opens and that might contribute to why he struggles on his debut. As a rookie, he is still finding his chemistry towards his new home. If only he made several practices with the team, he should know where he should stand.

yup! he's still on the process lets accept things that this new guy are adjusting with his new role,
we can't easily judge him from his début as most of the time rookie struggles,

plus the fact that he's playing with TNT where basketball IQ had been establish between players, he needs to work more from each players just like you said, each teams are lack of practice since pandemic hits us.

If this young star really have something to show for sure we will see that within this first season of his career.

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July 31, 2021, 11:05:03 AM
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I'm backing Bolts -2.5 @1.84, they are on the roll so betting against them is not advisable hehe.



Got the W for today's lone ballgame. Alaska is in complete disarray, even Jeron Teng struggles this late on his game. Looking at their current roster seems that they will go home early.

If this young star really have something to show for sure we will see that within this first season of his career.

Yeah, one season is enough to showcase your true potential, some teams can even determine if a player has potential through their scouting report which i think TNT has. Have read an article, coach Chot was not impressed of Mikey William's debut but he understands that chemistry might be a factor so he gives his guy some time to show his potential.

Two games for tomorrow guys hope none will be canceled and also hope that the PBA would continue in a bubble setup.

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I'm backing Bolts -2.5 @1.84, they are on the roll so betting against them is not advisable hehe.


Big win by the Meralco, Alaska tries to come back but Meralco always has the answer to keep the team in a comfortable lead.

Great ball movement by the Meralco Bolts, even the Rookie Pasaol contribute with his high this season so far.
This young guy is a great shooter, he would really help the Meralco to be a good threat outside as well.

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July 31, 2021, 09:32:57 PM
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I thought there's no game tomorrow due to the transfer of venue, but it was posted here (https://pba.ph/) that we have a scheduled two games today.

at 2 PM, we have Rain or Shine vs DYIP ( time to bounce back for ROS)
at 4:35 PM, we have TNT and Phoenix, this one is great, Phoenix has to win but TNT is just the better team here.

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July 31, 2021, 09:51:33 PM
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I thought there's no game tomorrow due to the transfer of venue, but it was posted here (https://pba.ph/) that we have a scheduled two games today.

I've just read that there are some modifications on the schedule and did not know that there is a venue transfer, may I know where they will transfer?

at 2 PM, we have Rain or Shine vs DYIP ( time to bounce back for ROS)
at 4:35 PM, we have TNT and Phoenix, this one is great, Phoenix has to win but TNT is just the better team here.

My Picks for the day:

Rain or Shine -6.5 @1.88, DYIP has not found the ingredients to win yet while ROS needs to bounce back.

Phoenix +5.5 @2.01, TNT might be a better team but with this HC, I have second thoughts that they could cover this one so I'm backing Phoenix with HC.

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August 01, 2021, 09:22:20 AM
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I thought there's no game tomorrow due to the transfer of venue, but it was posted here (https://pba.ph/) that we have a scheduled two games today.

I've just read that there are some modifications on the schedule and did not know that there is a venue transfer, may I know where they will transfer?

at 2 PM, we have Rain or Shine vs DYIP ( time to bounce back for ROS)
at 4:35 PM, we have TNT and Phoenix, this one is great, Phoenix has to win but TNT is just the better team here.

My Picks for the day:

Rain or Shine -6.5 @1.88, DYIP has not found the ingredients to win yet while ROS needs to bounce back.
Rain or shine just missed 1 point to cover the spread, final score was 83-77.
Therefore you loss the first game mate, but you are looking good at the 2nd game.

Phoenix +5.5 @2.01, TNT might be a better team but with this HC, I have second thoughts that they could cover this one so I'm backing Phoenix with HC.

Phoenix led by 5 points at the half, the score is 45-40 and TNT seem to have a problem with the defense of the Phoenix.
Will see if TNT will come back or Phoenix will just dominate them.

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August 01, 2021, 10:39:14 AM
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Phoenix led by 5 points at the half, the score is 45-40 and TNT seem to have a problem with the defense of the Phoenix.
Will see if TNT will come back or Phoenix will just dominate them.

Lost my first game bet but won the second, break-even for me this day. Both games are close with the winning teams failed to cover the spread.

Mikey Williams played for almost 38 minutes, registering 9 points by way of 4-19 from the field, that's a very low percentage but yet he got heavy minutes so this means that coach Chot has confidence in this guy.


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August 01, 2021, 10:44:13 AM
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Phoenix led by 5 points at the half, the score is 45-40 and TNT seem to have a problem with the defense of the Phoenix.
Will see if TNT will come back or Phoenix will just dominate them.

Lost my first game bet but won the second, break-even for me this day. Both games are close with the winning teams failed to cover the spread.

Mikey Williams played for almost 38 minutes, registering 9 points by way of 4-19 from the field, that's a very low percentage but yet he got heavy minutes so this means that coach Chot has confidence in this guy.



It's still good for the TNT as they won, they are giving Mikey Williams the opportunity to prove himself and I believe eventually he will be able to improve and be more consistent, though he is only rookie in papers but still its his first season in the PBA.

What a comeback by the TNT, Troy Rosario was great, he was getting rebounds and follow-up shot when his teammates are missing.

I think he is the most consistent in this game.

congrats to you @bisdak40 , you still won.
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August 01, 2021, 12:57:29 PM
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Phoenix led by 5 points at the half, the score is 45-40 and TNT seem to have a problem with the defense of the Phoenix.
Will see if TNT will come back or Phoenix will just dominate them.

Lost my first game bet but won the second, break-even for me this day. Both games are close with the winning teams failed to cover the spread.

Mikey Williams played for almost 38 minutes, registering 9 points by way of 4-19 from the field, that's a very low percentage but yet he got heavy minutes so this means that coach Chot has confidence in this guy.



It's still good for the TNT as they won, they are giving Mikey Williams the opportunity to prove himself and I believe eventually he will be able to improve and be more consistent, though he is only rookie in papers but still its his first season in the PBA.

What a comeback by the TNT, Troy Rosario was great, he was getting rebounds and follow-up shot when his teammates are missing.

I think he is the most consistent in this game.

congrats to you @bisdak40 , you still won.

Mikey Williams has to improve, there's no excuse even if he is still a rookie, Pogoy's minutes have dropped I believe because TNT had invested in Willams who are still struggling in his 2nd game, and they had a high expectation on this player so they'll keep pushing him. On the other hand, I think TNT is not wrong about getting Khobuntin as he really is big on the floor, the hassle is there and he really works hard, we can tell that.

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August 01, 2021, 01:06:01 PM
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Phoenix led by 5 points at the half, the score is 45-40 and TNT seem to have a problem with the defense of the Phoenix.
Will see if TNT will come back or Phoenix will just dominate them.

Lost my first game bet but won the second, break-even for me this day. Both games are close with the winning teams failed to cover the spread.

Mikey Williams played for almost 38 minutes, registering 9 points by way of 4-19 from the field, that's a very low percentage but yet he got heavy minutes so this means that coach Chot has confidence in this guy.



It's still good for the TNT as they won, they are giving Mikey Williams the opportunity to prove himself and I believe eventually he will be able to improve and be more consistent, though he is only rookie in papers but still its his first season in the PBA.

What a comeback by the TNT, Troy Rosario was great, he was getting rebounds and follow-up shot when his teammates are missing.

I think he is the most consistent in this game.

congrats to you @bisdak40 , you still won.

he just need to keep pushing harder, coach Chot is leaning on him as we see his minutes. Giving enough time for this rookie as
they invest a lot and this guy needs to contribute well.

We migh see more coming from him in their next ball game, with that minutes and allowing him to keep shooting, Even in a very
low percentage he just need to let it.

Good job @ Bisdak for winning that handicap, very close game and it's good when you are betting for the underdog.

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August 01, 2021, 02:57:24 PM
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Phoenix led by 5 points at the half, the score is 45-40 and TNT seem to have a problem with the defense of the Phoenix.
Will see if TNT will come back or Phoenix will just dominate them.

Lost my first game bet but won the second, break-even for me this day. Both games are close with the winning teams failed to cover the spread.

Mikey Williams played for almost 38 minutes, registering 9 points by way of 4-19 from the field, that's a very low percentage but yet he got heavy minutes so this means that coach Chot has confidence in this guy.



It's still good for the TNT as they won, they are giving Mikey Williams the opportunity to prove himself and I believe eventually he will be able to improve and be more consistent, though he is only rookie in papers but still its his first season in the PBA.

What a comeback by the TNT, Troy Rosario was great, he was getting rebounds and follow-up shot when his teammates are missing.

I think he is the most consistent in this game.

congrats to you @bisdak40 , you still won.

he just need to keep pushing harder, coach Chot is leaning on him as we see his minutes. Giving enough time for this rookie as
they invest a lot and this guy needs to contribute well.

We migh see more coming from him in their next ball game, with that minutes and allowing him to keep shooting, Even in a very
low percentage he just need to let it.

Good job @ Bisdak for winning that handicap, very close game and it's good when you are betting for the underdog.

The difference between the TNT and Phoenix in this game is on the point guard position.

Phoenix is a good starter as they have the aggressiveness but they lack the ability on closing games.
I didn't see them a lot making a lot of attempts inside, it seems like they are not using Perkins and Manuel's talents properly.
IMO, they have advantage inside as these two guys are stronger than the big guys of TNT.

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August 01, 2021, 11:47:06 PM
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it seems like they are not using Perkins and Manuel's talents properly.

I don't see it that way. They did their best. It's just that they fell short and that was common even for a team that doing their very best. The game is close and no reason to looked at why they lose. TNT on the other hand also did their best that's why they were able to snatch the win. Phoenix has surely taken note of that loss.

Mikey Williams has to improve, there's no excuse even if he is still a rookie, Pogoy's minutes have dropped I believe because TNT had invested in Willams who are still struggling in his 2nd game, and they had a high expectation on this player so they'll keep pushing him.

2 consecutive games and here's my take on TNT's rookie Mikey Williams.

I know he's somehow arrogant when he requested a max deal available for the rookie where in the first place, he doesn't prove anything yet (obviously, because he was a rookie). A player who behaves like that is confident in their own skills so Coach Chot likely wants to test him and even provides quality minutes for him resulting in minimizing the usual playing time of the other starters.

Looking at the FG%, it's worst yes, but the attempt made is not usual for the rookie. Meaning he has the confidence to take shots even he's struggling and because of more minutes provided to him, soon he will be used to playing his best. He just needs to live with the hype he started. Coach Chot is strict. If he sees a player that isn't competitive enough, he will turn that player into a bench warmer without a doubt.

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August 02, 2021, 05:29:03 AM
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Looking at the FG%, it's worst yes, but the attempt made is not usual for the rookie. Meaning he has the confidence to take shots even he's struggling and because of more minutes provided to him, soon he will be used to playing his best. He just needs to live with the hype he started. Coach Chot is strict. If he sees a player that isn't competitive enough, he will turn that player into a bench warmer without a doubt.

Coach Chot is good in observing players potentials, he knows that there's something from this guy
and he will try his very best to rinse it out and make him the player that he wanted him to be.

Else, things will not be good for him if he keeps failing coach Chot expectations from him.

Not good will happen I also see that possibilities,
he will sit and watch as bench player hoping being trade out or end his career much earlier than expected.
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August 02, 2021, 12:40:13 PM
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it seems like they are not using Perkins and Manuel's talents properly.

I don't see it that way. They did their best. It's just that they fell short and that was common even for a team that doing their very best. The game is close and no reason to looked at why they lose. TNT on the other hand also did their best that's why they were able to snatch the win. Phoenix has surely taken note of that loss.


I am just not impressed anymore with Perkin's performance in their past games, Manuel I think was the best player of the game when they had their first win, that was the time when Wright did not play. I just hope I will see more of Perkin's defense and offense, especially his 3 point shooting.

Maybe his production has dropped because they already have Manuel, but he has to be more aggressive and break this losing streak.

They are now 1-4, this is not the same Phoenix I know.

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August 02, 2021, 01:30:30 PM
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it seems like they are not using Perkins and Manuel's talents properly.

I don't see it that way. They did their best. It's just that they fell short and that was common even for a team that doing their very best. The game is close and no reason to looked at why they lose. TNT on the other hand also did their best that's why they were able to snatch the win. Phoenix has surely taken note of that loss.


I am just not impressed anymore with Perkin's performance in their past games, Manuel I think was the best player of the game when they had their first win, that was the time when Wright did not play. I just hope I will see more of Perkin's defense and offense, especially his 3 point shooting.

Maybe his production has dropped because they already have Manuel, but he has to be more aggressive and break this losing streak.

They are now 1-4, this is not the same Phoenix I know.

This coming Wednesday, their record will surely increase to 2-4 as they will battle with the weakest team in the PBA, they will play the Terraferma DYIP who has not won a single game yet according to the current standing. https://pba.ph/standings

It should be a big bounce back, they cannot be complacent here, if they have a big lead, they should still work hard to keep that lead and had a very dominant win.
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