Showdown: Trump Vs Haley. Bitcoin betting on the 2024 US Presidential Election

[uneng]

I think Trump is very demoralized after inciting the population against the stolen election, because he didn't stand with the people. He just set fire on and ran away, contradicting his previous declarations right after. Personally being on that situation as a common citizen I would fell betrayed by Trump and many others probably are feeling like this as well, so I don't think Trump has the same strength he had in 2016 and 2020.
Trump was supposed to drain the swamp, to defeat the establishment and he failed, creating a vacuum in the political scenario that no one has occupied yet so far. And considering how rotten is the humanity and society it's unlikely someone will replace this position with success.

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[aesma]

Ivanka is a Democrat so that's a bit of an issue. Even Donald Trump was a Democrat all his life, he just went populist and figured he could win the GOP nomination.

[Timelord2o67]

President Joe Biden has just delivered his first State of the Union address 100 days on from his inauguration.

How is he doing? And, would you bet on him winning a second term?  (If not, who would you bet Bitcoin on?)

[Sithara007]

I think Trump is very demoralized after inciting the population against the stolen election, because he didn't stand with the people. He just set fire on and ran away, contradicting his previous declarations right after. Personally being on that situation as a common citizen I would fell betrayed by Trump and many others probably are feeling like this as well, so I don't think Trump has the same strength he had in 2016 and 2020.
Trump was supposed to drain the swamp, to defeat the establishment and he failed, creating a vacuum in the political scenario that no one has occupied yet so far. And considering how rotten is the humanity and society it's unlikely someone will replace this position with success.

Trump may have failed in draining the swamp, but he was very successful in managing the economy. Stock market indices were at all time high, and the unemployment rate was at a record low. He reduced the corporate tax, which encouraged industries to set up their manufacturing units within the United States rather than moving them abroad. One year before the elections, Trump was widely expected to be re-elected. And then came the COVID 19 pandemic, which he managed poorly. He lost the elections because of the pandemic.

[xSkylarx]

It is too early to talk about this topic. Biden just won last year and he is not even 1 year when he became the president. If covid will end in Biden's term and he did enough for his country then he has high chances to win again the next election. If he hasn't done anything and pass some useless laws that just make Americans suffer then people would probably not vote for him for the next presidential election. There is much more to happen especially on bitcoin so focusing on that issue is useless for me now.

[peter0425]

Bitcoin betting on the 2024 US Presidential Election | Biden+Harris Vs ?? ??

With hours to go before Joe Biden is sworn in as the 46th President of the United States of America, will he stand down in two years time age 80 and give the electors a glimpse of a Harris administration for two years?

Or, will President Biden serve for four years and seek re-election in 2024?

Who will be the Republican challenger? Donald Trump, his daughter Ivana Marie "Ivanka" Trump... Mike Pence?

Will Bernie Sanders, Taylor Swift or even Kanye West have enough momentum to be a serious or credabital contender?

What odds would you expect to see for each of the challengers, and, if Bitcoin is worth about $36,000 right now, what might it be worth in four years time when the election is called?

In post two I'll post odds and websites taking wagers.

THis is far too early for the bets but I believe that Biden will never just Give the position for 2 years after reaching 80 years old because the Man is fit to finish His term and may take another spot on the next election 2024.

And not because Camilla is the Vice President means he will Rise the hand in the next election because in politics things change in just a bit of a time.

[Vishnu.Reang]

It is too early to talk about this topic. Biden just won last year and he is not even 1 year when he became the president. If covid will end in Biden's term and he did enough for his country then he has high chances to win again the next election. If he hasn't done anything and pass some useless laws that just make Americans suffer then people would probably not vote for him for the next presidential election. There is much more to happen especially on bitcoin so focusing on that issue is useless for me now.

2024 elections are still three and half years away and there are practical difficulties in placing a bet for this election. First of all, how can we trust a gambling site to keep our money in escrow for such a long duration? I have seen sportsbooks going down after one or two years of operation. And secondly, if we keep the coins in their wallet, what is the guarantee that they won't be lost due to some hacking or online robbery? It may look attractive to bet on this election right now. But for me, the risk is too large. I would have considered, if some reputed site such as Bet365 come up with an option to place bets with cryptocurrency. At this point, it is too risky to trust the crypto sportsbooks.

[michellee]

Maybe we can give Biden more time as we are still at the pandemic, which we never know when it will end. If Biden can give his best to his citizen, I think that can lift his popularity and be elected in the next Presidential election. Biden was tested in this pandemic, whether he can do his jobs by a concern to help the people and save them or he can not works as what he said in the election before. We hope that Biden can work and do many things for his people while Harris can help Biden's works so, in the next election, Harris can be known as one of many people who helps the people.

[bryant.coleman]

Maybe we can give Biden more time as we are still at the pandemic, which we never know when it will end. If Biden can give his best to his citizen, I think that can lift his popularity and be elected in the next Presidential election. Biden was tested in this pandemic, whether he can do his jobs by a concern to help the people and save them or he can not works as what he said in the election before. We hope that Biden can work and do many things for his people while Harris can help Biden's works so, in the next election, Harris can be known as one of many people who helps the people.

From what I have seen during the last few months, Biden's health condition doesn't look very good. Sooner or later, Harris will step in (either formally or informally). I don't know about how the Democrats are planning to do this, but my guess is that the initial two years will be given to Biden (at least nominally), before Harris take charge as the president. So in case you want to make a bid in favor of Harris, do it before she becomes the president. Once she becomes the president, the odds are going to be more biased.

[Timelord2067]

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So in case you want to make a bid in favor of Harris, do it before she becomes the president. Once she becomes the president, the odds are going to be more biased.

I'd definitely like to place a wager or two on the outcome of the 2024 US Presidential Election, but I'm not certain which gambling sites have wagers this far out from the vote.  In either case as a couple of people have pointed out already, we can't be certain which gambling sites will still be in operation in another two or three years time.

[Vishnu.Reang]

I'd definitely like to place a wager or two on the outcome of the 2024 US Presidential Election, but I'm not certain which gambling sites have wagers this far out from the vote.  In either case as a couple of people have pointed out already, we can't be certain which gambling sites will still be in operation in another two or three years time.

IMO, it is not a good idea to place a bet in 2021 for the 2024 elections. In politics, the fortunes can change in a matter of months. You will never know when someone emerges all of a sudden as the frontrunner for the Democrat nomination. Even in 2016, no one really gave much of a chance to Donald Trump. Initially Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz were the favorites. And take the case of 2020 Democrat primaries. In the early phase, Bernie Sanders was the clear favorite, along with Michael Bloomberg.

[aesma]

I think Trump is very demoralized after inciting the population against the stolen election, because he didn't stand with the people. He just set fire on and ran away, contradicting his previous declarations right after. Personally being on that situation as a common citizen I would fell betrayed by Trump and many others probably are feeling like this as well, so I don't think Trump has the same strength he had in 2016 and 2020.
Trump was supposed to drain the swamp, to defeat the establishment and he failed, creating a vacuum in the political scenario that no one has occupied yet so far. And considering how rotten is the humanity and society it's unlikely someone will replace this position with success.

Trump may have failed in draining the swamp, but he was very successful in managing the economy. Stock market indices were at all time high, and the unemployment rate was at a record low. He reduced the corporate tax, which encouraged industries to set up their manufacturing units within the United States rather than moving them abroad. One year before the elections, Trump was widely expected to be re-elected. And then came the COVID 19 pandemic, which he managed poorly. He lost the elections because of the pandemic.

What does managing the economy even mean ? Traditional republican values are supposed to be about controlling the debt, having a balanced budget. The Tea Party appeared on that platform. Trump, despite the economy doing OK, increased the deficit, is that good management ? Lowering taxes when your budget is far from balanced is irresponsible.

[aysg76]

It was tough time for Biden as Democratic has just outswinged the Trump's Republican party in 2020 US elections and now serving as 46th president and the Corona Pandemic hit the globe.United States was badly hit and the economy was tumbling but Biden government released Stimulus check of $1200 for citizens and help aid to business to recover from the market loss which is a great initiative and his manifesto has many more points which are strong.But if we talk about 2024 elections it's a bit early prediction as we are still 3 years back and which candidate joins the list is difficult to bet upon.As said above by the other members Joe biden is in his 80's and health issues might not sustain well at that time so who knows.On the other side Donald Trump is not ready to swallow his defeat and claiming that Republican will rule once again in 2024 whether he or Ivanka Trump joins as Candidate.Time will tell who is more capable of this.

[bryant.coleman]

What does managing the economy even mean ? Traditional republican values are supposed to be about controlling the debt, having a balanced budget. The Tea Party appeared on that platform. Trump, despite the economy doing OK, increased the deficit, is that good management ? Lowering taxes when your budget is far from balanced is irresponsible.

The first three years of Trump presidency went really well. The debt was kept under control and the expenses were cut down. Trump made sure that the defense spending is not going to shoot up beyond a limit. He made no military interventions on third world countries (unlike all those presidents before him), and even made significant moves to reduce the American intervention in countries such as Afghanistan and Iraq. The idea behind the reduction in corporate tax was to rejuvenate the manufacturing units within the US, which were making plans to move to countries such as Mexico and China due to higher taxes. And that plan also worked well to some extent.

Now what went wrong was the CoVID 19 pandemic. Trump made a horrible decision to ignore the pandemic, and he resisted lockdown measures until the last moment. This probably cost him the election. Until this moment, he was ahead in betting odds. The pandemic wreaked havoc in the US and left tens of millions jobless. And now he had to go for the stimulus to get the economy back on track. And that meant that the federal debt shot up by a few trillion $$$.

[Timelord2067]

US President Joe Biden has arrived in Cornwall, England for the upcoming G7 leaders' meeting and on an inspection of US troops based there has told those troops that the US' presence in Europe is to defend the very essence of freedom and democracy.

Meanwhile former President Trump has walked away from the social media infotainment platform he was hoping to build.

[uneng]

I think Trump is very demoralized after inciting the population against the stolen election, because he didn't stand with the people. He just set fire on and ran away, contradicting his previous declarations right after. Personally being on that situation as a common citizen I would fell betrayed by Trump and many others probably are feeling like this as well, so I don't think Trump has the same strength he had in 2016 and 2020.
Trump was supposed to drain the swamp, to defeat the establishment and he failed, creating a vacuum in the political scenario that no one has occupied yet so far. And considering how rotten is the humanity and society it's unlikely someone will replace this position with success.

Trump may have failed in draining the swamp, but he was very successful in managing the economy. Stock market indices were at all time high, and the unemployment rate was at a record low. He reduced the corporate tax, which encouraged industries to set up their manufacturing units within the United States rather than moving them abroad. One year before the elections, Trump was widely expected to be re-elected. And then came the COVID 19 pandemic, which he managed poorly. He lost the elections because of the pandemic.

What does managing the economy even mean ? Traditional republican values are supposed to be about controlling the debt, having a balanced budget. The Tea Party appeared on that platform. Trump, despite the economy doing OK, increased the deficit, is that good management ? Lowering taxes when your budget is far from balanced is irresponsible.

Well, if the government cuts expenses like reducing the number of public employees, removing marketing (media) budget and partnerships that are only useful to give money to the political allies/sponsors, it's possible to cut taxes without any problems. With less taxes more jobs are created, as the market feels incentivized and becomes more productive.
In the end the results are even better than when keeping taxes high or raising them. That was Trump's proposal, no? I think that is what people were expecting for.

[Sithara007]

US President Joe Biden has arrived in Cornwall, England for the upcoming G7 leaders' meeting and on an inspection of US troops based there has told those troops that the US' presence in Europe is to defend the very essence of freedom and democracy.

Meanwhile former President Trump has walked away from the social media infotainment platform he was hoping to build.

I don't know if Trump is planning to run for 2024 again. It will be a very bad move, not just for him, but for his party as well. Trump lost the ability to attract moderate voters long back. The core conservative voters are still behind him, but if he can't get votes from the women and among the suburban voters, then it will be impossible for him to get the necessary 270 electoral votes. With the rapidly changing demographics in the US, the Republicans have a chance only if they nominate a more inclusive and less polarizing candidate.

[michellee]

Maybe we can give Biden more time as we are still at the pandemic, which we never know when it will end. If Biden can give his best to his citizen, I think that can lift his popularity and be elected in the next Presidential election. Biden was tested in this pandemic, whether he can do his jobs by a concern to help the people and save them or he can not works as what he said in the election before. We hope that Biden can work and do many things for his people while Harris can help Biden's works so, in the next election, Harris can be known as one of many people who helps the people.

From what I have seen during the last few months, Biden's health condition doesn't look very good. Sooner or later, Harris will step in (either formally or informally). I don't know about how the Democrats are planning to do this, but my guess is that the initial two years will be given to Biden (at least nominally), before Harris take charge as the president. So in case you want to make a bid in favor of Harris, do it before she becomes the president. Once she becomes the president, the odds are going to be more biased.

Maybe Biden will instruct Harris to lead the country and help the recovery process on that country. However, the political behind on Democrats already made a plan what they will do with Biden. If Biden's health is not good to continue his President's job, Biden should give his position to Harris. I do not make a bet for Biden or Harris, but maybe I will do it at the last minute later.

[Cling18]

Isn't it too early for us to predict? Biden still has a lot to prove and in his term, there are lots of things that could happen. If we'd let him lead first, we'll be able to have an idea of an out 2024 US Presidential election. Biden still needs time since he hasn't started yet. We'll see if he deserves a replacement in the coming days based on how he'll going to serve the entire country.

[suzanne5223]

President Joe Biden has just delivered his first State of the Union address 100 days on from his inauguration.

How is he doing? And, would you bet on him winning a second term?  (If not, who would you bet Bitcoin on?)

First of all, it too early for people to make a decision about the 2024 elections but statistics shows that 29% of people in the US seem to support Republican while 33% support Democrats. Despite that, if Biden deliver very well there's chance for him to win the 2024 election.