[ANN][VRC] VeriCoin Proof of Stake-Time Currency | New Roadmap Released

[barabbas]

As usual, things happen very quickly in Crypto. And since one of the devs has addressed the subject, finally, and there's the usual dance of the butterflies, as expected, the idea is thrown. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, do not send a single cent to that address I posted (I am, in fact, destroying that wallet), because my involvement, from this time on, is NIL. ZERO. World Vericon Day is NO more.

Thanks to those who supported and to the rest, good luck with your projects. Doug, I sincerely hope you do DO World Vericoin Day. It is a great idea.
I hope you have enough time to implement it.

 Xosihc, dude, good luck at the fair. In itself, sorry, it is meaningless, but, again, thank you for doing something. Unfortunately, you "don't get the big picture".
You will eventually.

Dear Lord you type fast ! Ok before I even had a chance to respond.. you go off !  

- read back a few post - Doug : Fantastic idea... let's plan. Me love the idea... let's chat and set a date plan of attack. Xosihc I even love his idea too.  Yoshiwatusi I support VWD * edited a bit.. but you get the point.. we love your idea.

 Please try to understand what you are proposing is like launching a rocket. it takes time to plan things.. unless you want a dud  

Now since i asked about your background here is a bit about mine. I work in NY with various ad agencies, my background is advertising, design - Ask the team and some here what i have done. The reason I asked is to see how best i can use your talent / energy to help us on this major promo. * prob one of the best ideas i heard here yet. Understand that Xosihc's plan is already in progress and we can't steal his thunder either. want to help ? Help him promote. Twitter, Facebook whatever you want.

As for VWD What you are proposing is a form of guerrilla marketing / global viral aspect included. ( think of how many people we need involved)  Everything does begin with an idea, however we must plan it. Think of it this way.. i come up to you hey man, i have this great idea to design this building, bridge, product etc.. I need donation..wait..what ?? we need to rush...woah woah slow down... zero plan.. the odds are... it will fail !

Advertising is that Strategy  - we must come up with how to best engage the public. That will require planing and creativity. Hence I said realistically it will take time.

Step 1 ) Let's chat via PM.. way too many ideas plan floating up the air.. 2 ) decide what will present to the dev and community, 3 ) Now get them involved, get their ideas as well ie get final say on promo name, steps involved, tactics.  4 ) Set up and lift off !  5 ) not done yet, measure results.

That promo day can happen, most think it is a cool idea. Anytime you decide to promote a brand and create awareness, you get me psyched you will get support.

Once again man, you are obviously a man of conventional marketing. This is Crypto. In 2 weeks, we would probably have been  in the coin cemetery already if it wasn't for the MN fair idea. Like I have posted, WVD is not new, I offered weeks ago, for a fair (but significant) price to PINK. I dropped the offer and didn't take to the community for the same very reason I was dropping this one here. So there was no "inspiration" or anything like that. And no, there's no stealing any thunder either, it is put the energy into synergy and make history. Just the opposite.

And no there's no need for more time considering this will be, in effect, pure guerrilla marketing. We are putting on a show. And we are making history with it.
"Fail"? It isn't even a consideration, for it is impossible for it to fail? There's no ROI -or so minimal that it has already been more than added to the price. And it will explode much higher, even if we accomplish only a 10% of what I envision and am quite sure we can accomplish. There's no possibility of failure, none.

Now, there's much to do. Create the pamphlet, one of them so they can be printed in big amount by the leaders for very little money. A website? OK, I don't need it or care but the more the merrier. Online I am not worried, we will have the content to irrigate social networks with literature, reports, photos and videos. I do want the leaders to make of this just the starting point of an activity that has to continue the day after by contacting the people they met from local media outlets, to call them in advance, to visit the merchants with the show, in pictures of what Vericoin is becoming, and to starts seeding what World Vericoin Day 2015 is going to be.

Want to help with the pamphlet? Go ahead. You or anyone.  Why Vericoin and not Bitcoin or any other? This is, by far the most important answer we have to provide. Any other ideas? great! Lets do it. Lets start now, have it ready and rolling by tomorrow. Have the leaders starting to see the money and other forms of support coming. Get them psyched up, energized. And bringing in their own ideas. But the pamphlet, to have it translated first and printed second, the most important one now. Lets have it done by tomorrow. Devs, chime in.

[onsightit]

Xosihc, for me this as solid as your MN fair. Only that, sorry, that's too little. too local. Nothing to be made of it promotion wise. I am not putting you down at all, I am keeping the perspective. You are too close but this is just an even of no repercussion whatsoever outside of MN. Anyway if you want to believe that that is the cause of the rebound, feel free. I don't care. I care that World Vericoin Day happens. And the rebound will be much bigger. If it doesn't happen, I believe it will revisit singles again.

Well again, earlier tonight (like an hour ago) I said the rebound probably had 95% to do with VIAcoin and 5% to do with the outside events, if that. I could care less who is responsible for the rebound. It's nice to see one. Hopefully we can build off this momentum and keep it going.

I also get the MN State Fair has nothing to do with a global presence, but at the same time you can look up the numbers yourself (google: "MN state fair statistics") and you'll see a good 200,000+ people will be there that day. Even if I only talk to 1% of all people, and out of that 1% I talk to - I get 1% interested in VRC - that's still 20 more people than we started with for the day. The reality is, I think I can get a lot more than 20 people involved.

Finally, like I have been saying 1000x - I LOVE the idea of Vericoin World Day. I'm 100% down to support it. You just tell me what I need to do and I'll do my best to help.

Xosihc, here is a demographic sheet for the 2013 fair. http://www.mnstatefair.org/pdf/13_MSF_Demo_Sheet.pdf

Looks like a fairly well educated crowd, mostly middle aged.  I suppose if you are handing out VeriCoin (something with value) they are likely to try to cash out. Assuming they are not the techie types, whatever you hand out should have very simple instructions for "what to do next".  Even if it's simply a web address and/or QR code, send them somewhere to learn more: "Go to www.vericoin.info to get your wallet and learn more about VeriCoin..."

What's the address again to donate to?

Thanks for your positive vibe here!

EDIT: Maybe put it in your Sig...

[barabbas]

Xosihc, for me this as solid as your MN fair. Only that, sorry, that's too little. too local. Nothing to be made of it promotion wise. I am not putting you down at all, I am keeping the perspective. You are too close but this is just an even of no repercussion whatsoever outside of MN. Anyway if you want to believe that that is the cause of the rebound, feel free. I don't care. I care that World Vericoin Day happens. And the rebound will be much bigger. If it doesn't happen, I believe it will revisit singles again.

Well again, earlier tonight (like an hour ago) I said the rebound probably had 95% to do with VIAcoin and 5% to do with the outside events, if that. I could care less who is responsible for the rebound. It's nice to see one. Hopefully we can build off this momentum and keep it going.

I also get the MN State Fair has nothing to do with a global presence, but at the same time you can look up the numbers yourself (google: "MN state fair statistics") and you'll see a good 200,000+ people will be there that day. Even if I only talk to 1% of all people, and out of that 1% I talk to - I get 1% interested in VRC - that's still 20 more people than we started with for the day. The reality is, I think I can get a lot more than 20 people involved.

Finally, like I have been saying 1000x - I LOVE the idea of Vericoin World Day. I'm 100% down to support it. You just tell me what I need to do and I'll do my best to help.

Yopu are already doing it. Nothing else to do but be brilliant, funny -and have a photographer on the 30th. Get a lot of people's attention. I'm sure you and your friends will do great. Now, we need to cover about another 20-30 cities in the rest of the world so they would do their version of exactly the same thing.

The momentum won't be kept on its own. WE will have to do it.

(out of curiosity, what influence in VRC's price do you perceive out of VIA or other events? Have you seen VRC trade in tandem with BC for weeks? It has. Have you seen the rebound in BC compared to the one in VRC? Or even in NAUT or PINK today? Just curious)

[barabbas]

Oh and Xosihc, don't worry too much about the pamphlet, it will be ready. It will be aggressive and it will be very clear. The web address of course will be there but the web site is not made thinking the perceptions of the general population, so 99% will not pass the first click. The pamp[let will create the interest and tell them all they need to know. Hopefully we will have it ready within a day or two that why it is imperative that everyone with ideas post them asap.

[Xosihc]

Xosihc, here is a demographic sheet for the 2013 fair. http://www.mnstatefair.org/pdf/13_MSF_Demo_Sheet.pdf

Looks like a fairly well educated crowd, mostly middle aged.  I suppose if you are handing out VeriCoin (something with value) they are likely to try to cash out. Assuming they are not the techie types, whatever you hand out should have very simple instructions for "what to do next".  Even if it's simply a web address and/or QR code, send them somewhere to learn more: "Go to www.vericoin.info to get your wallet and learn more about VeriCoin..."

What's the address again to donate to?

Thanks for your positive vibe here!

EDIT: Maybe put it in your Sig...

Hey!! Thanks for finding that demographic sheet! That's definitely helpful to know. The plan is to hand out as much VRC as possible. I'm open to do both paper wallets as well as get people to download the wallet and do a QR code. I think the download and virtual send will provide more of an "experience" and would be the better route to go. Or we can do both.

Donation address is below. We currently have raised 3,000 VRC. 100% of what is donated will be passed out during the day. We have a couple weeks to plan out the rest of the day. I was talking to somebody in PM about the idea of doing a nice 5-10 minute presentation every hour on the hour kind of thing on top of helping people 1-2-1. I think there needs to be a good mix of interacting with a big crowd but also having the 1-2-1 interaction.

Thanks in advance for any donations!!

Edit: yeah we will make sure to have tons of photos. I have a friend who's a professional photographer and does seriously amazing work. We will have TONS of pictures. I've also talked to VRCRadio guy about doing a live Skype interview during the event.

[setup]

A few sites ago I've made the proposal that everybody should put a small logo on his Website, Facebook, twitter account or even in the mail signature. Something like "We support Vericoin" or "Vericoin Supporter". People are curious and some will klick on it. I have nothing to do with grafik design, but I think it's not a big problem to make such a logo. It's easy, doesn't cost anything and promotes Vericoin all over the world in seconds. So, can anybody make such a logo?

[Xosihc]

out of curiosity, what influence in VRC's price do you perceive out of VIA or other events? Have you seen VRC trade in tandem with BC for weeks? It has. Have you seen the rebound in BC compared to the one in VRC? Or even in NAUT or PINK today? Just curious

Well I think VIA has a pretty big part of it - but there are also a few other pieces to the puzzle (in my opinion)1. The weekend hype around the corner 2. The rejuvenated positive energy and 3. The price had just about hit the previous floor (6.5k). It realistically wasn't probably going any lower than that anyway - so I think all that mixed together made the prefect storm for a great day.

To be honest I don't follow the tandem of other coins moving in relation to VRC. I don't even follow NAUT or PINK. Sorry

[barabbas]

out of curiosity, what influence in VRC's price do you perceive out of VIA or other events? Have you seen VRC trade in tandem with BC for weeks? It has. Have you seen the rebound in BC compared to the one in VRC? Or even in NAUT or PINK today? Just curious

Well I think VIA has a pretty big part of it - but there are also a few other pieces to the puzzle (in my opinion)1. The weekend hype around the corner 2. The rejuvenated positive energy and 3. The price had just about hit the previous floor (6.5k). It realistically wasn't probably going any lower than that anyway - so I think all that mixed together made the prefect storm for a great day.

To be honest I don't follow the tandem of other coins moving in relation to VRC. I don't even follow NAUT or PINK. Sorry

Well, to have an opinion of that nature, with any weight, you should. Because you cannot pretend that money going into VIA affects VRC and doesn't affect other coins, like BC, with (usually) higher volume. (I still fail to see what in VIA may make you think it has any effect at all in VRC, by the way). The weekend hype -actually it has been announced BEFORE the weekend, meaning the "secret weapons" would be unveiled before Saturday-, as you put it, has done nothing for the coin at all save for a minimal -time-wise, for it was a nice 35-40% rebound- immediate reaction, not so much to any hype as to the devs are actually alive and active. and 3.- so all the other technicals that have been broken on the way down mean absolutely nothing but reaching  -almost- the previous floor, that one in particular -for there were others, below-, signaled to you that it would probably not go any lower?

Interesting way of thinking, no doubt.

Now that we all know that the price will never go below 6500, we all can rest at ease, of course, for only good things can happen if we bought somewhere in that neighborhood... WOW.

Back to things that make much more sense: No, you should NOT do any radio -other than local, not VRCRadio- on the day of the event. That brings NOTHING to teh event -the VRC community already knows about the event and no one else listens to VRCradio-. You must concentrate of the presentation/s, in getting as much people listening and participating in the raffles, giveaways, general fun, as possible. The time you have is really very small, only a few hours. They go by very quickly. Any LOCAL media, of course. but not VRCRadio. If you want, you can do VRCRadio any other day, idealistically the day before in case someone already in the VRC community has some friend or relative in MN and can push them to go-, but most definitely NOT on the day of the event or, more precisely, DURING the event hours (before or after is fine).

Wallets with a substantial amount -no less than $10, idealistically 20-25, will grab people's attention and will make them learn about crypto and VRC. If they are interested after the initial contact, they'll stay; if they are not, they won't. Next. Quite simple. But, either way, they'll be much more aware of crypto and VRC than they were before. And that is in some way the whole point.

[Xosihc]

Back to things that make much more sense: No, you should NOT do any radio -other than local, not VRCRadio- on the day of the event. That brings NOTHING to teh event -the VRC community already knows about the event and no one else listens to VRCradio-. You must concentrate of the presentation/s, in getting as much people listening and participating in the raffles, giveaways, general fun, as possible. The time you have is really very small, only a few hours. They go by very quickly. Any LOCAL media, of course. but not VRCRadio. If you want, you can do VRCRadio any other day, idealistically the day before in case someone already in the VRC community has some friend or relative in MN and can push them to go-, but most definitely NOT on the day of the event or, more precisely, DURING the event hours (before or after is fine).

Wallets with a substantial amount -no less than $10, idealistically 20-25, will grab people's attention and will make them learn about crypto and VRC. If they are interested after the initial contact, they'll stay; if they are not, they won't. Next. Quite simple. But, either way, they'll be much more aware of crypto and VRC than they were before. And that is in some way the whole point.

Well I do think you make a good point about no one outside of VRC listens to VRCRadio. The one point that could be worth while though is to mentioned to the people at the fair there even is such a thing as VRCRadio. Bringing attention to that fact cannot hurt the coin and if anything, would help promote the radio station which in turn is good for the Vericoin community as a whole.

I do see your point though - and agree with it. As for the wallets. I think having a few solid loaded ones ($10-25) would be great - but it also doesn't hurt to send people a "taste" if you will of 15-25 VRC. Basically like $1

[ScottAllyn]

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Well I do think you make a good point about no one outside of VRC listens to VRCRadio. The one point that could be worth while though is to mentioned to the people at the fair there even is such a thing as VRCRadio. Bringing attention to that fact cannot hurt the coin and if anything, would help promote the radio station which in turn is good for the Vericoin community as a whole.

I think doing a brief call-in to VRC Radio is a great idea. Many of the community members are clearly excited about this and it'll be awesome to get a live update. Plus, as you mentioned, it creates an opportunity to talk about VRC Radio with people at the fair.

Most of us view VRC Radio as a strength.

[joetothphoto]

Shinraven,

Not sure if you are the person to respond to or how you might be connected with Vericoin. But I would suggest heading over to www.letstalkbitcoin.com

Notice how I didn't give you a ref link to use.

Despite the name, it is a great community of people of all knowledge levels, who like talking and learning about Cryptocurrency. There are podcasts that cover a wide variety of topics and I think Vericoin might fit into one of those podcasts - either with ad space or an interview. It is also another avenue for you and others to bring Vericoin to a new audience and get people talking about it.

I'd certainly recommend it as I have learned so much and it has inspired me to start a social documentary project regarding Cryptocurrency.

If you have any questions, PM me.

As usual, things happen very quickly in Crypto. And since one of the devs has addressed the subject, finally, and there's the usual dance of the butterflies, as expected, the idea is thrown. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, do not send a single cent to that address I posted (I am, in fact, destroying that wallet), because my involvement, from this time on, is NIL. ZERO. World Vericon Day is NO more.

Thanks to those who supported and to the rest, good luck with your projects. Doug, I sincerely hope you do DO World Vericoin Day. It is a great idea.
I hope you have enough time to implement it.

 Xosihc, dude, good luck at the fair. In itself, sorry, it is meaningless, but, again, thank you for doing something. Unfortunately, you "don't get the big picture".
You will eventually.

Dear Lord you type fast ! Ok before I even had a chance to respond.. you go off !  

- read back a few post - Doug : Fantastic idea... let's plan. Me love the idea... let's chat and set a date plan of attack. Xosihc I even love his idea too.  Yoshiwatusi I support VWD * edited a bit.. but you get the point.. we love your idea.

 Please try to understand what you are proposing is like launching a rocket. it takes time to plan things.. unless you want a dud  

Now since i asked about your background here is a bit about mine. I work in NY with various ad agencies, my background is advertising, design - Ask the team and some here what i have done. The reason I asked is to see how best i can use your talent / energy to help us on this major promo. * prob one of the best ideas i heard here yet. Understand that Xosihc's plan is already in progress and we can't steal his thunder either. want to help ? Help him promote. Twitter, Facebook whatever you want.

As for VWD What you are proposing is a form of guerrilla marketing / global viral aspect included. ( think of how many people we need involved)  Everything does begin with an idea, however we must plan it. Think of it this way.. i come up to you hey man, i have this great idea to design this building, bridge, product etc.. I need donation..wait..what ?? we need to rush...woah woah slow down... zero plan.. the odds are... it will fail !

Advertising is that Strategy  - we must come up with how to best engage the public. That will require planing and creativity. Hence I said realistically it will take time.

Step 1 ) Let's chat via PM.. way too many ideas plan floating up the air.. 2 ) decide what will present to the dev and community, 3 ) Now get them involved, get their ideas as well ie get final say on promo name, steps involved, tactics.  4 ) Set up and lift off !  5 ) not done yet, measure results.

That promo day can happen, most think it is a cool idea. Anytime you decide to promote a brand and create awareness, you get me psyched you will get support.

[setup]

I asked twice for a Vericoin logo like "We Support Vericoin" to add it to my b2b Website, Fb and mail signature (I have nothing to do with grafik design).
I haven't even got an answer. It's so easy to promote Vericoin in a big community with small things like this, but the basics don't seem to be as interesting as a "World Vericoin Day".
I'm out, good luck!

[zsp]

I asked twice for a Vericoin logo like "We Support Vericoin" to add it to my b2b Website, Fb and mail signature (I have nothing to do with grafik design).
I haven't even got an answer. It's so easy to promote Vericoin in a big community with small things like this, but the basics don't seem to be as interesting as a "World Vericoin Day".
I'm out, good luck!

Sorry to see you go. Your idea to start from the basics make 10 times more sense than the Minnesota event or the World Vericoin Day or wtf is that I am not sure the name of that crazy idea   Your idea at least is a permanent online presence to get the word to a computer literate audience. That enthusiastic guy will go to the Minnesota event or others do the World Vericoin Day will talk max 500 people a day, 50% will understand what vericoin and bitcoin are, 10% of that will be interested to invest in something like this, from that 25 max 1-2 will go through the hassle of learning how to buy bitcoin, how to register on an exchange and how to trade the bitcoin to vericoin. They can get lucky and meet some crazy billionaire on that event or on the street, but what is the chance of that, same as winning on the lottery. No way actions like the Minnesota event or the World Vericoin Day would bring more investment than 1K $. So what the fuck that 1K $ can do for vericoin? A single news release would make more impact not to mention your idea.

This process is toxic, young 20-25 years old delusional guys think they can bring vericoin to the world    It's truly amazing they are willing to spend time to do something what they believe in, but why they want to execute those crazy business plans is beyond my understanding.

[zsp]

So what happened to the price  Last time, 7 weeks ago when I logged in the talk was about 100K Sat price, vericoin will be in the top 3 currencies, the market cap is going to be 20 million by September. Yesterday was a big party here and everyone celebrated the 15K price. What happened in a short time since the end of June that the plans and expectations have changed so much? The question is of course academic and you should ask from yourself boys and girls even not too many hot ladies here  , what happened that you are where you're.

[souljah1h]

So what happened to the price Last time, 7 weeks ago when I logged in the talk was about 100K Sat price, vericoin will be in the top 3 currencies, the market cap is going to be 20 million by September. Yesterday was a big party here and everyone celebrated the 15K price. What happened in a short time since the end of June that the plans and expectations have changed so much? The question is of course academic and you should ask from yourself boys and girls even not too many hot ladies here  , what happened that you are where you're.

Mintpal happend. Also would it be a good idea to setup a site dedicated for first time users? So when people recieve there paperwallet, direct them to that site?

[Shinraven]

I asked twice for a Vericoin logo like "We Support Vericoin" to add it to my b2b Website, Fb and mail signature (I have nothing to do with grafik design).
I haven't even got an answer. It's so easy to promote Vericoin in a big community with small things like this, but the basics don't seem to be as interesting as a "World Vericoin Day".
I'm out, good luck!

Please PM a link & specs you need I will make a banner for you. I was up pretty late on the east coast

[zsp]

So what happened to the price Last time, 7 weeks ago when I logged in the talk was about 100K Sat price, vericoin will be in the top 3 currencies, the market cap is going to be 20 million by September. Yesterday was a big party here and everyone celebrated the 15K price. What happened in a short time since the end of June that the plans and expectations have changed so much? The question is of course academic and you should ask from yourself boys and girls even not too many hot ladies here  , what happened that you are where you're.

Mintpal happend. Also would it be a good idea to setup a site dedicated for first time users? So when people recieve there paperwallet, direct them to that site?

Doesn't matter what you do with that few paper wallets and where you redirect them. You need at least 1 million $ investment, that few paper wallets won't make any differences.

You are wrong about Mintpal Sir. Perhaps Mintpal happened too, but what really happened I can tell you. What really happened is that many young delusional, over ambitious men met here and they have no idea what are they doing and talking about. I will tell you how do I know this. I visited the vericoin IRC channel about 3-4 days ago. Actually I think you and a user Galix had having a conversation there. Galix, a 23 years old guy started to explain he has a great idea, to build some new feature on the block chain, hire a developer and this new decentralized software module will sky rocket the price. Being a software person, wrote my first software program in 1969, modified lately many bitcoin pieces and libs to ARM core to run on Raspberry PI and Beaglebone Black I was curious what the "community" will tell this 23 years old Galix guy. What happened was, no one said to Galix that fuck-off, read up on at least how software development works and come back with a realistic and doable idea, but a long 30 minutes discussion started how great the idea was and how this will transfer vericoin. Look back the IRC log and you will see that I am not talking bollocks. It was bizarre that grown up men talk about some absolute bollocks. One would think AI bots talk to push the price up and try convince potential investors in case if one that kind is in the IRC room.

I read back a few pages just now. There is Buy4Crypto, he wrote several big posts about how to do business and what needs to be done with vericoin. I said, fuck me, this guy knows his stuff. Then he pushed his web site link so I took a look at it. You should do too. Buy4Crypto's web site is everything what a web site should not be in 2014. I can't even describe how bad it is, if my 16 years old grand son would give me that shit I would kick his ass very hard for that. That's not all, Buy4Crypto wrote in the next post that sorry, he can't pay for some printing job because he doesn't have money right now. Really, so your business has the most embarrassing web site, you don't have $500 and you are a VeriLeader and defining the business strategy of vericoin?

That's not all Sir, the German VeriLeader Reavon published a white paper you could read about it a few pages back. He calls that pdf white paper. That's one of the most embarrassing piece of material I have ever seen and I had seen many thousands high level software documents and currently that white paper associates with vericoin.

These guys Galix, Buy4Crypto, Reavon are the VeriLeaders. If these guys are the verileaders what you can expect from the community?

I am absolutely amazed that your young age bring out such enthusiasm and of course the energy is great, but it's just unreal how delusional this community is. Perhaps you will get lucky and whales will pump the price time to time, I will be happy for you, I have a few coins so that will be great, but this coin never will be top 5 with this delusional community.

Sorry if being too critical, I like to drink and when I do I speak out my mind   ignore this long rant if you think you are OK and you're heading to the right direction.

[buy4crypto]

I love the MN fair plan. With so many ideas ending up in non action. This is a great, great start to be DOING something, and not just saying. We need to focus on this event first, before shooting for the moon with a world day IMO. It would be nice to see if we can have a small success first, and then promote something on a larger scale once we have a tested, proven model that works for us and our coins awareness goals.

Trading hat on: 24 hours ago we struggled to find buyers at 8k. As much as the MN fair idea is great. That is not why the price moved so much. Its the weekend hype machine pumping up the release of a "secret weapon" The next few days will be incredibly telling. Either the devs finally got it, and are putting out something amazing, or this is another pump in the long line of pump / let downs we have had since late June.

[buy4crypto]

So what happened to the price Last time, 7 weeks ago when I logged in the talk was about 100K Sat price, vericoin will be in the top 3 currencies, the market cap is going to be 20 million by September. Yesterday was a big party here and everyone celebrated the 15K price. What happened in a short time since the end of June that the plans and expectations have changed so much? The question is of course academic and you should ask from yourself boys and girls even not too many hot ladies here  , what happened that you are where you're.

Mintpal happend. Also would it be a good idea to setup a site dedicated for first time users? So when people recieve there paperwallet, direct them to that site?

Doesn't matter what you do with that few paper wallets and where you redirect them. You need at least 1 million $ investment, that few paper wallets won't make any differences.

You are wrong about Mintpal Sir. Perhaps Mintpal happened too, but what really happened I can tell you. What really happened is that many young delusional, over ambitious men met here and they have no idea what are they doing and talking about. I will tell you how do I know this. I visited the vericoin IRC channel about 3-4 days ago. Actually I think you and a user Galix had having a conversation there. Galix, a 23 years old guy started to explain he has a great idea, to build some new feature on the block chain, hire a developer and this new decentralized software module will sky rocket the price. Being a software person, wrote my first software program in 1969, modified lately many bitcoin pieces and libs to ARM core to run on Raspberry PI and Beaglebone Black I was curious what the "community" will tell this 23 years old Galix guy. What happened was, no one said to Galix that fuck-off, read up on at least how software development works and come back with a realistic and doable idea, but a long 30 minutes discussion started how great the idea was and how this will transfer vericoin. Look back the IRC log and you will see that I am not talking bollocks. It was bizarre that grown up men talk about some absolute bollocks. One would think AI bots talk to push the price up and try convince potential investors in case if one that kind is in the IRC room.

I read back a few pages just now. There is Buy4Crypto, he wrote several big posts about how to do business and what needs to be done with vericoin. I said, fuck me, this guy knows his stuff. Then he pushed his web site link so I took a look at it. You should do too. Buy4Crypto's web site is everything what a web site should not be in 2014. I can't even describe how bad it is, if my 16 years old grand son would give me that shit I would kick his ass very hard for that. That's not all, Buy4Crypto wrote in the next post that sorry, he can't pay for some printing job because he doesn't have money right now. Really, so your business has the most embarrassing web site, you don't have $500 and you are a VeriLeader and defining the business strategy of vericoin?

That's not all Sir, the German VeriLeader Reavon published a white paper you could read about it a few pages back. He calls that pdf white paper. That's one of the most embarrassing piece of material I have ever seen and I had seen many thousands high level software documents and currently that white paper associates with vericoin.

These guys Galix, Buy4Crypto, Reavon are the VeriLeaders. If these guys are the verileaders what you can expect from the community?

I am absolutely amazed that your young age bring out such enthusiasm and of course the energy is great, but it's just unreal how delusional this community is. Perhaps you will get lucky and whales will pump the price time to time, I will be happy for you, I have a few coins so that will be great, but this coin will be never will be top 5 with this delusional community.

Sorry if being too critical, I like to drink and when I do I speak out my mind   ignore this long rant if you think you are OK and you're heading to the right direction.

If you must know I took a chance with an investment, I went ALL in on some options and lost, Im 31 and lost over 100k in late 2013. That was all I had in my investment account. I am in the process of picking myself back up which is why I am very low on FIAT, Everything I could scrape together this year I gathered and am attempting to make a crypto related business going forward. I am not a web developer yet. I just registered 150+ domains within the last few months and am trying to SELF TEACH myself web design while taking on many other projects. (also I spoke 2 languages, Italian / english until I was about 5, so my grammar is terrible, I apologize for that.)

I am 1 person taking on many tasks, and perhaps over extending myself a bit in the near term. I am trying my best, that is all I can do.

[Shinraven]

Thanks for the info, I am looking at the site. Lots of content. Thank you

Shinraven,

Not sure if you are the person to respond to or how you might be connected with Vericoin. But I would suggest heading over to www.letstalkbitcoin.com

Notice how I didn't give you a ref link to use.

Despite the name, it is a great community of people of all knowledge levels, who like talking and learning about Cryptocurrency. There are podcasts that cover a wide variety of topics and I think Vericoin might fit into one of those podcasts - either with ad space or an interview. It is also another avenue for you and others to bring Vericoin to a new audience and get people talking about it.

I'd certainly recommend it as I have learned so much and it has inspired me to start a social documentary project regarding Cryptocurrency.

If you have any questions, PM me.

As usual, things happen very quickly in Crypto. And since one of the devs has addressed the subject, finally, and there's the usual dance of the butterflies, as expected, the idea is thrown. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, do not send a single cent to that address I posted (I am, in fact, destroying that wallet), because my involvement, from this time on, is NIL. ZERO. World Vericon Day is NO more.

Thanks to those who supported and to the rest, good luck with your projects. Doug, I sincerely hope you do DO World Vericoin Day. It is a great idea.
I hope you have enough time to implement it.

 Xosihc, dude, good luck at the fair. In itself, sorry, it is meaningless, but, again, thank you for doing something. Unfortunately, you "don't get the big picture".
You will eventually.

Dear Lord you type fast ! Ok before I even had a chance to respond.. you go off !  

- read back a few post - Doug : Fantastic idea... let's plan. Me love the idea... let's chat and set a date plan of attack. Xosihc I even love his idea too.  Yoshiwatusi I support VWD * edited a bit.. but you get the point.. we love your idea.

 Please try to understand what you are proposing is like launching a rocket. it takes time to plan things.. unless you want a dud  

Now since i asked about your background here is a bit about mine. I work in NY with various ad agencies, my background is advertising, design - Ask the team and some here what i have done. The reason I asked is to see how best i can use your talent / energy to help us on this major promo. * prob one of the best ideas i heard here yet. Understand that Xosihc's plan is already in progress and we can't steal his thunder either. want to help ? Help him promote. Twitter, Facebook whatever you want.

As for VWD What you are proposing is a form of guerrilla marketing / global viral aspect included. ( think of how many people we need involved)  Everything does begin with an idea, however we must plan it. Think of it this way.. i come up to you hey man, i have this great idea to design this building, bridge, product etc.. I need donation..wait..what ?? we need to rush...woah woah slow down... zero plan.. the odds are... it will fail !

Advertising is that Strategy  - we must come up with how to best engage the public. That will require planing and creativity. Hence I said realistically it will take time.

Step 1 ) Let's chat via PM.. way too many ideas plan floating up the air.. 2 ) decide what will present to the dev and community, 3 ) Now get them involved, get their ideas as well ie get final say on promo name, steps involved, tactics.  4 ) Set up and lift off !  5 ) not done yet, measure results.

That promo day can happen, most think it is a cool idea. Anytime you decide to promote a brand and create awareness, you get me psyched you will get support.