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December 06, 2014, 12:14:48 PM
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I know buterin and larimer met up in vegas this yr and larimer convinced buterik about dpos maybe now is when they switch.. another notch under the belt for
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December 06, 2014, 02:31:43 PM
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I know buterin and larimer met up in vegas this yr and larimer convinced buterik about dpos maybe now is when they switch.. another notch under the belt for
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I see that as a  negative.

Bitshares had had to change itself several times for flawed assumptions. DPOS probably won't be any better than POS. And the fact that Vitalik was meeting with and changing its own model just this summer goes to show just how incoherent their whole concept is a well.
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December 06, 2014, 04:28:35 PM
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there was no Ripple pre-mine.  simple XRP creation out of thin air, distribution to themselves and others arbitrarily, and further creation just last/this year arbitrarily.

Jed left and started the non profit Stellar which was supposed to be better and non conflicted.  then Jesse left the board.  both cuz of disputes with Larson.  Larson desperately got both of them not to dump their XRP for fear of dropping the price.  Larson gets forced to donate his share of XRP to charity after Jesse called him out on it.  now Stellar forks.

the whole debt based IOU model secured by centralized gateway signing a supposed decentralized hashchain doesn't sound like it can possibly work.  why would any banks convert to this after what has happened?  the ultimate in centralization of the entire protocol down to one server?  sounds like the death knell to me.

most ppl are going to lose money in the cryptocurrency space.
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December 06, 2014, 04:36:36 PM
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ppl are getting closer to "The blockchain may only ever be applicable to Bitcoin as Money"-cypherdoc.

The fact that you are still sticking to this quote has caused me to switch from seriously respecting you to someone who can no longer take you seriously. It has already been proven time and time again that the blockchain is a brand new science that has yet to be fully explored and it's ramifications yet undiscovered. There are so many examples of how the blockchain can be used for so so much more then bitcoin as money, that your closed mindedness has me in such a serious state of shock and wonder. How is it that your mind can be so open open to Bitcoin while being so closed to it's innovations, yet be so shut down to the possibilities that the next 100 years will not expand on this innovation in more ways then humans can even begin to imagine?

Why don't you take a look at this, and tell me the blockchain is only applicable to money?

https://nxtforum.org/nxt-projects/helix-dapps-test-cp-repos/

http://finhive.com/roadmap.html
It may be easier to understand the definition of money in that quote if you read should instead of may.

Money can do amazing new things with a blockchain, but the blockchain is money as memory, your control of a percent of the conscious ledger is the money, it is only the money so long as the incentives that align to make it immutable are upheld.

Using the blockchain in new ways (Bitcoin 2.0 ideas) are novel, but it's important to distinguish between doing novel and innovative things with money (the percent of the blockchain) and using blockchain and its incentive structure to do novel things.

I don't thing cyphers quote is ignorant he has a profound understand of where the how the value forms.

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December 06, 2014, 04:59:33 PM
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https://twitter.com/cypherdoc2/status/541276604631375872/photo/1
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December 06, 2014, 05:08:09 PM
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https://twitter.com/cypherdoc2/status/541277736267186176
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December 06, 2014, 05:26:53 PM
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oh Lordy:

"My view is that no one cares about supply (how many people even know how many US dollars there are in circulation?)" said Vitalik Buterin, founder of the Ethereum project."

http://www.coindesk.com/can-bitcoins-price-ever-stable/
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December 06, 2014, 05:46:33 PM
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oh Lordy:

"My view is that no one cares about supply (how many people even know how many US dollars there are in circulation?)" said Vitalik Buterin, founder of the Ethereum project."

http://www.coindesk.com/can-bitcoins-price-ever-stable/

I remember the moment I thought about the total supply it felt like a topic no one wanted to talk about and then when you did the issue was marginalized to understanding of M0, M1, M2, and M3.

I knew it was a problem when my calculator didn't have enough digits to display the numbers involved. This was what made me realize how abstract the problem was to everyday people. That reality helped me find Bitcoin.

I guess we should leave the care taking of supply to the professionals if no one cares  Roll Eyes

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December 06, 2014, 05:52:30 PM
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oh Lordy:

"My view is that no one cares about supply (how many people even know how many US dollars there are in circulation?)" said Vitalik Buterin, founder of the Ethereum project."

http://www.coindesk.com/can-bitcoins-price-ever-stable/

Yep, this guy doesn't even know the problem he's trying to solve...

I guess.... devs gon dev  Wink

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December 06, 2014, 06:16:51 PM
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This is gonna be fun... When you buy one of his books on his site, you can get a "custom inscription" which it sounds like Jim personally hand-writes on the book. So I'll be buying one with a personal inscription regarding bitcoin that'll be utterly painful for Jim to write.

I'm taking suggestions. It can be up to 150 words.

Bitcoin is the first monetary system to credibly offer perfect information to all economic participants.
But Bitcointalk & /r/bitcoin are heavily censored. bitco.in/forum, forum.bitcoin.com, and /r/btc are open.
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December 06, 2014, 07:02:15 PM
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This is gonna be fun... When you buy one of his books on his site, you can get a "custom inscription" which it sounds like Jim personally hand-writes on the book. So I'll be buying one with a personal inscription regarding bitcoin that'll be utterly painful for Jim to write.

I'm taking suggestions. It can be up to 150 words.

lol, I'll get one with "Bitcoin to the moon!" if they ship to Europe affordably.



argh, shit:



oh yeah, I guess I'll just enter an alternative shipping address, let me see what I can do,... there's the mansion in Florida, but I wont be there for a while. Hm, maybe they ship to my castle in Estonia or the South Africa farm? I guess the Olive garden in Italy wont be shipped to either. Ah, I got it: the space station module I bought last month might be an option. Or maybe even better that moon crater I claimed.

Jesus, why is shipping shit from the states so hard? People ship from everywhere to the states for low cost. I guess exporting goods is something the US has unlearned for obvious reasons.

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This is gonna be fun... When you buy one of his books on his site, you can get a "custom inscription" which it sounds like Jim personally hand-writes on the book. So I'll be buying one with a personal inscription regarding bitcoin that'll be utterly painful for Jim to write.

I'm taking suggestions. It can be up to 150 words.

lol, I'll get one with "Bitcoin to the moon!" if they ship to Europe affordably.



I'm going to make him write something about how bitcoin is the future of money since it solves gold's tangibility bug. It'll be a fun 150 words.

Bitcoin is the first monetary system to credibly offer perfect information to all economic participants.
But Bitcointalk & /r/bitcoin are heavily censored. bitco.in/forum, forum.bitcoin.com, and /r/btc are open.
Best info on Casascius coins: http://spotcoins.com/casascius
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December 06, 2014, 07:16:00 PM
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I'm going to make him write something about how bitcoin is the future of money since it solves gold's tangibility bug. It'll be a fun 150 words.

Can you run the text by us beforehand and publish a photo afterwards?

I'm not sure he'll write it himself, though:

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Each copy is a hardcover copy and includes a personalization by the author. The perfect gift for friends and relatives, this also makes a great addition to your personal collection. Please specify your desired inscription with each order. (limit of 150 words)

Not sure that 'personalization' is actually the inscription.

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December 06, 2014, 08:45:52 PM
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This is gonna be fun... When you buy one of his books on his site, you can get a "custom inscription" which it sounds like Jim personally hand-writes on the book. So I'll be buying one with a personal inscription regarding bitcoin that'll be utterly painful for Jim to write.

I'm taking suggestions. It can be up to 150 words.

lol, I'll get one with "Bitcoin to the moon!" if they ship to Europe affordably.



I'm going to make him write something about how bitcoin is the future of money since it solves gold's tangibility bug. It'll be a fun 150 words.

That would be epic if he had to write it. Maybe special request?  Wink
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December 06, 2014, 08:53:32 PM
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Same here. what am I doing wrong?

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I guess you need to follow him on Twitter.
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Yup that would be likely the problem. Never was a problem before.  Tongue

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