Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP.

[TPTB_need_war]

it's the content of what you write that's disturbing.

your whole schtick revolves around a doom and gloom scenario where the masses simply roll over and capitulate to a corrupt, evil elite.  that's IT.  yes, you're damn right i disagree and i think you're an idiot to think so.

You haven't studied history. And you and anyone that follows you, will pay dearly for that mistake.

Reality disturbs you. So ignore it. And lose your wealth. Fine with me.

You've chosen to ignore Armstrong because you don't like the reality that history paints for us now. Fine. You like the masses will stick you head in the sand. Go for it.

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[cypherdoc]

Keep working that shovel. You are digging your hole broad and deep.

What you fail to realize is that dozens of people that comment in your thread also know me personally. And they know who I am.

They are probably cringing now as you dig your delusional fool reputation deeper.

And yes they showed up with money offers, but then I didn't need it as badly as I had before because my gold dealer released some of my funds.

talk about digging? 

who here has something to lose, in case you hadn't thought about that?  certainly not me, as i have no conflicts of interest in the space such as a business, investors, or investments other than my bitcoin.  you apparently do given your constant bragging.  i am merely here to promote Bitcoin and clarify to those willing to listen my thoughts on what is happening currently and long term.  that's it.

you, otoh, clearly have an agenda; that is to promote your supposed coding abilities and altcoin. 

so again, who is doing the digging?

[TPTB_need_war]

so again, who is doing the digging?

Keep shoveling. It is your thread right? And you are filling it up with how many pages of nonsense ad hominen squabbling.

Do you know what we do with time wasters like you in programming development cultures? We take away the keys so we never have to see you again. Because you drain away all productivity and send everything into failure mode.

[vokain]

Keep working that shovel. You are digging your hole broad and deep.
They are probably cringing now as you dig your delusional fool reputation deeper.

While I can't say the medicine wasn't worth it...

as far as my subs were concerned, they were offered a choice, buy a miner or don't.  nothing was forced upon them.  everyone has to do their own research and calculations and consider their own circumstances.  it's like all the other advice i give in the newsletter; you can choose to follow or not.  vokain above forgot to mention that in January i recommended to him personally via email that he get a refund while he had the opportunity to get one; he declined to do so and we see the results of that.

This was my choice and that's fine, I stand by that and I hope the bankruptcy will proceed okay, though I've never been part of this shit before... but on the bright side it's been a stimulating game so far. But anyway, in the interests of being forthright I have to clarify this above statement. Cypherdoc, you were a compensated representative of Hashfast at one point. There was some conflict of interest in the trust your subscribers had for you and your affiliation with that company though our end goals and interests were more or less aligned.

Regardless, the whole point of purchasing miners at that point was so that I could make more bitcoins off the bitcoins I would invest. If everything worked out, everything would've been dandy and I would've appreciated and respected your representation of HashFast and my best interests as your sub. Given the hashrate then and the purported efficiency of the Golden Nonce chip, if I were able to be the first to mine I would've made bank. Along with their guarantees of a miner protection program and BTC refunds and absolute and definite wording that they'd deliver by October 20-30, I felt it was worth the risk.

Now, come a few months later when they did not deliver, I was not about to let them ream me of the bitcoins I put down. In January, there would've been no hope to ROI positively given KNC miners, and with their broken promises, violation of the FTC mail-order cancellation rule, a dollar refund at that point in January, had I taken their dollar settlement where that scumbag Ettinger also wanted me to give up my rights to sue in addition to their obligation to me to return the sole form of payment they took that I gave them, I would've only been about to recover 1/6-1/8 the bitcoins I had put down by purchasing them again. No way.

Now I don't blame you for HashFast's behavior or any of that, and yes, you did advise me to take the refund in January and from your perspective that would've been the safest option given the circumstances and revelations that have developed up to that point so I respect that, but speaking objectively, if one were to follow the advice you gave regarding HashFast, unfortunately, they would've lost a lot of money/time.

Plus, your permabull schtick wasn't the best investment advice the past while.

[cypherdoc]

it's the content of what you write that's disturbing.

your whole schtick revolves around a doom and gloom scenario where the masses simply roll over and capitulate to a corrupt, evil elite.  that's IT.  yes, you're damn right i disagree and i think you're an idiot to think so.

You haven't studied history. And you and anyone that follows you, will pay dearly for that mistake.

Reality disturbs you. So ignore it. And lose your wealth. Fine with me.

You've chosen to ignore Armstrong because you don't like the reality that history paints for us now. Fine. You like the masses will stick you head in the sand. Go for it.

i have studied history.  and you're a loonie assuming i haven't.  go back and read the origins and beginnings of this thread, over a million views ago, where i go deeply into that.  including now every once in a while.

anyone who so definitively states the future as doom and gloom such as you either has conferences or newsletters to sell.  in your case, software.  pure nuts.  especially when it goes so against the grain of the historically phenomenal times we live in. yes, phenomenal.  you sit there and ignore the fact that you can diss me freely realtime from the Phillipines, me being in the US. since when have you been able to do that before?  the software that you write, since when has it ever been more powerful?  the funding campaigns you run, when has it been more easy or far-reaching?  answer:  NEVER.

that present is not perfect and anyone following me knows i am very much a bear on the financial mkts.  but your view of history is so upside down, how do you live day to day?  is it really that bad?

no, you are a sensationalist who thrives on scaring everybody.  and you were stupid enough to start dissing Bitcoin when it was at $13.  look where it is now.  just how smart are you?

[cypherdoc]

Keep working that shovel. You are digging your hole broad and deep.
They are probably cringing now as you dig your delusional fool reputation deeper.

While I can't say it wasn't worth the price...

as far as my subs were concerned, they were offered a choice, buy a miner or don't.  nothing was forced upon them.  everyone has to do their own research and calculations and consider their own circumstances.  it's like all the other advice i give in the newsletter; you can choose to follow or not.  vokain above forgot to mention that in January i recommended to him personally via email that he get a refund while he had the opportunity to get one; he declined to do so and we see the results of that.

This was my choice and that's fine, I stand by that and I hope the bankruptcy will proceed okay, though I've never been part of this shit before... but on the bright side it's been a stimulating game so far. But anyway, in the interests of being forthright I have to clarify this above statement. Cypherdoc, you were a compensated representative of Hashfast at one point. There was some conflict of interest in the trust your subscribers had for you and your affiliation with that company though our end goals and interests were more or less aligned.

Regardless, the whole point of purchasing miners at that point was so that I could make more bitcoins off the bitcoins I would invest. If everything worked out, everything would've been dandy and I would've appreciated and respected your representation of HashFast and my best interests as your sub. Given the hashrate then and the purported efficiency of the Golden Nonce chip, if I were able to be the first to mine I would've made bank. Along with their guarantees of a miner protection program and BTC refunds and absolute and definite wording that they'd deliver by October 20-30, I felt it was worth the risk.

Now, come a few months later when they did not deliver, I was not about to let them ream me of the bitcoins I put down. In January, there would've been no hope to ROI positively given KNC miners, and with their broken promises, violation of the FTC mail-order cancellation rule, a dollar refund at that point in January, had I taken their dollar settlement where that scumbag Ettinger also wanted me to give up my rights to sue in addition to their obligation to me to return the sole form of payment they took that I gave them, I would've only been about to recover 1/6-1/8 the bitcoins I had put down by purchasing them again. No way.

Now I don't blame you for HashFast's behavior or any of that, and yes, you did advise me to take the refund in January and from your perspective that would've been the safest option given the circumstances and revelations that have developed up to that point so I respect that, but speaking objectively, if one were to follow the advice you gave regarding HashFast, unfortunately, they would've lost a lot of money/time.

Plus, your permabull schtick wasn't the best investment advice the past while.
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so where do you want to go with this Antony?

[vokain]

I don't know, but I'm happy to find out.

[cypherdoc]

I don't know, but I'm happy to find out.

i hate to say it, but iCE is right about you guys.

[vokain]

I don't know, but I'm happy to find out.

i hate to say it, but iCE is right about you guys.

Maybe we're all sort of right about each other :p

What are audiences for, if not to mirror?

[cypherdoc]

so again, who is doing the digging?

Keep shoveling. It is your thread right? And you are filling it up with how many pages of nonsense ad hominen squabbling.

Do you know what we do with time wasters like you in programming development cultures? We take away the keys so we never have to see you again. Because you drain away all productivity and send everything into failure mode.

isn't this contradictory, not to mention inaccurate?  you are the one taking up all the thread space, in case you hadn't noticed.  when you're supposed to be "coding".  someone needs to take away your keys.

[TPTB_need_war]

so where do you want to go with this Antony?

Cypherdoc did you buy Mastercoin  or NXT in the IPO?

I don't really know what is going on here, but I suspect you have some skeletons in your closet you wouldn't want revealed here...given your Bitcoin-only mantra...

isn't this contradictory, not to mention inaccurate?  you are the one taking up all the thread space, in case you hadn't noticed.  when you're supposed to be "coding".  someone needs to take away your keys.

I wear two hats, marketing and coding (well several hats).

And you are a controller of minds. Readers beware.

[cypherdoc]

so where do you want to go with this Antony?

Cypherdoc did you buy Mastercoin  or NXT in the IPO?

no

[TPTB_need_war]

so where do you want to go with this Antony?

Cypherdoc did you buy Mastercoin  or NXT in the IPO?

no

Can you promise to never buy an alt under any circumstances?

Note I haven't been able to read all 1300 pages of this thread. Is that all you do with your life?

[cypherdoc]

so where do you want to go with this Antony?

Cypherdoc did you buy Mastercoin  or NXT in the IPO?

no

Can you promise to never buy an alt under any circumstances?

why would i ever do that?

[cypherdoc]

Is that all you do with your life?

you can't be serious with that question.

[vokain]

so where do you want to go with this Antony?

Cypherdoc did you buy Mastercoin  or NXT in the IPO?

no

Can you promise to never buy an alt under any circumstances?

Note I haven't been able to read all 1300 pages of this thread. Is that all you do with your life?

No, he's an ophthalmologist with a family as far as I know. Dr. Lowe's taught me quite a bit outside of this thread.

[TPTB_need_war]

so where do you want to go with this Antony?

Cypherdoc did you buy Mastercoin  or NXT in the IPO?

no

Can you promise to never buy an alt under any circumstances?

why would i ever do that?

Ambiguous reply. Please clarify whether "that" means "promise" or "buy an alt under any circumstances"?

Are you intentionally being ambiguous or just your usual failure with language and reading skills.

[TPTB_need_war]

so where do you want to go with this Antony?

Cypherdoc did you buy Mastercoin  or NXT in the IPO?

no

Can you promise to never buy an alt under any circumstances?

Note I haven't been able to read all 1300 pages of this thread. Is that all you do with your life?

No, he's an ophthalmologist with a family as far as I know. Dr. Lowe's taught me quite a bit outside of this thread.

An ophthalmologist slandering and arguing about software technology and marketing with a 33 years experience programmer (37 years since first read computer science books) who had million user commercial programs success when the internet was 10X smaller population. And ignoring and slandering the preeminent historian of our era who spent $10 million just on constructing an accurate silver chart of the Roman empire.

I am blind in one eye. Maybe we should talk about that and I should tell you how stupid you are about eyes? Geez.

Note doctors have a very strong vested interest in society not crumbling, because not many people are going to pay for their overpriced insurance driven services after the collapse. And Cypherdoc is going to have his savings expropriated from him due to his tunnel vision and ignoring experts.

[vokain]

Sounds like you two were made for each other 

[TPTB_need_war]

Sounds like you two were made for each other 

 

Haha you are cruel. It reminds of the rats in the face mask in Silence of the Lambs.