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June 07, 2015, 04:18:25 PM
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if you believe in the concept of forum plants, then TPTB_need_war fits the bill to a tee.

i don't know about Shelby Moore but i still think his acct could be mulitply owned and used to troll me down.  the sleep charts i put up yesterday still hold.  read about how their goal is to insert, befriend, divide and cause turmoil and division.  this thread used to be a relatively peaceful place other than the occasional food fight i'd have with tvbcof.  now look what it's become since TPTB_need_war showed up.  as JR says, a trainwreck.  he spams multiple pages on end and is willing to say anything at all.

it all fits and if i have to be the sacrificial lamb to prove it, so be it.  that is his intention after all; to discredit at all costs those who support the community the most.
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if you believe in the concept of forum plants, then TPTB_need_war fits the bill to a tee.

i don't know about Shelby Moore but i still think his acct could be mulitply owned and used to troll me down.  the sleep charts i put up yesterday still hold.  read about how their goal is to insert, befriend, divide and cause turmoil and division.  this thread used to be a relatively peaceful place other than the occasional food fight i'd have with tvbcof.  now look what it's become since TPTB_need_war showed up.  as JR says, a trainwreck.

it all fits and if i have to be the sacrificial lamb to prove it, so be it.  that is his intention after all; to discredit at all costs those who support the community the most.


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if you believe in the concept of forum plants, then TPTB_need_war fits the bill to a tee.

i don't know about Shelby Moore but i still think his acct could be mulitply owned and used to troll me down.  the sleep charts i put up yesterday still hold.  read about how their goal is to insert, befriend, divide and cause turmoil and division.  this thread used to be a relatively peaceful place other than the occasional food fight i'd have with tvbcof.  now look what it's become since TPTB_need_war showed up.  as JR says, a trainwreck.

it all fits and if i have to be the sacrificial lamb to prove it, so be it.  that is his intention after all; to discredit at all costs those who support the community the most.



Interesting symbol the one on the right. It states the name "ΚΑΛΛΙΣΤΙ" which IIRC the proper writing would've been "ΚΑΛΛΙΣΤΩ". In Greek Mythology "Καλλιστώ"(=Calisto)  was the daughter of the king of Arcadia, Lycaon. Her name came from the word "ΚΑΛΛΟΣ" which in essence means "extraordinary beauty".

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The word ΤΗΙ ΚΑΛΛΙΣΤΗΙ (Ancient Greek: τῇ καλλίστῃ tē(i) kallistē(i), Modern Greek: τη καλλίστη ti kallisti; "for/to the most beautiful") was inscribed on the Golden Apple of Discord by Eris.
http://www.rawilson.com/illuminatus.html#apple

Ironic that this thread is about gold collapsing, when the alchemical pursuit has always been the symbolic process of turning lead into gold.

edit: sorry, 'wrong' excerpt Tongue

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"Part of it is Chinese," Saul said thoughtfully. "The basic design— two interlocking commas, one
pointing up and the other down. It means that opposites are equal."

"And what does that mean?" Muldoon asked sarcastically. "Opposites are opposite, not equal. You'd
have to be a Chinaman to think otherwise."

Saul ignored the comment. "But the pentagon isn't in the Chinese design— and neither is the apple
with the K in it. . . ." Suddenly, he grinned. "Wait, I'll bet I know what that is. It's from Greek
mythology. There was a banquet on Olympus, and Eris wasn't invited, because she was the Goddess
of Discord and always made trouble. So, to get even, she made more trouble: she created a beautiful
golden apple and wrote on it Kallisti. That means 'for the prettiest one' in Greek. It's what the K
stands for, obviously. Then she rolled it into the banquet hall, and, naturally, all the goddesses there
immediately claimed it, each one saying that she was 'the prettiest one.' Finally, old man Zeus
himself, to settle the squabble, allowed Paris to decide which goddess was the prettiest and should
get the apple. He chose Aphrodite, and as a reward she gave him an opportunity to kidnap Helen,
which led to the Trojan War."

"Very interesting," Muldoon said. "And does that tell us what Joseph Malik knew about the
assassinations of the Kennedys and this Illuminati bunch and why his office was blown up? Or where
he's disappeared to?"

"Well, no," Saul said, "but it's nice to find something in this case that I can recognize. I just wish I
knew what the pentagon means, too. . . ."

"Let's look at the rest of the memos," Muldoon suggested.

"Thank God we don't descend down from perfect Adam & Eve to sinful sinner, Brother's Keeper, divided slave! United, hardworking-trained-brave, from dust we ascend up! Thank God for that! Our Brother's Teacher of the Moral ABC mason Hillel taught carpenter Jesus to unite all mankind free!"
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PS: Truly wondrous place the human mind

War in The Mind

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Besides, pwuille, nullc, lukejr, and petertodd don't need my help bending you over and administering corrective spankings.  They're already doing a great job of that.

They make the same points I made in this thread. Why? Because we are all expert programmers and understand the myriad of (often interlocking and conflicting) details that eye doctors and junior programmers don't.

Btw those linked points by core devs make  the case for the need for a scalable design for crypto-currency.

everyone should read those 3 links.  i have the most upvotes of the community; votes which include those of programmers and those who disagree with me as it is a net difference.

i used to be intimidated engaging those with a programming background.  somehow i thought that anything they said would be backed up by some computer simulation or research data i didn't have access to.  or some basic computer knowledge that i had not been trained in.  after all, in my profession before anyone dares spout any claims there has to be a double blinded comprehensive treatment control study done over a prolonged period of time that needs to prove statistical significance that one has done or can point to have been done.

i've learned, most disappointedly, that this is not the case for most coders and programmers.  what they claim or tout to be fact is simply a logic test.  armchair logic.  like the Peter Todd's of the world and TPTB_need_war.  they don't do any testing or simulations of any kind.  they think that their logic is somehow superior to non coders.  and they think simply by applying logic they can understand how Bitcoin will perform.  well, they have mostly all been wrong.  very few of them saw it.  and not TPTB_need_war.  he needs to explain how someone like me, a non coder, figured this out before he did.  granted, i am pretty good with computers and even better now since 2011.  but i will tell you, it was mostly my knowledge around economics, trading, and game theory which allowed me to figure out that Bitcoin had so much promise.  but what is clear from TPTB's comments is that he totally rejects that.  that is called arrogance or hubris.  or more likely obfuscation from a plant.  please re-read how bizarre his posts truly are.  it's baffling. 
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could it be that we are actually talking to Martin Armstrong himself?  maybe that would explain the blind allegiance.
here is an interesting compilation of his prison writings.  and this was the very first one i pulled up!  whats the chances of them both being blind in one eye?  from an eye doctor:

https://www.scribd.com/kzuur58:

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could it be that we are actually talking to Martin Armstrong himself?  maybe that would explain the blind allegiance.
here is an interesting compilation of his prison writings.  and this was the very first one i pulled up!  whats the chances of them both being blind in one eye?  from an eye doctor:

https://www.scribd.com/kzuur58:

Have you ever heard the saying, "in lak'ech ala k'in"?

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could it be that we are actually talking to Martin Armstrong himself?  maybe that would explain the blind allegiance.
here is an interesting compilation of his prison writings.  and this was the very first one i pulled up!  whats the chances of them both being blind in one eye?  from an eye doctor:

https://www.scribd.com/kzuur58:

Have you ever heard the saying, "in lak'ech ala k'in"?

"I am you, and you are me"... Mayan philosophy.

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That's my favorite song by my favorite band Smiley

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could it be that we are actually talking to Martin Armstrong himself?  maybe that would explain the blind allegiance.
here is an interesting compilation of his prison writings.  and this was the very first one i pulled up!  whats the chances of them both being blind in one eye?  from an eye doctor:

https://www.scribd.com/kzuur58:

Have you ever heard the saying, "in lak'ech ala k'in"?

given that you willingly interjected yourself into the conversation to provoke me, then fully doxxed me, then lied about not having a multi-6-figure ongoing claim against HF, do you really think you have the moral high ground to wax philosophical?
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could it be that we are actually talking to Martin Armstrong himself?  maybe that would explain the blind allegiance.
here is an interesting compilation of his prison writings.  and this was the very first one i pulled up!  whats the chances of them both being blind in one eye?  from an eye doctor:

https://www.scribd.com/kzuur58:

Have you ever heard the saying, "in lak'ech ala k'in"?

given that you willingly interjected yourself into the conversation to provoke me, then fully doxxed me, then lied about not having a multi-6-figure ongoing claim against HF, do you really think you have the moral high ground to wax philosophical?

"Now look what you made me do." Roll Eyes

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sheesh, i know the feeling:

According to lawyers who worked on the case in the early days, the financier’s headstrong manner irritated Judge Owen almost immediately."[10] On August 17, 2006, he pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy to commit securities fraud, commodities fraud and wire fraud.[2][11]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_A._Armstrong
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June 07, 2015, 06:44:54 PM
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if you believe in the concept of forum plants, then TPTB_need_war fits the bill to a tee.

i don't know about Shelby Moore but i still think his acct could be mulitply owned and used to troll me down.  the sleep charts i put up yesterday still hold.  read about how their goal is to insert, befriend, divide and cause turmoil and division.  this thread used to be a relatively peaceful place other than the occasional food fight i'd have with tvbcof.  now look what it's become since TPTB_need_war showed up.  as JR says, a trainwreck.  he spams multiple pages on end and is willing to say anything at all.

it all fits and if i have to be the sacrificial lamb to prove it, so be it.  that is his intention after all; to discredit at all costs those who support the community the most.
Trolled so hard I have to I can't help myself LOL, you don't always go on holiday with the best people cypher.

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hmmm, there's that $10000 number again:

Armstrong didn’t tell anyone about pi. He kept it a secret for twelve years, and he continued to sell his services as a consultant at up to ten thousand dollars an hour.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2009/10/12/the-secret-cycle
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June 07, 2015, 07:01:12 PM
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Shelby sure does love Armstrong.  anyone ever heard of pen names?:

I don't know if anyone else has commented already, that Martin Armstrong's "It Is Just Time" prediction made back in October 2008, for a major turn event on March 19, nailed the exact day (after) the Fed announced to start buying government bonds directly.

He had also predicted ahead of time the turn that coincided with the peak in the precious metals prices last March 2008.

Google "Martin Armstrong", for the remarkable story about how accurate his computer model predictions have been, and him being in the maximum security prison without a trial, together with the Shoe Bomber and the Unibomber, alledgedly because of his unwillingness to share his model with the CIA.


http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/03.09/justtime.html

and why is Shelby playing around so much with silver and gold when he is supposed to be coding?
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i know everyone has better things to do but if you have time, you should read those prison writings from Armstrong.  to me, and i could be imagining things, they sound alot like TPTB.  i honestly don't know what to think; all i know is something feels quite fishy:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/29561727/From-the-Hole-8

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June 07, 2015, 07:35:04 PM
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Armstrong doesn't like Bitcoin:

We are headed into an electronic currency regardless of what people say. Bitcoin will not survive, but it is useful to get people accustomed to a cashless society. The difference will be that the government version will be no “anonymity”  and what it being touted as a benefit is the elimination of crime – drug dealers will be eradicated (plus the government will get 100% of all its taxes).

The precious metals are NOT going to be a hedge against the dollar, hyperinflation, or any of the other nonsense the gold promoters have spun to sell whatever they can like snake oil salesmen. The role of the metals will be as an alternative currency to ELECTRONIC when they terminate “printing” paper money. Wake up and stop listening to propaganda. Open your eyes and look at the real world. It is closing in a hell of a lot faster than people suspect.


http://armstrongeconomics.com/archives/15830
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June 07, 2015, 07:40:01 PM
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from today.  TPTB and Armstrong think in lockstep about Summers:

We are simply drowning with people in charge who have no real world experience. According to the former US Treasury Secretary and Harvard economist Larry Summers “the world suffers from a savings surplus and therefore threatens to fall into a secular stagnation.” He looks at the world through fogged glasses – not even a rose colored pair. He claims that now for decades to come we will have to adjust accordingly to slower economic growth and increasing economic and social problems. The reason for this is that in some countries such as China and Germany, people saved too much, rather than consume or to invest. Therefore, they exported their savings abroad and thus led to an oversupply of savings, for there is no sufficient demand. Summers’ solution –  the cash-free economy.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/armstrong_economics_blog
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