Tau-Chain and Agoras Official Thread: Generalized P2P Network

[ICOcountdown.com]

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[gerb]

A good interview with good questions for non-developers:
https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/lets-talk-bitcoin-261-understanding-tauchains

That was in November 2015.
I hope Ohad can make more interviews like that. If someone found interviews like this please share.

[ohad]

A good interview with good questions for non-developers:
https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/lets-talk-bitcoin-261-understanding-tauchains

That was in November 2015.
I hope Ohad can make more interviews like that. If someone found interviews like this please share.

more on this playlist https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLav2klOnTUlN6UynNT-_8hTs1FtF0fGbl
and soon, even more..

[ohad]

someone registered a scam asset on xcp https://blockscan.com/assetInfo/TAUCHAIN

they issued many faked ones https://blockscan.com/address/1KzSwa6PtGhaYykCjHf2e8eN3Xoj5LqQhB

[jasemoney]

http://bravenewcoin.com/news/tau-chain-a-programmers-perspective/
Writeup yesterday from bravenewcoin.com

My takeaway is that Ohad and company are super smart, the writer is also smart. Tau has a lot to live up to. It's hard to describe. And for some reason the author thinks Tau is spammy. I haven't gotten that vibe and I'm on twitter a lot. The tau hash tags are relatively quiet and so is BCT. Where are you guys being loud?

[ohad]

http://bravenewcoin.com/news/tau-chain-a-programmers-perspective/
Writeup yesterday from bravenewcoin.com

My takeaway is that Ohad and company are super smart, the writer is also smart. Tau has a lot to live up to. It's hard to describe. And for some reason the author thinks Tau is spammy. I haven't gotten that vibe and I'm on twitter a lot. The tau hash tags are relatively quiet and so is BCT. Where are you guys being loud?

we discussed this funny writeup on tau's fb group https://www.facebook.com/groups/tauchain/permalink/1148260258559435/

[ICOcountdown.com]

The article definately has many inconsistancies.

[ohad]

thanks for mr icocountdown http://www.joomag.com/magazine/core-media/M0108470001440992518
screenshots (instead of invoking a flash player):

[ICOcountdown.com]

thanks for mr icocountdown http://www.joomag.com/magazine/core-media/M0108470001440992518
screenshots (instead of invoking a flash player):

Glad you like it! I also mention agoras in this interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1951&v=ruOe4kN7SLo

[Rw13enlib88]

Hi,

First time checking TauChain and I have some questions

1) No PoW/PoS, No wallets because AGRS is still a pre-token ?

2) I've read in the Zennet last post that total supply will move to 147,000,000,000
Is that still ok?

3) I've checked Bittrex, but it's only available to buy 384,815. That's less than 1% of 42,000,000
In the distribution the biggest address has 447,900.
Where are the rest of the coins?

Thanks for you answers!

Updating the Presale Terms

Dear Community,

About +1yr ago I published Zennet's design.

So we do not sell Zennet coins anymore, and all previous buyers will get Agora, offering no less but much more technological and economical features. The current sale terms are as follows: From now on, we sell 50% of coins for approx $2M: The current price is $100 for 3.5 million (3,500,000) Agora coins, and will go up in 2% every week. Total number of coins is 147,000,000,000.

[ohad]

1) No PoW/PoS, No wallets because AGRS is still a pre-token ?

right, the current token is only intermediate. the final network will of course require POW

2) I've read in the Zennet last post that total supply will move to 147,000,000,000
Is that still ok?

yes. the final amout of coins doesnt matter. the 42M intermediate tokens represent 100% of future coins whatever their amount will be

3) I've checked Bittrex, but it's only available to buy 384,815. That's less than 1% of 42,000,000
In the distribution the biggest address has 447,900.
Where are the rest of the coins?

rest of the coins are simply not on held bittrex

[Rw13enlib88]

3) I've checked Bittrex, but it's only available to buy 384,815. That's less than 1% of 42,000,000
In the distribution the biggest address has 447,900.
Where are the rest of the coins?

rest of the coins are simply not on held bittrex

and they are held in omniwallet? because wallets are not available right?

what % is still in hands of the foundation?
(3% premine; 1% 3rd party proyects; 2% Foundation)
Is there any big investor holding more than 10% of AGRS?

Why only one exchange? This coin is good enougth to be atleast in 3/4 exchanges 

[jibble]

3) I've checked Bittrex, but it's only available to buy 384,815. That's less than 1% of 42,000,000
In the distribution the biggest address has 447,900.
Where are the rest of the coins?

rest of the coins are simply not on held bittrex

and they are held in omniwallet? because wallets are not available right?

what % is still in hands of the foundation?
(3% premine; 1% 3rd party proyects; 2% Foundation)
Is there any big investor holding more than 10% of AGRS?

Why only one exchange? This coin is good enougth to be atleast in 3/4 exchanges 

I don't even think the current total amount of AGRS sold is over 6% , never mind over 10% to 1 person

[Rw13enlib88]

3) I've checked Bittrex, but it's only available to buy 384,815. That's less than 1% of 42,000,000
In the distribution the biggest address has 447,900.
Where are the rest of the coins?

rest of the coins are simply not on held bittrex

and they are held in omniwallet? because wallets are not available right?

what % is still in hands of the foundation?
(3% premine; 1% 3rd party proyects; 2% Foundation)
Is there any big investor holding more than 10% of AGRS?

Why only one exchange? This coin is good enougth to be atleast in 3/4 exchanges 

I don't even think the current total amount of AGRS sold is over 6% , never mind over 10% to 1 person

interesting...

so you are saying dev still holds 94% of AGRSs?

So we do not sell Zennet coins anymore, and all previous buyers will get Agora,
offering no less but much more technological and economical features.
The current sale terms are as follows: From now on, we sell 50% of coins for approx $2M: The current price is $100 for 3.5 million (3,500,000) Agora coins, and will go up in 2% every week. Total number of coins is 147,000,000,000.

This sale will go into BTC address 1BzwxgzrdiW5Gdc3kfoUgxeHAhRjnMmrVs and everything will be calculated according to the BTC/USD rate at the moment of transfar (according to blockchain.info website showing the tx value at the time transacted). All past private buyers have bought on significantly higher prices, and will be compensated and get 25% retroactive discount over this current price.

We will issue an intermediate token over Counterparty, each single token will represent 3500 Agoras.
EDIT: We're on Omni http://www.idni.org/blog/omni

The process of purchasing is as follows: email me to ohad@idni.org (yeah that’s my new email, but you can still reach me at ohadasor@gmail.com), I’ll send you an agreement, reply to me that you agree, specify a name and country of residence of whom to write a tax receipt in behalf to (of course I have nothing to do with private details, I just need name and country to write on the receipt), transfer the coins, and send me the txid so I’ll know to associate it with you. Then I’ll send you the Counterparty tokens to the address you’ll ask me to, or to the sender’s address by default.
I’m doing it all manually for several reasons, so please understand if processing your request takes a few days. Because of that, please do not begin the process if you plan to purchase with less than $25.
Previous buyers, I'll contact you to send you the tokens, please contact me first when you see this messege.

the btc address BzwxgzrdiW5Gdc3kfoUgxeHAhRjnMmrVs is receiving btc

So dev, please explain.

1) How is the coin distributed?
Zennet                                 -%
(Presale?/Bittrex?)             50%
X                                           x%
2) How many coins are still at sale and at what price?
3) Any financial institution between investors?

[ohad]

so you are saying dev still holds 94% of AGRSs?

1) How is the coin distributed?
Zennet                                 -%
(Presale?/Bittrex?)             50%
X                                           x%
2) How many coins are still at sale and at what price?
3) Any financial institution between investors?

so far ~7M tokens were sold. if you want to track down how many sold in different milestones, see the blog on idni.org. in general there is no distinction between buyers on zennet's time to tau's time. presale is for all tokens (namely 97% not counting the "premine"). to see the latest price calculations cf the end of the "project roadmap" blogpost.
i didn't understand the last question

[Rw13enlib88]

so you are saying dev still holds 94% of AGRSs?

1) How is the coin distributed?
Zennet                                 -%
(Presale?/Bittrex?)             50%
X                                           x%
2) How many coins are still at sale and at what price?
3) Any financial institution between investors?

so far ~7M tokens were sold. if you want to track down how many sold in different milestones, see the blog on idni.org. in general there is no distinction between buyers on zennet's time to tau's time. presale is for all tokens (namely 97% not counting the "premine"). to see the latest price calculations cf the end of the "project roadmap" blogpost.
i didn't understand the last question

 
More than 90% in devs hand, that's a lot even if you dont follow the cryptospace financial structure

20centsx5weeksx5%=25cents of $ ?

Still, early buyers have to be incentivized. We had a weekly 2% raise in price and recently suspended it. But from May 1 the price per token we sell at will be 20 cents, going up 5% monthly (recall it has nothing to do with prices people sell at on the exchange). Beginning from today we offer the following wholesale discount: every additional 10K tokens will give additional 5% discount. So if one purchases 30K tokens, the price for the first 10K is the regular price, then a 5% discount on the next 10K tokens, then 10% discount on the subsequent 10K tokens. All purchasers via email receive a tax invoice with their desired recipient name. A buyer that agrees not to receive the intermediate tokens but only the final coins gets additional 15% discount. The total marginal discount will never go below 50% (as to be fair with earlier buyers).

[ohad]

More than 90% in devs hand, that's a lot even if you dont follow the cryptospace financial structure

20centsx5weeksx5%=25cents of $ ?

i dont understand your calculations

[Rw13enlib88]

More than 90% in devs hand, that's a lot even if you dont follow the cryptospace financial structure

7M/ 42M= ~16%

sorry, 84%

20centsx5weeksx5%=25cents of $ ?

Still, early buyers have to be incentivized. We had a weekly 2% raise in price and recently suspended it. But from May 1 the price per token we sell at will be 20 cents, going up 5% monthly /quote]

sorry again,  needa rest

21cents$

[jibble]

 
More than 90% in devs hand, that's a lot even if you dont follow the cryptospace financial structure

This is like a standard IPO except the rules of distribution are slightly tweaked as this is a long duration IPO this gives plenty of time for investors to buy in so no one can complain about missing it if it has been available to buy not for 1 months but for over 8 months now and possibly even more than another 5+ months

It has been noted before , these coins are representations of tokens that will be converted at the time the economical aspect of tau-chain is implemented . Unsold coins will be destroyed if they are  not sold

[Rw13enlib88]

 
More than 90% in devs hand, that's a lot even if you dont follow the cryptospace financial structure

This is like a standard IPO except the rules of distribution are slightly tweaked as this is a long duration IPO this gives plenty of time for investors to buy in so no one can complain about missing it if it has been available to buy not for 1 months but for over 8 months now and possibly even more than another 5+ months

It has been noted before , these coins are representations of tokens that will be converted at the time the economical aspect of tau-chain is implemented . Unsold coins will be destroyed if they are  not sold

I see a problem there.

Obviously every coin is gonna be sold because we gonna live the next btc adoption during the next 5 months, and that means millions on new people coming to the cryptos.

the problem is that your "institutional" IPO (only 10k lots) will have a cheaper price than the market and some wealthy pockets will buy from you and sell in the market.

Let's imagine:
In one month:
500$     = 1btc --> 22cents$ = 0.00044btc = 440,000sat
1,000$  = 1btc --> 22cents$ = 0.00022btc = 220,000sat
5,000$ = 1btc --> 22cents$ = 0.0044btc    =   44,000sat
10,000$ = 1btc-> 22cents$ = 0.0022btc    =   22,000sat


As you can imagine if the price of btc goes up until 1,000$-10,000$, the price of AGRS will follow the uptrend path.

AGRS Free market price (up) vs "institutional IPO" (down)

If you agree with this situation I would like to reserve all the stake on sale. I'll pay it, once btc achieves 3,000$/btc

If you wanna fix it, I would lock the price of the pre-sale to btc not to $.