Hey Tecshare, if you haven't sent my last order yet I'd love to throw you $5 more in LTC for one of these sets. I've wanted a good set for some time now, just never felt like spending a premium for them. This seems like a pretty nice deal, and with a positive review under your belt about the materials it doesn't seem like something I can pass up.

Could you quote me an LTC price and an address?

I recently took 4- Speakers, a radio and the wire harness out of my car and was looking to sell them as long as the price is fair. Is this something you would be potentially interested in? It seems like you're pretty close in terms of shipping, and I have a lot of things I'm looking to pawn that others may find valuable. I was speaking with ha gentlemen from Africa about a similar deal, but it fell through because of shipping prices being too large an obstacle for the two of us.

I also have many iPhones of previous generations, some cracked, but a few are in perfect condition. I have old desktops, laptops, televisions, monitors, cables, adapters, connectors, controllers, game systems, games, old collectible sport cards. The list goes on and on, we could speakk more about specifics viia PM or a chat program.

As someone else stated though, escrow will definitely be a must unless you're interested in going first for a couple members to review your service at the very least, this will definitely not ease everyone, but it would be a phenomenal show of faith. Escrow will be necessary at the very least, as long as that is cool with you we should have no problem making something happen (assuming you're interested in my stuff).

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Sometimes history repeats itself, and sometimes things are simpler than they seem. I believe these are both going to be great descriptive terms for the new year and bitcoin; I've said it before, but I'll reiterate, I have never seen so much news about bitcoin and seen so many everyday folks speaking about bitcoin and cryptocurrencies. They have very recently become a household name, and are increasing in popularity like never before. With popularity and the crazy upwards price we've always experienced wee are bound to get a lot more demand for bitcoin which means the price is going up in my opinion.

Obviously the price will be moving up and down throughout the year, but I do believe that it's going to keep up it's regular pattern of high volatility, but upwards overall. I think 2018 is going to be another mass-adoption year, possibly bigger than any we've seen prior because of the recent big investors, new platforms and means to invest/trade bitcoin. We're going to remain on thee same path we've been on since the beginning, although I do see the transaction fees becoming a bigger problem in 2018 until hopefully something is done about it in some capacity. In short, I see more of the same in the new, and that is nothing but a good thing. With the new year, there is always temporarily increased optimism and this may increase buy orders for bitcoin, or even the amount HODLers are HODLing, but overall everything points up. The market has been pretty relaxed since the new year, but everyone has to make it home from vacation before they start hitting the markets.

You read this quote from this humble and thankful user and your conclusion is that they're trolling. I don't see what you're seeing, and I don't agree with what you're saying either. I've been making a healthy $20 a day or so, just from buying low and selling high. I've been following the more overt patterns of the market, and it rides pretty consistent wave rolling up and down 2000-4000. I don't buy and sell all day, I just buy or sell a chunk of my coin once a day or every other day depending on the market movement. Slow and steady, the bitcoin market moves powerfully enough to really make a small investment mean a lot. I only keep about $500 on the exchange, and I frequently profit $100 or more on a single cycle.

If you're patient and do not panic whenever the bitcoin price moves a few hundred dollars you'll be able to make your money work for you. Settings goals is always a good thing, but when you start stressing out about earning an exact $ figure each day off of very limited capital you will start to make mistakes out off frustration and desperation. You do not want to get yourself into the vicious cycle of emotional trading, because you'll end up broke and very unhappy. Let the market treat you well, bee patient for your profit and do not act like you're owed anything. Take it as it comes, do not get greedy, do not think the market will bend to your will and you should be okay.

For example, about 4-days ago I bought some coin at $12,800 and just a few minutes ago I sold that same coin for $15,200. We'll see if it was a good trade to sell it now, but I'm pretty sure we're going back down a couple thousand and then I'll do it again. I sometimes wait days for a trade, but the profit is good, it's very relaxed and it can be scaled up very well.

I'm no linguist, but it definitely sounds like you believe that "running away" with your money isn't in the cards for one of the larger exchanges, but let me be the guy that repeats himself; the biggest losses, hacks, scams have come from the place that everyone least expects. It is actually quite often that these big exchanges have security breaches, attacks, hacks, or just exit-scam themselves. When there is that much money and bitcoin circulating into one place it's a concentration point for hackers and anyone who figures out a small-exploit that wishes to scale it up.

I've said my piece for the most part, but I would like to say that big exchanges have disappeared in front of my eyes many times, leaving people in awe and class-action lawsuits that go no where. I've dealt with a few smaller exchanges, and watched plenty of them operate and I'll say that I definitely think that small exchanges are less likely and have less incentive to disappear with your money.

The smaller mom and pop shop is more likely to care about it's customers, where as bigger corporation just see numbers and at a certain point all they care about it what is going to be a bigger number at thee end of the day, sometimes closing up shop and running is their biggest number after they've dehumanized their client base.

It seems like you're pretty new around here so I'll try to point you in the right direction as best I can; but I will say that you should be reading the stickies, guidelines and using the search function as much as possible at this point. If you want to learn all that you can about exchanges, bitcoin and anything related it's all at your fingertips, there are archives of every significant discussion ever had around here (well, for the most part)

Take a peak at these threads before you go around posting anymore, you'll be thankful you did. Normally it's bad etiquette to post twice in row, especially with such insubstantial information/conversation. I'm sure you'll agree that you could've made that a single post.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=20333.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1649348.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1652275.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3629.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133931.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137288.0

These helped me when I was first poking around and wanting to learn more about the forum. At the top of the forum There's a "Search" function, very helpful when attempting to see which information has been posted before, to save you and other members leg-work and repetitive posts.

So you would like complete control over another person's identity and paypal and then you would like to change the e-mail (and password) to assume exclusive control over this other person's paypal/identity? How is this person supposed to use their paypal in the mean time, or were you not planning on this person retaining control of their own account?

Just so anyone is aware, if you let someone change the E-mail associated with your account they will not release control of this account back to you, even if they do it is a safe bet they will attempt to recover it again at some point; they will have a much stronger probability seeing as their e-mail as verified on the account. You're basically throwing your paypal away to somebody who has no reason not to trash and abuse the account.


I wouldn't encourage this behavior, but instead of ruining someone's paypal, especially when they would be reaching out to you specially to help you out with your "situation", maybe you could just deal with another sketch ball as suggested.

That's either a little naive, or very disingenuous in my opinion. I already stated a lot of the problems that have ailed exchanges in the past and from where I'm standing it seems silly to downplay all of these past problems as "little problems." I can personally point to people I've witnessed or observed lose thousands of dollars of their own personal coin. I think we need to be honest about the risks that come with the "convenience" of exchanges and the services they offer. I use exchanges myself, don't get me wrong, but I'm very aware that any coin sitting on an exchange wallet has to be coin I am ready and willing to lose at any given moment.

When someone is asking about exchanges and which to use, it is very important that you mention any and all of them could dissipate into thin air, or simply refuse to handle your support request; you may lose everything gyou have on the exchange, if you think that is a little problem then fine, but I'm positive most would disagree and most don't even see that as a reality.

I can think of a few members that would wreak havoc and reign fire upon this thread. Exchanges, believe it or not are quite a touchy subject for certain people and with good reason; a lot of users have arrived too recently to remember the many, many, many exchanges that have fallen victim to hacks, seizures, shut-downs and outright exit scams. There has been millions of dollars stolen by, from and through exchanges over the years and so be careful when you're asking about the most trusted exchanges, because often the biggest exchanges are the ones which fall hardest.

I've heard it analogized many ways, but probably my favorite has got to be equating exchanges to "playing roulette with full cylinders"; there will be a problem, it's only a matter of when and how severe. I would suggest keeping little to no coins on an exchange and when they are on an exchange, if that is your only option for liquidation (which should be avoided, anyways) then cycle them through the exchange as quickly as you possibly can.

All this being said, I use Gemini whenever I have the need for a quick cash influx for whatever random reason my ape brain decides is a good use of my coin. (it almost never is) I've never waited more than 2-days for a withdrawal, bitcoin price is pretty low, fees are almost non-existent.

You've been warned, exchanges are scary and are just as likely to scam or fail as any random member around this forum; more money/volume/recognition just means more reason/incentive to disappear in a cloud of smoke. It can't be overstated that you cannot rely on the security of some 3rd party; it is best to take matters into your own hands and keep your coin where you know it's safe. Use randomly generated, long strings of varied characters (special characters, too) for passwords, always use 2-FA if possible and all the other good ole' security measures that mamma raised you on!

It's generally frowned upon to post the exact same thread, especially when you didn't address the concerns from the last thread; you just disappeared to re-create the thread and hope nobody asked the same questions or was similarly skeptical?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2664139.msg27309109#msg27309109

^ This is the link to his identical thread, hopefully reporting this thread will be enough to get it deleted, but just in case someone doesn't notice and may waste time dealing/discussing "terms".


Are you planning to explain why you need the full access of another person's identity/papal to do whatever you're doing? I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt until I noticed you're just going to ignore everyone's extremely reasonable and valid concerns and try to go for low-hanging fruit. The end goal here is pathetic, and I don't understand if you thought nobody would notice or if you're just that short-sighted that you haven't quite thought this plan through.

I don't understand how you can say this with such confidence, as if this statement is definitive. How can crypto not be enough to survive when the market cap of bitcoin alone is over $200 Billion. OP did not disclose his current holdings in bitcoin or other cryptos, so it seems a little foolhardy to assume that crypto would not be sufficient.

If OP had 50-bitcoins, wouldn't you agree he could easily pull this off without much second thought? I'd agree if OP has anything less than 5-10 bitcoins (and plans to keep any of it) then they should definitely look into all other options, because it just won't be enough and isn't reliable enough to plan your life around it.

In my experience and everyone I know has never had a problem liquidating their  bitcoin in the US for $. There is a constant supply, any big exchange can handle almost any amount you can throw at it pretty much instantly. Again, I'm not sure how the rules work for someone that moves there, is on a visa or other sorts of restrictions, but I know citizens and anyone with "residential" documents have no problem using almost any and all exchanges.

What organization are you with?

When you say you are "in charge" of these gamblers, what exactly does that mean? Are these people apart of some sort of cult you've formed from the ground up in a grassroots style movement, or are these people you currently have on a mailing list who may or may not be gamblers? I am having a tough time understanding what it means to be in charge of 2,000 gamblers; are these employed gamblers?

You also say that you will propose a business, but then request that people send you their conditions and so I'm wondering if you are looking for the lowest bidder to cooperate with your already formulated plan or are you looking for someone to formulate a business plan around the fact that "There is no coin depository in Asia"?

I google "Bitcoin depository Asia" and many results for many different Asian countries pop up, so I am confused what you even mean by "depository" at this point as well. Someone else mentioned that there may be a language barrier; that is almost certainly the case, because I'm having a hard time understanding anything except your Telegram address. Plus, you say to e-mail you, do not provide an e-mail within your post and have your e-mail hidden on your profile.

I'd love to be a part of a good business plan, but unless I'm mistaken you've contradicted yourself, were incorrect about no depositories in Asia, and do not even provide the means to contact you in the manner you requested. Nobody is going to be able to take your idea or partnership more seriously than you are, so I'd really suggest taking a second look at what you're bringing to the table before you expect to reap any rewards from this "plan". I'm going to suggest an overhaul of your OP, providing a better description of what you're searching for and what you already have to bring to the partnership, otherwise this is dead in the water in my opinion.

I have $20 extra I can spare, been doing some casual day-trading and I wouldn't mind seeing what all the hubbub is about. I breezed throughout the thread and it doesn't seem like you've run out yet; I hope I am not too late.

I can send BTC, I don't really deal with LTC at all. Don't mind paying the fees, it's always been a part of using coin, can't get mad at bitcoin because it's worth more


Any idea how long it might take for a USA customer to receive their box? Seems like it took CryptoHodler30 about a week to receive theirs, is that give or take regular pace?

You should probably attempt to cash out a hefty amount prior to moving wherever you do end up going, because sometimes exchanges have a tough time working with visitors/immigrants, there might be delays or difficulties, even grey areas that you may have to overcome. I lived off of my bitcoin stash when I went through a tough time in other areas of my life. I made 2-years, on about $25,000 while i was pursuing a degree, eating pretty well daily and enjoying some nights out at the bar.

It's almost impossible to tell you how much you will need, because everyone is accustomed to a different standard of living. $12,500 a year in a country like Germany, or America might sound crazy to you, be it too little or too much. This question is similar to "How much $ do I need to live 1-year?", it has a million different answers and none of them are wrong or necessarily right. You should create a budget for yourself, figure out how much your living situation will cost you, figure out if you're going to have a car, how much you're going to spend on food (don't estimate, look up recipes, ingredient prices and even local restaurants). Once your figure out fundamentally how you'll be living, and where it should bee pretty easy to throw together a budget and figure out almost down to the penny how much you will need to make it. I would bring 10% extra, whatever you decide is enough, bring a little more just to be safe; and while you're doing the budget you should figure out what it will take to cash-out your coin if you should need to in the future.

You cannot hit a target you are not aiming at, so make a plan, set a goal and make it happen!

We see threads like this pop up pretty regularly, and I would vigorously encourage you to use the "Search" function, because it'll open a lot of doors for you. Some questions have been asked before, sometimes these questions have answers and other-times they do not; this is one of those other-times.

I personally doubt it'll drop to $10,000 in 2018, but things happen unexpectedly all the time especially when it comes to bitcoin. If it does reach $10,000, I believe it'll only touch it momentarily and then spike back up, because too many people would be ready and willing to buy bitcoin at $10,000 or $50 less and it'll never have to drop any lower.

I think bitcoin will have a tough time dropping below $11,500 in 2018; I think, much like 2017, that January will be thee lowest bitcoin will be all year and it's only upwards from here. I have never heard so many regular people, news organizations and other town-criers suddenly discussing bitcoins and the prospect of investing. This tells me that 2018 is going to be possibly the craziest year for bitcoin to date.

I used to trade Forex and Binary options for years; I even made pretty good money for awhile when I did it. The trouble I ran into while trading Binary options is that almost no provider of Binary options is regulated in any significant way, you say "Provably fair', but can you please explain what that means in the context of your telegram group? I noticed regularly, especially with short-term positions such as 60-seconds (or your 30-second positions) is there was inconsistency with Strike/Current/End prices and it always biased the provider.

In short, Binary options have been renowned for their rigging and manipulation of positions and prices; What proof do you have that it is provably fair? For 30-second positions, within a telegram group, how quickly are the positions taken? Even 1-2 seconds later might be too late for an entry in many cases. I do not see 30-second positions over telegram as a feasible method for anyone involved.

This is your first post, what exchange are you using to enter these trades? Are these trades regulated? What are the limits on trading if you are anonymous? I don't understand how KYC, AML or other things aren't applicable or how anyone can trust that this is fair, or that you won't disappear with deposit money.

I do appreciate the honesty of placing this in the "Gambling" section, rather than "Services" or something. 

I made it 3-words into your post and I have to tell you to be careful with the path your brain is on. I can appreciate you trying to take notes from people that have made money in the past, especially when they seem relevant and informed. Tai Lopez, you have to take everything this man says with a grain of salt, especially when it involves him in any way.

Tai Lopez has made a lot of money, but a lot of his money has been made by convincing people that he can teach them how to make money. Do you see how this is quite circular? He's by no means altruistic, and that isn't a bad thing innately, but you have to realize that if he's going to be helping you in any capacity that it is helping him more than it is helping you. If you can come to terms with the fact that you're playing a pawn in his game, then feel free, but do not think that he is offering you a spot on equal footing or even offering an equally beneficial situation.

That being said, I have watched hours of Tai Lopez, because he does have good philosophies and ways of looking at things. You can learn a lot about how to look at things, what to look for, but I beg you to not treat this man as an exaggerated genius. Do not throw money at his classes or programs, you need to think for yourself when it comes to your money. Nobody can create a future for you, but many will say they will if only you throw them some money.

My strategy has remained the same, invest and hold bitcoin; if you see other investment opportunities that fund something which feels an actually need in the market, for security, convenience, safety, efficacy or anything else significant.

Nano, did you completely miss the point digaran was trying to make? I'm just trying to figure out if it went completely over your head, or if you're simply not going to address the biggest concern about something like this. You're going to attract someone desperate for money, probably ruin their papal before 1-month is up, never send them any payment and then have collections agencies contacting them on behalf of Paypal until they lose thousands of dollars, ruin their credit or both.

If I can give any of you advice out there, avoid doing something like this; it always ends badly, and you will end up with less money and more headaches than you started with. I had a friend that used to do something very similar to this for multiple people, from multiple countries on multiple PayPals accounts; invariably, the PayPals end up with negative balance and the scammer has a good day.

Please make more of an effort towards an honest buck, and if by some miracle this is just a misunderstanding, just use a different payment method if Paypal is not an option. You do not need to assume another person's identity to move funds around. I honestly shouldn't have to even say that.

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