I'm not trying to say that you can control the bust, and you're probably right that this method will yield no profit long-term. I am saying, that you can plan for the bust. As long as there is no misconception that you will bust all of your money in your account when an unlucky string of losses comes around that is mathematically guaranteed at some point.


I'll do some more reading up on that 49.652%, but that sounds more arbitrary than conclusively subjective (without doing the reading to formulate an informed opinion).


Went back to OP to double check the wording used, and I agree that it is misleading. They do say "guaranteed" multiple times in their OP "Guaranteed High Profits", "Guaranteed profit within an hour". Doing the method as explained, exactly as it is written only earned me 3,000 Satoshi within an hour of allowing it to operate. I just as easily could have lost the $50 they initially suggest to deposit, though. So the risk-reward ratio in the beginning is not impressive, to say the least.


Being +EV and being down 2BTC should allow you to see that it could just as easily end up the other way. The bot could do -EV and be up 2BTC just as easily as the first bot playing on +EV was down 2BTC. It is simply a flimsy representation of the expected outcome over an endless amount of games/bets/rolls. Not something worth staking your life on.

A lot of what I have learned about Crypto trading mostly makes me believe that it is primarily a gamble, even if you are doing well in this instance. Even if you are good at calling the markets, all it takes is a few bad trades at the wrong time and your capital/coin is severely diminished. I've had highs and I've had lows attempting to trade coin for a profit, catch the reversals, ride the trends and even follow tipsters that were "reputable". All I've come to realize is that it seems like simple HODLing yields tremendous results if you are simple looking for an increase of value. These highs and lows may not play into your favor, but HODLing for a couple of years always has. My suggestion, if you are planning to start trading crypto for a profit is to do some research and practice on dummy accounts or with fake money. There is nobody that knows enough to know what is going to happen next definitively.

There are dozens of threads that are replicas of exactly what you are trying to convey here. You are not providing anything new or unique to the discussion. All you are doing is encouraging people to continue to hang out in a community for the wrong reasons while actively making it a worse place for everyone else.

Nobody needs your guide on how to make bounty spamcash, and quite frankly if you are only here for the bounties then you are not a welcome member of this community.

You also are encouraging people to abuse these campaigns by signing up dozens of accounts, boosting them to member status and then milking each for as much cash as you possibly can by posting every 10-minutes for no reason other than making cash. This is an extremely shameful and pathetic post that is encouraging users to abuse campaigns by enrolling alts and spamming their way around the forums without putting effort or thought into their posts.

You are here for an easy buck, and encouraging others to spam maliciously. I wish a DT member would tag you, simply for that.

As I said earlier though, the method directly addresses the fact that you will bust eventually. That's why I'm trying my luck and seeing if the strategy is enough, in my case, for me to profit and hold me over for awhile. Of course there is a factor of luck and the mathematics are against you, but if that "short-term" is long enough for you to do what this guide suggests to minimize the damage of a bust, control the bust, etc. then you may be okay.

It's just a cheap little $15 method, and it's honest about what it is offering. There's a script involved, but everything seems to be legitimate from a TOS and legal point of view. I don't see anything wrong with giving it a try, and seeing if their method for handling a bust is feasible.

That certainly isn't the case. I am not trying to come across as if I do not trust your words. I just think there is some miscommunication going on, due to the fact that we are limited by the medium we are communicating through. I do trust your words, and you certainly know more about gambling than I do. I just wanted to give it a try for myself without any pre-judgement. I understand that mathematics are against this method in an EV sense, but even that comes down to luck to an extent.

I understand where you guys are coming from, and my vouch certainly won't include phrases like "this will work for everyone" or "guaranteed profit". I'm going to be realistic, but I'm interested to see how feasible this is for someone like me that doesn't have experience doing this sort of thing.


I'm very pressed for time recently, but if you would be willing to PM me some more information on your techniques, strategies and who you follow that would be very helpful. I'm interested in what you're talking about, because it sounds like you've got a mathematical advantage. Tipsters though, can change their EV rather quickly, can't they?

I see a lot of newbies struggling to accomplish what they would like to with their posts. They are unable to present their ideas in a way that is palatable to other users. They are regularly ignorant of the rules, guidelines, expectations and have no semblance of what is appropriate for each board. My goal with this thread is to combat these issues on an individual-basis.

This is how we're going to do this -

Submit up to 3 of your posts that you believe to be the greatest representation(s) of your contribution(s) around the forum. I'm searching for posts that are well-thought out, creative, nuanced, insightful, helpful, informative, unique, interesting and overall make the community a bit shinier. I believe there are too many members that are too arrogant or too afraid to honestly self-analyze their posting behavior around the forum. I will give my feedback on each of your posts, and if I find your thread/post to have the aforementioned qualities then I will join the discussion, watch the thread and use your submission as a reference for future questions about post-quality and anything relevant to the original intent of the post/thread.

In addition to reviewing the posts you have submitted, I will also take a peek at your 20-40 most recent posts and give my feedback regarding those as well. The purpose of this thread is to give the feedback necessary to allow users to make positive adjustments to the way they conduct themselves around the forum. Also, I have a hard time finding interesting discussions, so maybe this will work as a proxy for that as well.

You can write a comment, a request or whatever else, but leave the links plain, one per line, without any numbers, bullets or tags in front of them or behind them. If a link is on that line, nothing else should be.

Do not post useless comments or unproductive posts here; they will be deleted and go unanswered.

Local-Rule : Do not format your links with tags, hyperlinks, lists or line-breaks. I will delete/reject your submissions instantly.
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Then I suppose my job here is to find out how short that term is. Testing my luck, since it is a gambling method after all. I've got it set up and running, and after looking into everything it does appear that the mathematics are working against this method. That being said, if you're looking for a bit of a "gamble" with the term that it will last you for, then it'll probably have a fun run.


I certainly have not finished my tests. There are a bunch of red-flags within this method, and the only thing I am hoping for is that my luck is better than everyone is suggesting it will be. Even if I am able to profit, I am not sure how glowing the review will be.

Yes you can. You are wrong.


Nobody has "vouched" for the method. Joe gave a review, and all I've said so far is that I plan to do a review. I understand the concept of EV perfectly well, but even if I didn't I would still have the capability of knowing whether or not this method has personally made me any profit. Literally nothing that I have said has been misleading. You seem especially worked up for no particular reason, maybe you've done some bad martingales in the past.


I guess we'll see, won't we? I've known plenty of martingale traders within Forex and other markets that have been trading successfully for years. Raising a family on the money they're able to bring in, exclusively from martingale trading. There is correct ways to do it.


I disagree. If you're not against it, then what is your point? They're selling a method that goes beyond simply martingale betting, and they directly address the fact that you will bust eventually. If you believe that you be a scam, then so be it. I'm going to give it a fair shake, see how it goes and let my own experience speak for itself.

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You're right about one thing though, and that's the fact that I am not a gambler. I know the terms, my family was in the business at one point in time and I've invested in some projects. I think the fact that I am not a gambler will probably make it easier for me to approach the method with a fresh pair of eyes. It's not the most unique or innovative strategy, but again, there is no reason to judge it prior to trying it.

It certainly is about how much time the bot will last. You are looking at the situation from a strictly black and white perspective, as if the only way to ever profit through gambling games is with a positive EV. There are other alternatives, because martingale doesn't work long-term if you allow it to bust your entire balance. If you put down an initial investment of $25 and the system profits $35 before "busting" your initial $25, then you've profited $10 and still have your profit. This is just a simple example, but there are ways to mitigate the risks being posed through a martingale system. Allow the system to run it's course, we'll share our subjective experiences as time passes and we will let the system speak for itself.

That's probably a very safe assumption to make. I was just wondering if anybody else was able to recreate what I am experiencing. Plus, if a staff had any kind of input, as in if this were purposefully implemented, then that would also be nice to hear. I might just end up locking this topic, since it doesn't seem like something that is a bother to anybody else. I guess I'll just accept this is a pet peeve that nobody else cares much about. It's not like it obstructs any functionality, as I've said earlier, so I probably should assume that this will not get "fixed". Especially considering they are working on new forum software and probably not worried too much about this software any longer (outside of security).

There are twitter re-audit services for free being hosted around the forum daily. There are dozens of these services, where they do not charge you a thing and run your twitter through the audit program. You'll be able to get an audit without a credit card, just go ask a few of those that are not too busy to process your order.

It's not something that is functionally upsetting. Not like it actually stops me from doing anything important. I'm just slightly peeved by the fact that the Message, alerting me of the new replies disappears after I re-click "preview", so it must have acknowledged in some way that I've seen the post.


I just like to test out different things. See what's new, maybe there will be more for me to add into my post, something like that.


That warning message could be linked to the watchlist, so that once that message is satisfied then it will also satisfy the watchlist "read/unread" status.

Real quick, when you are bumping your thread it is common courtesy to delete your old "Bump" posts. This way your thread doesn't get all cluttered and obnoxious to sort through. Do everyone a favor and delete the old bump posts, you don't need more than one. I'm pretty sure this is against the rules, but even if it is not it is extremely frowned upon and makes less people interested in your thread.

In your OP you mention that you are selling "Huly", and I'm wondering if you meant "Hulu"?


You first week is critical, probably because you are accessing an account that you are unauthorized to do so. This would mean that your first few days of accessing the account are the most likely to get you caught on the hacked/cracked account. What you are selling here is not allowed, and you should stop before action is taken against you.

You claim that they have given permission to share their account, so then why is the "first week critical"? This wouldn't be the case if they were legitimately shared.

jackg sums up most of what is wrong with this suggestion pretty nicely. It definitely will discourage people from Bitcoin and this forum if they are unable to receive any kind of support, assistance or guidance when they are first getting started. I know that without this forum I would have found it extremely difficult for me to get involved and knowledgeable about Bitcoin to any significant capacity. I wouldn't have gotten involved or invested, at all. This forum has made me a better person, literally. I more inquisitive, more critical thinking and I have a technical understanding that would be impossible without the passionate interest that drives me towards Bitcoin.

Outside of that, the people who are truly malicious and are out for blood would simply make multiple accounts. So, it would hurt those genuinely just getting started and serve as no obstacle to those that are maliciously spamming around as you suggest.

The market is just operating as it is supposed to. There are price increases and price drops. We are in the early stages of adoption, so it would be foolish to assume there will be any integrity attached to the price/value of Bitcoin until supply and demand has leveled out to some degree. There will be sudden price drops and sudden price increases, especially when the traditional "heads of finance" have had so much negativity to spread about cryptocurrency and Bitcoin recently. People see $10,000 within reach and they believe this is a good place to call it quits when it comes to the rollercoaster ride. Not enough of those recently adopting cryptocurrency usage are interested in long-term usage of the technology. Most are simply attracted to the idea of getting rich off a small investment, very quickly. This drives the price wild, as these people enter and leave the market by the millions.

I would be really interested in reading that research myself, because that sounds quite difficult to understand for me. Only 50% of the people in the world even have access to the internet. This would prove to be quite the obstacle when trying to spread the good word about cryptocurrency, at least in my estimations. I know that it is possible to use paper wallets outside of the internet, but I can't practically understand how these people would have knowledge of cryptocurrency without access to internet. Do you remember where you read that?

We're going to need more information in order to help you. What kind of PSU are you using to power this set up? Do you have any chance to test the final card that isn't being recognized in another machine or attempt to use it in another one of the slots of the motherboard?

I'll keep my response brief, since I could go on for pages.

Economic freedom, Economic security, Economic Integrity, True Free Market an extreme shift in the political landscape and so many other things. You ask about the possibilities, but it is almost as if we have started a new concept that will change the way trade is conducted. Decentralization gives the possibility of universal acceptance.

Nobody feels like we should be trusting the government with our money, yet we continue to allow them to dictate and control the currency we use. We allow them to take their cut to control how and what we earn.

I have received my review copy and have given it a quick glance through. I just read Joe's review, and so I will attempt to touch base on anything that they have not. I've got to give the method and honest chance, because normally I roll my eyes and do not bother with these kind of things, but I said I would give it a fair review and that's what I plan to do.

I will not be violating any terms on any websites, so if it is unable to be converted into an acceptable format then that is where my journey will end. I'm sure I will be able to make it work, as Joe has played with the settings somewhat themselves. I will probably make the $50 investment as suggested and allow it to run it's course.

It sounds like you are playing with chance, but without risk there is no reward. There is a method for securing the profits that may be the saving grace for this strategy. It is extremely simple, but it is something that most people overlook and it costs them dearly.

A lot of people have a lot to say, about EV+, about these scripts, about busting eventually. All of these things can be controlled for and overcome. Busting eventually isn't a problem if you aren't busting beyond your profit. Control yourself, your betting and follow some simple rules and you can profit. EV+ makes things basically guaranteed, and is pretty rare to find..

Thanks for the Virus scan Joe, that kind of stuff always freaks me out before I click and sometimes I don't have the resources on me to run a good scan.

This is not an auction. Please delete, lock or report this thread to get it removed. If you are interested in strictly selling a few twitter accounts then you should make a thread in the Digital Goods section, found here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=93.0

If you are genuinely making an attempt at creating a credible auction, then you need to read the auction guidelines found here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=287020.0 . You've not followed the rules of this section, so I wouldn't expect much, if any, response to your post (besides mine explaining what is wrong).

Just because a twitter audit claims the followers are 90% real, that doesn't really mean very much. Most companies that sell fake followers will continue to replace your followers until you receive a good twitter audit score. So, in reality almost all of the followers are most likely fake followers, regardless of what twitter audit claims. Your twitter audit score can change rather quickly, too, so this is something that will need to be considered.

You mention a low-price, but then don't even provide an estimate. $2? $5? $50? You've got to clue us in if you plan on anyone placing a bid on your auction.

Seems to me like you probably just generate a bunch of accounts and then attempt to build them to about 25k followers, fix the twitter audit score and then attempt to sell for a wild profit. All while knowing these accounts are garbage.