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November 09, 2013, 08:06:26 PM
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blockchain.info will refund to the sender after 36-48 hours or so if no miner is kind enough to include it in a block.

Troll much, or are you just misinformed?
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It will get picked up eventually.  No worries.
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ok, just changed my saturn order for a jupiter.....ughhhh. I'm gonna puke.
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November 09, 2013, 08:14:55 PM
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ok, just changed my saturn order for a jupiter.....ughhhh. I'm gonna puke.
I feel ya...
I'm tryin' to get this last Jupiter paid for, and having troubles, lol...
ulcer time....


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November 09, 2013, 08:16:15 PM
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blockchain.info will refund to the sender after 36-48 hours or so if no miner is kind enough to include it in a block.

Troll much, or are you just misinformed?
You have a different answer?
Please utter it.
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The easiest option is to continue to wait.  No, an "automatic refund" will never happen.

The only other option, which requires a good bit of technical skill, is for the sender to manually create a new transaction that spends the same inputs, but also includes a tx fee, and hope a miner picks that one up instead (which will then invalidate the original transaction).

Technically you could say the funds are still in the sender's wallet, but since the transaction has been broadcast, a miner could pick it up at any time and move the funds out to their intended destination address.

"All safe deposit boxes in banks or financial institutions have been sealed... and may only be opened in the presence of an agent of the I.R.S." - President F.D. Roosevelt, 1933
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November 09, 2013, 08:21:10 PM
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ok, just changed my saturn order for a jupiter.....ughhhh. I'm gonna puke.

How does it feel? mine to be rich or undermine to a bubble  Grin

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November 09, 2013, 08:25:07 PM
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blockchain.info will refund to the sender after 36-48 hours or so if no miner is kind enough to include it in a block.

Troll much, or are you just misinformed?
You have a different answer?
Please utter it.
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...without ANY explanation....
**** Thanks guys...
I really feel informed now...

The easiest option is to continue to wait.  No, an "automatic refund" will never happen.

The only other option, which requires a good bit of technical skill, is for the sender to manually create a new transaction that spends the same inputs, but also includes a tx fee, and hope a miner picks that one up instead (which will then invalidate the original transaction).

I have a payout from Bitminter that is still unconfirmed after 17 hours.
And I have no explanation why my previous 4 payouts (1 per day) have confirmed in less than an hour, but this one is being treated different.
What changed?

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November 09, 2013, 08:29:16 PM
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blockchain.info will refund to the sender after 36-48 hours or so if no miner is kind enough to include it in a block.

Troll much, or are you just misinformed?
You have a different answer?
Please utter it.
2 bashes now on Paladin69, (who was nice enough to answer)
...without ANY explanation....
**** Thanks guys...
I really feel informed now...

The easiest option is to continue to wait.  No, an "automatic refund" will never happen.

The only other option, which requires a good bit of technical skill, is for the sender to manually create a new transaction that spends the same inputs, but also includes a tx fee, and hope a miner picks that one up instead (which will then invalidate the original transaction).

Technically you could say the funds are still in the sender's wallet, but since the transaction has been broadcast, a miner could pick it up at any time and move the funds out to their intended destination address.
That makes sense...
Wish I could add that doggone fee...

Thank you for responding...



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November 09, 2013, 08:33:45 PM
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I have a payout from Bitminter that is still unconfirmed after 17 hours.
And I have no explanation why my previous 4 payouts (1 per day) have confirmed in less than an hour, but this one is being treated different.
What changed?

The maximum size of each bitcoin block is limited to 1 megabyte.  This is enforced by the client.

It's up to each miner (which means a pool operator or solo miner) to set their policy for what transactions get included in their blocks.  They can even choose not to include any.

It could be that there are a lot of competing transactions that keep yours from getting picked up, or a lot of blocks are being mined by miners with more selfish policies that don't choose to include [m]any transactions.

Also the network hashrate seems to have stabilized now, so the network is about back to the intended 1 block per 10 minutes, rather than 1 per 7 minutes or so that we saw as the hashrate was climbing.

(This issue would be a lot less severe if we could somehow get rid of SatoshiDice, which spams the blockchain with tons of useless transactions.)

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November 09, 2013, 08:34:47 PM
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How do this miners work?
We have to connect them via ethernet directly to the router and configure via ip or usb?

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November 09, 2013, 08:37:13 PM
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How do this miners work?
We have to connect them via ethernet directly to the router and configure via ip or usb?
no usb, ethernet to network...
sniff out the ip
logon the gui.






Hmmm, found this on Blockchain.info/faq:


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November 09, 2013, 08:44:35 PM
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How do this miners work?
We have to connect them via ethernet directly to the router and configure via ip or usb?
no usb, ethernet to network...
sniff out the ip
logon the gui.






Hmmm, found this on Blockchain.info/faq:


So, if i purchase a saturn. I plug my power supply and connect it via RJ45 to my internet switch and manage the settings (pool,etc) on the ip?

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Hmmm, found this on Blockchain.info/faq:


Such a reversal would involve creating a new transaction that spends the same inputs, like I mentioned above.

Anyhoo, this discussion isn't really on-topic for this thread...

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November 09, 2013, 08:46:29 PM
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How do this miners work?
We have to connect them via ethernet directly to the router and configure via ip or usb?
no usb, ethernet to network...
sniff out the ip
logon the gui.






Hmmm, found this on Blockchain.info/faq:


So, if i purchase a saturn. I plug my power supply and connect it via RJ45 to my internet switch and manage the settings (pool,etc) on the ip?

Exactly. I have mine connected to a cheap TP-Link switch, that is connected to my ISP router Smiley
I even opened ports and setup dyndns inside the router, so I can access them from anywhere via web gui and SSH using a hostname Wink

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Hmmm, found this on Blockchain.info/faq:


Such a reversal would involve creating a new transaction that spends the same inputs, like I mentioned above.
That would be done by the sender....correct?


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November 09, 2013, 08:49:58 PM
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How do this miners work?
We have to connect them via ethernet directly to the router and configure via ip or usb?
no usb, ethernet to network...
sniff out the ip
logon the gui.






Hmmm, found this on Blockchain.info/faq:


So, if i purchase a saturn. I plug my power supply and connect it via RJ45 to my internet switch and manage the settings (pool,etc) on the ip?

Exactly. I have mine connected to a cheap TP-Link switch, that is connected to my ISP router Smiley
I even opened ports and setup dyndns inside the router, so I can access them from anywhere via web gui and SSH using a hostname Wink

Thanks. One more thing. Its complicated to plug the power supply to the knc saturn? (Since im a complete newbie in asics)
Also, what is the recommended/cheapest power supply to this device?

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November 09, 2013, 08:50:35 PM
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But it was a custom car! Cars are hardware! Tongue

Oops, not mining hardware though.

So what the heck lets outright ask...

Biomech, are you long bitcoin?

Or did you mean if you had bitcoins you'd blow them on mining gear but don't even have as many bitcoin as a rig cost then or even as it would cost now?

-MarkM-

LOL. Cars are indeed hardware... and computers, etcetera. I like gadgets.

The long form would probably bore the hell out of you. The short form is I went through a series of personal disasters over a few years when I found out about bitcoin, then didn't get in on the beginning due to frankly being overworked and overstressed. I'm slowly digging out of a financial mess, I have a young son and a daughter on the way, and very little resources.

But I want in. Avenger is right for once, I have a boner for something I can't afford. But I can and am learning, and I will get the hardware in time. I tend to think in long term strategy. In my younger days I took outrageous risks, sometimes won big and sometimes lost everything. I regret none of it. I regret the risks I didn't take, which is why I get irritated when people get into something as highly speculative as this and freak when it doesn't get them rich over night. It could, but it was never likely.

As to being "long on bitcoin", I think the experiment will succeed. I think that it is the coolest thing to happen to money since gold, and I want to see it through. I suspect that in a few years, it will be one of the go-to options for preserving your wealth, as fiat currencies are subject to constant inflation (as in the expansion of the money supply, not the political horseshit that surrounds it) and failure, whereas bitcoin has a known limit to it's expansion, and can only become more valuable as both saving and exchange if it succeeds.

A positive ROI in less than a year on something this speculative would be considered fantastic in just about any other venture, and there are many options that will overcome the electric cost if the machines are good. Any good business model accounts for expansion and changes in technology. One thing I never see discussed in custom hardware, or really much at all on the forum, is generating your own power. For the price that you paid for a jupiter, you could put together a solar/wind/battery off grid system that would power it for years, and then the miniscule returns would STILL be worth it. Plus, the cost of electricity is a barrier that's quite a bit further out than a year, most likely. If I did have the money, which I will at some point, that is what I would do. Use the initial returns to buy power generation equipment, then invest in faster or more powerful machines as the money allowed. I would also be working very hard on the transactional end of things.

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November 09, 2013, 09:00:20 PM
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Thanks. One more thing. Its complicated to plug the power supply to the knc saturn? (Since im a complete newbie in asics)
Also, what is the recommended/cheapest power supply to this device?

Not really.
On one end you have the power lead that goes into the socket
On the other end you have 1 molex connector that goes into the Beaglebone card and 4 PCI-E connectors that go into each asic module/card.

Don't get the cheapest. Quality PSU don't depreciate much so you can later sell it for a good price + it has better efficiency than the cheap ones + better reliability + quieter.
Look for Gold or Platinum rated Cooler Master, Corsair, Seasonic.
Check here: http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page1530.htm

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November 09, 2013, 09:03:58 PM
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Hmmm, found this on Blockchain.info/faq:


Such a reversal would involve creating a new transaction that spends the same inputs, like I mentioned above.
That would be done by the sender....correct?

Yes.

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November 09, 2013, 09:05:02 PM
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So why has the difficulty/hash rate leveled off?  is KnCMiner done with their orders, or have they halted delivery until the next batch, or something?
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November 09, 2013, 09:05:55 PM
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Thanks. One more thing. Its complicated to plug the power supply to the knc saturn? (Since im a complete newbie in asics)
Also, what is the recommended/cheapest power supply to this device?

Not really.
On one end you have the power lead that goes into the socket
On the other end you have 1 molex connector that goes into the Beaglebone card and 4 PCI-E connectors that go into each asic module/card.

Don't get the cheapest. Quality PSU don't depreciate much so you can later sell it for a good price + it has better efficiency than the cheap ones + better reliability + quieter.
Look for Gold or Platinum rated Cooler Master, Corsair, Seasonic.
Check here: http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page1530.htm

Would this one do the work?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139015

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