Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[AMAZONBTC]

How do this miners work?
We have to connect them via ethernet directly to the router and configure via ip or usb?

no usb, ethernet to network...
sniff out the ip
logon the gui.






Hmmm, found this on Blockchain.info/faq:

So, if i purchase a saturn. I plug my power supply and connect it via RJ45 to my internet switch and manage the settings (pool,etc) on the ip?

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[Bogart]

Hmmm, found this on Blockchain.info/faq:

Such a reversal would involve creating a new transaction that spends the same inputs, like I mentioned above.

Anyhoo, this discussion isn't really on-topic for this thread...

[CYPER]

How do this miners work?
We have to connect them via ethernet directly to the router and configure via ip or usb?

no usb, ethernet to network...
sniff out the ip
logon the gui.






Hmmm, found this on Blockchain.info/faq:

So, if i purchase a saturn. I plug my power supply and connect it via RJ45 to my internet switch and manage the settings (pool,etc) on the ip?

Exactly. I have mine connected to a cheap TP-Link switch, that is connected to my ISP router
I even opened ports and setup dyndns inside the router, so I can access them from anywhere via web gui and SSH using a hostname

[Phoenix1969]

Hmmm, found this on Blockchain.info/faq:

Such a reversal would involve creating a new transaction that spends the same inputs, like I mentioned above.

That would be done by the sender....correct?

[AMAZONBTC]

How do this miners work?
We have to connect them via ethernet directly to the router and configure via ip or usb?

no usb, ethernet to network...
sniff out the ip
logon the gui.






Hmmm, found this on Blockchain.info/faq:

So, if i purchase a saturn. I plug my power supply and connect it via RJ45 to my internet switch and manage the settings (pool,etc) on the ip?

Exactly. I have mine connected to a cheap TP-Link switch, that is connected to my ISP router
I even opened ports and setup dyndns inside the router, so I can access them from anywhere via web gui and SSH using a hostname

Thanks. One more thing. Its complicated to plug the power supply to the knc saturn? (Since im a complete newbie in asics)
Also, what is the recommended/cheapest power supply to this device?

[Biomech]

But it was a custom car! Cars are hardware!

Oops, not mining hardware though.

So what the heck lets outright ask...

Biomech, are you long bitcoin?

Or did you mean if you had bitcoins you'd blow them on mining gear but don't even have as many bitcoin as a rig cost then or even as it would cost now?

-MarkM-

LOL. Cars are indeed hardware... and computers, etcetera. I like gadgets.

The long form would probably bore the hell out of you. The short form is I went through a series of personal disasters over a few years when I found out about bitcoin, then didn't get in on the beginning due to frankly being overworked and overstressed. I'm slowly digging out of a financial mess, I have a young son and a daughter on the way, and very little resources.

But I want in. Avenger is right for once, I have a boner for something I can't afford. But I can and am learning, and I will get the hardware in time. I tend to think in long term strategy. In my younger days I took outrageous risks, sometimes won big and sometimes lost everything. I regret none of it. I regret the risks I didn't take, which is why I get irritated when people get into something as highly speculative as this and freak when it doesn't get them rich over night. It could, but it was never likely.

As to being "long on bitcoin", I think the experiment will succeed. I think that it is the coolest thing to happen to money since gold, and I want to see it through. I suspect that in a few years, it will be one of the go-to options for preserving your wealth, as fiat currencies are subject to constant inflation (as in the expansion of the money supply, not the political horseshit that surrounds it) and failure, whereas bitcoin has a known limit to it's expansion, and can only become more valuable as both saving and exchange if it succeeds.

A positive ROI in less than a year on something this speculative would be considered fantastic in just about any other venture, and there are many options that will overcome the electric cost if the machines are good. Any good business model accounts for expansion and changes in technology. One thing I never see discussed in custom hardware, or really much at all on the forum, is generating your own power. For the price that you paid for a jupiter, you could put together a solar/wind/battery off grid system that would power it for years, and then the miniscule returns would STILL be worth it. Plus, the cost of electricity is a barrier that's quite a bit further out than a year, most likely. If I did have the money, which I will at some point, that is what I would do. Use the initial returns to buy power generation equipment, then invest in faster or more powerful machines as the money allowed. I would also be working very hard on the transactional end of things.

[CYPER]

Thanks. One more thing. Its complicated to plug the power supply to the knc saturn? (Since im a complete newbie in asics)
Also, what is the recommended/cheapest power supply to this device?

Not really.
On one end you have the power lead that goes into the socket
On the other end you have 1 molex connector that goes into the Beaglebone card and 4 PCI-E connectors that go into each asic module/card.

Don't get the cheapest. Quality PSU don't depreciate much so you can later sell it for a good price + it has better efficiency than the cheap ones + better reliability + quieter.
Look for Gold or Platinum rated Cooler Master, Corsair, Seasonic.
Check here: http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page1530.htm

[Bogart]

Hmmm, found this on Blockchain.info/faq:

Such a reversal would involve creating a new transaction that spends the same inputs, like I mentioned above.

That would be done by the sender....correct?

Yes.

[ecliptic]

So why has the difficulty/hash rate leveled off?  is KnCMiner done with their orders, or have they halted delivery until the next batch, or something?

[AMAZONBTC]

Thanks. One more thing. Its complicated to plug the power supply to the knc saturn? (Since im a complete newbie in asics)
Also, what is the recommended/cheapest power supply to this device?

Not really.
On one end you have the power lead that goes into the socket
On the other end you have 1 molex connector that goes into the Beaglebone card and 4 PCI-E connectors that go into each asic module/card.

Don't get the cheapest. Quality PSU don't depreciate much so you can later sell it for a good price + it has better efficiency than the cheap ones + better reliability + quieter.
Look for Gold or Platinum rated Cooler Master, Corsair, Seasonic.
Check here: http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page1530.htm

Would this one do the work?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139015

[Bogart]

So why has the difficulty/hash rate leveled off?  is KnCMiner done with their orders, or have they halted delivery until the next batch, or something?

November shipments don't begin until Nov 15th.  Assuming all October-delivery orders have been shipped, yes, they have halted shipping until then.

[RHA]

Do you all remember the heat here before the end of September?

I see the thread is becoming a troll festival. While a delay or even a fail is still possible, it is quite possible KnC want to make us a great, nice surprise. No one spoils the surprise by announcing it earlier.

By the way, adding new pages to this thread won't make Jupiters get more GH/s (contrary to some belief).
Also, it won't be a new forum record. Far from it. The LABCOIN thread is now the fastest growing. It has grown about 500 pages (sic!) during last two weeks. It means the 450 TH/s from Labcoin probably won't show this year.

I was right with the nice surprise from KnCMiner side - they showed the working miner to us the next day and then started shipping.
And the trolls have gone...

I was wrong telling the number of pages won't be longer than the Labcoin thread which has now 920 pages only, while KnCMiner thread has 1033...


By the way, don't count Puppet as one who has troubles with KnC devices. He openly announced he ordered no ASIC devices (from any manufacturer): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=267552.msg3506604#msg3506604

[CYPER]

Would this one do the work?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139015

Yes, that is a very good PSU with high efficiency.
Btw KNC warned not to use HX850 as it supplies too much current and it can kill your miner, but I think AX850 is a safe choice.
Do you have it or you plan on buying it?

If I were you I will get the recommended by KNC: Coolermaster V850. I got 2 and they are good.

[AMAZONBTC]

Would this one do the work?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139015

Yes, that is a very good PSU with high efficiency.
Btw KNC warned not to use HX850 as it supplies too much current and it can kill your miner, but I think AX850 is a safe choice.
Do you have it or you plan on buying it?

If I were you I will get the recommended by KNC: Coolermaster V850. I got 2 and they are good.

I plane to buy.
What do you recommend for the saturn?
Thanks for your help

[ASIC-K]

Would this one do the work?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139015

Yes, that is a very good PSU with high efficiency.
Btw KNC warned not to use HX850 as it supplies too much current and it can kill your miner, but I think AX850 is a safe choice.
Do you have it or you plan on buying it?

If I were you I will get the recommended by KNC: Coolermaster V850. I got 2 and they are good.

I plane to buy.
What do you recommend for the saturn?
Thanks for your help

just a heads up, saturn is out of stock

[CYPER]

Would this one do the work?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139015

Yes, that is a very good PSU with high efficiency.
Btw KNC warned not to use HX850 as it supplies too much current and it can kill your miner, but I think AX850 is a safe choice.
Do you have it or you plan on buying it?

If I were you I will get the recommended by KNC: Coolermaster V850. I got 2 and they are good.

I plane to buy.
What do you recommend for the saturn?
Thanks for your help

Just 1?

[AMAZONBTC]

Would this one do the work?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139015

Yes, that is a very good PSU with high efficiency.
Btw KNC warned not to use HX850 as it supplies too much current and it can kill your miner, but I think AX850 is a safe choice.
Do you have it or you plan on buying it?

If I were you I will get the recommended by KNC: Coolermaster V850. I got 2 and they are good.

I plane to buy.
What do you recommend for the saturn?
Thanks for your help

Just 1?

Sorry, i wanted to say *Jupiter
Yea, it seems that i will jump in Jupiter, maybe order 3 or 4 of them.
For the Jupiter, would this be enough: http://www.corsair.com/pt/professional-series-gold-ax1200-80-plus-gold-certified-fully-modular-power-supply.html/ ?

[CYPER]

Would this one do the work?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139015

Yes, that is a very good PSU with high efficiency.
Btw KNC warned not to use HX850 as it supplies too much current and it can kill your miner, but I think AX850 is a safe choice.
Do you have it or you plan on buying it?

If I were you I will get the recommended by KNC: Coolermaster V850. I got 2 and they are good.

I plane to buy.
What do you recommend for the saturn?
Thanks for your help

Just 1?

Sorry, i wanted to say *Jupiter
Yea, it seems that i will jump in Jupiter, maybe order 3 or 4 of them.
For the Jupiter, would this be enough: http://www.corsair.com/pt/professional-series-gold-ax1200-80-plus-gold-certified-fully-modular-power-supply.html/ ?

Even half of that will probably work, not that I recommend to run the PSU at max.

Get a 800/850W to save some money or if you want get the 1200W.

[AMAZONBTC]

Would this one do the work?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139015

Yes, that is a very good PSU with high efficiency.
Btw KNC warned not to use HX850 as it supplies too much current and it can kill your miner, but I think AX850 is a safe choice.
Do you have it or you plan on buying it?

If I were you I will get the recommended by KNC: Coolermaster V850. I got 2 and they are good.

I plane to buy.
What do you recommend for the saturn?
Thanks for your help

Just 1?

Sorry, i wanted to say *Jupiter
Yea, it seems that i will jump in Jupiter, maybe order 3 or 4 of them.
For the Jupiter, would this be enough: http://www.corsair.com/pt/professional-series-gold-ax1200-80-plus-gold-certified-fully-modular-power-supply.html/ ?

Even half of that will probably work, not that I recommend to run the PSU at max.

Get a 800/850W to save some money or if you want get the 1200W.

Ok thanks.

[drico]

Drico, it's great.
Yet the log going down is a bit unusual.
If you can mimic all (or most) of what cgminer displays, do it - people will have full cgminer view at browser window without the necessity of ssh.

I will measure that but as long as it's started at boot time, it should be really lightweight
I'll provide feedback soon