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August 22, 2014, 01:40:21 AM
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Fiat is better comparison because when ordered in June btc was around $100 in Nov when it came out btc was about $500.

Lets say it cost 50 ($4999/ $100) btc to order in June, it comes in Nov.  So if you had mined more than 50 btc minus electricity it is compared to the original btc and the value of that today.

In other words if you kept that 50 btc from last June it is 50 x $523 = $26,150 with no other cost now.  

I was so bored I calculated the difficulty and every day mining: from mid Nov 2013 to Aug 8 2014 a Nov Jupiter at 660GH and 800 watts @.16 electricity net about 35.5 btc.  

$18,566 with btc @$523 today if you didnt sell any along the way.

Do you have these calcs in a spreadsheet perchance?

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August 22, 2014, 02:33:20 AM
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Fiat is better comparison because when ordered in June btc was around $100 in Nov when it came out btc was about $500.

Lets say it cost 50 ($4999/ $100) btc to order in June, it comes in Nov.  So if you had mined more than 50 btc minus electricity it is compared to the original btc and the value of that today.

In other words if you kept that 50 btc from last June it is 50 x $523 = $26,150 with no other cost now.  

I was so bored I calculated the difficulty and every day mining: from mid Nov 2013 to Aug 8 2014 a Nov Jupiter at 660GH and 800 watts @.16 electricity net about 35.5 btc.  

$18,566 with btc @$523 today if you didnt sell any along the way.

Do you have these calcs in a spreadsheet perchance?

No, I had to do it by hand.  Take the date ranges for each difficulty sesson (usually 12-13 days) calculate the earnings minus electricity for that period.  And do for every period between the start and end times.

This helps:

Date                  Diff                    Jump         Network
Aug 19 2014   23,844,670,039   20.86%   170,686,797 GH/s
Aug 08 2014   19,729,645,941    5.30%   141,230,307 GH/s
Jul 25 2014           18,736,441,558    8.08%   134,120,673 GH/s
Jul 12 2014           17,336,316,979    3.08%   124,098,191 GH/s
Jun 29 2014   16,818,461,371   24.93%   120,391,236 GH/s
Jun 18 2014   13,462,580,115   14.51%    96,368,902 GH/s
Jun 05 2014   11,756,551,917   12.44%    84,156,677 GH/s
May 24 2014   10,455,720,138   18.10%    74,844,960 GH/s
May 12 2014    8,853,416,309   10.66%    63,375,223 GH/s
Apr 29 2014    8,000,872,136   14.64%    57,272,474 GH/s
Apr 17 2014    6,978,842,650   14.04%    49,956,502 GH/s
Apr 05 2014    6,119,726,089   22.23%    43,806,706 GH/s
Mar 24 2014    5,006,860,589   17.80%    35,840,504 GH/s
Mar 13 2014    4,250,217,920   11.39%    30,424,245 GH/s
Feb 28 2014    3,815,723,799   21.92%    27,314,015 GH/s
Feb 17 2014    3,129,573,175   19.39%    22,402,357 GH/s
Feb 05 2014    2,621,404,453   19.49%    18,764,744 GH/s
Jan 24 2014    2,193,847,870   22.59%    15,704,175 GH/s
Jan 13 2014    1,789,546,951   26.16%    12,810,076 GH/s
Jan 02 2014    1,418,481,395   20.12%    10,153,885 GH/s
Dec 21 2013    1,180,923,195   30.01%     8,453,378 GH/s
Dec 10 2013       908,350,862   28.41%     6,502,229 GH/s
Nov 29 2013       707,408,283   16.07%     5,063,826 GH/s
Nov 17 2013       609,482,680   19.29%     4,362,847 GH/s
Nov 05 2013       510,929,738   30.70%     3,657,378 GH/s
Oct 26 2013       390,928,788   46.02%     2,798,377 GH/s
Oct 16 2013       267,731,249   41.45%     1,916,495 GH/s
Oct 06 2013       189,281,249   27.19%     1,354,928 GH/s
Sep 25 2013       148,819,200   32.13%     1,065,289 GH/s
Sep 14 2013       112,628,549   29.56%       806,227 GH/s
Sep 04 2013        86,933,018   32.22%       622,291 GH/s
Aug 24 2013        65,750,060   29.40%       470,657 GH/s
Aug 13 2013        50,810,339   35.88%       363,715 GH/s
Aug 03 2013        37,392,766   19.63%       267,668 GH/s
Jul 22 2013                31,256,961   19.47%       223,746 GH/s
Jul 11 2013                26,162,876   22.63%       187,281 GH/s
Jun 29 2013        21,335,329   10.32%       152,724 GH/s
Jun 16 2013        19,339,258   23.92%       138,436 GH/s
Jun 05 2013        15,605,633   28.41%       111,709 GH/s
May 25 2013        12,153,412    8.64%       86,998 GH/s
May 12 2013        11,187,257   11.03%       80,082 GH/s
Apr 30 2013        10,076,293   12.28%       72,129 GH/s
Apr 17 2013         8,974,296   16.96%       64,241 GH/s
Apr 05 2013         7,673,000   14.59%       54,925 GH/s
Mar 24 2013         6,695,826   38.13%       47,931 GH/s
Mar 14 2013         4,847,647   10.98%       34,701 GH/s
Mar 01 2013         4,367,876   19.63%       31,266 GH/s
Feb 18 2013         3,651,012   11.47%       26,135 GH/s
Feb 05 2013         3,275,465   10.33%       23,447 GH/s
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August 22, 2014, 12:30:07 PM
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August 22, 2014, 12:32:10 PM
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So bonus miners are supposed to ship after batch 3 ? Not anymore.


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August 22, 2014, 12:41:09 PM
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So bonus miners are supposed to ship after batch 3 ? Not anymore.


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It says right in the sentence you quoted "reseller miners". Those would be the machines that resellers earned with the affiliate program not the 2nd free Neptune for regular buyers.
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August 22, 2014, 01:46:51 PM
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I requested a refund on 30.04.2014 and did not recived the cash until now

I`ve contacted the bank to do a callback and tey told me that the account
Bank Name: SEB (Skandinaviska Enskilda Banken)
Account Name: KnCMiner AB
IBAN (USD): SE1850000000054238202171
IBAN (EUR): SE6950000000054238210565 Use conversion rate 1 USD= 0.75 EUR
BIC/SWIFT:  ESSESESS
Bank Address:  SEB, St: Eriksgatan 32, 112 34 STOCKHOLM/SWEDEN
KnCMiner AB address: Birger Jarlsgatan 33 5tr, Stockholm, 111 45, Sweden.

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If you know a Swedish low firm in commercial low please pm  me

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I'm in the same boat.
I've contacted 3 firms already in Sweden & they skill turned my case down for either conflict of interest (meaning they're being paid off by KNC or something to that effect) & the other reason I was given by another firm was that my miserable $10,000 will be eaten up just by the suits' costs alone.

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Avalon 200Gh/s 55nm | Raspberry Pi model B | Minepeon 0.2.4.3 (...was 0.2.5-pr2) | BFGMiner 3.10.0 | 28x Manhattan USB 2.0/3.0 powered Hub | 5x ASIC Block Erupter @333 MH/s | 3x BFL Jalapeño's Total ~232.7 GH/s
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August 22, 2014, 01:53:26 PM
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KNC has probably put lots of Swedish lawyers on retainers to prevent legal action.


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August 22, 2014, 02:19:47 PM
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So 4 people and less than 35 Neptunes visible. Ok.

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August 22, 2014, 03:30:03 PM
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Hello,

Any one tried Hashlet already? Would like to have few mhs to play with before Tity ship, any advice or review of hashlet, thanks!



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August 22, 2014, 05:02:06 PM
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So what's the latest on connecting PC power supplies to the Neptune's, what is the general consensuses on what we use?

My Neptune was shipped yesterday and will arrive on Monday so I need to get a move on with respect to power. Smiley

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August 22, 2014, 05:33:55 PM
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So what's the latest on connecting PC power supplies to the Neptune's, what is the general consensuses on what we use?

My Neptune was shipped yesterday and will arrive on Monday so I need to get a move on with respect to power. Smiley

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Are you batch 2? There is an ongoing discussion whether KNC shipped anything form batch 2 (here, as well as on KNC forums) like their announcement said, and if you are you would be the first confirmed one.
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Are you batch 2? There is an ongoing discussion whether KNC shipped anything form batch 2 (here, as well as on KNC forums) like their announcement said, and if you are you would be the first confirmed one.

Yes I am a Batch 2 customer.
This is means B2 by KNC's standards as they don't count the introductory offer to their KNC customers as B1 and the next offer to everyone as B2, instead they counted the introductory offer and the offer to everyone else as B1 units, then in late Nov or early Dec they started selling B2 units, which is what I ordered and should be here on Monday, it was shipped from Sweden yesterday. It's already in the US. Smiley

 

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Yes I am a Batch 2 customer.
This is means B2 by KNC's standards as they don't count the introductory offer to their KNC customers as B1 and the next offer to everyone as B2, instead they counted the introductory offer and the offer to everyone else as B1 units, then in late Nov or early Dec they started selling B2 units, which is what I ordered and should be here on Monday, it was shipped from Sweden yesterday. It's already in the US. Smiley

Actually they count the introductory as Batch 0 ($10,000), then the $12-grand one as Batch 1, and then Batch 2 is Dec-Feb orders again for $10,000. I'm guessing then you're indeed Batch 2. Any willingness to share first three digits of your order number? Just so we know where we're at. I will understand if you don't Smiley

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I'm 189xx (B2) myself and still not shipped, or even "in production".
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Actually they count the introductory as Batch 0 ($10,000), then the $12-grand one as Batch 1, and then Batch 2 is Dec-Feb orders again for $10,000. I'm guessing then you're indeed Batch 2. Any willingness to share first three digits of your order number? Just so we know where we're at. I will understand if you don't Smiley

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I'm 189xx (B2) myself and still not shipped, or even "in production".

Not sure if you have seen this thread?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348957.0

I am listed at the bottom, the don't list the batches correctly even though I told the OP who doesn't care. Sad

My order number is 172xx
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August 22, 2014, 07:11:44 PM
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I may have to ask UPS to return to sender when my KNC gets here. I just found out from a B1 Canadian receiver they had to pay an additional $2100 in taxes and duties to UPS, unfortunately I can't forgo this as I would not be able to recover this cost.

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I may have to ask UPS to return to sender when my KNC gets here. I just found out from a B1 Canadian receiver they had to pay an additional $2100 in taxes and duties to UPS, unfortunately I can't forgo this as I would not be able to recover this cost.

Pfff... you may return it to sender, but good luck getting a refund this way. A better option, I think, is to sell it (albeit a bit cheaper) quickly to someone who is willing to also pay the customs tax. But still, you should wait until you get the invoice from UPS, you may just slip through Wink

For anyone else receiving this kind of equipment from overseas (doesn't matter in which direction)- most companies can't estimate what you would pay in customs for your units. I had this exact situation last year when receiving from BFL, I had to pay customs for my order when coming from US to EU. Since each country has very, and I mean very complex customs laws, it's more or less unpredictable for businesses even if they are willing to give you an exact quote. And don't even get me started on shipments from China... Depending on where you are, you can pay from nothing to 200% import tax... So always keep this one in mind Wink
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Pfff... you may return it to sender, but good luck getting a refund this way. A better option, I think, is to sell it (albeit a bit cheaper) quickly to someone who is willing to also pay the customs tax. But still, you should wait until you get the invoice from UPS, you may just slip through Wink

For anyone else receiving this kind of equipment from overseas (doesn't matter in which direction)- most companies can't estimate what you would pay in customs for your units. I had this exact situation last year when receiving from BFL, I had to pay customs for my order when coming from US to EU. Since each country has very, and I mean very complex customs laws, it's more or less unpredictable for businesses even if they are willing to give you an exact quote. And don't even get me started on shipments from China... Depending on where you are, you can pay from nothing to 200% import tax... So always keep this one in mind Wink

I buy stuff from Ebay all the time, even from places in the states that are the farthest from me. It just depends on how the sender sends the items, they can send with the full price value or they can mark it down. Most companies in the US who sell stuff over the internet either mark the price down or charge you the tax, if they charge you tax it costs you nothing when it gets to your door.

So really it depends on the company who's sending it.

Unfortunately I can't recoup the $12k plus the $2100 for duty and taxes and I am not about to take a loss on a brand new product, so I will take the risk. I have already informed KNC Miner so they are aware and kept in the loop.
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I buy stuff from Ebay all the time, even from places in the states that are the farthest from me. It just depends on how the sender sends the items, they can send with the full price value or they can mark it down. Most companies in the US who sell stuff over the internet either mark the price down or charge you the tax, if they charge you tax it costs you nothing when it gets to your door.

So really it depends on the company who's sending it.

Unfortunately I can't recoup the $12k plus the $2100 for duty and taxes and I am not about to take a loss on a brand new product, so I will take the risk. I have already informed KNC Miner so they are aware and kept in the loop.

I do sincerely wish you good luck with the refund.

Still, I was talking about shipments overseas. US to Canada and vise-verse is easy, as a lot of US and CA companies do that and have experience. But ask a US company to estimate customs charges to EU, or China, or Middle East. Or ask a EU company to estimate customs tax to anywhere outside of EU... There are 193 UN recognized countries... It's simply impossible (or rather very expensive for a company to research) until you, as an end-user, get the bill Smiley

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I'm not defending KNC in any way (not after the wait the forced me to endure), all I'm saying is that for any such equipment it would be good to ask how it is being declared at customs and do research for your country on how much you're expected to pay for import. It's not directed at you, it's generic advice for all our miner buddies out there Wink
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August 22, 2014, 09:07:02 PM
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I'm a Batch 0 customer in Canada and UPS charged me a bit over $500 CAD for customs fees. $2100 sounds quite ridiculous, especially this late in the game with difficulty so high. Maybe KNC can mark the Neptunes true current value which I would say is about $5k CAD.
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August 22, 2014, 09:34:46 PM
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I'm a Batch 0 customer in Canada and UPS charged me a bit over $500 CAD for customs fees. $2100 sounds quite ridiculous, especially this late in the game with difficulty so high. Maybe KNC can mark the Neptunes true current value which I would say is about $5k CAD.

I can stand paying $500 for a Neptune in duty and taxes but not $2100. It has to be reasonable, so I will let UPS process it but if it comes to me with some stupid ridiculous price I am going to have to say NO! lol

I just got off the phone with UPS they say that KNC marked the value my Neptune at $10k, so that would be HST I believe, $1300 plus duty.

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