Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[Phoenix1969]

has anyone got any idea when batch 2 will begin to be dispatched , unsurprisingly knc are mute on the matter?

Most likely September 30th (last day of q3) if they still don't use Astro-glide....  anything sooner would be a shocking surprise.

eh, Biffa...  agreed... Removed my loving response to just let their Karma shine through.

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[Ski72]

was thinking about an alternative to the KnC "box" design ...

Here's a simple open design, having the boards sitting above the base more than they are now, as well have the base itself raised off what ever its put on with venting underneath ...

suggestions ...?

http://imgur.com/z1b1dJw

[Phoenix1969]

was thinking about an alternative to the KnC "box" design ...

Here's a simple open design, having the boards sitting above the base more than they are now, as well have the base itself raised off what ever its put on with venting underneath ...

suggestions ...?

http://imgur.com/z1b1dJw

Looks great...    I'm sure everyone would rather of had something like that.
I think the only reason we have the "Cubes" is because they needed to be sure they could deliver over 3Th/s, and whatta mess!

*I'd like to see a 10Th/s,  15pcb, watercooled box with its own psu's, and wifi    
...but I'm guessing they may not sell another unit beyond Batch 3... "Wild guess".
They may decide to just produce boards for themselves from now on, filling a few more Boden facilities up...who knows.
It may depend on BTC price a bit as well...  if the price should suddenly double or something, and stabilize...
Hard to guess what they're actual cost of producing a Neppy is, where the cut-off point is for maintaining a profit margin on sales.
"How low can they go?"

[btc_uzr]

...
*I'd like to see a 10Th/s  15pcb box with its own psu's, and wifi    
...but I'm guessing they may not sell another unit beyond Batch 3... "Wild guess".

Neptune is the last planet of the solar system.
Next sha256 product will be for the big boys, only.

THE MILKYWAY
1 PH/s
16nm Technology
PSU and WiFi included
Price: $2,000,000
Shipping: $185,000
Delivery: 2015/2016
*Non-Refundable




Then in 2017 when most of them are being shipped, customers report fires again,
but now serious ones (draws again too much power through the only plug available)..

*edit:
ok it might be called UrAnus, since they named before the bigger one Jupiter and the smaller one Saturn

[EvilPanda]

This is getting serious
https://hashtrader.com/t/my-knc-commitment/3222

[crashoveride54902]

...
*I'd like to see a 10Th/s  15pcb box with its own psu's, and wifi    
...but I'm guessing they may not sell another unit beyond Batch 3... "Wild guess".

Neptune is the last planet of the solar system.
Next sha256 product will be for the big boys, only.

THE MILKYWAY
1 PH/s
16nm Technology
PSU and WiFi included
Price: $2,000,000
Shipping: $185,000
Delivery: 2015/2016
*Non-Refundable




Then in 2017 when most of them are being shipped, customers report fires again,
but now serious ones (draws again too much power through the only plug available)..

*edit:
ok it might be called UrAnus, since they named before the bigger one Jupiter and the smaller one Saturn

I'll buy 1000 right now...preorder gimme gimme...i wish not that i could buy preorder but i had nuff money to do it

[Searing]

was thinking about an alternative to the KnC "box" design ...

Here's a simple open design, having the boards sitting above the base more than they are now, as well have the base itself raised off what ever its put on with venting underneath ...

suggestions ...?

http://imgur.com/z1b1dJw

but the individual cube design by KNC is for easy quick swap into their data center (the first one)
I bet if you look at the boards the holes mounting the card to the metal base is the same as for the
jupiter setup ...for easy addition to the data hall......

heh....where do you think the other half of the Neptunes  in the que to KNC are going ...heh  surely not 'customers'



Searing

[kingscrown]

4 neptunes rocking pic: http://instagram.com/p/qno9H4QqnY/

[Searing]

This is getting serious
https://hashtrader.com/t/my-knc-commitment/3222

er crap....likely on repeated points to this post to KNC it will just be ignored...I mean KNC has a "no refund" policy so no great loss
to them to ignore the above...but with the above GAW Vaultbreaker ...they offer refunds...so whatever you want to say he
has put his money where his mouth is ..ie big brass ones...got to respect that

anyway Titan (due to no refunds) is likely it for me...i find www.coinbase.com much more 'soothing' lately ....

getting tired of the 'mining' drama esp since it is all gonna go 'corporate' anyway

Searing

[Phoenix1969]

4 neptunes rocking pic: http://instagram.com/p/qno9H4QqnY/

I only see 4/5ths of a single Neptune...  you thought you got four Neptunes?  Where's the 5th cube?
.... or the other 3&1/5ths neptunes?

*The pci plug in your pic is dangerous... use the other plug, closest to the psu with shortest length ... no extensions  The 16awg wire there at the splice could catch fire. 290 watts is far beyond 16awg's spec limits... and a splice like that is "scary"   just sayin'    You may even get better hashrate if you are below 3.4th/s by much. "Starving" the cubes at startup results in dead asics/vrm's. Maximizing available current at boot is critical.  Good luck.

was thinking about an alternative to the KnC "box" design ...

Here's a simple open design, having the boards sitting above the base more than they are now, as well have the base itself raised off what ever its put on with venting underneath ...

suggestions ...?

http://imgur.com/z1b1dJw

but the individual cube design by KNC is for easy quick swap into their data center (the first one)
I bet if you look at the boards the holes mounting the card to the metal base is the same as for the
jupiter setup ...for easy addition to the data hall......

heh....where do you think the other half of the Neptunes  in the que to KNC are going ...heh  surely not 'customers'



Searing

90 degrees opposite way the holes are...  but yeah...  I can just imagine the wiring mess in the data-hall now....  

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[btc_uzr]

This is getting serious
https://hashtrader.com/t/my-knc-commitment/3222

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gaw_ceo at July 18th, 2014 20:54 — #1

I want to make something clear about our VaultBreakers.

There is NO scenario where I will allow KNC to beat us to market. If, by some miracle, they happen to be ready to ship before us. I will use my data center to spin up all your VaultBreakers until they are ready to be shipped (assuming they are shipped units)

Again, there is no way I will allow them to deliver hashing power before we deliver to our customers. This is my commitment to all VB customers. Please spread the word.

Scrypt Mining is my house, and I will not be beat in my own house smile

Josh- CEO

[Searing]

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gaw_ceo at July 18th, 2014 20:54 — #1

I want to make something clear about our VaultBreakers.

There is NO scenario where I will allow KNC to beat us to market. If, by some miracle, they happen to be ready to ship before us. I will use my data center to spin up all your VaultBreakers until they are ready to be shipped (assuming they are shipped units)

Again, there is no way I will allow them to deliver hashing power before we deliver to our customers. This is my commitment to all VB customers. Please spread the word.

Scrypt Mining is my house, and I will not be beat in my own house smile

Josh- CEO

http://www.gawminers.com/zencloud/

the guy is serious..look at his cloud hashing option on orders vs shipping ...ie you mine from the day you buy it ....if/when you tell him to ship it

he is aggressive....calling out knc by name not 'our competitors' again 'big brass ones'

Searing

[Phoenix1969]

 ...... but his name is "Josh", and that just scares me

[Searing]

...... but his name is "Josh", and that just scares me

the poor unfortunate fellow.....would be hell on KNC right now if they allowed refunds on the first batch
Titans esp since NO CLEAR (ie announcement) that the 1st batch will be 400mh like the 2nd batch..still stated at 300mh

if I could get a refund and only had 3 choices I would do the following with my 10,131.80 Titan refund as follows:

1) use it all to just buy BTC (www.coinbase.com..relaxing no drama or BFL/KNC flashbacks after you hit the pre-order button to whomever)

2) Could get 3 of the mini vaults @ 375mh in q3/early q4 so total of 1125mh for an additional  $1,253.20 usd and could refund up to 14 days before shipping
    (shipping is free) again the q3/q4 is an issue but not if you can refund up to 2 weeks before shipping and that is (for the above additional... amount added to the Titan
    refund......
    IF AS THEY CURRENTLY STATE the 1st batch Titan will be 300mh well that is (for your $1,253.20 usd extra) 3.75 times the hash...but again the kicker
    is being able to refund up to 14 days before shipping heh ...silly newbies....KNC used to do that before moving to the dark side of the asic/ph farm force...

3) Double down and get 2 750 mh units from GAW for 1500mh for $13990.00 usd or 3,585.00 usd more with your mthyical Titan refund
   or 5x the hashing power of a batch 1 knc Titan again these units come with free shipping to the USA....

Anyway arms race that all this is.....1) is probably the wise bet.... just buy BTC on www.coinbase.com ..this arms race is a bit ugly imho.


But refunds shipping free....cloud hashing for .10kwh plus 10% elec costs and you can cancel anytime and have your miner shipped to you

yeah GAW miners is being a bit aggressive it seems

(shouts in forum....asic fight asic fight ...'fight club")

Searing

[Biffa]

...... but his name is "Josh", and that just scares me

the poor unfortunate fellow.....would be hell on KNC right now if they allowed refunds on the first batch
Titans esp since NO CLEAR (ie announcement) that the 1st batch will be 400mh like the 2nd batch..still stated at 300mh

if I could get a refund and only had 3 choices I would do the following with my 10,131.80 Titan refund as follows:

1) use it all to just buy BTC (www.coinbase.com..relaxing no drama or BFL/KNC flashbacks after you hit the pre-order button to whomever)

2) Could get 3 of the mini vaults @ 375mh in q3/early q4 so total of 1125mh for an additional  $1,253.20 usd and could refund up to 14 days before shipping
    (shipping is free) again the q3/q4 is an issue but not if you can refund up to 2 weeks before shipping and that is (for the above additional... amount added to the Titan
    refund......
    IF AS THEY CURRENTLY STATE the 1st batch Titan will be 300mh well that is (for your $1,253.20 usd extra) 3.75 times the hash...but again the kicker
    is being able to refund up to 14 days before shipping heh ...silly newbies....KNC used to do that before moving to the dark side of the asic/ph farm force...

3) Double down and get 2 750 mh units from GAW for 1500mh for $13990.00 usd or 3,585.00 usd more with your mthyical Titan refund
   or 5x the hashing power of a batch 1 knc Titan again these units come with free shipping to the USA....

Anyway arms race that all this is.....1) is probably the wise bet.... just buy BTC on www.coinbase.com ..this arms race is a bit ugly imho.


But refunds shipping free....cloud hashing for .10kwh plus 10% elec costs and you can cancel anytime and have your miner shipped to you

yeah GAW miners is being a bit aggressive it seems

(shouts in forum....asic fight asic fight ...'fight club")

Searing

With an best return across multiple alt scrypt coins of 0.0007 BTC/mh/day I'm not planning on expanding my scrypt farm any time soon.

[bitgeek]

...... but his name is "Josh", and that just scares me

the poor unfortunate fellow.....would be hell on KNC right now if they allowed refunds on the first batch
Titans esp since NO CLEAR (ie announcement) that the 1st batch will be 400mh like the 2nd batch..still stated at 300mh

if I could get a refund and only had 3 choices I would do the following with my 10,131.80 Titan refund as follows:

1) use it all to just buy BTC (www.coinbase.com..relaxing no drama or BFL/KNC flashbacks after you hit the pre-order button to whomever)

2) Could get 3 of the mini vaults @ 375mh in q3/early q4 so total of 1125mh for an additional  $1,253.20 usd and could refund up to 14 days before shipping
    (shipping is free) again the q3/q4 is an issue but not if you can refund up to 2 weeks before shipping and that is (for the above additional... amount added to the Titan
    refund......
    IF AS THEY CURRENTLY STATE the 1st batch Titan will be 300mh well that is (for your $1,253.20 usd extra) 3.75 times the hash...but again the kicker
    is being able to refund up to 14 days before shipping heh ...silly newbies....KNC used to do that before moving to the dark side of the asic/ph farm force...

3) Double down and get 2 750 mh units from GAW for 1500mh for $13990.00 usd or 3,585.00 usd more with your mthyical Titan refund
   or 5x the hashing power of a batch 1 knc Titan again these units come with free shipping to the USA....

Anyway arms race that all this is.....1) is probably the wise bet.... just buy BTC on www.coinbase.com ..this arms race is a bit ugly imho.


But refunds shipping free....cloud hashing for .10kwh plus 10% elec costs and you can cancel anytime and have your miner shipped to you

yeah GAW miners is being a bit aggressive it seems

(shouts in forum....asic fight asic fight ...'fight club")

Searing

I'm beginning to like this fight club. Josh really wants to win the race and if you're a potential buyer there's nothing better from a fierce competition between between sellers.
This just means better deals for us

If you're scared of Josh check this out: http://www.ourbabynamer.com/Josh-name-popularity.html
In the 80's there were over 300 of them born in the US every year. You could make a whole army out of ~30 year old Joshes!

[crashoveride54902]

...... but his name is "Josh", and that just scares me

the poor unfortunate fellow.....would be hell on KNC right now if they allowed refunds on the first batch
Titans esp since NO CLEAR (ie announcement) that the 1st batch will be 400mh like the 2nd batch..still stated at 300mh

if I could get a refund and only had 3 choices I would do the following with my 10,131.80 Titan refund as follows:

*snip*


But refunds shipping free....cloud hashing for .10kwh plus 10% elec costs and you can cancel anytime and have your miner shipped to you

yeah GAW miners is being a bit aggressive it seems

(shouts in forum....asic fight asic fight ...'fight club")

Searing

With an best return across multiple alt scrypt coins of 0.0007 BTC/mh/day I'm not planning on expanding my scrypt farm any time soon.

just mine ltc and hold til better prices...how is this any different then mining btc n holding for better prices?

[s1gs3gv]

just mine ltc and hold til better prices...how is this any different then mining btc n holding for better prices?

This question reduces to how is ltc different than btc. The answer is self evident.

[crashoveride54902]

just mine ltc and hold til better prices...how is this any different then mining btc n holding for better prices?

This question reduces to how is ltc different than btc. The answer is self evident.

well ya btc is better, but if you have the gear or have preordered gear scrypt gear, then might as well just mine as much ltc ya can and wait til it gets back upto .03btc a coin...seems to follow along with btc most of the times...i just got into scyrpt mining myself...tryed the alt coins for a day or so..eh to much up n down with how much ya make so i just switched to ltc n will let'er ride for awhile

[Phoenix1969]

...... but his name is "Josh", and that just scares me

the poor unfortunate fellow.....would be hell on KNC right now if they allowed refunds on the first batch
Titans esp since NO CLEAR (ie announcement) that the 1st batch will be 400mh like the 2nd batch..still stated at 300mh

if I could get a refund and only had 3 choices I would do the following with my 10,131.80 Titan refund as follows:

1) use it all to just buy BTC (www.coinbase.com..relaxing no drama or BFL/KNC flashbacks after you hit the pre-order button to whomever)

2) Could get 3 of the mini vaults @ 375mh in q3/early q4 so total of 1125mh for an additional  $1,253.20 usd and could refund up to 14 days before shipping
    (shipping is free) again the q3/q4 is an issue but not if you can refund up to 2 weeks before shipping and that is (for the above additional... amount added to the Titan
    refund......
    IF AS THEY CURRENTLY STATE the 1st batch Titan will be 300mh well that is (for your $1,253.20 usd extra) 3.75 times the hash...but again the kicker
    is being able to refund up to 14 days before shipping heh ...silly newbies....KNC used to do that before moving to the dark side of the asic/ph farm force...

3) Double down and get 2 750 mh units from GAW for 1500mh for $13990.00 usd or 3,585.00 usd more with your mthyical Titan refund
   or 5x the hashing power of a batch 1 knc Titan again these units come with free shipping to the USA....

Anyway arms race that all this is.....1) is probably the wise bet.... just buy BTC on www.coinbase.com ..this arms race is a bit ugly imho.


But refunds shipping free....cloud hashing for .10kwh plus 10% elec costs and you can cancel anytime and have your miner shipped to you

yeah GAW miners is being a bit aggressive it seems

(shouts in forum....asic fight asic fight ...'fight club")

Searing

With an best return across multiple alt scrypt coins of 0.0007 BTC/mh/day I'm not planning on expanding my scrypt farm any time soon.

Wow.  For Titan, That's better than 2 Neptunes bring in per dayATM!   2 Neppies barely make .2BTC/day,    
if you are getting 0007BTC/Mhz/day x 400Mhz(Titan) =  .28BTC/day/Titan.    That's 280% more BTC a Titan makes than a Neppie ATM



ALSO...  Need to clear something up....   Did Kurt ever indicate that B1 Titans were slower than B2 Titans?  
All standard Titans are to be 400Mhz or better... right?
Someone I was speaking to recent thought the latest announcements indicated B1 would be 300Mhz compared to B2(Having changed the board?) being 400Mhz...   I read it as ALL Standard Titans are to be 400 or better.....  and The intro of"mini was the main theme .      thoughts?

Here's the clip we were lookin' at:



Thoughts?   The damned thing reads like B1 is 300 and B2 is 400.....   ?