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October 10, 2013, 12:26:35 AM
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omg, I'm dyin here....  Ive tried every ip address wireshark displays...its like reading greek or something...  I'm clueless...
the texas instruments ip doesnt work either
its running, nothing on the pool, and cant access the ip address... cause I cant find it



you cant enter your router???
its a routerless system...  ethernet switch bridged to wifi

you can try this method

http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/main-category/main-forum/4666-find-your-miners-ip-address-with-arp-a-works-in-win-and-linux

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HELP.. I have no idea how to use wireshark...  and cant find the ip address of the miner...
is there an easy way?


Trying arp -a from a Windows cmd box give me three addresses on my network while on a linux machine the same command comes up with 7 addresses.  The three from the XP cmd box are two Raspberry Pi and the router gateway.  A Blade address as well as three machines running linux and samba aren't reported by Windows arp -a.  So, the question is, will a Jupiter respond to a Windows arp -a from as the the pair of Raspberry Pi (one running minepeon and the other stratum-mining-proxy) do or as the Blade does?  The Blade isn't showing up arp -a on a Debian linux nor with arp -a in an XP cmd box.
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October 10, 2013, 12:33:14 AM
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They were probably safeguards/margins in case some terminals did not work. In any case, no one promised 6 ports. I expect to be able to upgrade Saturn to Jupiter, but not further.
AHEM! This photo is what they describe as their controller board and you see 1 2 3 4 5 6
 https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-39
Yes, you see them on a picture describing the slogan. It does not say anywhere that all 6 will be in use.

I am more worried about those capacitors. Everything else seems like nitpicking.
So you don't care if they sell 7000 Jupiters in China in the next month or two? Maybe in China they have another bitcoin, unrelated to the one you mine?

KNC promised to take care of the customers who gave them a free loan of millions to start their business. This ^ does not do that.

I will admit I was pretty annoyed when I seen them open a Chinese version of the website.  I take it the network protection statement means nothing now?

On the flipside, how many Chinese can actually afford these miners?

Fucking millions. They aren't all riding bikes in coolie hats these days. In my local uni there are 5 to 10 thousand chinese students and coming to live here to study for 4 years with no finance isn't cheap. They are a long way from poor.

China will be massive. Bitcoins are a lot more useful for them than for us. Remember the gold mining farms they used to run?

Check the ratio of mercs bought , China almost equal to the US and it's same for all luxury car makers. They have loads of cash to spend http://www.autoblog.com/2013/10/05/mercedes-september-sales-best-in-87-years/

Not all that many years ago a photo of a Bejing main street showed a couple or three vehicles, little more.
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October 10, 2013, 12:37:27 AM
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HELP.. I have no idea how to use wireshark...  and cant find the ip address of the miner...
is there an easy way?


Trying arp -a from a Windows cmd box give me three addresses on my network while on a linux machine the same command comes up with 7 addresses.  The three from the XP cmd box are two Raspberry Pi and the router gateway.  A Blade address as well as three machines running linux and samba aren't reported by Windows.  So, the question is, will a Jupiter respond to arp -a from Windows as the Raspberry Pi do or as the Blade does?
arp -a did NOT show mine, via windows.

Phoenix... any progress?

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October 10, 2013, 12:39:11 AM
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HELP.. I have no idea how to use wireshark...  and cant find the ip address of the miner...
is there an easy way?


Trying arp -a from a Windows cmd box give me three addresses on my network while on a linux machine the same command comes up with 7 addresses.  The three from the XP cmd box are two Raspberry Pi and the router gateway.  A Blade address as well as three machines running linux and samba aren't reported by Windows.  So, the question is, will a Jupiter respond to arp -a from Windows as the Raspberry Pi do or as the Blade does?

arp -a is just listing the Address Resolution Protocol cache on the machine it is run on.

If the device you are looking for has not xmit the info arp -a will not find it.

The suggested download above by merv77 may try pinging all addresses and may find things that arp will not.

arp does not send anything

EDIT the BBB needs DHCP to get an address for arp to find

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October 10, 2013, 12:39:39 AM
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omg, I'm dyin here....  Ive tried every ip address wireshark displays...its like reading greek or something...  I'm clueless...
the texas instruments ip doesnt work either
its running, nothing on the pool, and cant access the ip address... cause I cant find it



you cant enter your router???
its a routerless system...  ethernet switch bridged to wifi

If I understand bridging correctly you should be on the same network as the wifi and the wifi router will be able to tell you what dynamic IP addresses have been assigned.  Plug those into a browser address field one at a time.
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October 10, 2013, 12:41:18 AM
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HELP.. I have no idea how to use wireshark...  and cant find the ip address of the miner...
is there an easy way?


Trying arp -a from a Windows cmd box give me three addresses on my network while on a linux machine the same command comes up with 7 addresses.  The three from the XP cmd box are two Raspberry Pi and the router gateway.  A Blade address as well as three machines running linux and samba aren't reported by Windows.  So, the question is, will a Jupiter respond to arp -a from Windows as the Raspberry Pi do or as the Blade does?
arp -a did NOT show mine, via windows.

Phoenix... any progress?

I used NMAP.   

  nmap -sP 163.193.1.1/24

then grabbed the TI record.

  Nmap scan report for (163.193.194.169)
  Host is up (0.0060s latency).
  MAC Address: xx:xx:xx:Xx:Xx:Xx (Texas Instruments)

sucked... network had 500+ machines on it but was able to find it..
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October 10, 2013, 12:42:22 AM
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there is a real easy way to find it but i need him to pm me back..

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October 10, 2013, 12:44:35 AM
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HELP.. I have no idea how to use wireshark...  and cant find the ip address of the miner...
is there an easy way?


Trying arp -a from a Windows cmd box gives me three addresses on my network while on a linux machine the same command comes up with 7 addresses.  The three from the XP cmd box are two Raspberry Pi and the router gateway.  A Blade address as well as three machines running linux and samba aren't reported by Windows arp -a.  So, the question is, will a Jupiter respond to a Windows arp -a as the the pair of Raspberry Pi (one running minepeon and the other stratum-mining-proxy) do or as the Blade does?  The Blade isn't showing up arp -a on a Debian linux nor with arp -a in an XP cmd box.

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October 10, 2013, 12:44:51 AM
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there is a real easy way to find it but i need him to pm me back..
Why not tell us all so it is here for people to link others to that have the same problem?

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October 10, 2013, 12:56:56 AM
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omg, I'm dyin here....  Ive tried every ip address wireshark displays...its like reading greek or something...  I'm clueless...
the texas instruments ip doesnt work either
its running, nothing on the pool, and cant access the ip address... cause I cant find it



you cant enter your router???
its a routerless system...  ethernet switch bridged to wifi

Something is giving your network IP addresses, on some piece of hardware runs DHCP server. It can even be an ethernet switch, I've seen the simplest 4-port switches with DHCP server and web interface on them. Find such a device somewhere on your network an log into it's web interface, there you'll find a list of assigned IP addresses. However, if there is no such a device, which is possible in practice with network with all fixed IP address (highly not recommended for home use), any device needing and not getting the address will assign itself an APIPA address. You'll then be in trouble, then you'll really need a router to access your miner.

To cut the long story short: buy a cheap wifi/ethernet router like http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WR702N-Wireless-Repeater-150Mpbs/dp/B007PTCFFW, it's worth it's US$20 in gold for these purposes.
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October 10, 2013, 12:59:30 AM
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Try with a normal ethernet cable first before trying anything else.

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plug the miner straight into a PC that is running DHCP server (dhcpd for the linux folks)

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October 10, 2013, 01:17:38 AM
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HELP.. I have no idea how to use wireshark...  and cant find the ip address of the miner...
is there an easy way?


Trying arp -a from a Windows cmd box give me three addresses on my network while on a linux machine the same command comes up with 7 addresses.  The three from the XP cmd box are two Raspberry Pi and the router gateway.  A Blade address as well as three machines running linux and samba aren't reported by Windows.  So, the question is, will a Jupiter respond to arp -a from Windows as the Raspberry Pi do or as the Blade does?
arp -a did NOT show mine, via windows.

Phoenix... any progress?

I used NMAP.   

  nmap -sP 163.193.1.1/24

then grabbed the TI record.

  Nmap scan report for (163.193.194.169)
  Host is up (0.0060s latency).
  MAC Address: xx:xx:xx:Xx:Xx:Xx (Texas Instruments)

sucked... network had 500+ machines on it but was able to find it..

Nmap worked!  Showed the Blade as well.  It wasn't installed by default on my linux machines but worked immediately after installation.  I tried installing it on a RPi but failed as sources needed updating.  Ran update and am installing nmap now.  Probably should have gone with download source package so as to preempt all these additional packages that are time consuming and with limited space on the SD card.....
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October 10, 2013, 01:18:12 AM
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he might have no DHCP on whatever he is plugging into

perhaps just give static IP... ah that's right cant do that until you log in first.. lulz from KnC  Cool

if you are desperate, just plug a laptop directly into your miner and go at it

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October 10, 2013, 01:27:36 AM
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HELP.. I have no idea how to use wireshark...  and cant find the ip address of the miner...
is there an easy way?


Trying arp -a from a Windows cmd box give me three addresses on my network while on a linux machine the same command comes up with 7 addresses.  The three from the XP cmd box are two Raspberry Pi and the router gateway.  A Blade address as well as three machines running linux and samba aren't reported by Windows.  So, the question is, will a Jupiter respond to arp -a from Windows as the Raspberry Pi do or as the Blade does?
arp -a did NOT show mine, via windows.

Phoenix... any progress?

I used NMAP.   

  nmap -sP 163.193.1.1/24

then grabbed the TI record.

  Nmap scan report for (163.193.194.169)
  Host is up (0.0060s latency).
  MAC Address: xx:xx:xx:Xx:Xx:Xx (Texas Instruments)

sucked... network had 500+ machines on it but was able to find it..

Nmap worked!  Showed the Blade as well.  It wasn't installed by default on my linux machines but worked immediately after installation.  I tried installing it on a RPi but failed as sources needed updating.  Ran update and am installing nmap now.  Probably should have gone with download source package so as to preempt all these additional packages that are time consuming and with limited space on the SD card.....

Yep, works just as well on RPi.  Interestingly both a debian machine and an RPi, both using nmap -sP 192.168.1.001. showed an unknown address in the DHCP range but not assigned by the DHCP server.  Google shows it has something to do with Windows and that the address is likely assigned to a device in the Windows machine itself.  (Hon Hai Precision Ind.Co.) manufactures the interface and Foxconn manufactured the mb.
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October 10, 2013, 01:49:21 AM
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Okay, so what the hell is the L/P for SSH access? No, it's not admin/admin.

EDIT: never mind L: root P: whatever_you've_set_for_webui
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October 10, 2013, 01:52:35 AM
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KnCMiner Hosting Pool

portal.kncminer.com


I've logged in an verified I have 11 Jupiters running.

Looks like they are getting it operational!


ack 11 Jupiters ack..(clutches heart.....would be too beautiful to look at)   ack

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October 10, 2013, 01:56:12 AM
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HELP.. I have no idea how to use wireshark...  and cant find the ip address of the miner...
is there an easy way?


Trying arp -a from a Windows cmd box give me three addresses on my network while on a linux machine the same command comes up with 7 addresses.  The three from the XP cmd box are two Raspberry Pi and the router gateway.  A Blade address as well as three machines running linux and samba aren't reported by Windows.  So, the question is, will a Jupiter respond to arp -a from Windows as the Raspberry Pi do or as the Blade does?
arp -a did NOT show mine, via windows.

Phoenix... any progress?

I used NMAP.   

  nmap -sP 163.193.1.1/24

then grabbed the TI record.

  Nmap scan report for (163.193.194.169)
  Host is up (0.0060s latency).
  MAC Address: xx:xx:xx:Xx:Xx:Xx (Texas Instruments)

sucked... network had 500+ machines on it but was able to find it..

Nmap worked!  Showed the Blade as well.  It wasn't installed by default on my linux machines but worked immediately after installation.  I tried installing it on a RPi but failed as sources needed updating.  Ran update and am installing nmap now.  Probably should have gone with download source package so as to preempt all these additional packages that are time consuming and with limited space on the SD card.....

Yep, works just as well on RPi.  Interestingly both a debian machine and an RPi, both using nmap -sP 192.168.1.001. showed an unknown address in the DHCP range but not assigned by the DHCP server.  Google shows it has something to do with Windows and that the address is likely assigned to a device in the Windows machine itself.  (Hon Hai Precision Ind.Co.) manufactures the interface and Foxconn manufactured the mb.

That's probably the NSA's direct connect IP....
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October 10, 2013, 01:56:55 AM
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two Jupiters running here

only 1 of the 8 fans were still mounted.   I asked to just mail them unmounted to begin with and they said 'on no, we can't ship them unmounted...'  well they can't ship them mounted either

anyway..  got one running ~490 but the other just ~400 both running .94 firmware

they do run hot as balls - I took off the lid and put big fans pointing down on each miner.  Will keep improving airflow as much as possible




you probably know this but check the fan direction etc....just saying (its always the little stuff that gets me)


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October 10, 2013, 02:06:40 AM
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They were probably safeguards/margins in case some terminals did not work. In any case, no one promised 6 ports. I expect to be able to upgrade Saturn to Jupiter, but not further.
AHEM! This photo is what they describe as their controller board and you see 1 2 3 4 5 6
 https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-39
Yes, you see them on a picture describing the slogan. It does not say anywhere that all 6 will be in use.

I am more worried about those capacitors. Everything else seems like nitpicking.
So you don't care if they sell 7000 Jupiters in China in the next month or two? Maybe in China they have another bitcoin, unrelated to the one you mine?

KNC promised to take care of the customers who gave them a free loan of millions to start their business. This ^ does not do that.

I will admit I was pretty annoyed when I seen them open a Chinese version of the website.  I take it the network protection statement means nothing now?

On the flipside, how many Chinese can actually afford these miners?
 

do a google search on Chinese bitcoin...it is NUTS over there..the gov't so far has let BTC ride and with the central economy you have limited things you can invest in (ie real estate which is getting dangerous with a bubble) or bitcoin....so yeah.....when they see that knc miner and the price compared to what the Chinese used to pay etc..it is gonna go very very crazy imho...

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