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October 17, 2013, 01:43:57 AM
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Should we be expecting some kind of BFG support sometime soon? One with not so high of an error rate? :-)
I'll see what I can do as soon as it gets here. Can't promise lower error rate, though - there might be a good reason for that.
Accurate reporting of the hashrate after hardware errors, though, is what the 3rd hashrate is for Smiley
That would explain why it's missing from KNC's version...  hum
Well, KnC's current version is based off cgminer, which doesn't have it at all...

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October 17, 2013, 01:47:37 AM
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Could anyone with a KNC miner do me a favour and ssh into your Miner and post the results for TOP.

So ssh into miner type top (Ctrl +  to exit) and post your results. Troubleshooting mine at the moment so need to compare.

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October 17, 2013, 01:48:10 AM
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Unfortunately, you are wrong.  That is what it boils down to.  You misinterpreted what was clearly written and are now trying to bash the pool to cover you're own lack of understanding.  

Heck, the 105% PPS for NMC is only written in something like two places to begin with, and both are clear that this is NOT for BTC. (Forum, Eligius stats).  Nor anywhere does Eligius promise 105% earnings over other pools or do we compare to anything at all.

I don't even know why I'm continuing to respond other than to prevent misinformation from your misunderstanding of mining harm Eligius's image in some way.

Eligius pays up to 100% PPS for BTC using the CPPSRB reward system, and exactly 105% PPS for NMC using straight PPS payments.

-wk

Thank you for replying though, for me it brings a very positive image of Eligius.
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October 17, 2013, 01:51:17 AM
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The Saturn just survived it's first power outage...was only 3 seconds(A storm here), but that's dangerous in itself...the miner auto-rebooted, auto-connected & started re-hashing just fine... Smiley


You were trying to configure wireless via bridge.  You succeeded I hope.  I want to do something similar but not just protect my miners, I think I'll have [cable docsis modem] --> Linksys (Cisco) E900 wirelessly transmitting --> an access point or bridge of some kind immediately next to it --> another Linksys (Cisco) E900 which will feed my network, miners, tablets and computers.  The separation of hardwire cable in between the docsis -> first E900 and the AP or bridge will protect against a high voltage in via the cable.  Won't protect my TV tho.
What worked, was using the laptop's wireless connection to access the hotspot as a server, enabling DHCP, assigning it an address, then running an ethernet cord to a regular ethernet switch, where my desktops & miners are all connected using I.P.'s all assigned within the same range, using the laptop's connection as the gateway. This also allowed me to move the laptop right next to the android, in the kitchen, when the ethernet switch is here in the livingroom, works excellent
*anyone who tries this should know to do all I.P. sniffing from the server(Laptop)


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October 17, 2013, 01:58:57 AM
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The Saturn just survived it's first power outage...was only 3 seconds(A storm here), but that's dangerous in itself...the miner auto-rebooted, auto-connected & started re-hashing just fine... Smiley


You were trying to configure wireless via bridge.  You succeeded I hope.  I want to do something similar but not just protect my miners, I think I'll have [cable docsis modem] --> Linksys (Cisco) E900 wirelessly transmitting --> an access point or bridge of some kind immediately next to it --> another Linksys (Cisco) E900 which will feed my network, miners, tablets and computers.  The separation of hardwire cable in between the docsis -> first E900 and the AP or bridge will protect against a high voltage in via the cable.  Won't protect my TV tho.
What worked, was using the laptop's wireless connection to access the hotspot as a server, enabling DHCP, assigning it an address, then running an ethernet cord to a regular ethernet switch, where my desktops & miners are all connected using I.P.'s all assigned within the same range, using the laptop's connection as the gateway. This also allowed me to move the laptop right next to the android, in the kitchen, when the ethernet switch is here in the livingroom, works excellent
Phoenix, that was very well articulated.  Nice job.
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October 17, 2013, 02:00:37 AM
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Thx, it was actually hard to figure out being so simple...lolz


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October 17, 2013, 02:01:16 AM
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I have two orders "In Progress". I swear it's like foreplay without the sex.

On a serious note, is everyone taking notice that Gox is hovering around $155 and Coinbase is at $143? Let's hope this is a trend that could help to ease the Everest-esque difficulty increases. Are people hoarding? What are the transaction numbers looking like? I don't know how to figure that stuff out. Are more serious traders coming to the market because of the SilkRoad news being plastered everywhere?
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I wonder if someone like Luke can just bypass the beagleboard/controller and talk directly to the asic modules from a faster machine.  Seems the Saturns do better than the Jupiters.
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Thx, it was actually hard to figure out being so simple...lolz
Always is.
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I wonder if someone like Luke can just bypass the beagleboard/controller and talk directly to the asic modules from a faster machine.  Seems the Saturns do better than the Jupiters.

They aren't selling extra control units at this time but didn't completely rule it out

Wait till someone runs .93 on a properly cooled mercury...  Ive been able to run one board around ~158 for a decent amount of time

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I wonder if someone like Luke can just bypass the beagleboard/controller and talk directly to the asic modules from a faster machine.  Seems the Saturns do better than the Jupiters.

They aren't selling extra control units at this time but didn't completely rule it out

Wait till someone runs .93 on a properly cooled mercury...  Ive been able to run one board around ~158 for a decent amount of time
tried on my saturn...no difference except more errors
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October 17, 2013, 03:12:21 AM
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The Saturn just survived it's first power outage...was only 3 seconds(A storm here), but that's dangerous in itself...the miner auto-rebooted, auto-connected & started re-hashing just fine... Smiley


You were trying to configure wireless via bridge.  You succeeded I hope.  I want to do something similar but not just protect my miners, I think I'll have [cable docsis modem] --> Linksys (Cisco) E900 wirelessly transmitting --> an access point or bridge of some kind immediately next to it --> another Linksys (Cisco) E900 which will feed my network, miners, tablets and computers.  The separation of hardwire cable in between the docsis -> first E900 and the AP or bridge will protect against a high voltage in via the cable.  Won't protect my TV tho.
What worked, was using the laptop's wireless connection to access the hotspot as a server, enabling DHCP, assigning it an address, then running an ethernet cord to a regular ethernet switch, where my desktops & miners are all connected using I.P.'s all assigned within the same range, using the laptop's connection as the gateway. This also allowed me to move the laptop right next to the android, in the kitchen, when the ethernet switch is here in the livingroom, works excellent
*anyone who tries this should know to do all I.P. sniffing from the server(Laptop)

Sounds great.  Are the devices on the ethernet swtich on the same network as the laptop's wireless?

Or different networks and the laptop routing data from the one network to the other?  And if this latter, does it take any software not typically found on WinXP?
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Thanks for the video. Somehow I ended up watching the first episode of DS9 because of your two posts. Now, I'm hooked on DS9, a series I never got into prior.
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The Saturn just survived it's first power outage...was only 3 seconds(A storm here), but that's dangerous in itself...the miner auto-rebooted, auto-connected & started re-hashing just fine... Smiley


You were trying to configure wireless via bridge.  You succeeded I hope.  I want to do something similar but not just protect my miners, I think I'll have [cable docsis modem] --> Linksys (Cisco) E900 wirelessly transmitting --> an access point or bridge of some kind immediately next to it --> another Linksys (Cisco) E900 which will feed my network, miners, tablets and computers.  The separation of hardwire cable in between the docsis -> first E900 and the AP or bridge will protect against a high voltage in via the cable.  Won't protect my TV tho.
What worked, was using the laptop's wireless connection to access the hotspot as a server, enabling DHCP, assigning it an address, then running an ethernet cord to a regular ethernet switch, where my desktops & miners are all connected using I.P.'s all assigned within the same range, using the laptop's connection as the gateway. This also allowed me to move the laptop right next to the android, in the kitchen, when the ethernet switch is here in the livingroom, works excellent
*anyone who tries this should know to do all I.P. sniffing from the server(Laptop)

Sounds great.  Are the devices on the ethernet swtich on the same network as the laptop's wireless?

Or different networks and the laptop routing data from the one network to the other?  And if this latter, does it take any software not typically found on WinXP?
no software, all my computers are running windows 8, and it was done using the normal network & sharing center access window under "Change adapter settings" and simply change the IPV4 settings(on clients) to an IP within your servers range... meaning if your server's address is 123.231.213.1. yor clients addresses can be anywhere from 123.231.213.2 to 123.231.213.255, except 123.231.213.1. Doing this allows any computer with any access to the web to become a server to as many as 254 ethernet devices in that network... PS3's, XBOX, computers, miners, etc.
Server = DHCP on (but manually assign address anyway)
This way allows you to quickly scan a range with the IP scanner, and access the gui to change the address to what you want within that range
Clients = DHCP OFF (manually assign address)
Miners = DHCP OFF (they are clients) also manual
XBOX & PS3 are fully automatic in connecting.

Assigning an IP to your miner isnt a requirement, but doing so allows you to bookmark the miner's IP, so whenever you experience a network failure, or power outage, it will always return to that address, so you never have to use the IP scanner again, and can save your putty session, so you dont have to type in the IP address every time you re-boot for any reason. The miner will have DHCP on by default in the GUI. You just uncheck the box, assign the ip to the miner, plug in your servers ip address as the gateway & DNS server, and the subnet mask, hit save & wahlah, you are set to return to that IP if/when anything happens. it's not necessary to reboot for this to be programmed into the GUI; just "apply"

admittidly..."I'm no genius", it took 3 different outside specialists, and a good night's sleep to figure that out.... I got the miner at about 2pm that day, and spent about 18 hours on it, and finally went to bed angry at the world... but when I woke up in the morning, had a cup of coffee & cranked everything back up, it took me about ten minutes to find out I had more problems than just the IP address, because the miner was not connecting at all due to a bad username on the pool. So, after a few attempts, the IP would just go dead because cgminer would make a few attempts, and quit running, but still have the app running a dead instance of cgminer....and sniffing becomes almost impossible. I was only able to catch that by scanning at just the right moment to catch a live IP on the scan tool... (while the ethernet lights were still flashing) in that state, I was able to start a second instance of cgminer in a second putty window(and mine with it manually inputting my info), but I was also then able to access the GUI and change it, as well as set the network access page to my liking, which fixed everything. (after, of course screwing it up more by attempting to save the settings from cgminer without knowing they dont use the root address)
It was a saga to say the least...but now I'm ready for the other two to come TOMORROW YAhoooooo


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October 17, 2013, 04:28:10 AM
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Out of curiosity, what companies besides KnC offer refunds?
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The Saturn just survived it's first power outage...was only 3 seconds(A storm here), but that's dangerous in itself...the miner auto-rebooted, auto-connected & started re-hashing just fine... Smiley


You were trying to configure wireless via bridge.  You succeeded I hope.  I want to do something similar but not just protect my miners, I think I'll have [cable docsis modem] --> Linksys (Cisco) E900 wirelessly transmitting --> an access point or bridge of some kind immediately next to it --> another Linksys (Cisco) E900 which will feed my network, miners, tablets and computers.  The separation of hardwire cable in between the docsis -> first E900 and the AP or bridge will protect against a high voltage in via the cable.  Won't protect my TV tho.
What worked, was using the laptop's wireless connection to access the hotspot as a server, enabling DHCP, assigning it an address, then running an ethernet cord to a regular ethernet switch, where my desktops & miners are all connected using I.P.'s all assigned within the same range, using the laptop's connection as the gateway. This also allowed me to move the laptop right next to the android, in the kitchen, when the ethernet switch is here in the livingroom, works excellent
*anyone who tries this should know to do all I.P. sniffing from the server(Laptop)

Sounds great.  Are the devices on the ethernet swtich on the same network as the laptop's wireless?

Or different networks and the laptop routing data from the one network to the other?  And if this latter, does it take any software not typically found on WinXP?
no software, all my computers are running windows 8, and it was done using the normal network & sharing center access window under "Change adapter settings" and simply change the IPV4 settings(on clients) to an IP within your servers range... meaning if your server's address is 123.231.213.1. yor clients addresses can be anywhere from 123.231.213.2 to 123.231.213.255, except 123.231.213.1. Doing this allows any computer with any access to the web to become a server to as many as 254 ethernet devices in that network... PS3's, XBOX, computers, miners, etc.
Server = DHCP on (but manually assign address anyway)
This way allows you to quickly scan a range with the IP scanner, and access the gui to change the address to what you want within that range
Clients = DHCP OFF (manually assign address)
Miners = DHCP OFF (they are clients) also manual
XBOX & PS3 are fully automatic in connecting.

Assigning an IP to your miner isnt a requirement, but doing so allows you to bookmark the miner's IP, so whenever you experience a network failure, or power outage, it will always return to that address, so you never have to use the IP scanner again, and can save your putty session, so you dont have to type in the IP address every time you re-boot for any reason. The miner will have DHCP on by default in the GUI. You just uncheck the box, assign the ip to the miner, plug in your servers ip address as the gateway & DNS server, and the subnet mask, hit save & wahlah, you are set to return to that IP if/when anything happens. it's not necessary to reboot for this to be programmed into the GUI; just "apply"

admittidly..."I'm no genius", it took 3 different outside specialists, and a good night's sleep to figure that out.... I got the miner at about 2pm that day, and spent about 18 hours on it, and finally went to bed angry at the world... but when I woke up in the morning, had a cup of coffee & cranked everything back up, it took me about ten minutes to find out I had more problems than just the IP address, because the miner was not connecting at all due to a bad username on the pool. So, after a few attempts, the IP would just go dead because cgminer would make a few attempts, and quit running, but still have the app running a dead instance of cgminer....and sniffing becomes almost impossible. I was only able to catch that by scanning at just the right moment to catch a live IP on the scan tool... (while the ethernet lights were still flashing) in that state, I was able to start a second instance of cgminer in a second putty window(and mine with it manually inputting my info), but I was also then able to access the GUI and change it, as well as set the network access page to my liking, which fixed everything. (after, of course screwing it up more by attempting to save the settings from cgminer without knowing they dont use the root address)

nothing beats hands on experience!

well done & please be prepared for the next wave of recipients calling on you for support
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Last edit: October 17, 2013, 05:35:49 AM by Searing
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At this point it's become as much about the principle. In my view, the early shipments got early shipments, the latter orders have been offered refunds, and those of us in the middle are getting screwed. My latest message to customer service, after Emilia told me they could not offer compensation, when I wasn't even asking for compensation:

"I'm not asking for compensation. I'm asking for a refund, like those who ordered after me are being offered. I will pay for return shipping. We were told that refunds would be offered up until the point of our orders shipping, but two weeks before mine shipped, we were told there were no more refunds. Then my order is suddenly marked as "shipped" two weeks later (even though I still have no tracking number), refunds are resumed, but I'm told I'm not eligible because my order has already supposedly shipped. Does this sound fair to you? I'm not asking for compensation. I'm just asking for the opportunity to get the refund that was part of the terms of my order. Refunds up to the point of shipping were part of the terms offered by KnC. I will even pay for the return shipping. Please, in the name of fairness, consider this."

This blows.

Do you really want a refund on your order ?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bitcoin-Miner-KNC-Jupiter-576-GH-s-IN-HAND-not-preorder-/190933709851?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c7489341b

*you can sell it with profit

he has 1 bid at 9k hope it works out but with paypal someone could mine with it for 45 days and do a cc reverse charges and send the thing back..and he'd be out the cash with a 45day miner.(its been done at least what I've heard in forums on other mnfg units) er I should say he'd get the cash back..but out the miners use for 45 days if he got played....
prob it will work out

i'm still waiting on my Saturn order it says processing but was told in email they will see if they can pull it....so processing is up to the 520x number now FYI

whatever ..it it comes I mine with it...but if I can get a refund it seems prudent with the next nov 15th bash going out the door around the time I get the above unit would e nov 1st anyway...just seems silly if KNC has another dump of stuff the month of November .....its starting to look like people are dropping anvils off the doc on to the rowboats to see how fast it sinks....anyway so it goes

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October 17, 2013, 05:10:48 AM
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I wonder if someone like Luke can just bypass the beagleboard/controller and talk directly to the asic modules from a faster machine.  Seems the Saturns do better than the Jupiters.

They aren't selling extra control units at this time but didn't completely rule it out

Wait till someone runs .93 on a properly cooled mercury...  Ive been able to run one board around ~158 for a decent amount of time
tried on my saturn...no difference except more errors
43 & 45 C

you can drop it another 5-7C each if you sit the heatsink fans on the crossbar and just slightly wedge the top into the 4th opening of the fins.. but surely KNC knows how to cool their miners best.. what I know..

here's my .95 miner that I awoken not one but two VRMs from the grave  (all 4 VRM boards)

ASIC slot #3: 39.5 ℃
ASIC slot #4: 36.0 ℃
ASIC slot #5: 34.5 ℃
ASIC slot #6: 39.0 ℃

BTCGuild  511.27 GH/s 871936 (99.94%)




and the other still running .93   (one 8VRM board, other three with 4VRMs)

Temperature sensor: 44.0 C
Temperature sensor: 47.0 C
Temperature sensor: 36.5 C   (the lucky board with 8VRMs... no difference at all right KNC?)
Temperature sensor: 45.5 C

BTCGuild  535.71 GH/s 5941376 (99.91%)
 




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October 17, 2013, 05:15:14 AM
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I have two orders "In Progress". I swear it's like foreplay without the sex.

On a serious note, is everyone taking notice that Gox is hovering around $155 and Coinbase is at $143? Let's hope this is a trend that could help to ease the Everest-esque difficulty increases. Are people hoarding? What are the transaction numbers looking like? I don't know how to figure that stuff out. Are more serious traders coming to the market because of the SilkRoad news being plastered everywhere?


well supposedly this is how btc is supposed to work...keeps creeping up...if it does not due to all the new coin being made by miners etc.....then there will come a point (imho) where everyone will look at it and cash out to get ROI or whatever ...example  this http://www.damninteresting.com/the-dutch-tulip-bubble-of-1637/ The tulip bubble of 1637....now not saying that is what is going on with BTC ...but from a speculator of mining equipment the above scenario makes me nervous....) imho there will be a 'crash' the catch is will btc and/or mining bounce back as it has before....not imho if asic makers keep playing us this close to the freeway on the PH increases and/or timing at the last moment...but then again I know zip I ordered from BFL Smiley


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