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October 15, 2013, 11:36:48 AM
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Order 32x. Hosted customer and no news except 2 transactions totaling 0.7217931 that is from a newly minted block.

Did you email them for information/login details? I had to and they sent it to me not too long after.

Seems like they've setup most of the hosted miners and haven't completely sent all the details out to everyone yet.
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October 15, 2013, 11:38:34 AM
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Order 32x. Hosted customer and no news except 2 transactions totaling 0.7217931 that is from a newly minted block.

Did you email them for information/login details? I had to and they sent it to me not too long after.

Seems like they've setup most of the hosted miners and haven't completely sent all the details out to everyone yet.

LOL. You mean they will send out the information not earlier as you asked explicit for it?
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October 15, 2013, 11:38:45 AM
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Yep. A week ago. Eligius was on about 100TH/s. Currently it's close to 200TH/s.

I've seen it go up and up each day slowly. Plenty of knc machines on the stats page. If you're not sure if they're knc's or not.

Check the mining date. It's all in October.

He-he, don't forget BitMinter. It is now on par or stronger than 50BTC (110THs) and was only a little over 30THs a month or so ago. Smiley

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October 15, 2013, 11:42:44 AM
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Once you send a customer order file to an automated production line, it's hard to alter queue positioning without causing a headache upstream at the point of assembly and delivery. The idea is this meant to be as efficient and streamlined as possible.

This is bullshit. Pure bullshit. People could not get refunds since end of September.

If I cancelled my order on 1st October, KNC will have had 14+ days to remove my order from the order queue. You trying to say they couldn't? Hahahahaha! That's a joke.

Orders only exists on paper. It's easy to pull them, especially if you have 14+ days to do it.

The only cost might be UPS were already paid and you'd lose $120 on throwing that label in the dustbin.

I'd be quite happy if KNC retained that $120 out of my order and refunded the rest.

it's hard to alter queue positioning without causing a headache upstream at the point of assembly and delivery
I'm going laugh all day about this.

Once production started, day1 refunds should have been frozen, not everyone's. Then when it was time for day2, day2 orders should have been frozen out from refunds.

Everyone in order numbers 3000 upwards that are in paid status could easily be refunded.

Don't lie to me. A "headache" doesn't mean it's not possible. It just means a shuffling of paperwork.

It still stands that KNC are rodents for pulling all refunds.


Now please address the issue of Sam lying in a recorded interview "We're selling to the general public" to generate sales and how that makes you feel to be joining such a company?

You keep avoiding this important fact and I think it's entirely necessary you address it.

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October 15, 2013, 11:43:30 AM
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The art of not answering questions - a short handbook by Josh.

  • Find a troll in the thread. Take personal offence at everything they say. Answer their accusations with counter accusations.
  • Repeat information that people already know again and again.
  • Skip the difficult questions that customers are desperate for.
  • Depend on customers who have already received their orders to stick up for the company.

All I, as a customer, want to know is whether I'm going to receive my mid-August order before the end of October, before two difficulty increases have occurred. I'm pleased Bargraphics has 11 units hashing and had enough money in June to jump on the gravy train. Good for him. It doesn't help me with calculating how much money I'm likely to lose.  

"How are you justifying these as fair use?  They are clearly and unequivocally a copyright violation."
"I really want to know how you justify that under the fair use doctrine?  It does not conform to a single point of fair use."
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October 15, 2013, 11:45:48 AM
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LOL. You mean they will send out the information not earlier as you asked explicit for it?

Most hosted miners already got their details. I will assume not everyone got it automatically as I didn't. They did had some issues setting up hosting at the start so maybe that had something to do with it. I emailed them after I read the news article saying hosting will up and running and details will be sent out to everyone (as I did not get the details). Don't get lost in the cracks. Email them. You really got nothing to lose by doing so.

Order 32x. Hosted customer (on bitminter) and no news except 2 transactions totaling 0.7217931 that is from a newly minted block that is NOT from bitminter.

Totally fantastic.

I'm assuming your miner is already up and running but you haven't got the login details yet. By default, it's stuck on the knc pool which gives you something like that. Crap pay out Tongue
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October 15, 2013, 11:50:58 AM
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The art of not answering questions - a short handbook by Josh.

  • Find a troll in the thread. Take personal offence at everything they say. Answer their accusations with counter accusations.
  • Repeat information that people already know again and again.
  • Skip the difficult questions that customers are desperate for.
  • Depend on customers who have already received their orders to stick up for the company.

All I, as a customer, want to know is whether I'm going to receive my mid-August order before the end of October, before two difficulty increases have occurred. I'm pleased Bargraphics has 11 units hashing and had enough money in June to jump on the gravy train. Good for him. It doesn't help me with calculating how much money I'm likely to lose.  

I will completely cease to post if everyone else will bombard orama and KNC with the questions I keep asking. Some people are. But I'm the only one who takes the effort to dispel some of the bs orama comes out with (see above). If other people will take on the role, I'm happy to not say another word and let everyone else apply the pressure to orama/kfc to treat their customers better/fairly.

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October 15, 2013, 11:56:15 AM
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Can I still not use my hx850 or did knc fix that?
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October 15, 2013, 12:07:49 PM
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If anyone is looking for more KnC hashpower, I have a Mercury that I'm considering selling.

Order status: in progress
Order number: 333X

Ships to: UK

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=310961.0
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October 15, 2013, 12:11:05 PM
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Day 2, ordered 4th, payment received 5th, #88x . Hosting.
Started hashing a few hours ago!! :-)) Phew! :-)
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October 15, 2013, 12:15:23 PM
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Bargraphics, don't you have about 10 miners that you need to tend to, (or prior posts to delete) instead of telling all of us who don't to chill out?
Bitcoinorama, the truth has a certain scent to it, as does bullshit.  Avenger is not the one with the stink. You're not helping anything or anyone.

If anyone needs to STFU it's those who think we should just bend over and take it.
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October 15, 2013, 12:17:28 PM
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THE AVENGER, BITCOINORAMA......


BAM, at 2 am this morning pacific time....finally....email received for order number 230x SATURN PAID JUNE 18TH (AT LEAST WIRED THAT DAY, YEAH I KNOW WIRED...GEEZ I'M NUTS)

HAS NOW RECEIVED UPS TRACKING NO.....AND SET FOR DELIVERY OCTOBER 17, 2013.
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October 15, 2013, 12:53:53 PM
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Wow just when I was starting to give up hope I wake up this morning to see 0.01 btc mined on my eligulus account.
Still says in progress. 239x paid the 19th of June.

Yeah, the order management system isn't the greatest.

- Order 34x - In progress - hashing at my residence
- Order 34x - Paid - hashing at KNC data center (technically this was moved to order 842x to credit back unused shipping)
- Order 97x - Shipped - hashing at my residence

It's a Swedish thing.  Grin

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October 15, 2013, 12:58:10 PM
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THE AVENGER, BITCOINORAMA......


BAM, at 2 am this morning pacific time....finally....email received for order number 230x SATURN PAID JUNE 18TH (AT LEAST WIRED THAT DAY, YEAH I KNOW WIRED...GEEZ I'M NUTS)

HAS NOW RECEIVED UPS TRACKING NO.....AND SET FOR DELIVERY OCTOBER 17, 2013.
Good for you sbfree, I'm glad your order is on it's way.

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October 15, 2013, 01:00:31 PM
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Bargraphics, don't you have about 10 miners that you need to tend to, (or prior posts to delete) instead of telling all of us who don't to chill out?
Bitcoinorama, the truth has a certain scent to it, as does bullshit.  Avenger is not the one with the stink. You're not helping anything or anyone.

If anyone needs to STFU it's those who think we should just bend over and take it.


11 Miners and no, they are happily hashing away in the KnC Datacenter. (over 111 coins so far as a very happy Day 1 Customer)

T-Minus 5 minutes until this post self destructs.
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October 15, 2013, 01:05:19 PM
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Bitcoinorama, here are a few difficult questions. This is not trolling, just wondering what your personal views are as someone with access to the KNC order book and an interest in the ethics of businesses involved in the mining business.

What is the status of the substantial Cloudhashing order:

All

As communicated to all customers. The delays are down to us awaiting delivery of a large number of mining equipment purchased on behalf of our customers.

We greatly regret the delays but bear with us as we are daily increasing our hashing power and should have you at 100 percent capacity very soon.

These delays affect everyone in the mining business.

Thanks

Emmanuel

Which you have called out as an unethical business:

Actually ignore everything I've just said about talent, it gets worse - as we know Emmanuel Adedeji is behind Cloud Hashing, and on the 'Cloud Hashing' Facebook page, there he is fraudulently posing as a customer asking questions, he then answers to himself as Cloud Hashing;



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@cloudhashing I really appreciate what you guys are doing at cloudhashing. I will like to buy in the July contracts. But will like to know, at the current difficulty level, how much will I get weekly if I buy 10Gh/s?
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Disgraceful business ethics!!

...and they've clearly bought the Facebook likes...

Second question. Someone in this thread disassembled the KNC firmware (can't find the quote) and found a 6 module option. Is this form factor in construction at the factory? If so, are the orders for that option being processed in queue order? You said previously that 700 units had been built and 1000 remained to be shipped. Does that 1700 units include all orders, or are there non-public, off order book units being built simultaneously?

One thing which really swings in Hashfast's favour is their publically available order book:

https://hashfast.com/order-chain/

It would be great if you could shine some light on what is actually being built by KNC. That was your original purpose for visiting Sweden? This isn't trolling. These are valid questions.

 


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October 15, 2013, 01:40:44 PM
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Lol, we should have paid attention to the signs, Wink







How can you compare KnC with Avalon or even BFL?HuhHuhHuhHuh?? Seriously HuhHuh?


No need they did it for me, lol

Like the old saying goes a picture says a thousand words Smiley

I blame it on Snowden.  He sensitized the establishment such that now it overreacts.  Let's say a govt agency known for snooping asks _that_ miner manufacturing company (won't be named) to let the agency copy all emails and orders from customers because of a potential terrorist threat, the use of BTC to finance terrorism.  They agree and feel now they can rest assured they'll be smiled upon in any lawsuit because behind the scenes it will be known they help the good guys.  Not good as their ethics are questionable.  They see competition (KnC) is going to kicktheirass.  Meeting at a European Bitcoin Conference, a spokesman for _that_ miner manufacturing company, gets the ear of KnC reps and hints what they're doing.  Since Sweden works agreeably with that US agency on many matters, KnC takes it as a hint they should follow suit to assist the good guys.  But, delays have nothing to do with helping the good guys.  Delays are the stock in trade of _that_ questionable US miner manufacturing company and leads KnC people astray.  The motive is greed and to cause an impediment to KnC success.



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October 15, 2013, 01:42:26 PM
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just wondering what your personal views are as someone with access to the KNC order book and an interest in the ethics of businesses involved in the mining business.

Not trying to take anything away from your questions - which I too would like to hear the answers to - but I think bitcoinorama explicitly said that he does not have access to the KnC order book unfortunately...

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October 15, 2013, 01:44:11 PM
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Lol, we should have paid attention to the signs, Wink







How can you compare KnC with Avalon or even BFL?HuhHuhHuhHuh?? Seriously HuhHuh?


No need they did it for me, lol

Like the old saying goes a picture says a thousand words Smiley

I blame it on Snowden.  He sensitized the establishment such that now it overreacts.  Let's say a govt agency known for snooping asks _that_ miner manufacturing company (won't be named) to let the agency copy all emails and orders from customers because of a potential terrorist threat, the use of BTC to finance terrorism.  They agree and feel now they can rest assured they'll be smiled upon in any lawsuit because behind the scenes it will be known they help the good guys.  Not good as their ethics are questionable.  They see competition (KnC) is going to kicktheirass.  Meeting at a European Bitcoin Conference, a spokesman for _that_ miner manufacturing company, gets the ear of KnC reps and hints what they're doing.  Since Sweden works agreeably with that US agency on many matters, KnC takes it as a hint they should follow suit to assist the good guys.  But, delays have nothing to do with helping the good guys.  Delays are the stock in trade of _that_ questionable US miner manufacturing company and leads KnC people astray.  The motive is greed and to cause an impediment to KnC success.

There's a brown to the lower dirt there.  From NY, the dirt on LI, except at the shore or out east, was a deep rich dark soil loaded with earthworms.  Early in this planet's history there was a collision with another, smaller, planet and the moon was formed.  I'm convinced the dirt down here in the south is from that alien planet.  It's red as Mars, lies dense as red brick, and has a thin layer of top soil completely unlike anything on LI.  This has to be alien what I'm living on.  What's up north is the real earth.

Sounds like SR closure didnt prevent you from scoring...
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October 15, 2013, 01:46:20 PM
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Email reply from KNC this morning UK time 10:00am.

Hi,

Your order is in the current production queue and should have been completed this morning. We are still waiting for the latest update from the factory. But as far as I can see on the system it has been made and it will be leaving the factory with DHL at 17:00 Swedish time today

Should you have any further questions please do not hesitate to contact us.

Thanks

Emilia


My Order #2389   paid  19th June , 1 x Jupiter.

peace ;-)

DHL ?

this + security check at customs .... something is going on here.

US gov spending shutdown will have international ripple effect as payoffs fail to be made.



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