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October 14, 2013, 05:42:46 PM
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A bit of a Stupid Question.

Can anyone remember if the T&C's were displayed when completing an order. I have added to my cart (as a test) and got to proceed with payment and no terms and conditions are displayed.

Was there a (tick I agree box) after payment or when you click on payment type then continue.

Also did anyone get a copy of the T&C's attached with their completed order email.
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October 14, 2013, 05:44:38 PM
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Well, so much for customer service. I just got an answer from Sam regarding compensation and he basically told me to screw myself.

basically...?

post the reply
Here you go:

First I’m sorry you feel the need to send such messages.
 
Secondly I will add that you will not receive any compensation for what you consider late delivery. Under the terms of sale you  agreed to. It’s clearly stated that delivery dates are for information only and are non-binding. We are still going to deliver your miners as fast as we can but we are not going to give compensation for any loses you think you have incurred.  
I may also draw your attention to the fact that you have agreed to a business to business purchase not a business to consumer purchase.


And I hope you drew to Sam's attention the interview he did for Bitcoin Insider - MONTHS after the KNC T&C's were written:
https://soundcloud.com/mindtomatter/e45-perspective-counts-lets

Where he said, and I quote:

"We're selling to the general public"
"We are selling fully functional devices, that anyone can come and buy"


I mean, I wouldn't necessarily call him a liar to his face, but if the cap fits and he wants to play dirty...

I'm beginning to believe that Sam and his henchmen will says anything to make sales and believe they can get away with it. We'll see

To be fair they are the only company that is allowing refunds right now.  And you can chargeback your credit card for October if you wish.

I think people should be getting btc directly...the price is about ready to explode again.  You can get more coins at these lower prices than mining for them.
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October 14, 2013, 05:57:50 PM
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The price had better explode.  Those of us with Jupiters need to climb out of a $7000 hole.
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October 14, 2013, 06:03:17 PM
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The price had better explode.  Those of us with Jupiters need to climb out of a $7000 hole.

Ah dont panic. If it doesnt work out with KnC, just try with hashfast. Get some "miner protection" while you're at it, and order some cointerra's just to be sure. You know the saying; if you're in a hole, dig deeper



ex-miners and bitcoin holders like myself thank you for your sacrifice in making our network more secure!
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October 14, 2013, 06:07:29 PM
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Already at 800th page, expect firmware 0.96 to do black magic and take hash rate to 800+ haha
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October 14, 2013, 06:11:39 PM
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Already at 800th page, expect firmware 0.96 to do black magic and take hash rate to 800+ haha

Will donate 1BTC to charity if that happens!

iCEBREAKER is a troll! He and cypherdoc helped HashFast scam 50 Million $ from its customers !
H/w Hosting Directory & Reputation - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=622998.0
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October 14, 2013, 06:13:39 PM
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In case you wonder how to change the time on your miners, there's a magic env-var called 'TZ'

connect onto your miner through ssh
Code:
echo $TZ
date
then set it for example to GMT
Code:
TZ=GMT
echo $TZ
date

further details:
http://lists.uclibc.org/pipermail/uclibc/2002-August/004010.html
http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/TZ-Variable.html

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October 14, 2013, 06:15:00 PM
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The price had better explode.  Those of us with Jupiters need to climb out of a $7000 hole.

Ah dont panic. If it doesnt work out with KnC, just try with hashfast. Get some "miner protection" while you're at it, and order some cointerra's just to be sure. You know the saying; if you're in a hole, dig deeper



ex-miners and bitcoin holders like myself thank you for your sacrifice in making our network more secure!

There's a brown to the lower dirt there.  From NY, the dirt on LI, except at the shore or out east, was a deep rich dark soil loaded with earthworms.  Early in this planet's history there was a collision with another, smaller, planet and the moon was formed.  I'm convinced the dirt down here in the south is from that alien planet.  It's red as Mars, lies dense as red brick, and has a thin layer of top soil completely unlike anything on LI.  This has to be alien what I'm living on.  What's up north is the real earth.



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October 14, 2013, 06:16:17 PM
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Already at 800th page, expect firmware 0.96 to do black magic and take hash rate to 800+ haha

Will donate 1BTC to charity if that happens!

Donate to ckolivas instead to write a better cgminer driver for knc product and replace the blotchy, buggy and blasphemous shit sam and co call as firmware
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October 14, 2013, 06:16:27 PM
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The price had better explode.  Those of us with Jupiters need to climb out of a $7000 hole.

Ah dont panic. If it doesnt work out with KnC, just try with hashfast. Get some "miner protection" while you're at it, and order some cointerra's just to be sure. You know the saying; if you're in a hole, dig deeper



ex-miners and bitcoin holders like myself thank you for your sacrifice in making our network more secure!

I'm sure you're happy you got yours.  How nice for you.
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October 14, 2013, 06:17:42 PM
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There's a brown to the lower dirt there.  From NY, the dirt on LI, except at the shore or out east, was a deep rich dark soil loaded with earthworms.  Early in this planet's history there was a collision with another, smaller, planet and the moon was formed.  I'm convinced the dirt down here in the south is from that alien planet.  It's red as Mars, lies dense as red brick, and has a thin layer of top soil completely unlike anything on LI.  This has to be alien what I'm living on.  What's up north is the real earth.

Sounds like SR closure didnt prevent you from scoring...
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October 14, 2013, 06:18:56 PM
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There's a brown to the lower dirt there.  From NY, the dirt on LI, except at the shore or out east, was a deep rich dark soil loaded with earthworms.  Early in this planet's history there was a collision with another, smaller, planet and the moon was formed.  I'm convinced the dirt down here in the south is from that alien planet.  It's red as Mars, lies dense as red brick, and has a thin layer of top soil completely unlike anything on LI.  This has to be alien what I'm living on.  What's up north is the real earth.

Sounds like SR closure didnt prevent you from scoring...

LOL "Ultisols"
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October 14, 2013, 06:21:41 PM
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The price had better explode.  Those of us with Jupiters need to climb out of a $7000 hole.

Ah dont panic. If it doesnt work out with KnC, just try with hashfast. Get some "miner protection" while you're at it, and order some cointerra's just to be sure. You know the saying; if you're in a hole, dig deeper



ex-miners and bitcoin holders like myself thank you for your sacrifice in making our network more secure!

calculate always with a future price of $1000/BTC and your pain in the ass is gone. realy no joke. it works for me!  Grin
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October 14, 2013, 06:21:43 PM
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A bit of a Stupid Question.

Can anyone remember if the T&C's were displayed when completing an order. I have added to my cart (as a test) and got to proceed with payment and no terms and conditions are displayed.

Was there a (tick I agree box) after payment or when you click on payment type then continue.

Also did anyone get a copy of the T&C's attached with their completed order email.
On the bottom of the last page (Review and Place Order) there is a check box:
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I have read and agree to the terms and conditions. Click here

That 'Click here' links to T&C.
There was no attached T&C in my order email.
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October 14, 2013, 06:24:37 PM
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Orama,
There is nothing that you or I can say that will change the truth.  It is what it is.  The truth is that this thread is the primary conduit for the expression and resolution of issues in the KNC community.  While OrSoc's contribution to this endeavor has been an extreme success, KNC's contributions have been almost exclusively failiures.

Some of these are:
Sam's misguided estimation that 100% of us can't find our asses with both hands.  He imagines a market for those who want a turnkey, idiot proof mining machine no matter how long it takes.  Very few of us fit that profile.
Total ignorance of repeated requests to 'just ship the boards'.  We'll join in and help make them work.  (That pesky open source thing).

Then, there are the one's he might admit:
Shipping assembled top-heavy fans despite strong warnings.
Light crushed boxes save the machine theory.
Underpromise means maintain radio silence.
Over deliver means whatever you want it to mean, subject to change at will.
The only real value that he has to sell is the asics and controller boards.  He would have nothing but elated customers if he would just sell and support them.  Forget the cases, assembly, hosting, especially the pool.  These have all created nothing but ill will.
Most of all, he doesn't realize that the people in this forum are the source of his millions.  We put him in that spot and we can take him out.

My 2 cents

While I know this isn't the standard case, I did in fact receive my Jup on 10/4 and it has been running flawlessly ever since.  Right now, it is hashing at 540gh/s on average on bitminter.  Thats far over what I originally 'reserved' back in April...  Something like 2x the speed.  I would not hesitate to order from this company again in the future.  Mining is a zero sum game, any additional unit that is shipped results in me losing bitcoins.  Why do you think people aren't lining up to sing praise for the organization?

Well that's good for you, really I'm happy for you.

How would you feel if your rig was delivered in Nov at the same time as the people who ordered expecting Nov delivery at a huge discount?
That's already too close for comfort and more likely than not for me.

Why did KnC reduce the price for Nov delivery? Well that's the reason I and all customers promised delivery by tomorrow but not likely to get anything this week or even this month are fucking annoyed. Also the reason for their silence, because like a 5yr old fearing scolding when he's done wrong they have fuck all to say to defend their trainwreck. (Except a little futile goalpost moving).
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October 14, 2013, 06:27:12 PM
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To be fair they are the only company that is allowing refunds right now.  


They are not. If someone got one, please do point me to them.

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October 14, 2013, 06:27:27 PM
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The price had better explode.  Those of us with Jupiters need to climb out of a $7000 hole.

Ah dont panic. If it doesnt work out with KnC, just try with hashfast. Get some "miner protection" while you're at it, and order some cointerra's just to be sure. You know the saying; if you're in a hole, dig deeper



ex-miners and bitcoin holders like myself thank you for your sacrifice in making our network more secure!

calculate always with a future price of $1000/BTC and your pain in the ass is gone. realy no joke. it works for me!  Grin

You'll be even happier having more $1000 coins by buying direct than having way less $1000 mined coins.  Tongue
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October 14, 2013, 06:28:09 PM
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To be fair they are the only company that is allowing refunds right now.  


They are not. If someone got one, please do point me to them.



Who else is?  Guess I'm not in the loop.
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October 14, 2013, 06:28:43 PM
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There's a brown to the lower dirt there.  From NY, the dirt on LI, except at the shore or out east, was a deep rich dark soil loaded with earthworms.  Early in this planet's history there was a collision with another, smaller, planet and the moon was formed.  I'm convinced the dirt down here in the south is from that alien planet.  It's red as Mars, lies dense as red brick, and has a thin layer of top soil completely unlike anything on LI.  This has to be alien what I'm living on.  What's up north is the real earth.

Sounds like SR closure didnt prevent you from scoring...

I don't get it.  Oh, I get it, you take umbrage, implying I'm tripping.



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October 14, 2013, 06:29:53 PM
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The price had better explode.  Those of us with Jupiters need to climb out of a $7000 hole.

Ah dont panic. If it doesnt work out with KnC, just try with hashfast. Get some "miner protection" while you're at it, and order some cointerra's just to be sure. You know the saying; if you're in a hole, dig deeper

http://kensten.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/digging-a-hole.jpg

ex-miners and bitcoin holders like myself thank you for your sacrifice in making our network more secure!

calculate always with a future price of $1000/BTC and your pain in the ass is gone. realy no joke. it works for me!  Grin

You'll be even happier having more $1000 coins by buying direct than having way less $1000 mined coins.  Tongue

I support the network. period. at least as long I have a break even with electricity costs.
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