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November 15, 2013, 07:51:06 PM |
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thx for pointing out, will keep it in mind in case I might need it some day fortunately I'm not punished to use windows ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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November 15, 2013, 08:18:29 PM |
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So the biggest outstanding issue, as far as I can see, if the die0 issues. It is for me. Partially addressed in 98.1, but still far from a satisfactory solution.
11 days after the last firmware release, knc release a new firmware today that does nothing to address the biggest outstanding issue - die0 problems.
Is this it then knc? Run out of ideas? You aren't going to bother with a fix for the die0 issues for customers? Too busy making money on new orders and fire-sale of ex-RMA boards to take care of current customers?
Then you need to make an announcement saying that. With a promise that anyone who RMA's bad die0 boards will get a new 140GH+ replacement - no quibbles. And stop this BS criminal practice of sending back faulty boards if they can jointly hash over 450GH, which is what you seem to be doing. This is only fair, considering how much most people with die0 issues have lost now.
Who the fuck paid for faulty boards? I didn't, but that's what I got. Where is my solution?? Where is the firmware that addresses the biggest outstanding issue your customers have knc?
Get one of your shills representatives over to this forum to address customer concerns and start coming up with solutions for people who gave you the money to exist.
i know im wasting my energy but he's right. i have tried everything, and still suffer dead die0 issue! i was resigned to waiting upon the 'tuning suite' until 0.99 was unceremoniously served up, tl;dr - meh (still)
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November 15, 2013, 08:33:36 PM |
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Avenger... Die 0 was addressed with the 0.98.1 beta firmware, and most machines were fixed with it. Other than you, I don't think there are more than a handfull more out there..MAYBE. So to call that the "Biggest issue" is Total Crap. okay we have... 1. Avenger (Assuming he really has a machine) 2. Edgar.... 3....?
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November 15, 2013, 08:37:45 PM |
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While I haven't had that issue, have you guys tried just moving the module to a different port? Old school but might do something..
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November 15, 2013, 08:47:50 PM |
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Not trying to be an asshole here but if a single die is failing the machine afaik still fulfills their promised hashing speed. KnC could deny RMA requests for this problem or decide not to fix it at all.
So be content if they're working on it. They could decide not to.
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November 15, 2013, 08:49:31 PM |
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@who already updated to 0.99
What's your power consumption? Is it still at 0.98.1 (beta) levels or has it dropped? I'm also interested in what the VRMs are pulling (according to bertmod).
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November 15, 2013, 08:51:16 PM |
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Jupiter FW 0.99 Running for a couple of Hours. Hash Rate up on average at Pool from 552Gh/s to 564Gh/s Average on CGM 562Gh/s WU up from 7706 to 7803 Power at Wall Down from 748W to 746W HW Errors about 1.5% Still same as FW 0.98.1 Peace ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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November 15, 2013, 08:55:10 PM |
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edgar, TheAvenger If you have tested heat, all firmware version including the unofficial 0.98.1-beta, enablecores.bin and it is still not running as expected, you should be able to get working ones I hope. Today I visited the KnC offices in Stockholm. Primarily to exchange all my boards with the Die 0 problem (...)
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November 15, 2013, 09:02:15 PM |
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So the biggest outstanding issue, as far as I can see, if the die0 issues. It is for me. Partially addressed in 98.1, but still far from a satisfactory solution.
11 days after the last firmware release, knc release a new firmware today that does nothing to address the biggest outstanding issue - die0 problems.
Is this it then knc? Run out of ideas? You aren't going to bother with a fix for the die0 issues for customers? Too busy making money on new orders and fire-sale of ex-RMA boards to take care of current customers?
Then you need to make an announcement saying that. With a promise that anyone who RMA's bad die0 boards will get a new 140GH+ replacement - no quibbles. And stop this BS criminal practice of sending back faulty boards if they can jointly hash over 450GH, which is what you seem to be doing. This is only fair, considering how much most people with die0 issues have lost now.
Who the fuck paid for faulty boards? I didn't, but that's what I got. Where is my solution?? Where is the firmware that addresses the biggest outstanding issue your customers have knc?
Get one of your shills representatives over to this forum to address customer concerns and start coming up with solutions for people who gave you the money to exist.
i know im wasting my energy but he's right. i have tried everything, and still suffer dead die0 issue! i was resigned to waiting upon the 'tuning suite' until 0.99 was unceremoniously served up, tl;dr - meh (still) What version bertmod are you using to get die info. Since I left 0.94 for higher firmware I don't get die readings with bertmod.
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November 15, 2013, 09:03:02 PM |
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They are already doing this. Hi, Apologies for the delay in reply. If the performance of your miners now average 500 GH/s + we are not able to issue an RMA. If your average hash rate is lower than 450 due to the die issue then we can issue and RMA for a replacement. If you have any further questions please do not hesitate in contacting us. Best regards | Med vänlig hälsning Keith Gurnett So if they won't issue RMA for 500 GH/s output should they be advertising the unit as 550 GH/s? The quote is also ambiguous. So >=500 GH/s is no RMA. <450 GH = confirmed RMA. What about 450 to 499 GH/s?
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November 15, 2013, 09:05:58 PM |
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Not trying to be an asshole here but if a single die is failing the machine afaik still fulfills their promised hashing speed. KnC could deny RMA requests for this problem or decide not to fix it at all.
So be content if they're working on it. They could decide not to.
First of all, I refer you to their launch video on 30th September: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFOcI8nK2xI"In August, we said 400. WELL IT'S NOT 400. WELL IT'S NOT 400. WELL IT'S NOT 400.WE HAVE A 500 MACHINE HERE FOR YOU." So the baseline they promised once they went from theoretical to an actual machine hashing is 500GH/s. So either KNC are lying fuckers or this is true and every customer is entitled to 500GH/s, as promised on 30th September before even one single October order device shipped? I also refer you to this picture on their website, which has been there since pretty much the launch video: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kncminer.com%2Fpictures%2Fcarousel%2F5436.png&t=665&c=-d6DWGmk_1EETg) As you can see, there is a big red cross through the 400GH/s. You still following me? So afaik, they are fucking lying asshole for trying to pretend they only promised 400GH. It's all pretty clear above we were promised 500GH, which is not possible to achieve with multiple die0 problems. KNC party line recently: We understand your concern regarding your miner not performing as well as others, however as your hash rate is higher than 400GH/s we cannot issue a RMA. We are continuously working on the firmware to improve performance and stability.
So I'll state once again, KNC returning faulty boards back to people who RMA's them and those boards collectively achieving less than 500GH/s is lies and criminality. They promise 500GH/s. That is what they deliver or else they are a bunch of fucking liars. I've been holding out for a firmware fix, because I don't want to lose more money sending boards back if they are going to send me the same faulty boards back, as per SharkCat's experience. Now it seems in 11 days they can't even be bothered to fix the No.1 issue - too busy with their fire-sale of ex-RMA boards and getting their unprofessional trolls to insult customers.
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November 15, 2013, 09:07:56 PM |
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Hi, We understand your concern regarding your miner not performing as well as others, however as your hash rate is higher than 400GH/s we cannot issue a RMA. We are continuously working on the firmware to improve performance and stability. If you have any further questions or issues please do not hesitate in contacting us. Best regards | Med vänlig hälsning Keith Gurnett Kncminer www.kncminer.comOffice: +46 8559 253 20
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November 15, 2013, 09:10:20 PM |
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@ anyone w/jupiter - what are you using for the 4th module with your V850s?
mine came with 3 'twin' connectors, so im using one connector 'twice' and it is HOT!
Twin molex to PCI-E is one solution. Or I read that you can use one of the CPU slots to plug an additional PCI-E cable there (if you have any), but do your own research for that as I cannot be held responsible for any damages. Btw if you send an email to Cooler Master to request additional PCI-E cables they will be happy to send you some. I'm currently waiting 7 to arrive: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FxpT7JnF.png&t=665&c=Qs6jpvstY3Av1g) Bless you, I'll email them immediately. i saw the 2 molex - pci-e option in 2011 but not comfortable trying it on the jupiter was curious what others are using - the twin method works but less than ideal, especially with an empty pci-e slot right thurr what are you using to power ur extras, a second psu? I would not use PCI-E to molex adaptors for a jupiter. those were designed with the 75W PCI-E limit in mind, and a single jupiter ASIC draws far more than 75w Agreed, just use the 8-pin CPU connector, just upside down ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fdl.dropboxusercontent.com%2Fu%2F16075357%2Fcpu.png&t=665&c=KyNYIT6xKe1qWQ) Is this safe to do? Cool trick.
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November 15, 2013, 09:13:17 PM |
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Jupiter FW 0.99 Running for a couple of Hours. Hash Rate up on average at Pool from 552Gh/s to 564Gh/s Average on CGM 562Gh/s WU up from 7706 to 7803 Power at Wall Down from 748W to 746W HW Errors about 1.5% Still same as FW 0.98.1 Peace ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) You're hitting 750w? Bizarre, I'm @ 690w with 98.1
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November 15, 2013, 09:25:54 PM |
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Not trying to be an asshole here but if a single die is failing the machine afaik still fulfills their promised hashing speed. KnC could deny RMA requests for this problem or decide not to fix it at all.
So be content if they're working on it. They could decide not to.
First of all, I refer you to their launch video on 30th September: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFOcI8nK2xI"In August, we said 400. WELL IT'S NOT 400. WELL IT'S NOT 400. WELL IT'S NOT 400.WE HAVE A 500 MACHINE HERE FOR YOU." So the baseline they promised once they went from theoretical to an actual machine hashing is 500GH/s. So either KNC are lying fuckers or this is true and every customer is entitled to 500GH/s, as promised on 30th September before even one single October order device shipped? I also refer you to this picture on their website, which has been there since pretty much the launch video: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kncminer.com%2Fpictures%2Fcarousel%2F5436.png&t=665&c=-d6DWGmk_1EETg) As you can see, there is a big red cross through the 400GH/s. You still following me? So afaik, they are fucking lying asshole for trying to pretend they only promised 400GH. It's all pretty clear above we were promised 500GH, which is not possible to achieve with multiple die0 problems. KNC party line recently: We understand your concern regarding your miner not performing as well as others, however as your hash rate is higher than 400GH/s we cannot issue a RMA. We are continuously working on the firmware to improve performance and stability.
So I'll state once again, KNC returning faulty boards back to people who RMA's them and those boards collectively achieving less than 500GH/s is lies and criminality. They promise 500GH/s. That is what they deliver or else they are a bunch of fucking liars. I've been holding out for a firmware fix, because I don't want to lose more money sending boards back if they are going to send me the same faulty boards back, as per SharkCat's experience. Now it seems in 11 days they can't even be bothered to fix the No.1 issue - too busy with their fire-sale of ex-RMA boards and getting their unprofessional trolls to insult customers. Yes. I totally agree that they are liars. It's a fact so no disagreement there. But it's not accurate to call them criminals if you "only" get a 450Gh machine when you paid for 400Gh one.
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November 15, 2013, 09:32:58 PM |
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Yes. I totally agree that they are liars. It's a fact so no disagreement there.
But it's not accurate to call them criminals if you "only" get a 450Gh machine when you paid for 400Gh one.
https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-40We would like to say that after a very long stint in the factory over the weekend and with great help from our entire engineering team we are finally ready to release the figures you have all been waiting for, Jupiter is of course not a 400 machine it’s much more than that. Watch the video on our youtube sitehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFOcI8nK2xITruth or lies in their official company newsletter to customers? If that is not an official statement, what is?
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November 15, 2013, 09:40:22 PM |
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November 15, 2013, 09:51:39 PM |
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Avenger... Die 0 was addressed with the 0.98.1 beta firmware, and most machines were fixed with it. Other than you, I don't think there are more than a handfull more out there..MAYBE. So to call that the "Biggest issue" is Total Crap. okay we have... 1. Avenger (Assuming he really has a machine) 2. Edgar.... 3....?
Me. I have 2 boards that I am exchanging on Monday. Bought the tickets already ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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November 15, 2013, 09:55:08 PM |
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I replaced an un-fixable die 0 board and it only took 6 days through RMA. My Jupiter has never run better.
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