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The Avenger
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November 19, 2013, 09:41:22 PM |
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"I am not The Avenger"
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It is a common myth that Bitcoin is ruled by a majority of miners. This is not true. Bitcoin miners "vote" on the ordering of transactions, but that's all they do. They can't vote to change the network rules.
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xyzzy099
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November 19, 2013, 09:43:02 PM |
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Thanks for the heads-up  |
Libertarians: Diligently plotting to take over the world and leave you alone.
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Bitcoinorama
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November 19, 2013, 09:43:56 PM |
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Ok, in between the complaining and stressing and accusing, can someone tell me the process that lets you know when your miner is going to ship. First, it says paid. Then what?
Thanksgiving is coming, so this 5-10 day delay could actually be VERY expensive for americans.
first you get "in progress" means in the queue for assembly/manufacture then "shipped" means made, your customer wallet info has been flashed and the address label printed and applied. Basically awaiting UPS pick-up. the tracking id will then come once UPS is in possession and en route... Just to be anal. In Process is what I am waiting for now. So, that happens when? At the point they send the UPS labels to the contract manufacturer? Does that mean it could be days "in process" or only hours? Means the customer file is no longer in the hands of KnC and is registered on the factories database for assembly. When they receiver the delivery of blank PCBs they can begin to mount the components, etc. ASICs are sitting there waiting. |
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tolip_wen
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November 19, 2013, 09:49:22 PM |
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@ joeventura
One reason is easy access to the top and bottom of running modules.
@ bobsag3
The PCB/case has 75x75mm holes and standoffs.
This is Intel LGA 1155 pattern.
The thermal xfer area of the ASIC pkg is ~40x40mm.
The distance between the VRM's is ~85mm.
Don't forget the VRM's need good airflow.
The PCB corner holes are same as a 120mm fan.
Somebody @ KnC did good with the mechanical dimensions!
@ Biffa
Agree, Water is the choice for thermal reasons alone.
Water also has a cleanup advantage.
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bobsag3
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November 19, 2013, 10:04:32 PM |
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@ joeventura
One reason is easy access to the top and bottom of running modules.
@ bobsag3
The PCB/case has 75x75mm holes and standoffs.
This is Intel LGA 1155 pattern.
The thermal xfer area of the ASIC pkg is ~40x40mm.
The distance between the VRM's is ~85mm.
Don't forget the VRM's need good airflow.
The PCB corner holes are same as a 120mm fan.
Somebody @ KnC did good with the mechanical dimensions!
@ Biffa
Agree, Water is the choice for thermal reasons alone.
Water also has a cleanup advantage.
I was thinking about doing like your mounting (upside down) with a fan blowing up onto the VRM's where the HS is. + 2 240 rads for a jupiter... should do well with the overclocking in the november units. |
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The Avenger
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November 19, 2013, 10:19:23 PM |
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Thanks for the heads-up For anything related to politics, that was pretty interesting. Basically, they don't want bitcoin to be used to fund terrorism or buy drugs. Otherwise, they seemed quite interested in it's potential for innovation. P.S. Gallippi represented! |
"I am not The Avenger"
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Phoenix1969
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November 19, 2013, 10:24:25 PM |
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@ joeventura
One reason is easy access to the top and bottom of running modules.
@ bobsag3
The PCB/case has 75x75mm holes and standoffs.
This is Intel LGA 1155 pattern.
The thermal xfer area of the ASIC pkg is ~40x40mm.
The distance between the VRM's is ~85mm.
Don't forget the VRM's need good airflow.
The PCB corner holes are same as a 120mm fan.
Somebody @ KnC did good with the mechanical dimensions!
@ Biffa
Agree, Water is the choice for thermal reasons alone.
Water also has a cleanup advantage.
**too much air on the VRM's will shut some down.... just be aware of that. sweet lookin' setup btw... |
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jonoiv
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November 19, 2013, 10:27:10 PM |
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Thanks for the heads-up For anything related to politics, that was pretty interesting. Basically, they don't want bitcoin to be used to fund terrorism or buy drugs. Otherwise, they seemed quite interested in it's potential for innovation. You need to read between the lines. What i took from it was.. It's fine as long as we have a the right to cease funds, and every exchange muh collect personal details, same as a bank. I guess people only heard what they wanted to here! crypto will carry on regardless |
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btc_uzr
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let's have some fun
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November 19, 2013, 10:30:00 PM |
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Thanks for the heads-up For anything related to politics, that was pretty interesting. Basically, they don't want bitcoin to be used to fund terrorism or buy drugs. Otherwise, they seemed quite interested in it's potential for innovation. P.S. Gallippi represented! archive link for those who missed it http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/VirtualCu1:36:02 |
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Phoenix1969
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November 19, 2013, 10:30:29 PM |
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Thanks for the heads-up For anything related to politics, that was pretty interesting. Basically, they don't want bitcoin to be used to fund terrorism or buy drugs. Otherwise, they seemed quite interested in it's potential for innovation. You need to read between the lines. What i took from it was.. It's fine as long as we have a the right to cease funds, and every exchange muh collect personal details, same as a bank. I guess people only heard what they wanted to here! crypto will carry on regardless What I got "Between the lines" Is that they want traceability, and identity; they were promised that....end of story. Look for a huge jump in BTC price now! Wow. |
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tolip_wen
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November 19, 2013, 10:34:18 PM |
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**too much air on the VRM's will shut some down.... just be aware of that. sweet lookin' setup btw... from the MDT040A0X docs. Wide operating temperature range [-40°C to105°C] I don't think you know what you are talking about. But thx for appreciating the aesthetics. |
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The Avenger
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November 19, 2013, 10:37:58 PM
Last edit: November 19, 2013, 10:56:31 PM by The Avenger |
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Thanks for the heads-up For anything related to politics, that was pretty interesting. Basically, they don't want bitcoin to be used to fund terrorism or buy drugs. Otherwise, they seemed quite interested in it's potential for innovation. You need to read between the lines. What i took from it was.. It's fine as long as we have a the right to cease funds, and every exchange muh collect personal details, same as a bank. I guess people only heard what they wanted to here! crypto will carry on regardless Dunno, I don't think you heard everything. They did mention the possibility of collecting personal data, but also "Maybe we should just leave it (Bitcoin) alone." Senator Heitkamp Even Schumer, who ordered the silk road arrest, said this, which is fairly positive. "I do not want to shut down or shut out Bitcion. It has profound and exciting implications for financial services." Sen Chuck Schumer It seemed to go well. I think when Gallippi mentioned that the US wasn't even in the top 6 of btc exchanges, their ears perked up quite a lot. And when he said China were No. 1  Anyway, off topic, just thought I'd mention it in this thread. Plenty of discussion in the wall observer thread. And the revelation of who Satoshi really is  |
"I am not The Avenger"
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DPoS
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November 19, 2013, 10:38:24 PM |
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Saying that what Bitcoin needs right now is stability
Like many here said, this convo is alive in other threads but to help soy out a bit just know that stability isn't something that magically happens. Things like carry trades, liquidity, larger float are vital for true price discovery. Bitcoin lacks in all of these currently which will lead to major volatility when big enough tides roll in...and out. |
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davewr2013
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November 19, 2013, 10:40:05 PM |
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Wonder if the ignore button works both ways. Would be a calming effect if it did. Ignore a user and neither sees any of the others posts.
Even if we do ignore you and you ignore us -- the completely irrelevant posts pile up. There are other forums for the type of discussion you want to hold. Even feel free to invite us -- and if it's interesting enough we will dive in. In a sense I feel your pain. When I see users trading barbs about almost anything it can get rather windy in here with some posts having a wall of text. When I see these I often see many users I ignored and know I was right in not wanting to have their spew before my eyes. Insight and understanding are the first steps on the path of attainment... I must meditate on the price of Bitcoin and the success of this venture. |
Give me this day my daily Bitcoin...
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jonoiv
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November 19, 2013, 10:40:54 PM |
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Thanks for the heads-up For anything related to politics, that was pretty interesting. Basically, they don't want bitcoin to be used to fund terrorism or buy drugs. Otherwise, they seemed quite interested in it's potential for innovation. You need to read between the lines. What i took from it was.. It's fine as long as we have a the right to cease funds, and every exchange muh collect personal details, same as a bank. I guess people only heard what they wanted to here! crypto will carry on regardless What I got "Between the lines" Is that they want traceability, and identity; they were promised that....end of story. Look for a huge jump in BTC price now! Wow. So they want traceability. Now that's fair enough, but that then makes my bitcoin have a little more in common with my credit card. Lets be honest the anonymity of crypto is the main selling point. But regardless back on topic! |
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November 19, 2013, 10:53:04 PM |
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Thanks for the heads-up For anything related to politics, that was pretty interesting. Basically, they don't want bitcoin to be used to fund terrorism or buy drugs. Otherwise, they seemed quite interested in it's potential for innovation. You need to read between the lines. What i took from it was.. It's fine as long as we have a the right to cease funds, and every exchange muh collect personal details, same as a bank. I guess people only heard what they wanted to here! crypto will carry on regardless What I got "Between the lines" Is that they want traceability, and identity; they were promised that....end of story. Look for a huge jump in BTC price now! Wow. So they want traceability. Now that's fair enough, but that then makes my bitcoin have a little more in common with my credit card. Lets be honest the anonymity of crypto is the main selling point. But regardless back on topic! Shouldn't comment on non-topic I know, but personally what sold me on Bitcoin was that there is a fixed number of coins and that won't change come hell or high water. I see exec's getting million dollar bonuses and the cost on to consumers up to their necks in debt - so those bonuses are debtors tomorrow's money today, expanding the money supply. Every year the dollar gets less valuable. Those that get the million dollar bonuses don't care, it's in their favor. Versus the dollar Bitcoin is going to rise, period. |
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Phoenix1969
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November 19, 2013, 11:13:00 PM |
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**too much air on the VRM's will shut some down.... just be aware of that. sweet lookin' setup btw... from the MDT040A0X docs. Wide operating temperature range [-40°C to105°C] I don't think you know what you are talking about. But thx for appreciating the aesthetics. whatever... okay....cool away.... it was only posted like a dozen times by different folks, but I guess I'm wrong. |
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davewr2013
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November 19, 2013, 11:13:46 PM |
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Made a block on Bitminter.... Finally! Course there's no special reward -- just a request for the next one... Maybe the upgrade will push out some more! |
Give me this day my daily Bitcoin...
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vesperwillow
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November 19, 2013, 11:31:32 PM |
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@Bitcoinorama, any idea on when KNC will open up orders again?
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Clueless!
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November 19, 2013, 11:35:17 PM |
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From the link above Now that’s what I call a tail-risk option. It’s either worth zero or it’s worth a truly outstanding amount of money. yeah right 3.3 million a coin (would be nice thou) yeah from the above quote...but then again with everyone on here hyping the coin ..it may likely be worth zero some day....of course the odds...I'm just going from the point of view of the odds of my 21 coins being 21 million are small to say the least......(we are talking about ME actually picking the right horse and the right time to bet on something don't ya know) good read thou...will keep me entertained till the "alien overloads" invade the planet (same odds) of 3.3 million a coin |
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