Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com

[opentoe]

any way to get refunds from Titans or not really? ;x

You pre-ordered something months in advance and now asking for money back because things looking bad?

I feel for you, but some people just have to learn and get fucked up the ass to finally learn a lesson. NEVER PRE-ORDER ANYTHING. You are essentially giving a company an interest free loan to do what they want with it. Titan, Neptune. Pooey.

When I saw the Neptune model that is was 4 or 5 separate boxes that was a sure sign of big problems right there. Users have a hard enough time troubleshooting one box let alone 5. Power supplies all over, cables infecting the home. Help, these boxes are taking over my place like gremlins.

Sorry, very bad mood lately.

[opentoe]

if anyone's interested, my brother is selling his neptunes
http://www.ebay.com/itm/KncMiner-Neptune-Bitcoin-Miner-3-3-3-5TH-20nm-in-Hand-ready-to-ship-/291240205547
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1L4K49NCHTymWjeWrn8tGuVmeTq9bENx2v

wow that is really cheap

Dude, it's an auction. Prices start off low then sky rocket at the end.

[RoadStress]

if anyone's interested, my brother is selling his neptunes
http://www.ebay.com/itm/KncMiner-Neptune-Bitcoin-Miner-3-3-3-5TH-20nm-in-Hand-ready-to-ship-/291240205547
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1L4K49NCHTymWjeWrn8tGuVmeTq9bENx2v

wow that is really cheap

Dude, it's an auction. Prices start off low then sky rocket at the end.

I don't think that the price will sky rocket at the end of this auction...

[smoothrunnings]

Does anyone know what the maximum operating temp is on the Neptune?

Thanks,

[RawDog]

Does anyone know what the maximum operating temp is on the Neptune?

Thanks,

I am pretty sure they will run in ambient as high as 50C.  They don't like it there, but they will run there.  Here is one suffering the effects of pretty high ambient with the afternoon heat.

 When you match this up with a local weather outlook, it correlates perfectly!   The ambient temp / heat drives the hashrate down.  The worse case scenario was 50C

[smoothrunnings]

Does anyone know what the maximum operating temp is on the Neptune?

Thanks,

I am pretty sure they will run in ambient as high as 50C.  They don't like it there, but they will run there.  Here is one suffering the effects of pretty high ambient with the afternoon heat.

 When you match this up with a local weather outlook, it correlates perfectly!   The ambient temp / heat drives the hashrate down.  The worse case scenario was 50C

This is good to know thanks.. Now I need to figure out a design for a big cardboard box so I can run my Neppys outside in the winter time.

[kingscrown]

ive made full troubleshooting guide for current knc neptunes: 1. Board doesnt see miners http://fuk.io/knc-neptune-setup-guide-review-and-troubleshooting-35-terahash-bitcoin-miner/

[jpass022]

Does anyone know what the maximum operating temp is on the Neptune?

Thanks,

My setup for many months:


Mining Status
Miner Status   Running CGMiner (pid=21448)
Last Checked   Sat Sep 13 04:12:33 UTC 2014
Avg. Hash Rate   3575 Gh/s
WU   49886
Difficulty Accepted   273455155
HW Status
ASIC slot   Temperature   DC/DC avg temp   Clock   Type
1   ---   ---   ---   OFF
2   58.5 ℃   79.6 ℃   500 MHz   NE
3   56.5 ℃   79.3 ℃   500 MHz   NE
4   59 ℃           80.3 ℃   500 MHz     NE
5   57.5 ℃   78.4 ℃   500 MHz   NE
6   55.5 ℃   75.8 ℃   500 MHz   NE

Ambient temp has been 35C to 40C....

[forzendiablo]

Does anyone know what the maximum operating temp is on the Neptune?

Thanks,

My setup for many months:


Mining Status
Miner Status   Running CGMiner (pid=21448)
Last Checked   Sat Sep 13 04:12:33 UTC 2014
Avg. Hash Rate   3575 Gh/s
WU   49886
Difficulty Accepted   273455155
HW Status
ASIC slot   Temperature   DC/DC avg temp   Clock   Type
1   ---   ---   ---   OFF
2   58.5 ℃   79.6 ℃   500 MHz   NE
3   56.5 ℃   79.3 ℃   500 MHz   NE
4   59 ℃           80.3 ℃   500 MHz     NE
5   57.5 ℃   78.4 ℃   500 MHz   NE
6   55.5 ℃   75.8 ℃   500 MHz   NE

Ambient temp has been 35C to 40C....

did u put more volts for 500mhz from 475?

[aasl]

Does anyone know what the maximum operating temp is on the Neptune?

Thanks,

My setup for many months:


Mining Status
Miner Status   Running CGMiner (pid=21448)
Last Checked   Sat Sep 13 04:12:33 UTC 2014
Avg. Hash Rate   3575 Gh/s
WU   49886
Difficulty Accepted   273455155
HW Status
ASIC slot   Temperature   DC/DC avg temp   Clock   Type
1   ---   ---   ---   OFF
2   58.5 ℃   79.6 ℃   500 MHz   NE
3   56.5 ℃   79.3 ℃   500 MHz   NE
4   59 ℃           80.3 ℃   500 MHz     NE
5   57.5 ℃   78.4 ℃   500 MHz   NE
6   55.5 ℃   75.8 ℃   500 MHz   NE

Ambient temp has been 35C to 40C....

what commands did you use to display information like this?

[smoothrunnings]

Does anyone know what the maximum operating temp is on the Neptune?

Thanks,

My setup for many months:


Mining Status
Miner Status   Running CGMiner (pid=21448)
Last Checked   Sat Sep 13 04:12:33 UTC 2014
Avg. Hash Rate   3575 Gh/s
WU   49886
Difficulty Accepted   273455155
HW Status
ASIC slot   Temperature   DC/DC avg temp   Clock   Type
1   ---   ---   ---   OFF
2   58.5 ℃   79.6 ℃   500 MHz   NE
3   56.5 ℃   79.3 ℃   500 MHz   NE
4   59 ℃           80.3 ℃   500 MHz     NE
5   57.5 ℃   78.4 ℃   500 MHz   NE
6   55.5 ℃   75.8 ℃   500 MHz   NE

Ambient temp has been 35C to 40C....

What does the power consumption show on your Advance page of your miners web console?

On mine which is running at 475Mhz its 1440W.

[jomay]

Are you a KnCMiner customer, feel abused by their fraudulent business practices and and have considered a legal route? Did you query and got replies from consumer agencies?

Please check my threads and contribute if you can!

I'm collecting replies from authorities and lawyers, as well as collecting points that may be useful for legal action here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=781435

I've also started a thread to get an idea whether there is enough interest in a class action lawsuit:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=781422

[smoothrunnings]

Are you a KnCMiner customer, feel abused by their fraudulent business practices and and have considered a legal route? Did you query and got replies from consumer agencies?

Please check my threads and contribute if you can!

I'm collecting replies from authorities and lawyers, as well as collecting points that may be useful for legal action here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=781435

I've also started a thread to get an idea whether there is enough interest in a class action lawsuit:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=781422

Make sure you confirm that this fraud is illegal in Sweden before you contact the authorities or you will be the biggest fool.

[jomay]

Are you a KnCMiner customer, feel abused by their fraudulent business practices and and have considered a legal route? Did you query and got replies from consumer agencies?

Please check my threads and contribute if you can!

I'm collecting replies from authorities and lawyers, as well as collecting points that may be useful for legal action here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=781435

I've also started a thread to get an idea whether there is enough interest in a class action lawsuit:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=781422

Make sure you confirm that this fraud is illegal in Sweden before you contact the authorities or you will be the biggest fool.

That's alright. I'd rather be a fool that speaks up than a fool that remains silent.
Also, if you have read through my thread you'd see that I collected a few points indicative for fraud.

Someone's got to get Sam Cole out of his Scam Hole!

[smoothrunnings]

Are you a KnCMiner customer, feel abused by their fraudulent business practices and and have considered a legal route? Did you query and got replies from consumer agencies?

Please check my threads and contribute if you can!

I'm collecting replies from authorities and lawyers, as well as collecting points that may be useful for legal action here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=781435

I've also started a thread to get an idea whether there is enough interest in a class action lawsuit:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=781422

Make sure you confirm that this fraud is illegal in Sweden before you contact the authorities or you will be the biggest fool.

That's alright. I'd rather be a fool that speaks up than a fool that remains silent.
Also, if you have read through my thread you'd see that I collected a few points indicative for fraud.

Someone's got to get Sam Cole out of his Scam Hole!

Here is something to think about lawsuits takes YEARS and millions of dollars until they go to court and and or settlement is reached. Overseas lawsuits take even longer, because of where the parties are located. I knew someone growing up as a kid who's brother in the UK stole her half of her families fortune. Her brothers and sisters went to the same school's that Prince Charles went to at the same time he was attending; to give you some idea of their wealth. Anyhow 10 years into and there was still no resolution or settlement. She lived here in Canada as a Canadian Citizen while her brother lived in the UK. I am not sure when it did finally come to a close but the point is do you have the time and money and get into this wit KNC? I mean do you not think that KNC hasn't already been told by other angry people that they are gong to coming after them legally that they themselves haven't consulted their own lawyers?

Good luck is all I can say. But make sure you really look at the pros and cons of doing this and weigh in by asking yourself if it's really worth it in the end?

I hope you can find yourself a few wealthy people who are willing to go through with it. Notice I said wealthy and no rich? There is a difference between the two classes of people.

[smoothrunnings]

Advanced Tuning, as KNC calls it, on the Neppy's, if I go up to 500Mhz do I leave the voltages along on each die or do I need to lower or up them? If I need to up them what's been the best setting?

Thanks

[mwizard]

Are you a KnCMiner customer, feel abused by their fraudulent business practices and and have considered a legal route? Did you query and got replies from consumer agencies?

Please check my threads and contribute if you can!

I'm collecting replies from authorities and lawyers, as well as collecting points that may be useful for legal action here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=781435

I've also started a thread to get an idea whether there is enough interest in a class action lawsuit:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=781422

In your thread on legal actions against KNC you say KNC boards need a CE marking.  But only devices that fall within specific CE directives need CE markings.  

I cannot see how the KNC miner falls under any directive.  It is not a medical device. It uses 12V which is well under the directive limit of 50V.  It is irrelevant where the 12V comes from.  

You need to name which directive the miner falls under because only then will it be clear what the requirements are for that CE marking.    Unless the miner falls under a specific CE directive it does not need a CE marking.    

See http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/policies/single-market-goods/cemarking/about-ce-marking/index_en.htm

Having to include an imaginary issue around KNC breaking the law over CE markings, because it does not also sell the power supplies, does not seem helpful to your case.

[kingscrown]

http://fuk.io/knc-neptune-setup-guide-review-and-troubleshooting-35-terahash-bitcoin-miner/

full KNC troubleshooting guide by me

with help of few guys here

[jomay]

In your thread on legal actions against KNC you say KNC boards need a CE marking.  But only devices that fall within specific CE directives need CE markings.  

I cannot see how the KNC miner falls under any directive.  It is not a medical device. It uses 12V which is well under the directive limit of 50V.  It is irrelevant where the 12V comes from.  

Yes, I see that and that's why I have written "may" need CE marking. However, why would a 12V halogen bulb have the CE marking?
I am also wondering whether there are other regulations besides CE. A company cannot sell something clearly dangerous to its customers without warning.

The law and regulations also often don't like if they are "side-stepped" in a shady manner. That's what I meant with the missing PSU. Example: I have a free capital gains tax allowance per year. If I try to crystallize gains by selling and quickly buying again, then the tax man argues that this was only for tax reasons and hence void. I understand tax laws are of more interest, but I believe a similar principle may apply here.

Having to include an imaginary issue around KNC breaking the law over CE markings, because it does not also sell the power supplies, does not seem helpful to your case.

No, my case is not built on this and I don't need to include it. The consumer vs. business issue may be the most promising route. I think the fire hazard and low safety of their equipment simply adds to the case, as it is a very good reason for a consumer to cancel an order.

[jomay]

Good luck is all I can say. But make sure you really look at the pros and cons of doing this and weigh in by asking yourself if it's really worth it in the end?

I hope you can find yourself a few wealthy people who are willing to go through with it. Notice I said wealthy and no rich? There is a difference between the two classes of people.

Yes I understand. That's why my main goal is to get a refund, and that should be very easy and cheap to test. After all I simply want to know whether I am a business or a consumer. In the UK I'd file a case at a small claims court, done. I'm not sure how to deal with it in Sweden.

Maybe you don't see it, but I'm actually investing quite a lot of my time for sth. that does not necessarily help only or primarily me. Otherwise I'd simply put pressure on KnC privately and accept any compensation and agree to not say anything anymore. Maybe I should do this.