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Author Topic: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool  (Read 4341903 times)
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May 25, 2013, 01:46:45 AM
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So... regarding the missed blocks and payments, you guys aren't upset about it?  It just gets overlooked because we've been lucky lately? 

I am not being a dick, but my normal reward per round is ~.03 and there were like 3 that were .006 or less, not due to any downtime on my miner.  I may be back if I can't do better elsewhere, but I'm going to check out btcguild until these issues are fixed. 

Slush hasnt acknowledged block 237574 was missed so he gets all 25BTC.
I see block 237575 got adjusted scoring me on 237574's shares so I made .00131371 when I should have gotten around .0066x.
My friend who is mining 2.5gh/s like me his block 237575 got adjusted to .014x when it should have been .0077x so he essentially got paid for block 237574 and 237575 where I got absolutely nothing for 237574 and only 1/6 payment for 237575.

not much you can do if Slush doesnt acknowledge it happened.

Weird.  237574 is showing out of place when I look in the "statistics" menu.  For me, it shows right above 237575 in the grid, but, if it was going in order (since they are descending), it should have appeared below it.  Are you sure it's missing for you and not just out of place?
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May 25, 2013, 01:58:47 AM
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So... regarding the missed blocks and payments, you guys aren't upset about it?  It just gets overlooked because we've been lucky lately? 

I am not being a dick, but my normal reward per round is ~.03 and there were like 3 that were .006 or less, not due to any downtime on my miner.  I may be back if I can't do better elsewhere, but I'm going to check out btcguild until these issues are fixed. 

Slush hasnt acknowledged block 237574 was missed so he gets all 25BTC.
I see block 237575 got adjusted scoring me on 237574's shares so I made .00131371 when I should have gotten around .0066x.
My friend who is mining 2.5gh/s like me his block 237575 got adjusted to .014x when it should have been .0077x so he essentially got paid for block 237574 and 237575 where I got absolutely nothing for 237574 and only 1/6 payment for 237575.

not much you can do if Slush doesnt acknowledge it happened.

Weird.  237574 is showing out of place when I look in the "statistics" menu.  For me, it shows right above 237575 in the grid, but, if it was going in order (since they are descending), it should have appeared below it.  Are you sure it's missing for you and not just out of place?

You're right, it looks like 237574 finally got added to the pool.  However, 237575 is still WAY lower than it should have been.
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May 25, 2013, 02:16:38 AM
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So... regarding the missed blocks and payments, you guys aren't upset about it?  It just gets overlooked because we've been lucky lately? 

I am not being a dick, but my normal reward per round is ~.03 and there were like 3 that were .006 or less, not due to any downtime on my miner.  I may be back if I can't do better elsewhere, but I'm going to check out btcguild until these issues are fixed. 

I'm not happy about it either and I don't think you're being a dick.  It seems that lately the pool has taken second seat to his Trezor project, which is unfortunate since this used to be the best pool out there.  In the past he's always been right on top of things and corrected any issues that have cropped up, not so much lately.
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May 25, 2013, 02:20:40 AM
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So... regarding the missed blocks and payments, you guys aren't upset about it?  It just gets overlooked because we've been lucky lately? 

I am not being a dick, but my normal reward per round is ~.03 and there were like 3 that were .006 or less, not due to any downtime on my miner.  I may be back if I can't do better elsewhere, but I'm going to check out btcguild until these issues are fixed. 

Slush hasnt acknowledged block 237574 was missed so he gets all 25BTC.
I see block 237575 got adjusted scoring me on 237574's shares so I made .00131371 when I should have gotten around .0066x.
My friend who is mining 2.5gh/s like me his block 237575 got adjusted to .014x when it should have been .0077x so he essentially got paid for block 237574 and 237575 where I got absolutely nothing for 237574 and only 1/6 payment for 237575.

not much you can do if Slush doesnt acknowledge it happened.

Weird.  237574 is showing out of place when I look in the "statistics" menu.  For me, it shows right above 237575 in the grid, but, if it was going in order (since they are descending), it should have appeared below it.  Are you sure it's missing for you and not just out of place?

AH.... I see it now... ok so 237575 I only got 1/6 it is only showing shares for 1 of my miners.  oh well
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May 25, 2013, 02:32:57 AM
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So... regarding the missed blocks and payments, you guys aren't upset about it?  It just gets overlooked because we've been lucky lately? 

I am not being a dick, but my normal reward per round is ~.03 and there were like 3 that were .006 or less, not due to any downtime on my miner.  I may be back if I can't do better elsewhere, but I'm going to check out btcguild until these issues are fixed. 

Slush hasnt acknowledged block 237574 was missed so he gets all 25BTC.
I see block 237575 got adjusted scoring me on 237574's shares so I made .00131371 when I should have gotten around .0066x.
My friend who is mining 2.5gh/s like me his block 237575 got adjusted to .014x when it should have been .0077x so he essentially got paid for block 237574 and 237575 where I got absolutely nothing for 237574 and only 1/6 payment for 237575.

not much you can do if Slush doesnt acknowledge it happened.

Weird.  237574 is showing out of place when I look in the "statistics" menu.  For me, it shows right above 237575 in the grid, but, if it was going in order (since they are descending), it should have appeared below it.  Are you sure it's missing for you and not just out of place?

AH.... I see it now... ok so 237575 I only got 1/6 it is only showing shares for 1 of my miners.  oh well

Yep, same here.  And there were two other blocks that paid out about 1/6 of the amount due as well, but they have fallen off the statistics screen.  Others mentioned them a few pages back (slush, if you see this...)  I hope they all get fixed but I am only willing to put up with so much.
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May 25, 2013, 02:56:55 AM
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I don't know how Slush does it.  Roll Eyes  Every block looked at under a microscope. I'm only a little miner, but my 7 day average is pretty consistant, day in and day out. I don't look at every blocks results. A watched block never pops. I don't second guess the software, it is smarter that me. If it is broke, Slush will fix it. But, software doesn't wear out, it works the same way under the same circumstances everytime.

The thing is most of the other pool threads are filled with similar complaints. Mining isn't a participation game. you run your rig and reap the results. If you really feel that this pool is broke, go to another pool. Personally, i think that the only thing that will help us out will be an increase in our mining power. We need a larger piece of the pie. I know I'm scrambling to find what cost effective hardware i can find.

A 7 hour block doesn't mean that one block took 7 hours to resolve, it means that a whole bunch of blocks were found by people other than us and it took us this long to find one before someone else did. The only way to improve our position is to grow.

At least that is the way i see it.
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May 25, 2013, 02:59:06 AM
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I don't know how Slush does it.  Roll Eyes  Every block looked at under a microscope. I'm only a little miner, but my 7 day average is pretty consistant, day in and day out. I don't look at every blocks results. A watched block never pops. I don't second guess the software, it is smarter that me. If it is broke, Slush will fix it. But, software doesn't wear out, it works the same way under the same circumstances everytime.

The thing is most of the other pool threads are filled with similar complaints. Mining isn't a participation game. you run your rig and reap the results. If you really feel that this pool is broke, go to another pool. Personally, i think that the only thing that will help us out will be an increase in our mining power. We need a larger piece of the pie. I know I'm scrambling to find what cost effective hardware i can find.

A 7 hour block doesn't mean that one block took 7 hours to resolve, it means that a whole bunch of blocks were found by people other than us and it took us this long to find one before someone else did. The only way to improve our position is to grow.

At least that is the way i see it.
(he doesn't lurk the thread 25 hours a day)
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May 25, 2013, 03:11:17 AM
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Hashrate on Stratum interface (30 min average):   10445.839 Ghash/s (98%)
Approx. cluster performance (30 min average):   10596.366 Ghash/s

Is it me, or has the pool grown by about 700 GH/s in this last day. It was below 9800Gh/s 24 hrs ago.
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May 25, 2013, 03:12:15 AM
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I don't know how Slush does it.  Roll Eyes  Every block looked at under a microscope.

Ridiculous, isn't it?

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May 25, 2013, 03:13:50 AM
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If it is broke, Slush will fix it. But, software doesn't wear out, it works the same way under the same circumstances everytime.


Well, he hasn't lately at least not in a very timely manner.  If the software worked the same way every time we wouldn't have had two blocks go missing in the past two days that he needed to fix and very substandard rewards issued on several blocks that he hasn't fixed, so I can only assume you have no idea what you are talking about and indeed much more than just the software is smarter than you.
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May 25, 2013, 04:31:14 AM
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If it is broke, Slush will fix it. But, software doesn't wear out, it works the same way under the same circumstances everytime.


Well, he hasn't lately at least not in a very timely manner.  If the software worked the same way every time we wouldn't have had two blocks go missing in the past two days that he needed to fix and very substandard rewards issued on several blocks that he hasn't fixed, so I can only assume you have no idea what you are talking about and indeed much more than just the software is smarter than you.

*snicker* or, perhaps i can recognise patterns that you can't. One should know better than to assume. I got my B.S. in Computer Science in 1979. When did you get yours?
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May 25, 2013, 04:31:59 AM
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Did anybody recognize that we've found another block with relativly high transaction fee?

Code:
18196 2013-05-25 02:06:02 1:57:45 17375137 583 0.00108329 none 237784  32.71150005 85 Bestätigungen ausstehend  

Is that the future (the way to earn Money with our rigs after the last block has been found)?

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May 25, 2013, 05:35:34 AM
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I'm a bit amazed how many miners complain about the Slush pool, but seemingly just can't bring themselves to jump ship.  I've moved to other pools, but I still check the Slush forum daily--it's like a TV drama.  Even with all the negative talk, I still want to believe the Slush payout method balances over time.  As do all the methods, right?  Multiple methods of payout sometimes make me think of the huge retail businesses pushing products/brands/quantities that you can get no where else, so you can't compare the value of the product one is purchasing.  I've spent hours reading the payouts and the pools, and am still uncertain as to which is best for me.

In the end, Slush seems unstable to me as a 'customer' on the outside looking in.  Yet, my payout graph was very flat (consistent) when I was mining Slush.  It's all over (but probably averages) since trying other pools....
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May 25, 2013, 05:48:29 AM
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I'm a bit amazed how many miners complain about the Slush pool, but seemingly just can't bring themselves to jump ship.  I've moved to other pools, but I still check the Slush forum daily--it's like a TV drama.  Even with all the negative talk, I still want to believe the Slush payout method balances over time.  As do all the methods, right?  Multiple methods of payout sometimes make me think of the huge retail businesses pushing products/brands/quantities that you can get no where else, so you can't compare the value of the product one is purchasing.  I've spent hours reading the payouts and the pools, and am still uncertain as to which is best for me.

In the end, Slush seems unstable to me as a 'customer' on the outside looking in.  Yet, my payout graph was very flat (consistent) when I was mining Slush.  It's all over (but probably averages) since trying other pools....

Totally agree!

More transparency could help, I guess.

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May 25, 2013, 06:02:44 AM
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Hashrate on Stratum interface (30 min average):   10445.839 Ghash/s (98%)
Approx. cluster performance (30 min average):   10596.366 Ghash/s

Is it me, or has the pool grown by about 700 GH/s in this last day. It was below 9800Gh/s 24 hrs ago.

It grew like it did the other day, it was 9000 yesterday but our luck must of attracted the asic zerg onto our pool. I noticed the last time that happened the pool had more long discovered blocks.

...that, or our pool miners asics are arriving!

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May 25, 2013, 06:12:53 AM
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Am familiar with UNIX/Linux and variants but using Windows7 to mine.
Edited c:/windows/system32/drivers/etc/hosts file, added list.  Can use ip1-9.slush.com now to specify IP.

# localhost name resolution is handled within DNS itself.
#   127.0.0.1       localhost

54.225.116.174      ip1.slush.com
54.225.117.74      ip2.slush.com
54.225.116.40      ip3.slush.com
54.215.3.101      ip4.slush.com
54.215.3.102      ip5.slush.com
54.225.116.221      ip6.slush.com
54.225.68.97      ip7.slush.com
54.215.3.103      ip8.slush.com
54.215.3.100      ip9.slush.com


Good job Wink

May be good, may be not quite qood.
Local IP mapping where a DNS round-robin load balancing is involved is fine in a static setup.
IIRC Amazon instances can be dynamic, so a suggested mapping is basically a snapshot of 'now' and will not react to changes.

1BUcKJVz5n34VwuiyiLtPud1PGn3BLkcPb  :-)
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May 25, 2013, 07:22:28 AM
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Can someone point to the ulimate pool config?
Where do you get that list of servers, how do you go about it in pool settings in cgminer and etc?
Did you figure it on your own, or there's a wiki or forum thread?

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May 25, 2013, 07:28:06 AM
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Not complicated.  Just needing this information.

http://stratum.bitcoinz.com (or stratum2 or stratum3)
your worker name
your worker password

Appearing like so in config file under pools:

   {
      "url" : "http://stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333",
      "user" : "rsbriggs.worker1",
      "pass" : "*******"
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First time running cgminer, it will prompt for URL, user, and password.  Please be learning by trying first, then asking questions if not understanding something.  Answers not useful if asker not first understanding question they asking.

Nearly all else in normal cgminer config file will depending on your graphics card hardware, being GPU related and not relevant.  Defaults in config file should be sufficient to start.  Anything else ASIC related needing, see file in cgminer directory:  ASIC-README.txt


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May 25, 2013, 08:09:05 AM
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I'm on slush for a month now,  but I monitor my disconnets and problems on my own.

Someone suggested cgwatcher in irc channel. Looks like it's all i need.

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May 25, 2013, 08:14:51 AM
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Come on Slush fix the pool. I did test move back to your pool with one miner and it is still jumping to backup pool. And there was no logging of shares for 16 minutes... If the block ended I would probably lost a lot. But they did all come back after 16 minutes so I don't know what was that... But it is not stable.
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