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nottm28
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February 17, 2014, 07:55:42 PM |
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Question for the experts.
If a block is found the pool apportions your share shortly after processing. If one leaves during the validation period it is my understanding they forfeit their share. The apportionment has already been factored so what happens to the portion they forfeited? Does it get redistributed to those who remain?
As soon as a block is found your share is secure. It doesn't matter if you stop mining while a block says 'processing', you will still get your share for that block. |
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necro_nemesis
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February 17, 2014, 08:06:39 PM |
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My account is currently showing 0 BTC unconfirmed rewards, yet according to the statistics page there are plenty of unconfirmed solved blocks that I should have been rewarded for.. What's up
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necro_nemesis
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February 17, 2014, 08:09:16 PM |
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As soon as a block is found your share is secure. It doesn't matter if you stop mining while a block says 'processing', you will still get your share for that block.
Thanks, I think the pools recent misbehavior led me to the wrong conclusion.  So if you get three strikes in a row, throw the dealer a tip and move to the next table.  Just kidding. |
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shazo
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February 17, 2014, 08:29:09 PM |
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Looks like at some point between me leaving for work and now I dropped from 8ghash/s to a little of 5ghash/s. I'm guessing I have a port going bad on my hub or that same antminer U1 stopped working again. If I was running as much as I have seen some run with the 49 port USB hubs or the 4 or 5 S1's I don't know if I could take it being stuck at work and not be able to see what's wrong. Maybe its best I don't get anymore.
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necro_nemesis
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February 17, 2014, 08:36:09 PM |
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Looks like at some point between me leaving for work and now I dropped from 8ghash/s to a little of 5ghash/s. I'm guessing I have a port going bad on my hub or that same antminer U1 stopped working again. If I was running as much as I have seen some run with the 49 port USB hubs or the 4 or 5 S1's I don't know if I could take it being stuck at work and not be able to see what's wrong. Maybe its best I don't get anymore.
Amongst other things out of whack the site appears to be reporting accepted shares low. Bfgminer is showing almost double what Slush is reporting on my rig. Likely your hardware is working up to par. |
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kabopar
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February 17, 2014, 09:37:35 PM |
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Looks like at some point between me leaving for work and now I dropped from 8ghash/s to a little of 5ghash/s. I'm guessing I have a port going bad on my hub or that same antminer U1 stopped working again. If I was running as much as I have seen some run with the 49 port USB hubs or the 4 or 5 S1's I don't know if I could take it being stuck at work and not be able to see what's wrong. Maybe its best I don't get anymore.
Amongst other things out of whack the site appears to be reporting accepted shares low. Bfgminer is showing almost double what Slush is reporting on my rig. Likely your hardware is working up to par. The share counts have just been reset on my Account page, which usually corresponds to a new block, however no block was found by Slush. The 'unconfirmed reward' is showing now (maybe fixing this is related to the shares reset). Note that the hash rates reported on Slush are "* The calculation is based on the number of shares so far, which may not be accurate for slow workers", so with the recent chopping and changing in the pool reporting, the hash rates reported are quite unrelated to your actual hash rates on your mining software. Cheers |
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shazo
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February 17, 2014, 09:44:45 PM |
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Looks like it is just the information on the site. I'm showing now 8.9ghash. I'm still going to check it when I get home.
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bspurloc
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February 17, 2014, 10:41:06 PM |
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I've been mining for over a year. always on Slush... I dont pay attention to things dont care about formulas and such maybe i forgot the 1 reason why I refuse to change...
So anyway I pointed 200gh/s at eligius to see how things compared over a 16 hour peroid it completed more blocks than slush of course and my total earned was 0.01394952 BTC
now looking at what I missed on slush that 200gh/s would have earned .03
SO why exactly would I leave slush?!?! each completed block on slush that 200gh/s earns .005x so as long as slush gets 2 blocks in 16 hours slush is better, get 3 blocks and way better...
I see Eligius is at 250% luck so why is Slush at 100% 3x more pay out... |
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nottm28
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February 17, 2014, 10:59:37 PM |
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I've been mining for over a year. always on Slush... I dont pay attention to things dont care about formulas and such maybe i forgot the 1 reason why I refuse to change...
So anyway I pointed 200gh/s at eligius to see how things compared over a 16 hour peroid it completed more blocks than slush of course and my total earned was 0.01394952 BTC
now looking at what I missed on slush that 200gh/s would have earned .03
SO why exactly would I leave slush?!?! each completed block on slush that 200gh/s earns .005x so as long as slush gets 2 blocks in 16 hours slush is better, get 3 blocks and way better...
I see Eligius is at 250% luck so why is Slush at 100% 3x more pay out... Clearly an unlucky lucky prediction - luck takes a while to settle... |
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bspurloc
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February 17, 2014, 11:07:26 PM |
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I've been mining for over a year. always on Slush... I dont pay attention to things dont care about formulas and such maybe i forgot the 1 reason why I refuse to change...
So anyway I pointed 200gh/s at eligius to see how things compared over a 16 hour peroid it completed more blocks than slush of course and my total earned was 0.01394952 BTC
now looking at what I missed on slush that 200gh/s would have earned .03
SO why exactly would I leave slush?!?! each completed block on slush that 200gh/s earns .005x so as long as slush gets 2 blocks in 16 hours slush is better, get 3 blocks and way better...
I see Eligius is at 250% luck so why is Slush at 100% 3x more pay out... Clearly an unlucky lucky prediction - luck takes a while to settle... I was thinking of doing what btc aficionados say to do, spanning your hardware across pools... but I just dont see how moving stuff off Slush can possibly increase payout. if 200gh/s is going to make 3x more on slush 1 day of complete bad luck on slush gets overcome by 1 day of flatness on Slush. Maybe I am missing something. I would leave one on Eligius longer but the websites own states state it wont get any better. am I missing something? |
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Darthswan
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February 17, 2014, 11:10:26 PM |
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I've been mining for over a year. always on Slush... I dont pay attention to things dont care about formulas and such maybe i forgot the 1 reason why I refuse to change...
So anyway I pointed 200gh/s at eligius to see how things compared over a 16 hour peroid it completed more blocks than slush of course and my total earned was 0.01394952 BTC
now looking at what I missed on slush that 200gh/s would have earned .03
SO why exactly would I leave slush?!?! each completed block on slush that 200gh/s earns .005x so as long as slush gets 2 blocks in 16 hours slush is better, get 3 blocks and way better...
I see Eligius is at 250% luck so why is Slush at 100% 3x more pay out... Clearly an unlucky lucky prediction - luck takes a while to settle... I was thinking of doing what btc aficionados say to do, spanning your hardware across pools... but I just dont see how moving stuff off Slush can possibly increase payout. if 200gh/s is going to make 3x more on slush 1 day of complete bad luck on slush gets overcome by 1 day of flatness on Slush. Maybe I am missing something. I would leave one on Eligius longer but the websites own states state it wont get any better. am I missing something? I have 4 miners spread across 3 pools. Just want some consistency |
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nottm28
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February 17, 2014, 11:44:34 PM
Last edit: February 17, 2014, 11:56:56 PM by nottm28 |
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I've been mining for over a year. always on Slush... I dont pay attention to things dont care about formulas and such maybe i forgot the 1 reason why I refuse to change...
So anyway I pointed 200gh/s at eligius to see how things compared over a 16 hour peroid it completed more blocks than slush of course and my total earned was 0.01394952 BTC
now looking at what I missed on slush that 200gh/s would have earned .03
SO why exactly would I leave slush?!?! each completed block on slush that 200gh/s earns .005x so as long as slush gets 2 blocks in 16 hours slush is better, get 3 blocks and way better...
I see Eligius is at 250% luck so why is Slush at 100% 3x more pay out... Clearly an unlucky lucky prediction - luck takes a while to settle... I was thinking of doing what btc aficionados say to do, spanning your hardware across pools... but I just dont see how moving stuff off Slush can possibly increase payout. if 200gh/s is going to make 3x more on slush 1 day of complete bad luck on slush gets overcome by 1 day of flatness on Slush. Maybe I am missing something. I would leave one on Eligius longer but the websites own states state it wont get any better. am I missing something? In the early days I worried and fretted and switched pools - tried nearly every one of them - switching daily/hourly sometimes. After all that I still point my miners at slush and stay here. 18 hour block - whatever. 5 sub one hour blocks hooray. In the long run this is the best pool and averages will average out so that you get more with slush. [EDIT] unconfirmed reward now showing correct - good job slush |
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necro_nemesis
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February 17, 2014, 11:44:42 PM
Last edit: February 18, 2014, 12:52:47 AM by necro_nemesis |
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Eligius' UI is terrible IMHO to the point of me avoiding it. Talk about being left in the dark, at least from my experience any time I've worked with it, it throws out some excuse for the information being inaccurate or unavailable. I get more useful information from Slush when it's completely dysfunctional. My accepted shares are 10% lower there also probably due to rejects from network latency likely some function of proximity or routing I suspect. If anyone is in a position to tweak the stratum protocol it's going to be slush. Spanning your hashes sounds like buying every security in the market yet expecting to outperform the market. It appears that things are up and running and all that remains are the adjustments for transactions # 21689 & 21690 (blocks 286296 and 286308 respectively) as mentioned on Facebook. https://m.facebook.com/MiningBitcoinCz?id=281453778607382&_rdrAll in all it looks like a predictably decent day and that's all I've hoped-for from mining. |
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bspurloc
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February 18, 2014, 02:38:51 AM |
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I've been mining for over a year. always on Slush... I dont pay attention to things dont care about formulas and such maybe i forgot the 1 reason why I refuse to change...
So anyway I pointed 200gh/s at eligius to see how things compared over a 16 hour peroid it completed more blocks than slush of course and my total earned was 0.01394952 BTC
now looking at what I missed on slush that 200gh/s would have earned .03
SO why exactly would I leave slush?!?! each completed block on slush that 200gh/s earns .005x so as long as slush gets 2 blocks in 16 hours slush is better, get 3 blocks and way better...
I see Eligius is at 250% luck so why is Slush at 100% 3x more pay out... Clearly an unlucky lucky prediction - luck takes a while to settle... I was thinking of doing what btc aficionados say to do, spanning your hardware across pools... but I just dont see how moving stuff off Slush can possibly increase payout. if 200gh/s is going to make 3x more on slush 1 day of complete bad luck on slush gets overcome by 1 day of flatness on Slush. Maybe I am missing something. I would leave one on Eligius longer but the websites own states state it wont get any better. am I missing something? In the early days I worried and fretted and switched pools - tried nearly every one of them - switching daily/hourly sometimes. After all that I still point my miners at slush and stay here. 18 hour block - whatever. 5 sub one hour blocks hooray. In the long run this is the best pool and averages will average out so that you get more with slush. [EDIT] unconfirmed reward now showing correct - good job slush Yeah I have no intention of leaving. I just have a massive amount of hashing power now and wanted to see what happened. Basically if u whine about long blocks and slush stats messups then leave for another pool and dont notice the drop in payouts you had to have failed at math. |
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necro_nemesis
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February 18, 2014, 03:36:55 AM |
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Did anyone effected during the rounds receive adjustments for transactions # 21689 & 21690 (blocks 286296 and 286308 respectively)?
Not that this discrepancy forms the basis of a life altering sum of money in my particular case.
I noticed with this latest block the stats sit in process for a lengthier time. Several confirmations and it hasn't arrived at the shares and rewards yet.
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kabopar
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February 18, 2014, 04:43:42 AM |
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Did anyone effected during the rounds receive adjustments for transactions # 21689 & 21690 (blocks 286296 and 286308 respectively)?
Not that this discrepancy forms the basis of a life altering sum of money in my particular case.
I noticed with this latest block the stats sit in process for a lengthier time. Several confirmations and it hasn't arrived at the shares and rewards yet.
My adjusted rewards for # 21689 & 21690 (blocks 286296 and 286308 respectively) looks correct (similar to other blocks and consistent with my hash rate and share proportion). I also noted that #21696 seems to stay 'forever' in the 'Processing...' phase, now about 1:30 hours. Cheers |
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February 18, 2014, 05:20:52 AM |
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Anyone have a good explanation as to what is actually happening when the block is " processing "?
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organofcorti
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February 18, 2014, 05:26:33 AM |
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Anyone have a good explanation as to what is actually happening when the block is " processing "?
Processed blocks have several technical advantages over natural blocks, including: far longer shelf-life; resistance to separating when cooked; and, a uniform look and physical behavior. Its mass-produced nature provides arguably its greatest advantage over natural blocks: a dramatically lower cost -- to producers and consumers, alike -- than conventional blockmaking. This is often due to ingredients that are more widely-varied and of simpler quality. This, in turn, enables industrial-scale production volumes, lower distribution costs, a steadier supply, and much faster production time (compared to natural blocks). |
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February 18, 2014, 05:30:36 AM |
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Anyone have a good explanation as to what is actually happening when the block is " processing "?
Processed blocks have several technical advantages over natural blocks, including: far longer shelf-life; resistance to separating when cooked; and, a uniform look and physical behavior. Its mass-produced nature provides arguably its greatest advantage over natural blocks: a dramatically lower cost -- to producers and consumers, alike -- than conventional blockmaking. This is often due to ingredients that are more widely-varied and of simpler quality. This, in turn, enables industrial-scale production volumes, lower distribution costs, a steadier supply, and much faster production time (compared to natural blocks). Looks like someone is bored  |
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eleuthria
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February 18, 2014, 05:32:47 AM |
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Processing is such a lame term. Reticulating Splines is much cooler.
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