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I'm proposing a dismantling of Devtome and a re-packaging of its content onto separate websites. These will be more reader friendly, more search engine friendly and more advertiser friendly.
That's the strength of Devtome, the content, and the 'packaging' of that content is very important.
No. Devtome will stay as it is because it takes more work to make several sites. You would need several websites, advertising accounts, rating runs, and maybe extra sign up admins and article admins. We don't have enough admins now even just for devtome. I'm covering the gaps we have, there's just not enough people to do more. In the future, if devcoin market capitalization ever reaches ten million, then we could look at somehow making sub sites or blog sites. Before that point there are a lot of other sites to make, for example for video, design, etc.. Agreed, we have to work with what we have, catch up on back logs and getting people to categorize their work or at least be guided to a best practices article; Making posters do a little more work for Devtome could really help things out and get the administrators working on moving things forward. So how do we implement original photography, painting, music and design share distribution? Is there a way to upload original audio content on Devtome? |
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November 26, 2013, 10:03:37 AM |
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Agreed, we have to work with what we have, catch up on back logs and getting people to categorize their work or at least be guided to a best practices article; Making posters do a little more work for Devtome could really help things out and get the administrators working on moving things forward.
So how do we implement original photography, painting, music and design share distribution?
Is there a way to upload original audio content on Devtome?
Not sure. There's a guide on how to upload image files here: How to post an imageI don't know about audio. The issue with music/art/design in particular is with 'open source'; defining and understanding exactly what that means - especially to the creator. There have been some discussions about it, e.g scroll down from this msg: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=193054.msg2010481#msg2010481As I understand it the plan is to roll out separate sites with varying focuses - the problem is the investment in time, resources and having enough people involved in vetting/checking work and maintaining quality. Then there's copyright. Devtome is open source which means we all have to be careful and take time to make sure no rights are contravened. With writing it takes time but it's doable. With images and music it's very much harder, which underlines a requirement to justify and demonstrate the existence of the open SOURCE. For example, photographs/images - it would be pretty quick and easy to upload anything I could get my hands on, but that could be either/both of zero value and without right - which is why number of images per article is limited in compensation for the time being. As with writing, those with more expertise in that area have come/are coming on board. With time and the motivation of similar portals I expect the equivalent with other forms. Someone correct me if I'm wrong on all that. |
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November 26, 2013, 02:05:04 PM |
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We should really be more careful with known scammers guys.
I probably should. The only problem is that here on the Bitcoin Forum, scam accusations are thick and pretty much everyone gets to be a scammer for 15 minutes, especially if something goes wrong. |
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November 26, 2013, 02:15:32 PM |
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I would agree in most cases wiser, but in realsolid's history its been more like 2 years of scamming.
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November 26, 2013, 02:24:03 PM |
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Nice jump. Thanks to those of you who dumped to me at 13 satoshis!  I dumped quite a few at 13-16, doh! :p Wow I didn't see it go that low I don't think. But I only trade on Vircurex. I have offers at every satoshi of price up and down. Seems maybe arbitrage wasn't working fast enough or something, in theory arbitrage is supposed to match the price across all exchanges. I am too suspicious of most exchanges though, seems like new fly by night exchanges were coming out regularly for a while. Even one that claimed to have a hack and paid off the supposedly affected users I was already so suspicious of (maybe they were the ones involved in the whole novacoin scam thing of somesuch, can't recall for sure) that I figured the hack probably never happened, that they were just saying that to try to gain some trust like VIrcurex did (Vircurex supposedly was hacked twice and both times made good to its customers. Notice the "supposedly" in all this though. Do we know for sure even Vircurex isn't just making it up to gain trust? Main reason I leave coins there is really because I already took out more profit than the coins I have left there... and still too the main reason I do it is because I feel a duty, as one of the initial developers of DeVCoin, to provide liquidity for the coin. "Someone has to do it" so it seemed like Unthinkingbit and I were the logical people to take the risk and do it.) Oh and lookie, that solidcoin scammer scammed again, a scam exchange, what a surprise, not. -MarkM- |
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November 26, 2013, 03:15:25 PM |
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Here's an interesting and somewhat philosophical question. Has Devcoin ever been used in a scam? I mean have there ever been Devcoin scammers and scams?
Considering what a lot of Bitcoins get used for (SR related stuff), I'm not surprised that there are so many scams out there, and even the ones that I wouldn't consider to be scams often times go bad anyway.
Devcoins may very well be a truly ethical currency on a number of levels, depending on the answer to the top set of questions in this post.
If there is something deeper going on here, that may be the best reason of all for us to hold onto and invest our Devcoins rather than trading them into Bitcoins.
Some food for thought for a Tuesday morning...
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November 26, 2013, 03:40:14 PM |
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Here's an interesting and somewhat philosophical question. Has Devcoin ever been used in a scam? I mean have there ever been Devcoin scammers and scams?
Considering what a lot of Bitcoins get used for (SR related stuff), I'm not surprised that there are so many scams out there, and even the ones that I wouldn't consider to be scams often times go bad anyway.
Devcoins may very well be a truly ethical currency on a number of levels, depending on the answer to the top set of questions in this post.
If there is something deeper going on here, that may be the best reason of all for us to hold onto and invest our Devcoins rather than trading them into Bitcoins.
Some food for thought for a Tuesday morning...
I don't know about devcoin - although the 'ethical' is about distribution rather than morals I think - but on the general point it's far simpler than that. RS did that simply because he could. The whole crypto world is so new that people aren't being logical in assessing price vs value - most is pure greed so it's easy to feed on that. SR/cryptos etc don't promote anything they facilitate it but it would go on anyway. The most interesting thing to me is how aggrieved people feel at losing in these sort of scams, yet don't seem to appreciate the underlying lack of security and risk of zero in a lot of blockchain currencies when an underlying incentive exists to control as much computational power devoted to mining as possible so long as my profit is >0. |
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November 26, 2013, 04:11:37 PM |
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Agreed, we have to work with what we have, catch up on back logs and getting people to categorize their work or at least be guided to a best practices article; Making posters do a little more work for Devtome could really help things out and get the administrators working on moving things forward.
So how do we implement original photography, painting, music and design share distribution?
Is there a way to upload original audio content on Devtome?
Not sure. There's a guide on how to upload image files here: How to post an imageI don't know about audio. The issue with music/art/design in particular is with 'open source'; defining and understanding exactly what that means - especially to the creator. There have been some discussions about it, e.g scroll down from this msg: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=193054.msg2010481#msg2010481As I understand it the plan is to roll out separate sites with varying focuses - the problem is the investment in time, resources and having enough people involved in vetting/checking work and maintaining quality. Then there's copyright. Devtome is open source which means we all have to be careful and take time to make sure no rights are contravened. With writing it takes time but it's doable. With images and music it's very much harder, which underlines a requirement to justify and demonstrate the existence of the open SOURCE. For example, photographs/images - it would be pretty quick and easy to upload anything I could get my hands on, but that could be either/both of zero value and without right - which is why number of images per article is limited in compensation for the time being. As with writing, those with more expertise in that area have come/are coming on board. With time and the motivation of similar portals I expect the equivalent with other forms. Someone correct me if I'm wrong on all that. Earlier I was mentioning providing hash based authenticated posts, set up a scrypt run it on google to make sure writing is automatically original. I know there are programs out there that check for plagiarism, colleges and universities use them to check students work, I'm sure there is an open source version to get started. Maybe well get lucky and someone has a opensource computer vision system to identify plagiarized images and works online, filter them out to help administrators. Just thinking out loud, anything just to spread the work load can work. someone may even come up with a scheme to implement it with all Devtome users; Is it really that much of a risk that someone will abuse their authority, put a giant dildo on the front page or something? |
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November 26, 2013, 06:33:51 PM |
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I've just downloaded and opened the Devcoin Wallet application on my MacBook Pro. I allowed it time to catch up and reboot so that all of my blocks are received and read in my wallet. However, when i go to Send Coin I am unable to type in a value in the Amount bar of that window. Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas as to what to do? Any help is greatly appreciated.
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November 27, 2013, 12:13:50 AM |
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I suggest a 12 share award for selling a gift card, phone card, or another kind of card if there is any, in devcoins. This would be for the first five different kinds of card, after that it would be 6 shares for the next five different kinds of card. Amazon and Visa are already available in devcoins. Any objections?
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November 27, 2013, 12:24:25 AM |
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I referred someone to download the devcoin wallet he wanted to buy some coins however on win 8 he said it was shutting down on him without warning. Also I
noticed that its built for 32 bit.. is there a 64 bit wallet out? It should be added to the main download portals.
Also why is the wallet still showing bitcoin? Thought someone did a rename a while back??? cmon guys these are the basics we need to pick our game up.. either give testers some shares or hire proper admin developers!!
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November 27, 2013, 01:06:07 AM |
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Yeah I agree with the above.
we need a best practices for suggesting bounties, Fin brought it up a while ago, but it is a community effort after all, so people got to suggest things let the admins decide how valuable it is; If no one does this how will we know where to apply our efforts effectively?
Community ballots, community bounties... where do we post personal devcoin bounties? that can help diversify things as well. How much will it cost me to get something done for the community?
I propose bounties for a community bounty job board and a job tracking system for common community, website, forum maintenance and development tasks according to how often these actions need to be taken on a hourly, daily, monthly or best practices policy for community members basis.
This could help make visible what needs the attention of people instead of just guessing, we need to see the whole picture of what is going on, what needs to be done, and who is working on what without having to micromanage queries... just all the info everyone needs in an easy to find, easy to follow format.
Just the foundations... we need to work on the foundation for future growth.
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November 27, 2013, 03:15:04 AM |
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Yeah I agree with the above.
we need a best practices for suggesting bounties, Fin brought it up a while ago, but it is a community effort after all, so people got to suggest things let the admins decide how valuable it is; If no one does this how will we know where to apply our efforts effectively?
Community ballots, community bounties... where do we post personal devcoin bounties? that can help diversify things as well. How much will it cost me to get something done for the community?
I propose bounties for a community bounty job board and a job tracking system for common community, website, forum maintenance and development tasks according to how often these actions need to be taken on a hourly, daily, monthly or best practices policy for community members basis.
This could help make visible what needs the attention of people instead of just guessing, we need to see the whole picture of what is going on, what needs to be done, and who is working on what without having to micromanage queries... just all the info everyone needs in an easy to find, easy to follow format.
Just the foundations... we need to work on the foundation for future growth.
ya I have a similar vision but as of now only investors will be active in suggesting bounties in the end investment is what drives price.. as more bounties get complete the more ppl will want to invest in dvc. Since bounties will be paid by current imvestors older investers have a vested interest of suggesting quality bounties. Right now we arent getting devs do bounties because bounty shares dont scale to demand and no equilibrium is found. I feel because investors dont have to pay directly for bointies we should have a more active bounty request service than would otherwise with something like workforcrypto.com where bounties are suggested only by those directly willing to pay. This idea is the same but more scalable because they invest hold and suggest instead of suggest and pay... its a revolutionary way to get work done that will benefit all... later on individuals can always pay for work traditionally via dvc on something like workforcrypto.com. First of all we need a better official dvc homepage with all downloads etc look at quarkcoin it was same price as dvc now its almost 100x higher this month... If we create a bounty for a site and tie in a bounty subsystem into the homepage somehow we can hit a homerun here. A system that lets admin signups for bounties and devs signup ofcourse with scalable bounty payments. This will only be possible if we change share allocation.. we have to lean out the reciever files and add whats needed remove the excess it is not efficient right now. |
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November 27, 2013, 08:17:44 AM |
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I referred someone to download the devcoin wallet he wanted to buy some coins however on win 8 he said it was shutting down on him without warning. Also I
noticed that its built for 32 bit.. is there a 64 bit wallet out? It should be added to the main download portals.
Also why is the wallet still showing bitcoin? Thought someone did a rename a while back??? cmon guys these are the basics we need to pick our game up.. either give testers some shares or hire proper admin developers!!
I have the 32 bit version running on windows (vista) and it's labelled/logoed devcoin. Notabot - agreed. 'Cryptoaddicto' - don't know what your bctalk handle is but could you help by categorising your recent articles. I did some but there are a lot. |
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November 27, 2013, 10:02:49 AM |
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I want to backup my wallet, how do I do that?
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November 27, 2013, 10:13:52 AM |
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I want to backup my wallet, how do I do that?
Just COPY over the wallet.dat file. e.g. if you're on windows path will be something like: C:\Users\yourname\appdata\Roaming\Devcoin\wallet.dat or %appdata%\Devcoin It's also a good idea to also do this before encrypting. |
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November 27, 2013, 10:16:04 AM |
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Is the recent dvc payment from devtome advertising? If so good work - plan coming together.
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November 27, 2013, 10:57:03 AM |
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I referred someone to download the devcoin wallet he wanted to buy some coins however on win 8 he said it was shutting down on him without warning. Also I
noticed that its built for 32 bit.. is there a 64 bit wallet out? It should be added to the main download portals.
Also why is the wallet still showing bitcoin? Thought someone did a rename a while back??? cmon guys these are the basics we need to pick our game up.. either give testers some shares or hire proper admin developers!!
The windows bundles here http://devcoin.org/ say Devcoin, and have the Devcoin logo - I am pretty sure  I have seen it with my own eyes. Also see here: http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoinTo reinstall Devcoin correctly your friend will have to go into App Data and remove all DVC files (and make up a backup of their wallet DAT if they have any DVC in there or are currently using the address). Also, there is a free DVC web wallet at CEX.IO - they should be introducing DVC/BTC trading soon EDIT: Please also see this thread for detailed instructions; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129563.0 |
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