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October 12, 2013, 06:43:28 PM
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My devtome user: mrc is not present in any list from github (csv or py).
Have I done something wrong?


Could be related to your page: http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:mrc

You have an admin message at the top...


 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




















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October 12, 2013, 07:23:20 PM
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Thank You for support,
The message was solved a few days ago, didn't deleted it ... I don't know why... hierarchy? ... submission? ... I'm too noob?

Anyway, Thanks again, sorry, this is not the reason...
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October 12, 2013, 08:14:40 PM
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I'm not sure but does CoinBucks count towards the three share bounty for non-mining businesses?  If yes I will make a formal post so that Unthinkingbit can add it to the bounty list.

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October 12, 2013, 08:20:59 PM
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About Devtome I think it would be a good idea to add a polling system and a forum into the site so we can all congregate there.

A polling system with historical data can be very useful to  funnel all ideas and suggestions into a listable stack, with ratings on ideas to move them up or down the priority list. We are a little disorganized at the moment it is good to have a forum of our own to develop a concensus to build these ideas.

On the devtome site it would be good for people to create some movement within the devcoin community to rate works, authors, groups more fairly is to pay to rate.  If you like their work you give them 100 if not 1 devcoin maybe more for the author who created a great series of works.

This way we promote and encourage the community to continue writing, it also makes it easy to find constructive comments, if it is only 1 Devcoin consider it, but read the ones with more given. The amount given would be listed on Devtome; The total given to particular works and to authors and groups but the Devcoins would go to the address provided by the author or authors.

It would even be nice to attach bounties to the ideas and suggestions given, maybe a scripted transaction that accepts coins for a bounty signalling to others the importance of the project besides the rating system for polling, it may be important but how much will it take to incentivise someone to do it? If the bounty is met it gets released to the winner(s).

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October 12, 2013, 08:31:48 PM
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My devtome user: mrc is not present in any list from github (csv or py).
Have I done something wrong?

Thanks for catching that, I forgot to add you to the list. I ran devtome manually for you, added you to the devtome 28 list, updated the devtome earnings post, and sent you 23 devcoins to test the address.

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October 12, 2013, 08:35:22 PM
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I'm not sure but does CoinBucks count towards the three share bounty for non-mining businesses?  If yes I will make a formal post so that Unthinkingbit can add it to the bounty list.

I didn't see a post about someone buying CoinBucks. If or when there is, then post that they got the 3 share bounty, and that the poster gets the 2 share bounty.

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October 12, 2013, 08:43:59 PM
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So I only got 17,000 words counted? How is this possible? Is there a negator or just a multiplier?

I wrote at least 50,000 words... and got this
FinShaggy,1Cz5aivRFToakTozfch7iZXSY2YBwd9qQZ,17-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:FinShaggy)

And I was writing stuff that is at least good enough to be college essays. Many people think that I am writing these for school (I've been sharing pieces on other places to get people excited about my book), but I am just doing it to write a book.

I am not complaining, just wondering if this is right.

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October 12, 2013, 08:44:28 PM
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@Unthinkingbit: Thank You very much.
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October 12, 2013, 08:47:55 PM
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And is there a place where we can see our ratings?

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October 12, 2013, 09:04:02 PM
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So I only got 17,000 words counted? How is this possible? Is there a negator or just a multiplier?

I wrote at least 50,000 words... and got this
FinShaggy,1Cz5aivRFToakTozfch7iZXSY2YBwd9qQZ,17-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:FinShaggy)

And I was writing stuff that is at least good enough to be college essays. Many people think that I am writing these for school (I've been sharing pieces on other places to get people excited about my book), but I am just doing it to write a book.

I am not complaining, just wondering if this is right.

Your base payout was 32. Multiplier was 0.534xxxx. This brought you to 17.

For clarification, you have 121,453 words. Your cumulative payout was 89. This is what led to 32.


 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




















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October 12, 2013, 09:06:14 PM
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So I only got 17,000 words counted? How is this possible? Is there a negator or just a multiplier?

I wrote at least 50,000 words... and got this
FinShaggy,1Cz5aivRFToakTozfch7iZXSY2YBwd9qQZ,17-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:FinShaggy)

And I was writing stuff that is at least good enough to be college essays. Many people think that I am writing these for school (I've been sharing pieces on other places to get people excited about my book), but I am just doing it to write a book.

I am not complaining, just wondering if this is right.

Your base payout was 32. Multiplier was 0.534xxxx. This brought you to 17.

For clarification, you have 121,453 words. Your cumulative payout was 89. This is what led to 32.

Where can the multiplier be viewed?

Also, here is a devcoin business listing page for those who are interested: http://gotdevcoin.tk/

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October 12, 2013, 09:10:13 PM
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So I only got 17,000 words counted? How is this possible? Is there a negator or just a multiplier?

I wrote at least 50,000 words... and got this
FinShaggy,1Cz5aivRFToakTozfch7iZXSY2YBwd9qQZ,17-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:FinShaggy)

And I was writing stuff that is at least good enough to be college essays. Many people think that I am writing these for school (I've been sharing pieces on other places to get people excited about my book), but I am just doing it to write a book.

I am not complaining, just wondering if this is right.

Your base payout was 32. Multiplier was 0.534xxxx. This brought you to 17.

For clarification, you have 121,453 words. Your cumulative payout was 89. This is what led to 32.

32? Where is 32?

And does this mean I wrote 121,000 words and NONE of it is carrying over to next round? And I get paid 17 shares for all of it?

I'm really confused.

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October 12, 2013, 09:39:38 PM
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So I only got 17,000 words counted? How is this possible? Is there a negator or just a multiplier?

I wrote at least 50,000 words... and got this
FinShaggy,1Cz5aivRFToakTozfch7iZXSY2YBwd9qQZ,17-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:FinShaggy)

And I was writing stuff that is at least good enough to be college essays. Many people think that I am writing these for school (I've been sharing pieces on other places to get people excited about my book), but I am just doing it to write a book.

I am not complaining, just wondering if this is right.

Your base payout was 32. Multiplier was 0.534xxxx. This brought you to 17.

For clarification, you have 121,453 words. Your cumulative payout was 89. This is what led to 32.

32? Where is 32?

And does this mean I wrote 121,000 words and NONE of it is carrying over to next round? And I get paid 17 shares for all of it?

I'm really confused.

121,453 rounds down to 121,000. This is 121 shares. You've already been paid for 89 of those shares. 121 - 89 = 32 unpaid. Your multiplier was 0.534x. 0.534*32 = 17. Therefore you have 17 shares.

In other words, in the last round you wrote a total of 32,000-32,999 words.


 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




















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October 12, 2013, 09:40:58 PM
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So I only got 17,000 words counted? How is this possible? Is there a negator or just a multiplier?

I wrote at least 50,000 words... and got this
FinShaggy,1Cz5aivRFToakTozfch7iZXSY2YBwd9qQZ,17-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:FinShaggy)

And I was writing stuff that is at least good enough to be college essays. Many people think that I am writing these for school (I've been sharing pieces on other places to get people excited about my book), but I am just doing it to write a book.

I am not complaining, just wondering if this is right.

Your base payout was 32. Multiplier was 0.534xxxx. This brought you to 17.

For clarification, you have 121,453 words. Your cumulative payout was 89. This is what led to 32.

Where can the multiplier be viewed?

Also, here is a devcoin business listing page for those who are interested: http://gotdevcoin.tk/

Unthinkingbit linked the multipliers yesterday. Everything you need is right here:

https://raw.github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/master/devtome_earnings_28.csv


 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




















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October 12, 2013, 09:48:57 PM
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So I only got 17,000 words counted? How is this possible? Is there a negator or just a multiplier?

I wrote at least 50,000 words... and got this
FinShaggy,1Cz5aivRFToakTozfch7iZXSY2YBwd9qQZ,17-Word Count(http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:user:FinShaggy)

And I was writing stuff that is at least good enough to be college essays. Many people think that I am writing these for school (I've been sharing pieces on other places to get people excited about my book), but I am just doing it to write a book.

I am not complaining, just wondering if this is right.

Your base payout was 32. Multiplier was 0.534xxxx. This brought you to 17.

For clarification, you have 121,453 words. Your cumulative payout was 89. This is what led to 32.

32? Where is 32?

And does this mean I wrote 121,000 words and NONE of it is carrying over to next round? And I get paid 17 shares for all of it?

I'm really confused.

121,453 rounds down to 121,000. This is 121 shares. You've already been paid for 89 of those shares. 121 - 89 = 32 unpaid. Your multiplier was 0.534x. 0.534*32 = 17. Therefore you have 17 shares.

In other words, in the last round you wrote a total of 32,000-32,999 words.

Ok, that makes more sense. But I'm still confused about 2 things.
1 I'm pretty positive I wrote over 50,000 words this round
2 how I wrote multiple articles that get praise outside this site, but aren't worth their weight in Devcoins.

It's not a big deal, I've got enough words now to go earn money on Amazon soon, but I just don't think it makes much sense.

I'm still going to write here, as it is the only coin besides bitcoin that I believe in, but this really bums me out.

Especially since I think I wrote more than 50,000 words. I'm google word counting now.

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October 12, 2013, 10:00:11 PM
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Again, not complaining as I am getting paid, just checking on if maybe I am getting round 27 counted 2x instead of my round 28 work.

I just copied and pasted my words, I didn't even count ALL of them yet, and I'm at 50,125 for round 28 and I only got 32 counted, then that got cut in half...

If you want to copy and paste to see yourself, here:

http://finshaggy.blogspot.com/2013/10/my-devtome-round-28-words.html
http://www.wordcounter.net/

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October 12, 2013, 10:13:42 PM
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Again, not complaining as I am getting paid, just checking on if maybe I am getting round 27 counted 2x instead of my round 28 work.

I just copied and pasted my words, I didn't even count ALL of them yet, and I'm at 50,125 for round 28 and I only got 32 counted, then that got cut in half...

If you want to copy and paste to see yourself, here:

http://finshaggy.blogspot.com/2013/10/my-devtome-round-28-words.html
http://www.wordcounter.net/

It's possible that the script is adding the last multiplier to the paid...

Ex.

You had 50 shares last round. You had a multiplier of 1.5x. You then got paid 75 shares.
You wrote 50 shares this round. This leaves your base total at 100. You were paid 75 so 25 base left. Multiplier 1.5x again pays 37.5 instead of 75.

I'm wondering if that isn't how the script is running (erroneously at that).


 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




















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October 12, 2013, 10:16:58 PM
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Again, not complaining as I am getting paid, just checking on if maybe I am getting round 27 counted 2x instead of my round 28 work.

I just copied and pasted my words, I didn't even count ALL of them yet, and I'm at 50,125 for round 28 and I only got 32 counted, then that got cut in half...

If you want to copy and paste to see yourself, here:

http://finshaggy.blogspot.com/2013/10/my-devtome-round-28-words.html
http://www.wordcounter.net/

It's possible that the script is adding the last multiplier to the paid...

Ex.

You had 50 shares last round. You had a multiplier of 1.5x. You then got paid 75 shares.
You wrote 50 shares this round. This leaves your base total at 100. You were paid 75 so 25 base left. Multiplier 1.5x again pays 37.5 instead of 75.

I'm wondering if that isn't how the script is running (erroneously at that).

That makes sense. That sucks though.

Oh well. I wish there was a way to make sure no one could check and see who's article they are rating, I am almost positive I got bad ratings just for bringing people to Devtome, being active on the thread in the past and writing so much... But I only wrote a lot in 2 rounds EVER, this one and my first one. I don't see how people think I am writing too much when I have only been really active for 2 rounds.

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October 12, 2013, 10:37:43 PM
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So I am still unclear -- sorry to be such a noob.

I had ~ over 71,000 words. So 40-Word Count means 40 shares. Does that mean my "earnings multiplier" is ~ .56? So when it says "an unpopular writer will get 0.75 generation shares per thousand words" I am significantly below that? I see.  Embarrassed

I thought there would be some lag between the time that the round is closed and the time when the multiplier is calculated. I'm not sure why... I guess since payouts are delayed as they are. So if you post things at the very end of a round (the total traffic received will be much lower), that will likely drag your multiplier way down?

I'm going to try to keep with it, but this is discouraging. I had no idea my writing would be worth so little (relative to other writers). I was excited about this project, but I may just engage in it on sort of a "back-burner" basis. Producing well-written articles/works is just too much work if I get paid 56% of what the "average" writer gets paid. No complaints... I understand the rationale for the multiplier. Just don't know if it's worth it. I'm not an online marketer.
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October 12, 2013, 11:28:35 PM
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So I only got 17,000 words counted? How is this possible? Is there a negator or just a multiplier?

As Ranlo wrote, your multiplier in:
https://raw.github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/master/devtome_28.csv

is 0.534 which turned 32,000 words to 17 shares. However, when I looked over the warnings, I also saw that your article:
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=finshaggy_s_autobiography:

was not counted because it's not in the root namespace:
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=earn_devcoins_by_writing#namespace

please title it:
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=finshaggy_s_autobiography

then message me and I'll rerun devtome for everyone.


It turns out dokuwiki cuts our everything after the a question make in the title, so your article link:
"What Do You Think About The AfterLife? Please Share Your Thoughts"

actually goes to:
"What Do You Think About The AfterLife?"

so I added a check in devtome.py to follow the dokuwiki title cut. You don't have to change that.

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Right now, the earnings multiplier is based solely on popularity per word. In round 29 the multiplier will also be based on ratings.

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I am not complaining, just wondering if this is right.

Thanks for bringing this up.

I'm sorry for not checking the warning log. The warning log is experimental, I just added it last round, and it brings up many false positives so I ended up ignoring it because I was in a hurry. In the next couple of hours I'll make it more informative so I can see which are real warnings then I'll rerun devtome for everyone.

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