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November 23, 2013, 01:17:22 AM
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As per Unthinkingbits Bounty Evaluation guidelines at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=233997.msg3658756#msg3658756  I would like to propose a bounty for an Android devcoin wallet.

Presently I am using a Goldcoin (GLD) wallet to spread awareness of virtual currencies. It only takes a few minutes for some one to download the wallet app, and for me to scan their QR code and send them some coins. This would be a big step for devcoin. It would allow us all to tip anyone anywhere anytime. I will put my money where my mouth is, I pledge 300,000 devcoins towards this, whether or not there is an official bounty. It has to work like the Goldcoin wallet (identical to the btc, ltc, ftc wallet), with QR codes, back up keys, etc.
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That would be great, it would take a lot of work so I suggest a 48 share bounty for the first devcoin wallet like the Goldcoin wallet, then 24 shares for the second wallet. It must be a native Android application, not devcoin running on Linux running on Android like what Weisoq mentioned:

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There was a start on android compatability here: http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin_android (although not really what you're talking about, I'm listing it in case it helps anyone develop things further).

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November 23, 2013, 01:25:50 AM
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Well, if anyone can suggest a bounty then I will to!

I propose a 12 share bounty for a devcoin exchange and marketplace, sort of like bitmit except you can deposit bitcoin or litecoin and trade them for devcoin.

I agree, if there's no objections in four days this will go into force. I think it's going to be a bit harder than a 12 share bounty, so I suggest 18 shares, then 9 for the second one.

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I'm working on adding it to tagcoin exchange... many different fiat's can be deposited (FinCen regulated) and tagcoin/bitcoin/devcoin would be traded.

That's another good way of implementing it. Any reasonable devcoin exchange gets the bounty.

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I'm proposing a dismantling of Devtome and a re-packaging of its content onto separate websites.  These will be more reader friendly, more search engine friendly and more advertiser friendly. 

That's the strength of Devtome, the content, and the 'packaging' of that content is very important.

No. Devtome will stay as it is because it takes more work to make several sites. You would need several websites, advertising accounts, rating runs, and maybe extra sign up admins and article admins. We don't have enough admins now even just for devtome. I'm covering the gaps we have, there's just not enough people to do more.

In the future, if devcoin market capitalization ever reaches ten million, then we could look at somehow making sub sites or blog sites. Before that point there are a lot of other sites to make, for example for video, design, etc..

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November 23, 2013, 10:36:26 AM
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No. Devtome will stay as it is because it takes more work to make several sites. You would need several websites, advertising accounts, rating runs, and maybe extra sign up admins and article admins. We don't have enough admins now even just for devtome. I'm covering the gaps we have, there's just not enough people to do more.

In the future, if devcoin market capitalization ever reaches ten million, then we could look at somehow making sub sites or blog sites. Before that point there are a lot of other sites to make, for example for video, design, etc..

Some thoughts - 2 ideas:

1) The simplest thing would be to develop upon the exisiting Devcoin.org as a fuller information source, akin to bitcoin.org/bitcoin wiki - with updated links and information. There'd be little/no contention as (bar collective effort stuff) it would be devcoin related only. But that could still encompass links on businesses, marketing, companies, gaming, OTransactions that cross the crypto spectrum.

The fundamental rationale being it would offer a better initial portal to Devcoin and Devtome. To date the majority of interest in cryptocurrencies is by those interested in cryptocurrencies, who are more likely to refer to a specific site tailored to e-money than to a broader site. It would then be a pivot towards naturally highlighting Devtome etc for those who want to know more. That sort of migration is something that's increasingly difficult via Devtome (due to breadth) and this thread (due to the number of threads/alts/posts).

2) Edit - I feel this just isn't going to happen is it, but I'll say it anyway: Leaving devtome as is then creating a new Crypto focused blog site. There would be no requirement for new ratings/vetting because content would just be lifted from Devtome where it was appropriate and focused. Already some of the Devtome content emenates from blogs, so there cannot be any principled objection to the principle of cross-referral (perhaps in practice). The difference here would be in reverse. It would allow an opportunity to experiment, to trial and error formats/styles/views/advertising without taking anything away from the pre-existence of Devtome as the repository of origin. I think this is particularly relevant as all Devtome content is already open-source.

The effort would perhaps only have to cost an initial reasonable bounty with the pre-requisite being it stands or falls on self-funding revenue. That could be done one of 3 ways, or a mixture of them: i) Those interested in having their writings added pay the administrator to do so; ii) The administrator receives a % of revenue to maintain it; ii) Advertising revenue only. Whatever the choice, if revenue is inadequate to support continued maintenance then it folds naturally through lack of interest and we have a better assessment of inherent value. So yes that would require at least one subjective view on quality and relevance but if anyone was interested enough to try it could be funded whereby that person is also tied-in to only mutual success as driver for article selection. That means it's just an 'add-on' that could maybe catalyse those parties whose writings are incorporated - again just a means of trying things out to see if they work or not. I don't know how prospective revenue sources would respond to this dynamic - although if the existing remit of Devtome as a source for writings found elsewhere works I can't see how the reverse couldn't.

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I'm proposing a dismantling of Devtome and a re-packaging of its content onto separate websites.  These will be more reader friendly, more search engine friendly and more advertiser friendly. 

That's the strength of Devtome, the content, and the 'packaging' of that content is very important.

No. Devtome will stay as it is because it takes more work to make several sites. You would need several websites, advertising accounts, rating runs, and maybe extra sign up admins and article admins. We don't have enough admins now even just for devtome. I'm covering the gaps we have, there's just not enough people to do more.

In the future, if devcoin market capitalization ever reaches ten million, then we could look at somehow making sub sites or blog sites. Before that point there are a lot of other sites to make, for example for video, design, etc..


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No. Devtome will stay as it is because it takes more work to make several sites. You would need several websites, advertising accounts, rating runs, and maybe extra sign up admins and article admins. We don't have enough admins now even just for devtome. I'm covering the gaps we have, there's just not enough people to do more.

In the future, if devcoin market capitalization ever reaches ten million, then we could look at somehow making sub sites or blog sites. Before that point there are a lot of other sites to make, for example for video, design, etc..

Some thoughts - 2 ideas:

1) The simplest thing would be to develop upon the exisiting Devcoin.org as a fuller information source, akin to bitcoin.org/bitcoin wiki - with updated links and information. There'd be little/no contention as (bar collective effort stuff) it would be devcoin related only. But that could still encompass links on businesses, marketing, companies, gaming, OTransactions that cross the crypto spectrum.

The fundamental rationale being it would offer a better initial portal to Devcoin and Devtome. To date the majority of interest in cryptocurrencies is by those interested in cryptocurrencies, who are more likely to refer to a specific site tailored to e-money than to a broader site. It would then be a pivot towards naturally highlighting Devtome etc for those who want to know more. That sort of migration is something that's increasingly difficult via Devtome (due to breadth) and this thread (due to the number of threads/alts/posts).

2) Edit - I feel this just isn't going to happen is it, but I'll say it anyway: Leaving devtome as is then creating a new Crypto focused blog site. There would be no requirement for new ratings/vetting because content would just be lifted from Devtome where it was appropriate and focused. Already some of the Devtome content emenates from blogs, so there cannot be any principled objection to the principle of cross-referral (perhaps in practice). The difference here would be in reverse. It would allow an opportunity to experiment, to trial and error formats/styles/views/advertising without taking anything away from the pre-existence of Devtome as the repository of origin. I think this is particularly relevant as all Devtome content is already open-source.

The effort would perhaps only have to cost an initial reasonable bounty with the pre-requisite being it stands or falls on self-funding revenue. That could be done one of 3 ways, or a mixture of them: i) Those interested in having their writings added pay the administrator to do so; ii) The administrator receives a % of revenue to maintain it; ii) Advertising revenue only. Whatever the choice, if revenue is inadequate to support continued maintenance then it folds naturally through lack of interest and we have a better assessment of inherent value. So yes that would require at least one subjective view on quality and relevance but if anyone was interested enough to try it could be funded whereby that person is also tied-in to only mutual success as driver for article selection. That means it's just an 'add-on' that could maybe catalyse those parties whose writings are incorporated - again just a means of trying things out to see if they work or not. I don't know how prospective revenue sources would respond to this dynamic - although if the existing remit of Devtome as a source for writings found elsewhere works I can't see how the reverse couldn't.

+1 The crypto site would be nice. I feel it is alot of work reorganizing devtome let alone pulling info to create a new stylized web hub. However coupled with my proposed change on how bouties are administered and paid I think anything is actually possible. If we simply say hey I will throw in 300k dvc and dvc is still falling in value I doubt we will find anyone to do a good job.. like always.

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November 23, 2013, 10:43:08 PM
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We are having a few new more inventive attacks on the site (ever since we shut off registration). Here and there you may notice a brief outage, just refresh your page and you should be back on. I am working on a solution.

93.115.84.195 is the IP that is launching the attack.

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November 24, 2013, 02:06:49 AM
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The round 29 receiver files have been uploaded to:
http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/receiver_29.csv
http://devcoinpool.btc-music.com/receiver/receiver_29.csv
http://devcoinblockexplorer.info/receiver/receiver_29.csv
http://devtome.com/files/receiver_29.csv
http://devcoin.darkgamex.ch/receiver_29.csv
http://d.evco.in/receiver/receiver_29.csv
http://show-me-the-devcoin.info/devtome/receiver_29.csv
http://coinfaucets.tk/receiver_29.csv
http://creativecurrencies.cu.cc/wp-content/uploads/receiver_29.csv

The account file is at:
http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/account_29.csv

There were 369 original receiver lines, so the average number of devcoins per share is 180,000,000 dvc / 369 = 487,805 dvc. Administrator pay is 45.0 shares, 12.2 percent of the total. The value at vircurex is 0.195 mcbtc/dvc, which works out to 0.0951 btc. This times the bitstamp price of 805$ gives a share price of 77$.

People on that list will start getting those coins in round 29, starting at block 116,000. The procedure for generating the receiver files is at:
http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin#generating_the_files

The next bounties will go into round 30:
https://raw.github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/master/bounty_30.csv

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November 24, 2013, 09:36:35 PM
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Hey guys

Just in case you hadn't heard - Bitcoin cloud mining platform CEX.IO is going to start trading DVC/BTC on their exchange (where you can buy and sell ASIC mining shares, BTC and NMC at the moment).

This is absolutely great news and bodes well for the future! We mentioned it briefly in a write up of CEX.IO: http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/anyone-can-mine-bitcoin-from-anywhere-with-revolutionary-bitcoin-asic-cloud-mining-platform-cex-io/

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November 24, 2013, 09:53:00 PM
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Hey guys

Just in case you hadn't heard - Bitcoin cloud mining platform CEX.IO is going to start trading DVC/BTC on their exchange (where you can buy and sell ASIC mining shares, BTC and NMC at the moment).

This is absolutely great news and bodes well for the future! We mentioned it briefly in a write up of CEX.IO: http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/anyone-can-mine-bitcoin-from-anywhere-with-revolutionary-bitcoin-asic-cloud-mining-platform-cex-io/

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This is very nice news. Thanks for sharing Smiley
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November 24, 2013, 11:49:26 PM
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What are the predictions for Devcoins so far? How has it been holding up and do you guys see it reaching at least .10 in the future? Im thinking of investing a little bit.
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November 25, 2013, 12:22:56 AM
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So, following the rules to register on DevTome, I sent a PM to Worldinacoin and presented myself. This was two days ago. Does it take that long to register? Thanks.

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November 25, 2013, 12:23:50 AM
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DeVCoin is designed to be worth less than 1/1000th of what "normal" coins that only create 50 coins per block, a block per ten minutes, are worth.

So in the long run maybe it will tend to be worth about 1000 DeVCoins per GRouPcoin.

Since BiTCoin produces less than 50 coins per block it should tend to be worth more than 1000 DeVCoins per coin.

(DeVCoin produces 50,000 coins per block forever, GRouPcoin produces 50 coins per block forever, BiTCoin halves coins per block periodically.)

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November 25, 2013, 03:09:30 AM
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Hey guys

Just in case you hadn't heard - Bitcoin cloud mining platform CEX.IO is going to start trading DVC/BTC on their exchange (where you can buy and sell ASIC mining shares, BTC and NMC at the moment).

This is absolutely great news and bodes well for the future! We mentioned it briefly in a write up of CEX.IO: http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/anyone-can-mine-bitcoin-from-anywhere-with-revolutionary-bitcoin-asic-cloud-mining-platform-cex-io/

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No problem Wink The trade volume on the exchange there is quite decent (and it's an awesome place to cloud mine - they currently pay out merge mined coins NMC, IXC as well as DVC ontop of the BTC mining) - I think it is one of the more professional services to appear for a while. When DVC starts trading there it's going to be exciting times  Wink

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Hey guys

Just in case you hadn't heard - Bitcoin cloud mining platform CEX.IO is going to start trading DVC/BTC on their exchange (where you can buy and sell ASIC mining shares, BTC and NMC at the moment).

This is absolutely great news and bodes well for the future! We mentioned it briefly in a write up of CEX.IO: http://bitcoinprbuzz.com/anyone-can-mine-bitcoin-from-anywhere-with-revolutionary-bitcoin-asic-cloud-mining-platform-cex-io/

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No problem Wink The trade volume on the exchange there is quite decent (and it's an awesome place to cloud mine - they currently pay out merge mined coins NMC, IXC as well as DVC ontop of the BTC mining) - I think it is one of the more professional services to appear for a while. When DVC starts trading there it's going to be exciting times  Wink

I was actually really excited to see that you could buy hashing power directly with Namecoins (because I don't have anything else to do with the Namecoins that I merge mine there).  I asked them when they would be setting it up to where you could buy hashing power with Devcoins and Ixcoins as well, but they said they weren't planning to do that yet.  I hope that changes.  But if you can trade DVC for BTC right there then it would just be a two step process to turn DVC into hashing power.  I also like how the price for a GHz has been pretty stable (even through at least one difficulty rise) so I feel like I am likely to be able to sell it for more or less what I paid for when I get bored with mining Wink

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November 25, 2013, 11:53:38 AM
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So, following the rules to register on DevTome, I sent a PM to Worldinacoin and presented myself. This was two days ago. Does it take that long to register? Thanks.


Welcome. We all get busy from time to time. Have you been signed up yet?

Thanks for replying.
No email and no PM so far, so I assume I'm not signed up yet...

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November 25, 2013, 01:38:36 PM
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I put a list together for another thread asking about various coin's rationales/merchants. Posting below and think it might be handy to have an updated list (including businesses transacting via coinpayments) so please post anything I've missed:

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Amazonia Imports: http://btcpipeshop.com
Computer hardware and consumer electronics: http://brownboxtech.net/
Asic Miner DVC Passthrough: https://cryptostocks.com/securities/39
Precious Metals: www.igotspots.com/dvc
Bitcoin PR Buzz: http://bitcoinprbuzz.com
Precious metals/jewelry: http://bitezze.com
Gift cards for Devcoins: http://dvc4giftcards.us
Earn devcoins: www.devtome.com
Work for Crypto (devcoin to be added next): http://workforcrypto.com/
Custom designed bracelets/earrings: www.coinforbling.com
Virtual/Gaming: Galactic Milieu and http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/digitalisassets.html
Cloud Mining- Bitcoin and merged mined currencies cloud mining trading platform (dvc/btc exchange coming): https://cex.io/
Books: https://andarazoroflove.org/shop/
Collectable reserve notes: www.coinbucks.net
London 2012 collectable Olympic gear: www.247saver.co.uk
Daily Bit daily deals: www.dailybit.net
Survival Supplies: http://wrol.info/survival-gear-bitcoin/
Rapidballs DVC Lotto: http://dvc.rapidballs.eu/
CD Keys, PSN Cards, Xbox Live membership and PC Games: http://www.cryptogamekeys.com/
Visa pre-paid cards: www.visa4crypto.com/
eBooks (adult): www.cryptobooks.com
DVC investment Bond:  https://cryptostocks.com/securities/40
DVB - devda.ch - revenue from development bounties and merged mining: https://cryptostocks.com/securities/14
Cryptocurrency payment checkout portal: www.coinpayments.net/
Crowdfunding trading platform: https://cryptostocks.com
Bounties: Regular dvc payments via Bitcoin share list have supported Bitcoin-Qt, Open Transactions, Abe, P2Pool among others. Bounty now and Future Bounties.
Buy/Sell DVC:
- www.Vircurex.com
- www.Cryptsy.com
- www.Crypto-Trade.com

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Nice jump. Thanks to those of you who dumped to me at 13 satoshis!  Smiley
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Nice jump. Thanks to those of you who dumped to me at 13 satoshis!  Smiley
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Nice jump. Thanks to those of you who dumped to me at 13 satoshis!  Smiley

I dumped quite a few at 13-16, doh! :p


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