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November 21, 2013, 02:14:46 AM
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The breeding idea is dumb, no offense. People who do not professionally breed dogs (or cats) should not try to be breeders. Its a little more involved than "cross breed a few breeds a few times" and will cost MUCH MUCH more than any DVC bounty could ever pay.

How the hell do you think people become professionals? Practice makes perfect.

Do you breed?

Plants. I have the base genetics for a new strain of MJ.

Plants are a good place to start. Plant crossbreeding and canine eugenics are two very different things. I don't mean to discourage anyone from trying science, but this country doesn't need anymore doggles that aren't getting taken care of. Dog breeding isn't a "hobby," its a full time gig.

I wasn't suggesting people do it willy nilly. The goal of bounties is to help you continue forward on the project, correct?

Yes, you're right, but to successfully breed a new dog takes many generations. Its not like you can just get a daschund to mate with a labrador and get a daschador out of it. You have to have a litter, choose specimens which have your feature traits, start over with other dogs of the same original breed stock and do it again, and again. You have to account for ALL of the puppies, and you can't just call it good if one litter "looks right." You've got to go back and rebreed, and let them age to see if genetic defects become apparent, etc.

I know there are some very ambitious bounties on the list but I still feel the same. Dog breeding's beyond the scope of DVC bounties--we should certainly encourage science (it should be a huge focus, DEV doesn't mean writer) but encouraging reckless breeding for DVC is just bad in general.

Good place to start with plants though, if you do breed a successful fourth phenotype of marijuana you should get a nice big bounty of DVC.

I thought that the name of that "inbreeding for good" was crossbreeding. Maybe I am wrong.

And how is dog breeding "out of the DVC range" but building a rocket seems ok. lol.

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And how is dog breeding "out of the DVC range" but building a rocket seems ok. lol.

Because unwanted rockets don't still need to be fed and taken out for potty Cheesy
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Well, if anyone can suggest a bounty then I will to!

I propose a 12 share bounty for a devcoin exchange and marketplace, sort of like bitmit except you can deposit bitcoin or litecoin and trade them for devcoin.

I'm working on adding it to tagcoin exchange... many different fiat's can be deposited (FinCen regulated) and tagcoin/bitcoin/devcoin would be traded.

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If we really want people to hold why don't we convert to PoW/PoS?

please explain.

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And how is dog breeding "out of the DVC range" but building a rocket seems ok. lol.

Because unwanted rockets don't still need to be fed and taken out for potty Cheesy

They require MUCH more storage funds though. So I think it more than evens out.

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I takes time to evaluate bounties, so only two bounties per month by someone will be looked at, and the bounty description has to be at least 50 words.

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I would be interested in working on this for a DVC bounty, but my suggestions are a big change to the project and we'd need some consensus.  

I'm proposing a dismantling of Devtome and a re-packaging of its content onto separate websites.  These will be more reader friendly, more search engine friendly and more advertiser friendly.  

That's the strength of Devtome, the content, and the 'packaging' of that content is very important.

I can do this work in two stages:

Stage 1:  Planning

To start I would decide how Devtomes content would be best divided up to be commercially viable on a blog network.  At a quick glance I can see the e-currency section with some articles from the Computing section would work well together on a single website.  Also the health section looks strong enough to have its own website.  Each individual website will need to have enough content to be viable, so the content in some isolated and thinly populated categories may not be able to be used at first.  Once I've divided it all up and done some keyword research for search terms we should aim to rank for and found some good domain names to use I can proceed to the next stage, which is:

Stage 2:  Execution
Register the domain names, install wordpress on them.  I would need help making the designs look snazzy as I am not a web designer, but I can find decent free wordpress themes to get started with.  I would then go about removing the articles from Devtome and publish them onto the new Devcoin powered blog network.  Google likes it when a site has new content added regularly, so re-publishing the articles approximately one per day over the course of a few months would be best.  (Devtome of course does have regular content added, which is great, but its lack of topic-focus makes it hard for the search engines to categorise).  New content would still be needed all the time as per usual to keep growing the blogs.  I would also be able to provide the lists of keywords we would be aiming to rank for in the search engines to Devtomers and explain in detail how to go about link building to build highly targeted organic search traffic.  Once traffic builds, I can put up Google Adsense (have done this lots of times before) and we can use the revenue to do whatever we think we should.  I'd recommend waiting 2-3 months before putting up any ads to let traffic build first.

If people want me to go ahead with this, please voice your opinions.  It is a big project and I am willing to do it for a bounty.
I've particularly thought the avenue of a portal focusing on cryptos would work. There's a lot of info on devtome - in the e-currency, cryptos, business and companies categories - that would suit a single crypto site, as well as more personal articles written on various experiences of learning/buying/selling/trading/blogging. These could offer a regular supplement to the more info/data orientated posts. With the incentive of targeted traffic and interest (and perhaps an adjusted compensation in a crypto - devcoin) that could be a good catalyst to capture greater interest as a differentiation vs other blogs in an area (e-money in general) that's only just really beginning and in my opinion will prove to have significant overlap with just about every aspect of life whether we like it or not.

The particular focus of a devcoin orientated site, with no particular bias towards including or precluding information/promotion of any particular currency or concept may also prove interesting to the competition (not sure whether that will longer-term prove to be a restriction or limiter of success - people like to stick to their biases). Such an approach broadened out would also move further along the road of building self-sustaining revenue streams, freeing up resources to plough back into further endeavours.

As you infer, an information repository has been slowly but surely building - I agree it's time to optimise it and garner greater recognition of the possibilities. I'm not sure all/every topic would work in that format, but it does offer the significant advantage of more likely promoting sub-teams of people with similar interests taking a greater focus on marketing/writing/advertising/vetting. There's more room for trial and error - what works/doesn't can be mutually discussed/utilised with the underlying driver of mutual success as devcoin projects ensuring better finessing.

I was thinking basically the same thing after I wrote this post.  Blogs might not work for all the categories, and plus if I did this just for cypto-computing-interenet articles that would be a good trial of this idea.

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I am now looking at other cryptos to list on the exchange at tagbond, and to integrate to the platform in general. I am looking for fairly created coins that will help build the membership base at Tagbond.

Can you let me know why I should add Devcoin, any advantages or disadvantages to us.

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You could implement a Tagbond kind of system.
By letting people "chip in" on a bounty. (Somewhat like the point system)

Maybe even combine it with a bit of "kickstarter" and you'll get a system which allows people to submit their ideas and get rewards for it.
I think this could be a nice addition to Matt608's idea.

Just my 2cents

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I am now looking at other cryptos to list on the exchange at tagbond, and to integrate to the platform in general. I am looking for fairly created coins that will help build the membership base at Tagbond.

Can you let me know why I should add Devcoin, any advantages or disadvantages to us.

Devcoiners are a loyal bunch, most of us earn our Devcoins by writing on Devtome so we have a 'core' of loyal DVC earning writers who support any exchange DVC is traded on.  Also Devcoin has been around a long time (over 2 years I think) and is one of the oldest alts.  There's no risk of it dyeing anytime soon like one of the endless scamcoins which have no innovation.  Also Devcoiners might actually want to use Tagbond to promote Devtome, in order to recruit new writers by creating Tagverts.  Also, Devtome is designed to support developers of all kinds (at the moment though it's almost entirely writers) so if added to Tagbond you would be supporting writers, which some consider a good thing.  For example, I published my book about hiking the Appalachian trail on Devtome (see sig) and got paid in Devcoins, so that was a reward for a creative project.  A final point is that there are new Devcoin developments in the pipeline (we are alwas discussing them on here) so the future looks bright for Devcoin.  All in all Devcoin is a worthy altcoin for trading on any serious altcoin exchange.  

I've had a look around Tagbond for the first time today, looks like it could work if it gets enough Tagverts being made, good luck. Smiley

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Hey guys.

Finally got my life back on track and have a computer as well as internet again, so I'll be writing at the rate I used to, around a thousand words a day of quality original content, mainly short stories as these are currently my forte.

Also wanted to say a huge thanks to unthinkingbit for supporting me through the time and his help was completely invaluable.

It's good to be back.
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I am now looking at other cryptos to list on the exchange at tagbond, and to integrate to the platform in general. I am looking for fairly created coins that will help build the membership base at Tagbond.

Can you let me know why I should add Devcoin, any advantages or disadvantages to us.
The idea of devcoin fits well within the intention of tag verts so essentially devcoin is a tag community in which ads are paid for by coin generated today. These can be switched to tagverts and paid via signup confirmation since most ads are to sign up to devtome. This would make devcoin marketing more efficient and at the same time utilize the tag system. Once we have that in place we can start to use them elsewhere for bounty advertisement etc.

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Bounty: Brewing Dreams

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Using fermentation and multiple herbal spices including "Dream Herb" aka "Cheech", create a legal alcoholic beverage that also has the ability to aid in dreaming and sleep. Not meant for sale, recipe & procedure must be open source. Beverage also must be a mixture of herbals, so as not to be a mimic homeopathic sleep aides (which usually only have one or 2 herbs), but supersede them. And remember, sleep is not the main focus, dreaming is. Lucid preferred.

Must include Dream herb
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I suggest limiting the posts per user to forty per month. Also, duplicate posts will be removed.

Are there are objections to either suggestion? Should the posts per user be limited to a smaller number?

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Fin - you've already listed multiple suggestions. Please stop with just posting whatever comes to mind. I appreciate that you believe your approach is the best one, but when almost everybody else disagrees - within a group endeavour - surely it's time to take a step back and consider those other opinions. There was a period earlier this year when pushback against your posts grew to the extent of real animosity and the devcoin thread centred only on such attitude. It's beginning to return to that vibe so many of us would really appreciate keeping things on point. If you want to pursue some of the ideas you suggest then just do them - you're getting paid via devtome so put that compensation to good use.

Unthinkingbit - Maybe just eliminating duplicates would be a start. Not sure how/why broad interest could/should be curtailed to address a narrower problem.

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If we really want people to hold why don't we convert to PoW/PoS?

please explain.

Doesn't that mean interest will generate?

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I suggest limiting the posts per user to forty per month. Also, duplicate posts will be removed.

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40 a month is way too few. There are already too many noob questions that go unanswered for days.

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I suggest limiting the posts per user to forty per month. Also, duplicate posts will be removed.

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40 a month is way too few. There are already too many noob questions that go unanswered for days.

It prevents thread bloating.

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Fin - you've already listed multiple suggestions. Please stop with just posting whatever comes to mind. I appreciate that you believe your approach is the best one, but when almost everybody else disagrees - within a group endeavour - surely it's time to take a step back and consider those other opinions. There was a period earlier this year when pushback against your posts grew to the extent of real animosity and the devcoin thread centred only on such attitude. It's beginning to return to that vibe so many of us would really appreciate keeping things on point. If you want to pursue some of the ideas you suggest then just do them - you're getting paid via devtome so put that compensation to good use.

Unthinkingbit - Maybe just eliminating duplicates would be a start. Not sure how/why broad interest could/should be curtailed to address a narrower problem.

None of them were 50 words. So, no this is my first suggestion

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I suggest limiting the posts per user to forty per month. Also, duplicate posts will be removed.

Are there are objections to either suggestion? Should the posts per user be limited to a smaller number?


40 a month is way too few. There are already too many noob questions that go unanswered for days.

It prevents thread bloating.

It also prevents learning. On my FinShaggy account I had tons of newbs thank me because I was the only one that would answer right away, while all the old schoolers bitched at me for being present too often.

So it is give and take.

You can start by stopping to repost your own posts for the purpose of bumping.

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