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October 17, 2018, 10:29:00 PM
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I started using phoenix from yesterday. Good surprise that i get better hashrate and lower power consumption than claymore.
Thought that claymore is good:)
Better dev fee too.  I'm using linux based miner.AMD OpenCL 16.60
claymore 300.3mhs 715w
phoenix (same clocks and green kernels) 304mhs 708w
https://hiveos.farm?ref=14664
maybe today is few degrees colder
Nice joke, but maybe you haven’t ever tried PM3.5d. For me it is 0.3% higher hash rate, 0.7% lower power consumption and 0.3 lower devfee than Claymore.
Not joke, I have such effect if ambient temp drops 5 celsius. Less power a bit and more hash (poolside)
I'll try 3.5 and compare but percentage you mention are just tiny better, like same miner with lower fee.
Had no improvement on Atis with previous versions but Nvidias did like PM over CM 

 
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October 18, 2018, 01:07:33 PM
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Actually with cooler cards takes less power.
-gt setting are auto tune.
does -acm setting makes any different under linux? claymore states that under linux no need for comput mode.
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October 18, 2018, 01:52:23 PM
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Hello PhoenixMiner i'm use mine Nicehash but always switch DAG, re-connection mining and Shut Down mine using last drivers 18.9.3. So can use Drivers 18.8.2 for MSI RX580 4gb working to Nicehash? Huh


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October 18, 2018, 02:03:33 PM
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I started using phoenix from yesterday. Good surprise that i get better hashrate and lower power consumption than claymore.
Thought that claymore is good:)
Better dev fee too.  I'm using linux based miner.AMD OpenCL 16.60
claymore 300.3mhs 715w
phoenix (same clocks and green kernels) 304mhs 708w
https://hiveos.farm?ref=14664
maybe today is few degrees colder
Nice joke, but maybe you haven’t ever tried PM3.5d. For me it is 0.3% higher hash rate, 0.7% lower power consumption and 0.3 lower devfee than Claymore.
Not joke, I have such effect if ambient temp drops 5 celsius. Less power a bit and more hash (poolside)
I'll try 3.5 and compare but percentage you mention are just tiny better, like same miner with lower fee.
Had no improvement on Atis with previous versions but Nvidias did like PM over CM 

Yes cooler cards use less electricity, this is called physics.

A bit more hash is not possible. What you see is a normal daily fluctuation. You need to take the average hashrate of several days, 1 day is not enough to get a reasonable average.
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October 18, 2018, 09:15:35 PM
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I started using phoenix from yesterday. Good surprise that i get better hashrate and lower power consumption than claymore.
Thought that claymore is good:)
Better dev fee too.  I'm using linux based miner.AMD OpenCL 16.60
claymore 300.3mhs 715w
phoenix (same clocks and green kernels) 304mhs 708w
https://hiveos.farm?ref=14664
maybe today is few degrees colder
Nice joke, but maybe you haven’t ever tried PM3.5d. For me it is 0.3% higher hash rate, 0.7% lower power consumption and 0.3 lower devfee than Claymore.
Not joke, I have such effect if ambient temp drops 5 celsius. Less power a bit and more hash (poolside)
I'll try 3.5 and compare but percentage you mention are just tiny better, like same miner with lower fee.
Had no improvement on Atis with previous versions but Nvidias did like PM over CM 

Yes cooler cards use less electricity, this is called physics.

A bit more hash is not possible. What you see is a normal daily fluctuation. You need to take the average hashrate of several days, 1 day is not enough to get a reasonable average.

A bit more hash poolside I said. Less "bad" shares, one or other way. And visible in 30 minutes, i.e. when you open doors/windows - temp drops and hash goes up in minutes ( give 15 minutes to pool ). Well mine cards are fine tuned depending of ambient temperature.
Short, I wanted to say that 0.5 % might be result EVEN of temperature drop.

 
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October 18, 2018, 09:56:50 PM
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I started using phoenix from yesterday. Good surprise that i get better hashrate and lower power consumption than claymore.
Thought that claymore is good:)
Better dev fee too.  I'm using linux based miner.AMD OpenCL 16.60
claymore 300.3mhs 715w
phoenix (same clocks and green kernels) 304mhs 708w
https://hiveos.farm?ref=14664
maybe today is few degrees colder
Nice joke, but maybe you haven’t ever tried PM3.5d. For me it is 0.3% higher hash rate, 0.7% lower power consumption and 0.3 lower devfee than Claymore.
Not joke, I have such effect if ambient temp drops 5 celsius. Less power a bit and more hash (poolside)
I'll try 3.5 and compare but percentage you mention are just tiny better, like same miner with lower fee.
Had no improvement on Atis with previous versions but Nvidias did like PM over CM 

Yes cooler cards use less electricity, this is called physics.

A bit more hash is not possible. What you see is a normal daily fluctuation. You need to take the average hashrate of several days, 1 day is not enough to get a reasonable average.

A bit more hash poolside I said. Less "bad" shares, one or other way. And visible in 30 minutes, i.e. when you open doors/windows - temp drops and hash goes up in minutes ( give 15 minutes to pool ). Well mine cards are fine tuned depending of ambient temperature.
Short, I wanted to say that 0.5 % might be result EVEN of temperature drop.
If you measure for 15 minutes, it could be fluctuation if you measure for weeks (as i have done) it could not be. By the way my results are with green kernels. Total increase of 0.6% percent of earnings and after deducing the reduced with 0.7% electricity expenses I have total increase of 3.3% of the final profit compared to Claymore. Not very big, but enough for me to replace Claymore with PM.
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October 19, 2018, 12:40:52 AM
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I started using phoenix from yesterday. Good surprise that i get better hashrate and lower power consumption than claymore.
Thought that claymore is good:)
Better dev fee too.  I'm using linux based miner.AMD OpenCL 16.60
claymore 300.3mhs 715w
phoenix (same clocks and green kernels) 304mhs 708w
https://hiveos.farm?ref=14664
maybe today is few degrees colder
Nice joke, but maybe you haven’t ever tried PM3.5d. For me it is 0.3% higher hash rate, 0.7% lower power consumption and 0.3 lower devfee than Claymore.
Not joke, I have such effect if ambient temp drops 5 celsius. Less power a bit and more hash (poolside)
I'll try 3.5 and compare but percentage you mention are just tiny better, like same miner with lower fee.
Had no improvement on Atis with previous versions but Nvidias did like PM over CM  

Yes cooler cards use less electricity, this is called physics.

A bit more hash is not possible. What you see is a normal daily fluctuation. You need to take the average hashrate of several days, 1 day is not enough to get a reasonable average.

A bit more hash poolside I said. Less "bad" shares, one or other way. And visible in 30 minutes, i.e. when you open doors/windows - temp drops and hash goes up in minutes ( give 15 minutes to pool ). Well mine cards are fine tuned depending of ambient temperature.
Short, I wanted to say that 0.5 % might be result EVEN of temperature drop.
If you measure for 15 minutes, it could be fluctuation if you measure for weeks (as i have done) it could not be. By the way my results are with green kernels. Total increase of 0.6% percent of earnings and after deducing the reduced with 0.7% electricity expenses I have total increase of 3.3% of the final profit compared to Claymore. Not very big, but enough for me to replace Claymore with PM.

Hmm...what driver you use and what is the best ( used by dev) driver for 3.5? AMD AND NVIDIA?

 
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October 19, 2018, 02:28:30 AM
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I started using phoenix from yesterday. Good surprise that i get better hashrate and lower power consumption than claymore.
Thought that claymore is good:)
Better dev fee too.  I'm using linux based miner.AMD OpenCL 16.60
claymore 300.3mhs 715w
phoenix (same clocks and green kernels) 304mhs 708w
https://hiveos.farm?ref=14664
maybe today is few degrees colder
Nice joke, but maybe you haven’t ever tried PM3.5d. For me it is 0.3% higher hash rate, 0.7% lower power consumption and 0.3 lower devfee than Claymore.
Not joke, I have such effect if ambient temp drops 5 celsius. Less power a bit and more hash (poolside)
I'll try 3.5 and compare but percentage you mention are just tiny better, like same miner with lower fee.
Had no improvement on Atis with previous versions but Nvidias did like PM over CM  

Yes cooler cards use less electricity, this is called physics.

A bit more hash is not possible. What you see is a normal daily fluctuation. You need to take the average hashrate of several days, 1 day is not enough to get a reasonable average.

A bit more hash poolside I said. Less "bad" shares, one or other way. And visible in 30 minutes, i.e. when you open doors/windows - temp drops and hash goes up in minutes ( give 15 minutes to pool ). Well mine cards are fine tuned depending of ambient temperature.
Short, I wanted to say that 0.5 % might be result EVEN of temperature drop.
If you measure for 15 minutes, it could be fluctuation if you measure for weeks (as i have done) it could not be. By the way my results are with green kernels. Total increase of 0.6% percent of earnings and after deducing the reduced with 0.7% electricity expenses I have total increase of 3.3% of the final profit compared to Claymore. Not very big, but enough for me to replace Claymore with PM.

Hmm...what driver you use and what is the best ( used by dev) driver for 3.5? AMD AND NVIDIA?
18.3 win10 amd rx570
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hashrate goes to zero on the pool but the miner shows as if it's working just fine.  Works fine in claymore...

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October 21, 2018, 11:37:22 AM
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Please consider adding Yocoin and Atheios
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Will be added support of Ubiq (hardfork) algo?
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Good day PM please Add --->>  Will be added support of Ubiq (hardfork) New Ubqhash algo?
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Mined now for few days and seems that phoenix is little faster than claymore.
After adding -mi settings, started mining better. -gt still auto tune. started mining prezzed Z and -gt was calculated.
Notised that after coin network difficult changes about 10TH (up or down), then was need to auto tune -gt setting again, was mining better.
So there is suggestion to phoenix , can you add setting that monitor coin network difficult and if changes in difficult are big then phoenix calculates new -gt settings.
Exsample: ETC dif 197TH calculated first, dificult rised to 206TH need to calculate again -gt settings. And this up and down goes every day.
This few minutes autotune is worth.
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does -acm setting makes any different under linux? claymore states that under linux no need for comput mode.
   This is partially true. Under Linux, this is not called Compute mode, and -acm won't do anything but you can still have the same problem (big drop in hashrate in DAG epoch 180+ vs DAG epoch 2) because of the TLB thrashing when the DAG size increases. If you are seeing such hashrate drop under Linux (and it is quite noticeable when mining ETH or ETC), you need to enable the large page support as described here: https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Driver-for-Linux-Release-Notes.aspx (in the "Large page support") section. Note that in the latest AMD drivers for Linux this is supposed to be turned on by default, and in the drivers before 17.40, it may not have an effect at all.


Hello PhoenixMiner i'm use mine Nicehash but always switch DAG, re-connection mining and Shut Down mine using last drivers 18.9.3. So can use Drivers 18.8.2 for MSI RX580 4gb working to Nicehash? Huh
Thanks. Smiley
   The drivers shouldn't be a problem. In 18.9.3 there weren't relevant changes in the OpenCL implementation, so using 18.8.2 probably won't make a difference. Could you please send us a log (preferably whenever the problem is happening) to see what is going wrong?


hashrate goes to zero on the pool but the miner shows as if it's working just fine.  Works fine in claymore...
   This seems like the IP hijack attack aganst your network/ISP. Please try using an SSL-enabled pool like ethermine (e.g. -pool ssl://eu1.ethermine.org:5555 instead of -pool eu1.ethermine.org:4444). If you are already using SSL pool, please send us a (partial) log to see if there are any clues what happens.


Will be added support of Ubiq (hardfork) algo?
Good day PM please Add --->>  Will be added support of Ubiq (hardfork) New Ubqhash algo?
   We will probably add support but not in the next release, as we are trying to finish it ASAP. The change seems small but it requires a lot of conditional checks and changes in the code that need to be thoroughly tested, etc, which can easily add a week or two to our schedule.



Mined now for few days and seems that phoenix is little faster than claymore.
After adding -mi settings, started mining better. -gt still auto tune. started mining prezzed Z and -gt was calculated.
Notised that after coin network difficult changes about 10TH (up or down), then was need to auto tune -gt setting again, was mining better.
So there is suggestion to phoenix , can you add setting that monitor coin network difficult and if changes in difficult are big then phoenix calculates new -gt settings.
Exsample: ETC dif 197TH calculated first, dificult rised to 206TH need to calculate again -gt settings. And this up and down goes every day.
This few minutes autotune is worth.
    Theoretically, there shouldn't be need to recalculate the -gt values whenever the network difficulty change. Probably something else has changed like the driver version, the PM kernels (if you have upgraded PhoenixMiner since the last auto GT), the core and/or memory clocks, etc.). Also, it is not possible to get the network difficulty from the pool (it simply doesn't send us this information, only the share difficulty). However we may add an option to re-run auto-tune periodically in the future.
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October 23, 2018, 10:49:00 AM
Last edit: October 24, 2018, 05:11:05 AM by e1ace
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We will probably add support but not in the next release, as we are trying to finish it ASAP. The change seems small but it requires a lot of conditional checks and changes in the code that need to be thoroughly tested, etc, which can easily add a week or two to our schedule.
I hate to be 'that guy' but is their an estimate as to when the next version will release?
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October 25, 2018, 08:05:58 PM
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Guys, I have a rig with 10 gpus and want to use the first 9 with PhoenixMiner, so I used this comand:
-gpus <012345678>
but the miner didn't work this way, so I changed to
-di 012345678
and it works fine I think...
Is that normal or I'm doing something wrong?
thanks
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October 26, 2018, 07:06:26 AM
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so I used this comand:
-gpus <012345678>
Hi.
According to OP, first card has numer 1, not 0.
Edit. and don't use brackets.
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October 26, 2018, 09:47:57 AM
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Very good miner, stable as rock and gives best hashrate.
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October 26, 2018, 11:27:30 AM
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Very good miner, stable as rock and gives best hashrate.

Yeah, but it need fan control for linux like claymore
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October 26, 2018, 06:58:44 PM
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Very good miner, stable as rock and gives best hashrate.

Yeah, but it need fan control for linux like claymore

I hope they will add it later.
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