Official Thread: AMT

[Phinnaeus Gage]

HAHA that's funny I remember seeing this forever ago. You should record or post updates on contact during your trip

Or something similar, I will.

[1714797288]

1714797288

[1714797288]

1714797288

[Phinnaeus Gage]

This thread just got really fucking awesome.

I wish I could tag along just to record the whole damn trip. Would make for an interesting Mini-Doc.

My guess is AMT never even saw what they were getting into here.

This could be amazing.

Lets watch what happens.

I just need to read or hear "It's a go!" before I head out. That is all.

Heading to bed now, for I got a long day ahead of me. And it's snowing here.

[MrTeal]

This thread just got really fucking awesome.

I wish I could tag along just to record the whole damn trip. Would make for an interesting Mini-Doc.

My guess is AMT never even saw what they were getting into here.

This could be amazing.

Lets watch what happens.

Maybe. I think it's just as likely they finally got their shit together and have managed to get a couple units produced that they can show off. Only a few of course, as they just finished shipping out all the units for the day. Hopefully Phin can be forceful in getting something resembling proof to back up their claim of ~150 units shipped already.

[Biffa]

This thread just got really fucking awesome.

I wish I could tag along just to record the whole damn trip. Would make for an interesting Mini-Doc.

My guess is AMT never even saw what they were getting into here.

This could be amazing.

Lets watch what happens.

Maybe. I think it's just as likely they finally got their shit together and have managed to get a couple units produced that they can show off. Only a few of course, as they just finished shipping out all the units for the day. Hopefully Phin can be forceful in getting something resembling proof to back up their claim of ~150 units shipped already.

I'm gonna say its an elaborate ruse to discredit Phinnaeus. I'll just put it out there. I wouldn't touch their BTC if I wasn't a customer. Sure go see them. But whatever happens there will be his word against theirs.

If there is anyone who lives nearby I'd get as many people to hang around there at the time.

[rik_khaos]

Pick the biggest fish in the thread, quite possibly their biggest detrator if you don't count clenel, l bait him knowing that if he can confirm the legions will follow.

Put at BTC20 bounty (PR/viral marketing) on the line. If they can show it off they come out looking clean, but still have to work on the customer relations.

If it sells 2 1.2 th miners in the process they've made back that bounty/Marketing money. If they sell a 3.2 Th then they are in the green.

It could be the most brilliant thing I've seen them do. But are they really that smart? They way they've handled their business otherwise makes me skeptical.

[freddyfarnsworth]

This thread just got really fucking awesome.

I wish I could tag along just to record the whole damn trip. Would make for an interesting Mini-Doc.

My guess is AMT never even saw what they were getting into here.

This could be amazing.

Lets watch what happens.

Maybe. I think it's just as likely they finally got their shit together and have managed to get a couple units produced that they can show off. Only a few of course, as they just finished shipping out all the units for the day. Hopefully Phin can be forceful in getting something resembling proof to back up their claim of ~150 units shipped already.

I'm gonna say its an elaborate ruse to discredit Phinnaeus. I'll just put it out there. I wouldn't touch their BTC if I wasn't a customer. Sure go see them. But whatever happens there will be his word against theirs.

If there is anyone who lives nearby I'd get as many people to hang around there at the time.

Flash Mob ?

[rik_khaos]

This thread just got really fucking awesome.

I wish I could tag along just to record the whole damn trip. Would make for an interesting Mini-Doc.

My guess is AMT never even saw what they were getting into here.

This could be amazing.

Lets watch what happens.

Maybe. I think it's just as likely they finally got their shit together and have managed to get a couple units produced that they can show off. Only a few of course, as they just finished shipping out all the units for the day. Hopefully Phin can be forceful in getting something resembling proof to back up their claim of ~150 units shipped already.

I'm gonna say its an elaborate ruse to discredit Phinnaeus. I'll just put it out there. I wouldn't touch their BTC if I wasn't a customer. Sure go see them. But whatever happens there will be his word against theirs.

If there is anyone who lives nearby I'd get as many people to hang around there at the time.

Flash Mob ?

Well we know when he's going to be there. But if a bunch of people show up then AMT will be all scared and won't show anything because it's scary.

my guess is AMT doesn't check this thread again for two weeks so phin never gets the ok. I'd go anyway.

[Biffa]

This thread just got really fucking awesome.

I wish I could tag along just to record the whole damn trip. Would make for an interesting Mini-Doc.

My guess is AMT never even saw what they were getting into here.

This could be amazing.

Lets watch what happens.

Maybe. I think it's just as likely they finally got their shit together and have managed to get a couple units produced that they can show off. Only a few of course, as they just finished shipping out all the units for the day. Hopefully Phin can be forceful in getting something resembling proof to back up their claim of ~150 units shipped already.

I'm gonna say its an elaborate ruse to discredit Phinnaeus. I'll just put it out there. I wouldn't touch their BTC if I wasn't a customer. Sure go see them. But whatever happens there will be his word against theirs.

If there is anyone who lives nearby I'd get as many people to hang around there at the time.

Flash Mob ?

Well we know when he's going to be there. But if a bunch of people show up then AMT will be all scared and won't show anything because it's scary.

my guess is AMT doesn't check this thread again for two weeks so phin never gets the ok. I'd go anyway.

I don't mean to go with or in or whatever, unless AMT agree, but just be witness. Park nearby and watch him arrive, go in, leave etc. He's not exactly difficult to spot

[rik_khaos]

This thread just got really fucking awesome.

I wish I could tag along just to record the whole damn trip. Would make for an interesting Mini-Doc.

My guess is AMT never even saw what they were getting into here.

This could be amazing.

Lets watch what happens.

Maybe. I think it's just as likely they finally got their shit together and have managed to get a couple units produced that they can show off. Only a few of course, as they just finished shipping out all the units for the day. Hopefully Phin can be forceful in getting something resembling proof to back up their claim of ~150 units shipped already.

I'm gonna say its an elaborate ruse to discredit Phinnaeus. I'll just put it out there. I wouldn't touch their BTC if I wasn't a customer. Sure go see them. But whatever happens there will be his word against theirs.

If there is anyone who lives nearby I'd get as many people to hang around there at the time.

Flash Mob ?

Well we know when he's going to be there. But if a bunch of people show up then AMT will be all scared and won't show anything because it's scary.

my guess is AMT doesn't check this thread again for two weeks so phin never gets the ok. I'd go anyway.

I don't mean to go with or in or whatever, unless AMT agree, but just be witness. Park nearby and watch him arrive, go in, leave etc. He's not exactly difficult to spot

He should wear the pink tutu just to be sure he can be seen clearly.

[opieum2]

Truth is if they are on the level here and Phin shows up, then posts up hey guys its legit, I think at this point they have done the PR job needed to convince people its happening since he was the biggest detractor. Taking the largest skeptic and convincing them SHOWING them they are legit is the best PR move they got. Otherwise if he were bluffing they are calling him on his bluff.

They made the arrangement to go show him around and are willing to pay for it. Marketing dollars. So this is a good thing for all of us. Because he goes from being their detractor to defending them. I say that changes the tone of this thread dramatically.

[timmyd]

im order 1450 and still awaiting my 520ghs paper weight

Let me know when they get to you... I'm #1565 also for a 520.

Wish Ant S1's were this cheap at the end of Feb... Wouldna ordered the 520 that's for sure! At current S1 prices that $4089 would have bought almost 5 (4.7xx something) Ants good for a total of 720GHs. Ah well, to have a Time Machine...

If the internet is still active when my miner arrives buddy ill let you know it arrived.

[AMT_miners]

Like we said before - we post an update and immediately 5 pages of crap within 12 hours is created by Phinnaeus Gage -

By the way, the moderators are not assisting with this guy - anyone that has information on Kevin's - Phinnaeus Gage's current address, we'd like to know.

We believe his comments are inappropriate and hostile - have absolutely nothing to do with this thread.

Lets say it a bit more clearly.

Phinnaeus Gage is a hired black pr - his one job is to sit on his computer and follow this thread and write inappropriate things to discourage users.

In kind, we'll counter with the following.

We're offering a 20btc bounty to bring Phinnaeus Gage to our office, along with his account here on bitcointalk.

Hes a really big talker  but why doesn't he investigate the office, or why doesnt he come and try and interview his favorite staff member Josh.

Because Phinnaeus Gage is a hired black PR - and we're offering 20BTC to the user/member that will bring Phinnaeus (the physical person) to us.

The address and name he has provided is false.

Or if Phinnaeus Gage is such a big man/big talker he can come here and collect his reward himself.

WE'RE TIRED OF NOT BEING ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF USERS LIKE HIM.

Phinnaeus (who, btw, has posted his info multiple times and has made it clear that he would like to meet you all, though after this i think it might be best if you never did).

Actually, we just want to meet Phinneas - to have a chat with him and ask him to politely stop interfering with our thread. When random people are showing up at our staff's personal home addresses, calling our personal cellphones and threatening our children's lives (literally happened) we feel its gone too far. As the moderators of this forum wont assist, we'll take matters into our own hands in order to politely contact Phinease in person.

We urge this member to come resolve these conflicts with us and offer him a 20btc reward to simply have a conversation in our office. Or - if another member can persuade him to do so, than the other member shall obtain the reward.

I guess nobody had to persuade me to come to your office.

I seriously don't have your home address, and don't believe I accidentally posted it, unless if was one you used when you registered your domain names, then I may have done such, but would not have even thought about directly people to do bodily harm to you or your family.

Max and Jake, on the hand, but they reside in Bulgaria.  

You said that you could drive from IL to PA tomorrow. How does 8pm sound? That'll give us time make sure sure tomorrows shipments go out and get the next mornings shipments ready for the following morning.

Does 8pm work for you?  355 Lancaster Ave, Bldg E, Office 1, Haverford, PA, 19041  I'm sure you're GPS will find it.

Unfortunately, that'll be too soon, for I'll have to get the Caddy road ready and won't be able to leave out till noonish, thus Wednesday evening being the better time frame.

We could meet at your office, shakes hands, spend a couple minutes in the office, then I'll jump in your car and we go for dinner, thus you'll have full control of the situation. Otherwise, I'll follow you to nearest or furthest steakhouse. Hell, I may even buy, or we could flip a quarter (no pun intended) to see who pays. But, don't bring your dad, only because he looks like a big eater. Only kidding! If he's available, would love to have him tag along.

Great Wednesday evening it is. See you around 8.

[opieum2]

If I had to guess the point here is to get someone who has been very vocal and show them they are legit and shipping. So far he has been putting together all sorts of connections together. If he goes there and sees its all legit, and comes back here and posts what he found. Then he is now having to backtrack on all the stuff that he has said. All other detractors now have to contend with Phin. (this presuming it all happens the way I am describing)

We will see on Wednesday how it plays out. I for one am curious. I do think they are legit and have maintained that. I just think their lack of focus on communication to customers has been the problem. That is just my opinion tho.

[clenell]

Just make sure you get the 20 BTC in escrow before you bother to make the trip down.

I won't go the escrow route, taking him for his word.

you kidding? his word is crap. i know this from experience.

WHERE IS MY REFUND YOU SAID YOU SENT VIA MAIL? WHERE IS THE REFUND YOU SAID YOU WOULD WIRE? YOU LIED TWICE AMT MINERS. YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY YOU LYING PIECES OF SHIT.

[DrGamma]

My 1.2 TH miner was NOT one of the units shipped.

It was supposed to be delivered 1/25/2014.

As of 3/25/2014, it has not been delivered.

Once my unit is delivered and the other customers of AMT that posted on the site below have their units / refunds, those specific posts will be removed.

http://advancedminers-clients.com/

[AMT_miners]

Here's the deal.

No escrow is needed.

I'm driving out tomorrow and probably spending the night in Akron, OH. I'll be in Haverford by late afternoon, early evening at AMT's office.

Going to briefly see the office.

Then going to dinner, but prior to ordering, the bounty will be transferred. Then we rap and enjoy a fine dinner.

Then I report back to the community that all is well.

The other outcome involves a pineapple.  

PM me or call 815-508-1668 to verify, AMT.

~Bruno Kucinskas

Bruno,

We realize that is a long drive from IL to PA.  We've decided to fly you in directly.


Depart:
Chicago, IL (O'Hare) to Philadelphia, PA
Date:  Wednesday, March 26, 2014
Status: Active
Flight # / Carrier 702    
1:45 PM ORD    4:45 PM PHL    2h0m    -- A319   
Return:  Philadelphia, PA

Chicago, IL (O'Hare)
Date:  Wednesday, March 26, 2014
Status: Active
Flight # / Carrier 1380      
9:05 PM PHL    10:20 PM ORD    2h15m  737-800   

We've reserved the ticket under your name provided on the DL from the previous image. Does this work for you? If so please provide an email here where we can forward you the ticket.

[AMT_miners]

My 1.2 TH miner was NOT one of the units shipped.

It was supposed to be delivered 1/25/2014.

As of 3/25/2014, it has not been delivered.

Once my unit is delivered and the other customers of AMT that posted on the site below have their units / refunds, those specific posts will be removed.

http://advancedminers-clients.com/

Ah Thomasz - we'll get to you in a second.

[AMT_miners]

Just make sure you get the 20 BTC in escrow before you bother to make the trip down.

I won't go the escrow route, taking him for his word.

you kidding? his word is crap. i know this from experience.

WHERE IS MY REFUND YOU SAID YOU SENT VIA MAIL? WHERE IS THE REFUND YOU SAID YOU WOULD WIRE? YOU LIED TWICE AMT MINERS. YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY YOU LYING PIECES OF SHIT.

Craig,

You're refund was sent on 3/11 along with other checks for bills to vendors and what nut. The following week, you notified us that you had not received that refund. Josh responded to you in kind saying that you're miner was ready and could instead ship your miner or if you wish fedex your refund to you. You responded after a few days in a very hostile fashion, accusing us of not actually sending your refund in the first place. We responded with the same question, your miner or a fedexed check, you responded again in a hostile fashion and never actually answered the question. Then, you some how obtained josh's cell phone number and basically blew up his phone with calls from sunday to monday. Josh spoke to you on the phone and explained that the check may have actually gotten lost in the mail and that we offered to fedex you're refund in order to have a tracking number which you can track. You kept the conversation going for quite sometime until eventually Josh got frustrated and hung up.

Then you called over 20 times and left over 20 messages - some quite disturbing by all means when josh blocked your number. At that point you downloaded a spoof app which allows you to disguise your number as any other number and called josh several times from different philadelphia area codes.

At this point josh stopped picking up the phone all together - until you spoof called him from his sisters phone number and said "Is this number important to you josh, you better give me my refund".

At that point we called our laywers. A few hours later they called us back and said that we could sue if we wanted to for corporate harassment and encouraged us to file a police report to get the process in motion. You called back again and josh notified you of this possibility at which point you stopped calling. We have not filed the police report yet.

Craig... You went from begging to purchase our product with a credit card - to finally purchasing our product 6 weeks after your order was created - at which point you became a company cheerleader and praised our name - to literally being associated with our company because of the excess in which you cheered for us and the trolls actually started posting your background info - to quieting down a bit on this thread - to disliking us - and finally ranting and raving like the hired trolls - and now have evolved into a something like a stalker or something bordering that line. While also sending over 57 emails regarding updates.

All of that we could have dealt with, but in the end you really pissed josh off with the weird messages and kind of crossed the line with the whole "is your sisters number important to you" bit but overall you again handled the situation inappropriately.  

Because of you we have changed our refund policy to simply no refunds or refunds on a client to client basis, also we'll be shipping your miner today (hopefully as it wasn't a planned shipment today) and posting the fedex tracking number here on this thread. Unfortunately we're waiting on power supplies later this week so we'll be shipping your miner without a 1200w-1500w supply. We will ship you the supply when they come in. Or feel free to purchase a supply from amazon and you'll have a supply by the time your miner is delivered.

[opieum2]

Glad you guys are finally taking the reigns and handling this. Least now this thread can go to normal again. Hearing from you guys at least and taking these very significant steps to address things at least is he right direction here. Sucks that it had to come to this. But at least its happening. Hopefully after the dust settles we can start hearing on the statuses of miners going out. Glad I waited. I had intended to request a refund but stopped short of that. Least now you guys are starting to communicate. Hopefully we hear some more news and some real updates here on whats been going on. Thanks for putting forth the effort to restore order here. Sucks you guys have had to deal with personal harassment of your families. That certainly crosses a few lines.

Also as I have my miners set on pick up at the office when could I go pick it up? #1493 is my order (just expecting according to my place in the queue of course). Want to plan my time to make that trip. I am traveling through NYC,NJ to your office. Figure if you guys are replying here I might get a reply here. Hell I will even be willing to make a photo op of it for your benefit.

[clenell]

Just make sure you get the 20 BTC in escrow before you bother to make the trip down.

I won't go the escrow route, taking him for his word.

you kidding? his word is crap. i know this from experience.

WHERE IS MY REFUND YOU SAID YOU SENT VIA MAIL? WHERE IS THE REFUND YOU SAID YOU WOULD WIRE? YOU LIED TWICE AMT MINERS. YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY YOU LYING PIECES OF SHIT.

Craig,

You're refund was sent on 3/11 along with other checks for bills to vendors and what nut. The following week, you notified us that you had not received that refund. Josh responded to you in kind saying that you're miner was ready and could instead ship your miner or if you wish fedex your refund to you. You responded after a few days in a very hostile fashion, accusing us of not actually sending your refund in the first place. We responded with the same question, your miner or a fedexed check, you responded again in a hostile fashion and never actually answered the question. Then, you some how obtained josh's cell phone number and basically blew up his phone with calls from sunday to monday. Josh spoke to you on the phone and explained that the check may have actually gotten lost in the mail and that we offered to fedex you're refund in order to have a tracking number which you can track. You kept the conversation going for quite sometime until eventually Josh got frustrated and hung up.

Then you called over 20 times and left over 20 messages - some quite disturbing by all means when josh blocked your number. At that point you downloaded a spoof app which allows you to disguise your number as any other number and called josh several times from different philadelphia area codes.

At this point josh stopped picking up the phone all together - until you spoof called him from his sisters phone number and said "Is this number important to you josh, you better give me my refund".

At that point we called our laywers. A few hours later they called us back and said that we could sue if we wanted to for corporate harassment and encouraged us to file a police report to get the process in motion. You called back again and josh notified you of this possibility at which point you stopped calling. We have not filed the police report yet.

Craig... You went from begging to purchase our product with a credit card - to finally purchasing our product 6 weeks after your order was created - at which point you became a company cheerleader and praised our name - to literally being associated with our company because of the excess in which you cheered for us and the trolls actually started posting your background info - to quieting down a bit on this thread - to disliking us - and finally ranting and raving like the hired trolls - and now have evolved into a something like a stalker or something bordering that line. While also sending over 57 emails regarding updates.

All of that we could have dealt with, but in the end you really pissed josh off with the weird messages and kind of crossed the line with the whole "is your sisters number important to you" bit but overall you again handled the situation inappropriately.  

Because of you we have changed our refund policy to simply no refunds or refunds on a client to client basis, also we'll be shipping your miner today (hopefully as it wasn't a planned shipment today) and posting the fedex tracking number here on this thread. Unfortunately we're waiting on power supplies later this week so we'll be shipping your miner without a 1200w-1500w supply. We will ship you the supply when they come in. Or feel free to purchase a supply from amazon and you'll have a supply by the time your miner is delivered.

Lie #1

first off... you NEVER mailed me a refund. do you expect me to believe you put a $6000 check in the mail with no tracking? It's funny how every other piece of mail sent to me arrives except yours. It's not like you guys have lied or stretched the truth before huh? /facepalm

Lie #2

Josh asked for my banking information to wire me a refund because he knows he never mailed me a refund. he never wired the money. i waited 3 days before calling you out on the next lie.

Lie #3

"is your sisters number important to you" what the fuck are you talking about? this is an outright lie. I left a message telling Josh to hire his attorney "relative" because that's what hes going to need when i finish wish him. I never mentioned "sister" because i did not know what the relation was. However, thanks for confirming wit me that the attorney in question is indeed his sister.

is there anything AMT miners will not lie about? You guys are the worst fucking customer service oriented people on earth. You NEVER intended on sending me a refund. All you were doing is buying time. Do you really think anyone on this thread believes the check was "lost in the mail". Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

Im taking you to court. You WILL issue me a refund. I don't believe you have shit to deliver in regards to product. NOTHING YOU GUYS HAVE SAID HAS EVER TURNED OUT TO BE TRUE. I CHALLENGE YOU TO PROVE ME WRONG. I dont want your crappy hardware that hasnt worked  straight out of the box for anyone yet. You assholes are in so far over your heads its crazy. What made AMT miners think they could properly run a bitcoin miner company?

as far as taking me to court. GO FUCK YOURSELVES. I welcome your challenge. Come on fat boy let's see what you got.


OHHHH... and lastly. no one can buy AMT miners on amazon.com any more because im pretty sure amazon.com, being a reputable entity, quickly discovered what low life pieces of shit you guys are and dropped you like a bad habit.