🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread

[TheNineClub]

^  Intruiging match up.  And either one who wins could get a shot for the title next.  But yeah..  looking at Makhachev‘s last 5 matches, it looks like he hasn’t been against an elite grappler like Dariush in the UFC.  I mean Thiago Moises is supposedly a good grappler but nothing like Dariush. 

Here’s the Tapology page for the match up.

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/bouts/617723-ufc-fight-night-beneil-benny-dariush-vs-islam-makhachev

It’s also 5 rounds.  That Dariush gas tank will be tested and he’s a bit chinny.

Yeah, kinda worried about that when it comes to Dariush, but, it seems he really has been improving from fight to fight, and...well, This is his biggest test. The thing is, if he wins he's gonna be champ, I can feel it, but if he loses he'll drop really low. The same does not apply to Makhachev, he loses and he's still up there with the best of them. So there is seemingly less spotlight on Dariush, but more at risk.

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[Welsh]

I think I'll be going for Dariush in that match up, not sure what he odds will be, but I suspect with the hype behind Makhachev, he might get the nod as the favourite. Honestly, probably a good idea to bet on the underdog, regardless who it is as I expect a close wrestling match, which likely goes the distance. So, someone by decision sounds the most lucrative bet.

Some good fights in February of next year. Hopefully on the 12th of December we have a good end of the year event, and start it off with a bang with the Izzy vs Whittaker fight, and Islam vs Benny in Feb.

[YuginKadoya]

He started wrestling when he was 5 years old, and he is a three-time Swedish National champion in wrestling. So, I agree with you when you say "he has the best grappling". I mean, it's not entirely surprising, right?

This is why between Gilbert Burns if Chimaev would surely have a problem with Wrestling against Burns I think he may result in striking and I am very confident with the power of his striking, but I still think against Chimaev, Burns will surely have a hard time with his Chain Wrestling, and even if they are on the ringside it is still proven effective, that is why I am really confident on Khamzat Chimaev.

I think if nothing extraordinary happens, I'm betting on Khamzat during the following year or two, no matter who he is going to fight. In no way it's a recipe for successful betting. It's just my little experiment.

Well, if Khamzat Chimaev would rise as a champion and beat up Kamaru Usman, I think he can be a very massive wall for Welterweight challengers, don't get me wrong I said if we beat the way up the Welterweight division and beat Kamaru Usman then that is what's going to happen,

I am really looking forward to that day happening, even though many are seeing Khamzat Chimaev is just pure hype, for me, I have seen potential with his technical striking, and wrestling he is an all-rounder and has the strength to push his takedowns, and just like Cyril Gane that everyone is saying is just a pure hype I think he can move his way up until he reach that title match he deserves.

Rob Font VS Jose Aldo

I think this is the only fight worth looking at, Rob Font, sure have good striking, and have good takedown defense but getting a match with Jose Aldo I think he doesn't have what it takes yet, this is just my opinion, you can say that Aldo has many experiences but that fight with Cody Garbrandt looks awesome, but that is the only fight remember about him, but with Jose Aldo, he has fought great opponent like Conor McGregor, Alexander Volkanovski, Petr Yan, Max Holloway, even though he lost to those fighters I think the experience would surely be paid off by just fighting that opponent, and against Rob Font, this will surely surface, when he fought Marlon Vera a technical striker, I think he might do that again against Font when Jose Aldo fought Petr Yan he Savage kicks his front leg that Yan shifted to southpaw, but Yan is so good of a boxer that he still beats Aldo if he can be done that to Font and Rob Font style would crubble because of that then Aldo will sure win this, Stake odds for this fight 1.67 for Rob Font and 2.17 for Jose Aldo but I will go with Jose Aldo.

[TopTort777]

If Makhachev wins Dariush, will his next fight will be a fight for a belt, or he will meet the looser of Olivera vs Poirier ?

But yeah..  looking at Makhachev‘s last 5 matches, it looks like he hasn’t been against an elite grappler like Dariush in the UFC.

Good point. Remember when in Makhachevs last fight was trying to perform kimura, and Khabib gave him an advice to put leg on Hookers head to increase pressure. I know that during the fight you cant remember all the tricks you've been taught, but that was quite obvious to do than and immobilize Hooker more on the ground. You might be right, that against a really elite grappler, he might have huge problems and Makhachevs wrestling is not a solution to everything.

[tokeweed]

^  Intruiging match up.  And either one who wins could get a shot for the title next.  But yeah..  looking at Makhachev‘s last 5 matches, it looks like he hasn’t been against an elite grappler like Dariush in the UFC.  I mean Thiago Moises is supposedly a good grappler but nothing like Dariush.  

Here’s the Tapology page for the match up.

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/bouts/617723-ufc-fight-night-beneil-benny-dariush-vs-islam-makhachev

It’s also 5 rounds.  That Dariush gas tank will be tested and he’s a bit chinny.

Yeah, kinda worried about that when it comes to Dariush, but, it seems he really has been improving from fight to fight, and...well, This is his biggest test. The thing is, if he wins he's gonna be champ, I can feel it, but if he loses he'll drop really low. The same does not apply to Makhachev, he loses and he's still up there with the best of them. So there is seemingly less spotlight on Dariush, but more at risk.

I think Makhachev has the higher ceiling and could prolly beat Poirier, Oliviera, Gaethje and Chandler if given the chance to be matched up with them.  Dariush vs some of those guys is a toss up and some could be an underdog spot.

Anyway..  Who you guys got for the next event?  I’m thinking Aldo and Fiziev.  And prolly Pitolo. He’s due!    Lolol.

UFC Free Fight:  Aldo vs Munhoz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlWSO7E3YZw

UFC Free Fight:  Font vs Garbrandt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnwJlr7x33Q

^  Munhoz is known for his nasty leg kicks.  Watch Aldo avoid them just by making small movements. 

[TopTort777]

Not a single word about Clay Guida on last pages of this topic Previously this guy gained a lot of attention. They guy has fought nearly every decent start of his division. This weekend I think we will expect his another loss.

He really looks like a caveman


I am interested in Riddell vs Fiziev fight. Both fighters are close on top. Both have close odds. Both are on a series of wins. Both has good chances to fight someone from top10 and in 1 or 2 fights join title race.

Chric Curtis looks like Curtis Blaydes. Damn, English names and Surnames are hard. Is it possible to get a combination of Curtis Curtis ? How is possible when one "name" can be both Name and Surname?

[Welsh]

I'm going with an accumulator which combines the next two events. Mainly being the favourites this time around. Early picks of the bunch are:

Sean O'Malley (Though to be honest wouldn't be surprised he loses this one)
Dustin Poirier via finish
Gillian Robertson
Brendan Allen
Buys

You aren't going to get much return from these, but it might be worth putting Gillian Roberston via submission, and Brendan Allen via decision if you want to pump those numbers up a little. I'd say the riskiest one here is Poirer, since I think Oliveria definitely has a chance here, and the odds on Poirier winning are a little inflated to be honest.

[TheNineClub]

If Makhachev wins Dariush, will his next fight will be a fight for a belt, or he will meet the looser of Olivera vs Poirier ?

But yeah..  looking at Makhachev‘s last 5 matches, it looks like he hasn’t been against an elite grappler like Dariush in the UFC.

Good point. Remember when in Makhachevs last fight was trying to perform kimura, and Khabib gave him an advice to put leg on Hookers head to increase pressure. I know that during the fight you cant remember all the tricks you've been taught, but that was quite obvious to do than and immobilize Hooker more on the ground. You might be right, that against a really elite grappler, he might have huge problems and Makhachevs wrestling is not a solution to everything.

Tittle fight for sure. Or an interim fight. There is no way other than injury could let the new or old champ avoid this fight. I'd say the winner of PvsO to Makhachev and the loser to Dariush. Either way, Neither Poirier nor Olivera will have an easy year, that's for sure. On the other hand, the division hasn't looked this exciting in a hor minute.

[Welsh]

Are we favouring Makhachev over Poirier, and Oliveria? I think that's a very close fight between all of them. I think the up, and coming fight between Poirier, and Oliveria is going to be a close one. I think the odds being so heavily in favour of Poirer is rather generous. Even though, I do think Poirier will edge it, I was expecting the odds to be something like 1.90 each.

Though, I would say that Makhachev is the underdog for both of those fights.

Either way, Neither Poirier nor Olivera will have an easy year, that's for sure.

I guess it depends on the amount of damage each fighter takes, but if Oliveria loses I expect a rematch to be made rather than Makhachev getting the title shot. So, I don't think Makhachev will be getting either one of them in 2022.

[Betwrong]

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I am really looking forward to that day happening, even though many are seeing Khamzat Chimaev is just pure hype, for me, I have seen potential with his technical striking, and wrestling he is an all-rounder and has the strength to push his takedowns, and just like Cyril Gane that everyone is saying is just a pure hype I think he can move his way up until he reach that title match he deserves.
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It's true that media loves to write about him, they want to write clickbaity articles, and his name is clickbait already. But, idk, are there examples of someone hyped that much while being unworthy? I don't mean artists, singers and stuff, I mean MMA fighters.

Not a single word about Clay Guida on last pages of this topic Previously this guy gained a lot of attention. They guy has fought nearly every decent start of his division. This weekend I think we will expect his another loss.

He really looks like a caveman

Well, with that look you may not look convincing on a philosophical conference, and hardly anyone will invest in a new crypto token that you promote, but it's a perfect look to scare the sh*t out of your opponent. Regarding his possible loss to Leonardo Santos, idk, I think Clay can beat him. Imo Santos is too old to continue with fighting. Did you see how he lost to Grant Dawson?

[Bttzed03]

I'm skipping Font vs. Aldo and just put my money (that's supposed to be for Font) on the next event. Even though I'm 50-50 on who will take the belt, I couldn't resist the odds at 2.30+ on Charles which is higher than what's currently offered on Rob (1.60+).

[TopTort777]

It is 10 days only until Oliveira vs Poirier fight and the social media are silent, fighters are silent. It is strange not to hear trash talk or someone convincingly announcing that he will knockout cold his opponent. Strange that McGregor is silent, and he likes to attack Poirier in the media Maybe that is because he is cheering for Dusting, and expect a fourth fight (title fight) between them.

Are we favouring Makhachev over Poirier, and Oliveria?

I just want Makhachev to fight someone from the top5. On the other hand, he has 9 wins in a row, it should be enough to test him and give title fight instantly.

[tokeweed]

I watched some tape of some of the fighters.  Besides Aldo and Fiziev, I like Gruetzemacher at 1.88, Jeremiah Wells at 2.45 and believe it or not, I think Maki Pitolo at 2.31 is a good spot.  Lol. 

You guys can do a little tape study of past matches yourselves at MMACore.  It’s a pretty good site with almost all past events.  And it’s free.

https://mmacore.tv/

Enjoy. 

[TheNineClub]

You guys can do a little tape study of past matches yourselves at MMACore.  It’s a pretty good site with almost all past events.  And it’s free.

https://mmacore.tv/

Enjoy. 

For years has been my go-to for some fights to watch. However, I am not keen on their video player. And the site usability is also pretty bad, but hey, it does the job to some extent. Do recommend as well.

It is 10 days only until Oliveira vs Poirier fight and the social media are silent, fighters are silent. It is strange not to hear trash talk or someone convincingly announcing that he will knockout cold his opponent. Strange that McGregor is silent, and he likes to attack Poirier in the media Maybe that is because he is cheering for Dusting, and expect a fourth fight (title fight) between them.

Oliveira is (if my memory serves me correctly) not really all that good at English, so that could be a reason for the lack of verbal alteration between him and his opponents. The days of stalking through translators are long gone. But for the better, not everyone has to do it.

[notblox1]

Interesting main event this week in UFC but I am interested to see what Azamat Murzakanov will do against Jared Vanderaa in prelims light heavyweight category.
Tune in to live stream of upcoming UFC event Font vs. Aldo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NWVhsVPvJ0

[Welsh]

I watched some tape of some of the fighters.  Besides Aldo and Fiziev, I like Gruetzemacher at 1.88, Jeremiah Wells at 2.45 and believe it or not, I think Maki Pitolo at 2.31 is a good spot.  Lol.  

I can see why your going for Jeremiah Wells after watching some of his tapes. I initially fancied Jake Matthews, but hes recently coming off a loss, while Jeremiah Wells has put a 3 win streak in. I might have to change my initial prediction to Wells. Plus, he has decent odds at 2.45 probably my fancy of the night.

Oliveira is (if my memory serves me correctly) not really all that good at English, so that could be a reason for the lack of verbal alteration between him and his opponents. The days of stalking through translators are long gone. But for the better, not everyone has to do it.

Shame really, because I think him learning English would throw his career into a new dimension. At the moment, I think a lot of people will give him credit for his ability, but won't necessarily back him against other English speaking fighters because they can't quite connect with him. I think it would be a decent career move, and would secure him better paying sponsorships if he were to learn a little more English. 

[YuginKadoya]

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I am really looking forward to that day happening, even though many are seeing Khamzat Chimaev is just pure hype, for me, I have seen potential with his technical striking, and wrestling he is an all-rounder and has the strength to push his takedowns, and just like Cyril Gane that everyone is saying is just a pure hype I think he can move his way up until he reach that title match he deserves.
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It's true that media loves to write about him, they want to write clickbaity articles, and his name is clickbait already. But, idk, are there examples of someone hyped that much while being unworthy? I don't mean artists, singers and stuff, I mean MMA fighters.

There are Fighters that their hype got derailed when they certainly just lost one bout, like Johnny Walker was hype back then but Corey Anderson stop his train, Ben Askren was a hype when entering UFC, from One Championship he was undefeated and debuting from UFC his bulldog choke against Robbie Lawler pretty questionable because he was pretty devastated by Lawler until he can get that Bulldog choke, but the hype stop when he was Koéd by a flying knee in just 0:05 Seconds by Jorge Masvidal, I think there are many hype in the UFC and the MMA back then but for me Khamzat Chimaev's hype is really legit, and I can see the guy really has potential and he is not afraid in showing it.

[Welsh]

There are Fighters that their hype got derailed when they certainly just lost one bout, like Johnny Walker was hype back then but Corey Anderson stop his train, Ben Askren was a hype when entering UFC, from One Championship he was undefeated and debuting from UFC his bulldog choke against Robbie Lawler pretty questionable because he was pretty devastated by Lawler until he can get that Bulldog choke, but the hype stop when he was Koéd by a flying knee in just 0:05 Seconds by Jorge Masvidal, I think there are many hype in the UFC and the MMA back then but for me Khamzat Chimaev's hype is really legit, and I can see the guy really has potential and he is not afraid in showing it.

At the end of the day its a fight, and this is especially true in MMA; anything can happen. So, fighters losing the odd fight isn't exactly unexpected, in fact its expected for the majority of fighters. You could count on one hand the amount of fighters that are undefeated, while taking on the top guys. Khabib obviously being the most recent, but he's very much an anomaly in the sport.

Even Conor who at one point looked unstoppable, you could say that's due to the way he fights, and Khabibs style protects him a lot more than a pure striker like Conor, and while that might be partially true, if you take a look at the other wrestlers in the sport they aren't going on massive unbeaten streaks.

Therefore, I don't actually believe in the hype being derailed from a single loss. If Makhachev were to fight either Oliveria or Poirier which I personally do believe its a little too soon right now, if he was to lose that doesn't automatically mean the hype behind him should be gone. Poirer, and Oliveria are literally the two main men in the division right now.

I find as fans we can have a knee jerk reaction whenever a fighter loses a fight. In fact, this probably isn't entirely the fans fault, due to the UFC as an organisation pushing the agenda that every fight will finish a fighter if they lose, and project the winner onto bigger, and better things. Boxing also has this mentality because hype sells tickets.

Though it was proven recently that older fighters that were deemed finished many years ago, can improve, and go on to win belts. Makhachev losing against the current top 2 in the sport isn't going to realistically derail his career. Though, for his benefit its probably best to not jump in the cage with them too soon, because in the eyes of the fans it would take away a lot of the hype, however when he starts winning again that would return right away.

[TopTort777]

It is 10 days only until Oliveira vs Poirier fight and the social media are silent, fighters are silent. It is strange not to hear trash talk or someone convincingly announcing that he will knockout cold his opponent. Strange that McGregor is silent, and he likes to attack Poirier in the media Maybe that is because he is cheering for Dusting, and expect a fourth fight (title fight) between them.

Oliveira is (if my memory serves me correctly) not really all that good at English, so that could be a reason for the lack of verbal alteration between him and his opponents. The days of stalking through translators are long gone. But for the better, not everyone has to do it.

You would be shocked, but Poirier is good at English. Just joking

Oliveira can post on his native language, I am sure there are people that could translate it into English and pass to Poirier. Or sometimes fighters managers manage their social media accounts and add petrol in fire.

Yesterday I was surfing in the Internet and has found an interesting article for you guys:

The 50 Worst Fighters in UFC History: A Tribute

Definitely check it out on free time.

That one really made me laugh yesterday

[Welsh]

You would be shocked, but Poirier is good at English. Just joking

Oliveira can post on his native language, I am sure there are people that could translate it into English and pass to Poirier. Or sometimes fighters managers manage their social media accounts and add petrol in fire.

Takes away from the immediate impact of witty remarks though doesn't it . Nah, I don't try mean insulting back, and forth. To be honest, I'm not a massive fan of that, unless it was Conor in his prime. He was very good at it, lately though he's drifted into just boring insults rather than countering with wit.

I mean just being able to communicate to the vast majority of the fans would be an advantage. I'm actually surprised this isn't part of their training. I would think that Dana would be interested in offering incentive for learning English, because it allows the fighters to build their brand more. I know the UFC or MMA for that matter isn't all about English speakers, I just think its another tool to the tool belt.