Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[CryptoBuds]

Yeah, Pakistan is totally an unpredictable team. With the exception of Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan, there is no continuity in the performance of any batsman. And the team can't rely on anyone but these two batsmen. Other players are seasonal performers. If luck is good they are able to run. Nevertheless, Pakistan's current position is stable. Looks like they'll collect more than 300.

And how about the West Indies team ? Do you think they are any better team than the Pakistan team ?
Seems like both team are of same nature and both needs to improve a lot on their batting ? In last test match, West Indies only won by 1 wicket and this does not stand them ahead of the opponent. There has to be a winner when you play a 5 days match with low scoring on each side.

If you want to know my opinion, I would say neither party is better. No matter how good the players of a team who have no consistency of performance, they cannot be called a good team. They need to improve not only batting but also bowling. The West Indies bowler took 3 wickets for 2 runs. Now Pakistan has collected 212 runs losing 4 wickets. If the West Indies bowlers had been experienced, Pakistan would have lost all their wickets by now.

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[nhaila]

It is not at all advisable for a team to expect to be a good team just by performing one site. As you can see in the case of India team, in this team Both the batsman and the bowling site are equally strong. The West Indies are a balanced team between the West Indies and Pakistan as they can perform fairly well on both the bowling and batting sites. Pakistan Tim Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan are all down batsmen. So did Pakistan lose the first match only because of batting performance.

[JohnBitCo]

The Pakistan team is now in trouble again. They lost the fourth wicket for 168 runs. Babar Azam was out for 75 runs. On the other hand, Fawad Alam is now out of the field with injuries. There are two new batsmen now in the crease. It is difficult to say how long they will stay at the crease.

Pakistan team still in good position. The new two batsman hadn't made any mistake yesterday and build up a good partnership. They were like a set batsman in that condition. Although the day one has ended without full 3 session for the low light issue. And the game is delayed today for the rain. I think that Pakistani batting lineup will collapse again on day two. We might see a winner if nothing interrupts in the game on remaining days.

Due to the wet outfit, there is no possibility of playing today. Even if the game is played tomorrow, I think Pakistan will be able to survive for 2 sessions. More important than how many runs they can collect is how long they can survive at the crease. If they lose all their wickets in the first session, then West Indies will have a chance to win this match. And if Pakistan can play the next two sessions, then the match will be a draw.

So how is the weather today ? Can we expect some game today or wet outfield won't allow it ?

Also it was decided yesterday that the play will begin 30 mins earlier today. Who will have an edge in this match, it will be decided on how the both teams resumes after this interval of a day or more.

[bryant.coleman]

So how is the weather today ? Can we expect some game today or wet outfield won't allow it ?

Also it was decided yesterday that the play will begin 30 mins earlier today. Who will have an edge in this match, it will be decided on how the both teams resumes after this interval of a day or more.

The weather prediction says that there is a good chance of rain, for today and tomorrow. And given the poor run-off system in West Indian grounds, that means that the entire day's play will be called off even if it rains for a couple of hours. The stadiums in Jamaica and Barbados were not constructed with rain interruptions in mind. At this point, it is difficult to say who is having the advantage. Pakistan is mid-way through their first innings. And given how unpredictable they are, I would not make a comment.

[UmerIdrees]

So how is the weather today ? Can we expect some game today or wet outfield won't allow it ?

Also it was decided yesterday that the play will begin 30 mins earlier today. Who will have an edge in this match, it will be decided on how the both teams resumes after this interval of a day or more.

The weather prediction says that there is a good chance of rain, for today and tomorrow. And given the poor run-off system in West Indian grounds, that means that the entire day's play will be called off even if it rains for a couple of hours. The stadiums in Jamaica and Barbados were not constructed with rain interruptions in mind. At this point, it is difficult to say who is having the advantage. Pakistan is mid-way through their first innings. And given how unpredictable they are, I would not make a comment.

The sun is bright today and hopefully there will be some cricket if it stays the same. However the match is still delayed because of the wet outfield. If it does not rain today, we will surely see some action today in the 3rd day.

From ESPN:-

9.25 am: The start will be delayed. There is an inspection at 9.40 am. So apparently, the ground is still not fully ready. Although the sun is out in full force, like it was on Day 1, and it's a sweltering day so far.

[onecall123]

So how is the weather today ? Can we expect some game today or wet outfield won't allow it ?

Also it was decided yesterday that the play will begin 30 mins earlier today. Who will have an edge in this match, it will be decided on how the both teams resumes after this interval of a day or more.

The weather prediction says that there is a good chance of rain, for today and tomorrow. And given the poor run-off system in West Indian grounds, that means that the entire day's play will be called off even if it rains for a couple of hours. The stadiums in Jamaica and Barbados were not constructed with rain interruptions in mind. At this point, it is difficult to say who is having the advantage. Pakistan is mid-way through their first innings. And given how unpredictable they are, I would not make a comment.

The sun is bright today and hopefully there will be some cricket if it stays the same. However the match is still delayed because of the wet outfield. If it does not rain today, we will surely see some action today in the 3rd day.

While it's sunny in Kingston today, the ground is still not ready. As the ground hasn't been fully prepared, there will be a slight delay before we start 3rd day. As we have limited time, Pakistan needs to bat aggressively and score more runs. I hope the ground will be cleared quickly. A reserve day is needed for test matches.

update: We're back in the game.

[bryant.coleman]

The weather prediction says that there is a good chance of rain, for today and tomorrow. And given the poor run-off system in West Indian grounds, that means that the entire day's play will be called off even if it rains for a couple of hours. The stadiums in Jamaica and Barbados were not constructed with rain interruptions in mind. At this point, it is difficult to say who is having the advantage. Pakistan is mid-way through their first innings. And given how unpredictable they are, I would not make a comment.

The sun is bright today and hopefully there will be some cricket if it stays the same. However the match is still delayed because of the wet outfield. If it does not rain today, we will surely see some action today in the 3rd day.

From ESPN:-

9.25 am: The start will be delayed. There is an inspection at 9.40 am. So apparently, the ground is still not fully ready. Although the sun is out in full force, like it was on Day 1, and it's a sweltering day so far.

LOL... this was what I was talking about. Even on a sunny day, the match got delayed. The drainage runoff system in West Indian grounds is very poor and this is not the first time that matches are getting delayed due to wet outfield. I don't think that we'll get a result from this match. It is the third day, and the first innings is yet to be completed. The plus point for West Indies is that they managed to get both the in form batsmen out (Babar Azam and Fawad Alam), before they could get to a century.

[kro55]

The start of the third day's play is being delayed due to rain. Even today, no team seems to be able to take the field. Since the West Indies team is already leading the series 1-0. So if the match is a draw, it is good for them. However, Pakistan's middle order batsmen were batting very well. But their fate is not good.

[Mahdirakib]

While it's sunny in Kingston today, the ground is still not ready. As the ground hasn't been fully prepared, there will be a slight delay before we start 3rd day. As we have limited time, Pakistan needs to bat aggressively and score more runs. I hope the ground will be cleared quickly. A reserve day is needed for test matches.
update: We're back in the game.

Only 1.2 overs were bowled and the game was stopped then. The filed wasn't suitable for playing. The first session of day 3 is wasted. The match is continued now, but we shouldn't expect anything else than a draw from this point. And I agree with you. A reserve day will be helpful in these cases. ICC should implement the reserve day for each test game like they used it in WTC final match. It was effective too.

[bryant.coleman]

Only 1.2 overs were bowled and the game was stopped then. The filed wasn't suitable for playing. The first session of day 3 is wasted. The match is continued now, but we shouldn't expect anything else than a draw from this point. And I agree with you. A reserve day will be helpful in these cases. ICC should implement the reserve day for each test game like they used it in WTC final match. It was effective too.

There is no need for a reserve day. The delay here was not caused as a result of rain. The delay was resulted from the inability of the ground staff to keep the ground properly covered. And this has occurred on a regular basis in the West Indies, although it is almost unheard in any other country. The ICC should take note of this and issue a warning to the WICB. I feel bad for the Pakistani batsmen, as they were in a good position. If play gets delayed further, then in all probability this test will end in a draw.

[7788bitcoin]

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I feel bad for the Pakistani batsmen, as they were in a good position. If play gets delayed further, then in all probability this test will end in a draw.

This is the third day and West Indies is yet to bat and who knows how they are going to perform, Pakistan have Fawad Alam in the crease and he is one short of his century and a well deserved century but he is batting with the tail and how long he can bat with the tail exposed, i am expecting Pakistan to make around 300 runs and West Indies batsman determines how the match ends  .

[teosanru]

Only 1.2 overs were bowled and the game was stopped then. The filed wasn't suitable for playing. The first session of day 3 is wasted. The match is continued now, but we shouldn't expect anything else than a draw from this point. And I agree with you. A reserve day will be helpful in these cases. ICC should implement the reserve day for each test game like they used it in WTC final match. It was effective too.

There is no need for a reserve day. The delay here was not caused as a result of rain. The delay was resulted from the inability of the ground staff to keep the ground properly covered. And this has occurred on a regular basis in the West Indies, although it is almost unheard in any other country. The ICC should take note of this and issue a warning to the WICB. I feel bad for the Pakistani batsmen, as they were in a good position. If play gets delayed further, then in all probability this test will end in a draw.

The condition WICB is in, I really don't expect that they will care about these petty issues, even ICC knows the condition of WICB, so they won't issue any warnings to them and the way how new countries aren't interested in cricket I am sure ICC don't want to remove another test playing nation from the list. A warning obviously must be there for formality but I don't think it'll change a lot of things.

By the way, after the session is wasted I think Pakistan lost their momentum completely and the result of that is in front of us after the collapse of top order even the lower order collapsed quickly, Fawad Alam is batting like a one-man army. But let's see how far can he take the team.

[eaLiTy]

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Only during the WTC the ICC wanted a reserve day but during regular series i doubt that the team will allow a reserve day because the tour date will last longer.

Yes now a days there is not much rest for the players as the schedules are tightly packed and none of the cricket board will approve for a reserve day as they are after money and they do not care if there are results or not, all they want is more series to be played which means more money to be earned.

Fawad Alam is the batsman that is playing well for Pakistan in recent times along with Babar Azam and glad that he is getting the opportunity and showcase his talent at 35 years of age. I thought he would be a regular in the team when he first joined the team and scored a century in debut but that did not happen and late in his career he got the opportunity and now making use of his lost years.

[ene1980]

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Fawad Alam is the batsman that is playing well for Pakistan in recent times along with Babar Azam and glad that he is getting the opportunity and showcase his talent at 35 years of age. I thought he would be a regular in the team when he first joined the team and scored a century in debut but that did not happen and late in his career he got the opportunity and now making use of his lost years.

If Fawad Alam was that talented and scored a century in debut why was he dropped, was it because of inconsistency in his performance. It is not like Pakistan team is having a huge bench strength of talented batsman waiting for a chance to play and why was he kept out. I searched online but could not find why he was dropped for 10 years.

[Sithara007]

The condition WICB is in, I really don't expect that they will care about these petty issues, even ICC knows the condition of WICB, so they won't issue any warnings to them and the way how new countries aren't interested in cricket I am sure ICC don't want to remove another test playing nation from the list. A warning obviously must be there for formality but I don't think it'll change a lot of things.

By the way, after the session is wasted I think Pakistan lost their momentum completely and the result of that is in front of us after the collapse of top order even the lower order collapsed quickly, Fawad Alam is batting like a one-man army. But let's see how far can he take the team.

So in the end the delay proved beneficial for the West Indies. Pakistan should be happy that they managed to put up a total in excess of 300. And the bowlers also gave them something to cheer for, as West Indies is now reduced to 39/3. Just two days remain in this test match and the only possibility of a result would arise in case West Indies is forced to follow on. And for that Pakistan needs to bowl them out for less than 102 runs. That is not very realistic and in all probability West Indies will win the series.

[UmerIdrees]

The condition WICB is in, I really don't expect that they will care about these petty issues, even ICC knows the condition of WICB, so they won't issue any warnings to them and the way how new countries aren't interested in cricket I am sure ICC don't want to remove another test playing nation from the list. A warning obviously must be there for formality but I don't think it'll change a lot of things.

By the way, after the session is wasted I think Pakistan lost their momentum completely and the result of that is in front of us after the collapse of top order even the lower order collapsed quickly, Fawad Alam is batting like a one-man army. But let's see how far can he take the team.

So in the end the delay proved beneficial for the West Indies. Pakistan should be happy that they managed to put up a total in excess of 300. And the bowlers also gave them something to cheer for, as West Indies is now reduced to 39/3. Just two days remain in this test match and the only possibility of a result would arise in case West Indies is forced to follow on. And for that Pakistan needs to bowl them out for less than 102 runs. That is not very realistic and in all probability West Indies will win the series.

Too early to think of this match draw and Pakistan loses the series. I think Pakistan have taken quick 3 wickets and are in a very good condition to make a match out of it. But we do not need a single delay because of the rain. If there is another spell of rain, then i am afraid the match will result in a draw. West Indies will be happy if the rain spoils the match and they will win the series ON THE PAPER.

[bryant.coleman]

Too early to think of this match draw and Pakistan loses the series. I think Pakistan have taken quick 3 wickets and are in a very good condition to make a match out of it. But we do not need a single delay because of the rain. If there is another spell of rain, then i am afraid the match will result in a draw. West Indies will be happy if the rain spoils the match and they will win the series ON THE PAPER.

Only two days remain and rain interruption is predicted for the next two days as well. On top of that, the ground is very poorly constructed and it doesn't allow play even when there is no rain, as the water is retained for some more time. For a win, Pakistan need to force West Indies to follow on. But that is not realistic, as West Indies just need 103 runs to avoid that. Pakistan needs a miracle to win this match and thereby level the series. And actually there is a small chance of that happening, since they are very unpredictable.

[ene1980]

Only two days remain and rain interruption is predicted for the next two days as well. On top of that, the ground is very poorly constructed and it doesn't allow play even when there is no rain, as the water is retained for some more time.

West Indies board is not spending money to purchase water absorbents and people are doing it manually and that takes a day to dry the ground. If they had spent money on that they could have played in the second day and if there is further rain in this match both the teams should go to the hotel and start preparing for the next match.
 
I am also not expecting a result but lets see if there is any further surprises in stores  .

[UmerIdrees]

Too early to think of this match draw and Pakistan loses the series. I think Pakistan have taken quick 3 wickets and are in a very good condition to make a match out of it. But we do not need a single delay because of the rain. If there is another spell of rain, then i am afraid the match will result in a draw. West Indies will be happy if the rain spoils the match and they will win the series ON THE PAPER.

Only two days remain and rain interruption is predicted for the next two days as well. On top of that, the ground is very poorly constructed and it doesn't allow play even when there is no rain, as the water is retained for some more time. For a win, Pakistan need to force West Indies to follow on. But that is not realistic, as West Indies just need 103 runs to avoid that. Pakistan needs a miracle to win this match and thereby level the series. And actually there is a small chance of that happening, since they are very unpredictable.

Luckily the match has started on time today and weather looks good too.  Pakistan needs to get early wickets now and hope to get them out till tea. Forcing a follow-on will be ideal for them but at the moment it seems impossible. Being a Pakistani myself, i have hope some miracle happen but generally speaking we are heading for a draw.

[GbitG]

Only two days remain and rain interruption is predicted for the next two days as well. On top of that, the ground is very poorly constructed and it doesn't allow play even when there is no rain, as the water is retained for some more time.

West Indies board is not spending money to purchase water absorbents and people are doing it manually and that takes a day to dry the ground. If they had spent money on that they could have played in the second day and if there is further rain in this match both the teams should go to the hotel and start preparing for the next match.
 
I am also not expecting a result but lets see if there is any further surprises in stores  .

This is really matter of shame for West Indies Cricket Board they are gaining some good profit but not spending amount for better technology and better things, in near future they have to think about this because now it's time for better results and fast actions. Right now situation is favouring draw but If Pakistani bowlers able to have some quick wickets in first session then we can expect some result from this match which already lost 4 sessions just because of weather and poor facilities from West Indies Cricket Board.

Edit: Alzarri Joseph gone now West Indies is 45/4 just third over off the day.